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a mobile app available in your favorites apps to just set for it and typed on a new app from out to 0 new at your fingertips the, from the women's suffrage of the 1920s to the me, to leave friends. feminism in the west has driven them on the great foot, gender equality beyond the west. and then how has the movement of all across all the cultures and consummate? i'm very impulse, why i'm this is the stream. do i consider myself a feminist? feminism to me means that women are treated equally, not the same, but equally feminism to me is when women of color are no longer to humanize. when women of color are seen as a part of the conversation, communism is not
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a one size fits all solution. when i say women's rights, i mean women, whether it be black women trends, women, 12 women, disabled women, feminism is about recognizing and highlighting the intersecting struggles faced by women. for me, being a feminist is supporting every woman on the face of this earth to be everything she can possibly be terminated to be named, scratched you for everyone. fully full price to have today just, it's about recognizing the strengths and diversity of all people. means having the right to what i want in life. i don't think that you could truly via seminars without standing up for women that are of preston and he plays or country. feminism is continuing to utilize our platform and voices talk about palestinians, congolese and suit the needs people. to me, feminism is best summed up 5 based quotes by audrey lloyd. i am not free. well,
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any woman is on free, even when her shackles are very different from my own remarks. and now the women's history month, which senses women's contributions in the us, the u. k. and australia. what this feminism looked like when we re sense a long sideline voices from the global south in this episode will next to what we can learn from both older and new generations of feminist pioneer is hate to discuss this with me, all 3 generations of feminist activists and educators, lena, i did offer a feminist olsa who focuses on gender issues and development. i'm humanitarian contacts, jamie swift, founder of black women radicals and advocacy organization dedicated to uplifting, i'm censoring black women. and yes, mean. 7 been see men found of politics, the ha, a non profit organization, the advocates for rates, a political participation of young women and girls. ladies,
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thank you so much for being a i really appreciate your presence. i want to kick off today and talk about these generational differences and also each of you to identify something you really admire about a previous or subsequent generation of feminist. asked me and maybe we can kick off with you. yes, absolutely. thank you so much for having me. so for me, i would say that i really look up to a woman that came before me. and particularly if at the moment and you see from morocco estimate in the middle of it really showed that women in islam were already very active. that there were a matriarchal societies. but unfortunately, they have been raised from history, but also showed case that it's not the religion itself, the issue, but the invitation of it's by mail leads to serve their interest. so those are my they the inspirations. wow, thank you so much. i mean, i mean over to you,
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what i love it is that i've learned from this generation that all of our issues are interconnected. and we're all fighting on the same from side to fight for one of these is a fight for all of these. so the idea that we are countering all of these abusive and toxic isms, and they all are related, they all are tangled up. so this generation i think, is really at the forefront of seeing those issues as part of the way be level multi layered lives and the need to fight for all of them altogether. amazing. and jamie, yes, i'm super inspired by barbara smith who was one of the founding members of the company he river collective. and she's also one of the reasons why we have black women studies in the united states. she was also co founder with audrey lloyd of kitchen table women of color, press the 1st ever press for women of color in north america. so she's a great inspiration to me. wow. so clearly we owe a lot to all feminist form others, right?
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everyone chose to list, i mean, of course, lena, home is to the younger ones as well, but you know, we are a lot to the ones who come before us, right? so, you know, i want to ask you as a gen x feminist, who, when you see the struggles that are being waged today by j. n. z, does it make you hopeful that the movement is making progress or does it feel like one step forward and 2 steps back? and i think we've got unprecedented challenges. so it's really easy to be discouraged. but what i do see is help. i see a lot of momentum, i see a generation that is unrelenting. they are out there for fighting for their rights for everybody's rights for human rights overall. and we're finally defining document, expansive and inclusive way. so yes, i mean, you can look at this as catastrophic step back in the world, global crises that show no sign of ending set backs against our rates push backs against our funding of mental freedoms robots of the rights. we thought we had,
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at least in my decades doing this work. i never imagined that we'd be finding the same battles. but this generation is out there on the streets in their homes, on the front lines and politics in every place, making their voices heard. and they are doing that in a way that gives me a lot of hope that yes, we are taking the gains from the past generations and we are pushing forward and we're not going to stop until we went it. i sincerely hope it's in my lifetime. no pressure on the younger generations, but i would love to see it happen, of course. and i mean, i was eluding of course, to the fact that jamie, your, in the us where we've seen a roll back on reproductive rights. and of course, ongoing violence against particularly women of color. do you want to do you, do you feel that same sense of hope with regards to, to whether movement is headed? i still hope, but sadly, a sense of despair. like lena said,
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we have seen critical rollbacks not just sending us, but globally for the rights of black people, people of color, women, gender, expansive folks. and so it's daunting at times. right. to think about, wow, these things are happening in our world and it's 2024. however, i do agree that the young people are making a way forward and taking the lessons from our elders, particularly in my case as a black them. and as are black, feminist elders, right. whether it be harriet tubman money the found gold, marshall p jobs and, and learning from what they laid on the ground for us and expanding on it. and i think that's the beauty of last time and as imagination some possibilities. yes. i mean that you previously said we feminists have similar fights, but we don't have the same baffles. can you elaborate for us on that one? yeah, absolutely. yeah. i think that being an interception of feminist, as being mindful of our privileges and um, realizing them and making sure that we took an interest sectional approach and
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everything we undertake. hence the importance of amplifying voices and not speaking on behalf of other groups. making sure that we include everyone within our fights, whether it is and vision is whether it is disabled. whether it is a young woman and grace from global majority at the migrant strategies and everything. we need to make sure that we are all part of this movement collectively, but we do have individual struggles. and for gods we need to acknowledge our privilege. i see. i see the ladies nodding that. um, do you feel that that sort of sense to sort of doroty that we're talking about that yes. mean which will definitely hurtful has been reflected. um we're going through oversee a series of genocide throughout the well congress to done oversee gaza. you know, women oversee, comes in any conflicts are in always likely to experience things like sexual violence. do you feel like we've seen solidarity on the scale that you would have
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helpful? um, jamie, do you wanna kick us off on that one? i can see i can see is minos definitely not agreeing? yes. well, it depends on the context. i think that when i think of myself as a black feminist and why there was a black feminist movement created, was because the anti blackness re um that black mini black women and clear and trans engender expensive people face and the predominately white main stream feminist movement so we were excluded from that movement, but in terms of solidarity and the current fees in terms of palestine, congo, sudan to gray, particularly with palestine. blackstone minnes have always been on the forefront of solidarity with palestine and also trans national global struggles. you can't cite june, jordan angela davis argue, lord shirley graham dubois and to exactly shine gay without recognizing that they were in solidarity with palestine and radical global struggles around the world. so i see both well on the subjects of level solidarity or the lack thereof. let's take
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a peek out basic talk. of course big biggest crisis going on on the road right now is quite a girl waiting. margaret radi not getting oscar nominations for feminist masterpiece. don't you just love pink? we're waiting for this course. he went back to branch and stopped masking. the moment the governmental, this dakota is over. i was just of course, i don't need to have an opinion on palestine because it's such a complex nuance issue. and i don't really know that much about it. and i heard of how it went in. i mean, it hasn't been proven, but like, you know, how does man, are you know, the ones in the middle east? yeah. so i could send, perhaps, send some rage, maybe bring from the final ahead of me to do you want to kick us off, but i know you've previously spoken about the need for unified movement. when you see videos like that, what, what are we thinking? i mean, she's got like, you know, and we're seeing those kinds of device. i think
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a part of the challenge is figuring out how to overcome that. what i am seeing. no, that's encouraging, you know, and i do error on the side of hope. otherwise, i could not be doing this for decade upon decade, but i do see black and brown feminist very much and solidarity. i see our issues as interconnected, i see as fighting together. as for me, that's where the real power is. that's where the leadership is. so is there a crisis of so called white feminists and what they think is important and how they sideline other issues among many white sand? and if i'd argue yes there is. but that is changing and i feel like that's the minority. i mean, those voices are being drowned out because our forces are stronger and louder. i mean, never did. i imagine that i see people on the streets marching for, for each other's rights and ways that we do today. we genuinely care about each
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other. we see our issues is interconnected, we see our freedoms as tied up together. and that for me is giving me help and eventually we are, we are going to be the louder and stronger voices. so i keep back sold the life that we're not going to win everybody, and there will always be, it's so called feminist somebody. i'm not sure even call them feminist. who will disagree with us, but they're not in the majority anymore. i'm yes, mean you made a video for international women's day way. you also shed some thoughts around the way that the white feminist movement has responded to. some of the current crises runs house a little bit about that. yes, to me it's a very selective and performance of feminist activism, just like you know, said i don't think that should be called feminist. there's nothing seminars about a big selective about women's rights. it's the this double standard of what matters the most. and there's also this misconception that white feminism means just white
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women or women into west, not at all. every time i speak against white feminism, i trigger white women or women in the west because they think it's about them and this showcase another issue. why are you making it about you when there's literally a genocide in palestine aside in genocide and congo and cause issues, whether into then, whether for garden crisis human cd. yeah. the list goes on afghanistan and iran, but yes, they're not going to talk about these issues. but if they do, it's only with a white savior. less to save women and girls from oppressors that are their brown man or black men, per se. so i definitely have a big issue with that and i think that's it shouldn't be called out and rights for the soul. but of course, there's a lot of so the direction between black and brown, and i'll give it to try to bless communities and it's beautiful to see, even if the case of thomas stein up south africa that came and that's defended.
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eyeball is fine. and that brought the kids to the i c j. so it shows that we do not need saving from the west. mm. i see that occurred very much by the rest of the panel here. did anyone else want to come back on that? yes i'm, i could completely agree with my fellow feminist over here. i am not interested in girl boss. semen is a more imperial feminism. and i think it's so important that our radical feminism has a class analysis. right. and we're not, and we're in time interested in invested in working class and poor. right. pretty black feminist perspectives. and when you have the constantly profiting of us based global, ne, english speaking, black them and isms or feminism generally, it takes away from the leadership legacy and lineage is the other feminist around the world. we're doing critical work. so i completely agree a 100 percent. so question to the panel, maybe we can kiddo kick off or do you lean or on this one? so if we de sense, uh why feminism is such
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a thing is possible. what are the priorities you believe that should be set for the movements? well, 1st of all, you ask is such a thing as possible? and i say absolutely, yes, it's possible we're seeing it right now. i've even, the whole thing is that we no longer have to choose between our different identities. we understand that all of that is interconnected and we're fighting along the same front for our freedoms, for our safety. you know, i don't want to be the one to prioritize because i feel like there are different issues at play. but there are differences. there aren't decisions, so i think that's for me in a really important distinction. what we're seeing is that we can come together on the bigger issues, finding against the global abuses of power that we are seeing, fighting against all the isms that are holding us back. fighting against oppression and racism, and colonial somebody occupational and we see that as interconnected now. and for me as somebody who is your regular older feminist on this panel,
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what is refreshing for me in the structure believe is the freedom that i find that we have to be able to be arab and the feminist, lebanese, and palestinian and a family. this, the arab american and a feminist, whatever divisions you want to, to place on me. i can be all of those things that i can do. all of those things that i can speak on behalf of everyone because we're all in the same struggle together. so for me that's what i see and that's the direction that things are headed in. and as i said before, we are louder, stronger, and whether other people like it or not, we are the majority. oh, nice. so i want to pick up on that just very quickly. i want to take a minute to check out this clip from a filipino e coast. i'm in a school mitsy, janelle tom, that you cannot separate clements us from gender justice, because women and gender minorities are mazda, most vulnerable to the kind of cases. and when you have them in leadership positions, assignments, as well as a lot more attainable,
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the world is much. but going beyond that, it's understanding that patriarchy colonialism, imperialism capitalism. they all come from the same seat of freedom, of accumulating power and capital over a false lead propagated notes, created by the rich white man to turn women people of color, global sales people working class into something that can be less than either less than that can be of use exploited and disposed of any immediate reactions to that video sent from mitzy. yes. mean i see you nodding . yeah, absolutely. i think that's the climate crisis is not a threats, but our present reality, and that it's interconnected with all the systems of oppression. whether it is the patriarchy capital is in your colonialism. and it is something that we're seeing more and more. and i'm really glad to see that the feminist movement is also including the climb, as just as
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a kind of justice within its fight. and especially that it's uh, affects young women anders out of disproportionate read indigenous communities. so i definitely agree, and i think that the claimant, justice should be up the forefront of all of our agendas, lena and jamie, i want to give you a chance to come back home. it seems video the a nina, you know, if i owe the assignment, i love the idea that she talks about the other range of all of these issues. so, you know, and i think that's been part of the problem for so long is that we've spoken about it. and this is probably a, a symptom of so called white phone. that is, um, is that we, we talk about other women over there as is bad is the problem and there's medical over there is, were all the trouble is cause and everything is just fine over here. and i think we are shattering that to those 10 because it is not, there is no over there. it is all up. it's right here and right now, and those who don't see that,
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don't see those issues is connected. i think up are not going to back, are not going to help are for right. so for me, the most important thing is that we stop bothering the child hundreds that we face and start to see them is our own. take them personally and then stand up together and fight for them. so this is a section out to you, right, that we hear a lot and the contemporary feminist move. and jamie, i want to ask you about that, because does that mean that we have to be invested in all fights all the time? because that sounds really exhausting, and we have a little already on the plates. well, i'm a black woman and i have all sorts of fights and identities, so i guess i should be exhausted. right, right. i think it's important that we have honoring kimberly crenshaw critical race . very illegal scholar who coined the term intersectionality to talk about are intersecting identities. and impressions, right. and also thinking about identity politics as clean is by the company he river collective right in terms of how are we using are intersecting identities and also the oppressions that we face to radically change and transform our world. and
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so for me, i'm not, i don't live on a single axis plane, none of us to do, right? i don't have one identity. i have multiple identities, right? and so it's very imperative with me. we're talking about the feminist movement that other feminist feminists of color really um, and also white feminist, whoever we honor our different identities, right? and our intersectionality is also for me as a black feminist. i'm not really concerned about mainstream, why feminism? because that's not my north star, right. i've been surrounded by beautiful black women and gender expensive. people always done the work. we've always talked about intersectionality always honored our most by identities. and so when i think about the mainstream right them and as movement to are they to me or the to black feminist date. um, what i want to pick up on this topic of political mobilization and political action, which is so central right to the feminist movement. we often hear this idea of that, you know, one of the criticisms of gen z is that then not quite as political as previous
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generations. do we feel that you'll feminism can be valid if there isn't a political dimension to it means you want to get yourself on that. one is absolutely political. i mean, i see everybody's issues as inherently political, and that's just the way that we're approaching our activism. i think this is not political and what is it? it's about understanding power and our relationship to who has it, who doesn't have it, who uses and who abuses it. i think that is very political, every single aspect of our lives of so yeah, i don't see anything that is a political but any of the work that we're doing, what i do see is an understanding that is involving if such an extraordinary case, small black and brown 7 is together about how connected are issues are and how inherently political and how much we have to fight against of the classes monday
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and the other oppressions that have held us back as women as people of color as immigrants, as minorities, as all of the things that are all the labels that have been placed on us. well, um we, we've already got a few minutes left, but i really wanted to end the show talking about the place of joy within the feminist movements. we often hear this carol could show or feminist being angry. well, is the place for joy within the feminist movement? yes, media. do you want to kick us all? well, i, 1st of all, i think that's we all have all the right should be angry. and if we're angry, so be it's the state, the current state of the world is absolutely not helpful. our petitions and our eaters have failed us. and that's one of the main reasons why young people have kind of lost hope. and people in power, the not even meters, birds, of course, but there's joining that, there's hope. and to me, i see it and young women and girls that surround me because they're so dedicated to a passion that's and there's a real impact. and that's the reason why the us is trying to bend, checked out,
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because there's this here generation z outspoken and everything is political. you can not stay out of politics and everything is a feminist issue to. and of course we're also exhausted. but we need to find hope and community and sisterhood. self care. breast is a form of resistance rest as political. so again, tying back to this idea of capitalism and living in a fast paced lifestyle. this is something that we're trying to dissociate ourselves from. and really become to ourselves and to one another. thank you nina, over to and i want to give jamie the last words, nina and i lost the idea of anger. i think anger is a tablet for our action and you're not angry, you're asleep. when we look at the state of the world, does that mean? all right, he said so bad, anger is going to generate the action that is going to bring us the change that we need and we deserve. and that is long overdue. so with that, your think anger is what drives us forward and we are and we have every right to be angry, but there's help for me if there wasn't any help,
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i wouldn't be able to get up in the morning and do this again. and again, the day after decade. so the hope that i see is a moment. it's like the connections, the, the moments of synergy and solidarity and sisterhood just me and put it so beautifully. that idea that yes we are. * all caring about each other and committed to making things better for ourselves and for one another for the world that we'd like to see for the generation that comes in after jamie uh over to you on the place of joy within the feminist movement. i've definitely seen black furnace biting about the need for joy. tell us your thoughts. i think joy is always been a center piece and blacks i'm and as movements and whether that's learning from younger famine is sitting at the feet of our elders, right? archiving our lives, the last thing, right, overcoming these stereotypes of being an angry black woman and rather than relishing and are just lives in our survival. and even for those who passed on,
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we have so many lessons to learn and i'm grateful to be a part of this beautiful legacy of those have come before me, jamie nina and yes, mena, thank you for sharing your with them with us today. and of course, thank you all for watching. once again, stay in touch online on social media. send us your questions and suggestions using the hash tag or the handle a stream take care. and i'll see you soon. i the latest news as it breaks demonstrators law ser remaining is really captive brought back from gaza and they want the broad back now with the 2 coverage posting and save that whatever we did here in his final words, free power, stone made them feel sense and for that, he was saying before going from the home to the story, at least 9000 posted in families are missing at least one loved one. at the table,
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