is non violent campaign to bring down a corrupt regime on this thing out with gun a democratic revolution. i am not alone on many as velvet resolution on a state of emergency in zimbabwe. extreme drought putting millions of people in danger as wars rage and gaza and ukraine. the battle against climate change continues, but arguably makes fewer headlines. is the world paying enough attention to the threats the entire planet facing? this is inside the hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much enjoyment it's in. bob ways been hit by a severe drought destroying crops on which millions of people rely for food. it's another

example of the impact of climate extremes. worldwide, a threat facing the whole planet. se scientists who warn that action is needed immediately to avert long term disaster. for those who become victims of the impact of climate change, it may already be too late. man made catastrophes such as the wars and gaza and ukraine are in sharp focus, internationally reflecting the horrors of conflict. but while attention is quite properly given to these political disasters, is it not being given to the global threat from climate change? does the world's attention need to be re focused? we'll be discussing this and more with our guest shortly. but 1st, this report from michael swim sharif. dr. fields and based across a severe drought in south africa has left 20000000 people going hungry off to milwaukee and zambia symbolically has declared a state of dissolves to, to leaving the region. that was ones that had to be cultures have a house and green, exposed to needing emergency aid to feed its own people was includes the lack of

food situation is difficult. we only eat once a day because we have nothing in the fields, not a single grain. everything has dried up in the drought. we also have problems with sourcing move to el nino, the naturally occurring climate, patton, the booms, pulse of the best, civic ocean. it's the 2 years has a major impact on weather. in south africa, it typically causes below average rain falls. this year it brought the worst route in dec. it's in the united nation, says major food growing areas in middle of the was on beek media, zambia and some bobby, i've seen some of the lowest rain full in for 2 years. the crowd production is very, very much effective by the current on the new situation of to the, the 1st grains in january. but since, and there has been no ring. and so we're really dreading to see the results of the 2nd girlfriend lice doke assessment because it will likely tell us about the very,

very poor production during this year. fine to see climate change is raising sea levels melting sheets house tensed homes and sleep one fires for the 1st time in january the will reach the benchmark warning level for blo be increase of $1.00 degrees. sceptically. exploits predict for the super challenging of global warming from effects such as a new delivering record. breaking temperature last year was all ready to hope to stone reco, terribly droughts, floods, and other extreme weather is expected as globally temperatures continue to rise. venezuela is already battling a record number one fires. it's um its own region recalled in nearly 6000 fires in march alone. but the impact of rise in global temperatures goes beyond human life. it's wreaking havoc on vaccines and northern albania, and the van lagoon is seen

a steep decline in the number of my great tree butts. go ahead and grab the button on the rising water temperature. rising sea levels and other phenomena have little decline in fish talks of including deals in all the goods in old pena, the peasant, the rest of europe, conflicts and climate crisis affecting the lives of millions around the world. but the urgent need to talk is kind of change seems to be overshadowed by boys in gauze and ukraine, as well as other geo political undressed on the consumption leave. launch is evil for inside story the. all right, let's go ahead and bring in our panel in dublin, in ireland, john sweeney is professor emeritus of the newest university and a specialist and climate change and kimmie. this capital nairobi maurice on jago is regional head of disaster risk management plan international. that's an independent

development and humanitarian organization. and then born in germany, carlo born tempo is director of the coordinators, copernicus, climate change service. thanks for joining us all today. we appreciate your being with us on inside story. maurice. let me start with you today. as in bob boy has declared a national disaster over this drought and president emerson and god wishes the country needs 2000000000 dollars in a to help millions of people who are going hungry. he's appealed to you in agencies, he's appealed to local businesses. well, the country actually be able to get this aide and just how bad is the situation. thank you very much and i will be leaving the country. so i'm curious the question because essentially you pay for no human being should be dying. wow. that the no child should be dropping out of school or because of drought. i know that. busy should be ready to off because the guy there for me to cannot feed them. this is a painful now when she gives us

a humidity and we need to go out and do something now so that at least the children that are suffering, so they're not think of kind of get different they, they mean they've got us, that'd be in school and not mind at all so that they can feed their family. and the situation is, but i did see really, really di amc installed and i looked into the idea of the something assessing position. i'm very particular building is really, really bad. according to the freak of development committed there, there is, you know, so absolutely able to see band it, but it went to agree. and in for the summer they lost the job too much brain. 20000000 people are currently in need or you might need any assistance. so i'm just going across the whole region we're seeing in any areas. we're planning the measurement of hey, use walking in my last week in zimbabwe. and in most of the big things i'm yeah, we're seeing very high levels of i've sent to them already because formula is kind

of, he did shoot him shooting and i dropped him out of school so that they can also get walk. so that'd be kind of some part of the family, which is not really something that should be happening in this, in china. so the international community needs to know what these got. does that seem itself enough? because john, you just heard maurice say that the international community needs to act to combat all of us. of course, we know that wars are raging in gaza and ukraine. this means that even though the battle against climate change continues, climate change is making far fewer headlines that it has in the past. is the world paying enough attention to this threat that the entire planet is facing? no, it's not. and of course everything that maurice said is very valid and, but i think the problem is that some people to switch off would sit at the latest headlines. and, you know, we here on our television screens in our radio, we hear about these extreme events. but we, we,

it doesn't propel is at least in the developed world, into joining the dots and saying that a country lives in bob, a suffering those extremes. it's not their fault and it's not them that have caused the drug concerns. it's really the developed world. and it's getting that accountability across to the general public that i think is the biggest problem that we face in terms of communicating climate change. at the moment. we have a difficulty because people tend to react to short term concerns rather than medium term concerns and long term concerns. so the pressing events that we see in our screens every night, for example, top shoes, their attention, but the prospect of something of a slow one said she bent like a drought. and that doesn't really capture people's attention. and also of course we're dealing with climate. we're dealing with something where there is an element

of uncertainty. and traditionally, i suppose that the climate scientists have been reluctant to legal events like the problems in zimbabwe, as caused by climate change. for most of my career, i had to hedge around the question relating to individual events like that, but i'm very pleased, but no science has advanced to the point with the attribution studies that we cannot do that we time labels such events. and i think that will bring, i didn't need to use say to those kinds of extreme events, especially to decision makers. and that's something i'm very hopeful will feel like lose the dial, a bit, enjoying the adults between who's causing the problem and what can we do about it. so it's in the developed world. and how do we protect some of the people who are most vulnerable that that morris is talking about, their carlo. i saw you reacting to some of what john was saying that looked like you wanted to jump in. so i'll give you the opportunity. no,

just think the guy i completed what the, what does the set, i guess generally we have to go to thomas one time just to distinguish between what these forces bottom of the 5 system to our nation. and this is certainly a state in the saw as opposed to me of a 6 assessment report to see easily assessing thing a role in some of these events as we have this kind of day is that the precipitation response to the not. but if he is likely to become stronger in, in the, in the, on the same account for in the pizza. and we do know that the, you know, is the one face of the selection that as the whole thing as well. does that mean? yes, that's ok. that the if you use to, to inside of that and these, you know, we'd have nino, there is a higher times uh below average because of the station in a good spot that's not enough ago. so in a sense, this is not a pose per se,

by saying that not to be as existent for, for decade, for centuries, for millennial, most of these, uh, the company, our sales more strongly now because we really need to be different. we're going to be leaving in the world that they need to resend those files twice to the the, the, the world, our generation need. so we are now $1.00 benefit agreed to clean the temperature for the little guy. and he describes the discipline as a consequence of that is the stronger and also from the violation is not a bad car. let me ask you, since you brought up el nino, i want to ask you how is the current el nino climate pattern different than ones we've seen in the past? well this is a medium size is last year and the spring that it was declared in, you know,

by the transportation was typically the stages of lead, you know, is the temperature of the tropical acetic auction and several officials by the know, the something in the, or the a degree of the be in the, uh, the normal temperature of the city. so, you know, uh well do that uh, any of the above that to you before you get a sense and then you know, starting buying the lakes figure in the summer and then they probably gonna be seeing the peak around christmas for no. uh. yeah. and now we are in the k, the he said he said that he's like to get back to you for conditions by like spring and he's not sweet simple. i mean, yeah, by, by some, what strains of these amino was defined the law. so what the find a sign this cool connections,

and i'll be in class when not as strong or as clear as the pixel connection to the connection means what any different by the end of the see a, some of the most of the i told the bible such as temperature ever since they cannot be held responsible. nino prison in space is a drawing network signal or strain the uh denise. uh uh so it goes to where i'm in. my signal will be here over southern not freaking out. right. so of course carlo he's sorry, i'm sorry to interrupt you, but it looks to me like john, like you wanted to to add something to it. carla was saying, well, he's going to have to. yeah. wants to add to what color was saying there. and the cell nino has been unusual, but it's been unusually one respect in particular, and that is the warmth of the oceans and all over the low, the inside said by the end of last year, 90 percent of the world's oceans has experienced the marine heat wave and that's

quite unusual in the middle east and of and then you mean your event. so it's telling us that there's been a bit of a dislocation of climate going on. as carla was saying, they expect to tell the connections went as strong as one might expect. and even, you know, despite the changes we saw, there were other things that weren't even basing via lean your if you like on steroids in some respects. and that is a less than 2 is i think that we may be disrupting global clients on the scale, which we haven't really appreciated fully yet. that we saw, for example, huge losses and the and toxic tennessee ice. we've seen boss of lacy or losses on land as well. so i'm saying we're seeing things hot and maybe we haven't been quite prepared for. and of course when we see those on our screens are not on our radio. and there's an element of climate fatigue sets in with the general public as well.

so we have to be, we are, but we have to convey the message, perhaps in a more original way that perhaps in a more direct way than we did in the past. and, and that's maybe what we can learn from last year, the warmest year and much the wonder and over a 100000 years. and that, that's just the universe and far as to, to take on board. i think maurice, let me ask you to follow up a little bit on what john was talking about there. cuz you know, he's essentially saying that, you know, the world really needs to be paying more attention to all this. of course, we're talking about a time, right? now where you are, have zambia and malawi, they've also recently declared states of disasters due to drought. and there are fears that this drought that sweeping throughout southern africa could be one of the worst in decades. how can you make people pay more attention to this? and actually start acting on it and doing something about it. thank you. i think

the evidence, she says wait a minute and clear the dying. that's beautiful. i dying the mileage and my new money, my mother, she made of the children. the numbers idea seeing that as missing food in south africa and if she goes to the countries legs. yes. that's the beauty for most magical use as a home see deals. i'm now in trouble that attends you, that the situation is extremely, extremely dire. i'm the daughter was about to doing was mentioning highly, i'm active in these cutting, the middle is easy, it's key is way to do french. we have, we are seeing extreme cases, all the climates getting older and you're not really something i don't think that they are the only the main factor in eastern i think that was the same causing flooding in areas we jo effectively usually made it right. so the national home in india thing we need to really, really go back and start acting on our promises,

making sure that people don't die. you can do some checking because on the drought . so we know that is going to be a plus because of climate change, but you try to do something we can accomplish. we can, we can make sure that you have supporting children to go back to score. we are, we can make sure that we have the 14 communities to avoid hunger and very easy to see of something that is going to really get less. so we have just to make sure that we, i look at doing the governments once we get a feeling was i was planning to national is that the government is also started me to start investing in symptoms. most the climate change is going to be here. we best manage the dimensional community, need to start getting money in terms of performance of government on climate change so that the blue bodies access to communities to get funding that they can help in terms of want to provide mules. i'm please send you inflected and so we recently, but we need to really invest in maurice. let me, let me also ask you about some of the other knock on effects of all as we talked

about other to potentially also be flooding. but the fact of the matter is right now, you have the un office for the coordination of mandatory in affairs. they're saying that this drought is causing many people to use unsafe water sources. this may potentially fuel color outbreaks and that's something that's already effecting several southern african countries as i understand. so how much worse to this get into teams really, really good. it was um, as you mentioned, to me uh, sold and actually you guys had one of their west 15 p takes on a similar to countries a whole new amazon. the out of them was, i'm busy by way of them. i've had very serious because as on the corner of the visual, as mentioned, the very clearly that this has to be the one on their watch cases on corner. and this was mainly driven by the quick access to time because they dropped the entry office. so you can console that optic. so as each vision was mentioned,

you to live in, get lost because when you have the most of this episode of extreme inclement morning, really has to be, i've seen in the recent past. so investments around always done it to use, supporting communities, making sure that'd be, have access to water and making sure that they have access to a food city and definitely good job. all these are things that we all need to invest in at the local level, but also getting the support from the international community because visitors are remote desk and you do get to us john, i can see you want to jump in. i'll give you that opportunity just a minute. i just need to ask carlow a, a quick question, carlow, you know, we're at a point in time now where droughts the floods, the other extreme weather events. they are expected to only increase. you have global temperatures that are continuing to rise from your perspective. what measures should policy makers be taking to try to mitigate the impact of all of this and, and, you know, how can they make the world more aware that more needs to be done as well?

you know, some, some uh, claimant's lands points of view, but the responses price stay for the defense is we do understand from the physics behind the global word and the technician, not be, not gotten. yes he is. so he wants to be there for me to gaze the bottles. i'd say it's, we need to page that 0 and he should be in this office by the way. but i would like to go back to what john was saying about the frame, the defendant saying that needed lane to together patient as well. because i did some we were talking today about the job in southern us. we kind of needs in both. i think he's an example of a good way to explain the phone. can we change? yes. so the, the, you were maurice on, on the hill is to some extent can be for the so the fact that he said he knew it was what could they could back in may. so we knew that, i mean, it was kind,

we knew when it was going to be at least similar to the young man, a part of the reaction in place and be possible because we do know something about them. and they just to, it was the last case and to some extent of it to them wasn't, they couldn't find it. so we had information that is or why so make it what decision make by other society we are not yet fully capable of taking the information. so in a sense, for me to teach the kind of the products that we do know, we can talk about the assignments and what the client is going to do in the future . the price is the tennessee was a good example of a piece of products and dollars medicine and you know, the law of size and then back across the top in the, in the countries that tender only wages. but there is a no loss of things. we do know how to find that and the society we have not yet taken to the but of the for makes right likely the price to make here is to do more

in say that again is that excess, submitting the information. we have the new feature, right? because i sorry to interrupt you carla, but i see john is been want to jump in here for awhile. go ahead john. i was going to respond to what morris was saying about knock on the fence and somebody who stood close to the the great victoria falls when there was no watch or going over the fall as, as, as i imagined is very much the case. now you begin to realize that it's not just agriculture drives, it's not just food supply as the generation develop, tricity for the cities for commerce, for industry, is the stifling that we cannot meet development that goes on as a, as an in direct knock on the fact of climate change of this nature. so i think we have to take a wide view here of where we have to constant trace our investment flows. now in 2021 time it's related to finance flow is what about $1.00 at trillion

dollars, but we know that from the previous one of the data on to the end of the century and the need is going to be $1300.00 trillion dollars. so you know, that's a huge jump in terms of how do we cope with climate change in the future. and i think that's what i sent them. that morris was kind of guessing out there at the fact that we're not responding on the scale. but sufficient to title this problem on his, partly because of self interest in our own, the well developed economies that we won't part with the money that's necessary to undo the damage that we are call to the law. so it's a question of information. it's a question sensitizing the public. it's a question of how do we tell them about climate change? how do we get away from the kind of fatigue from the short term difficulties and

that's a job. i think partly for media, it's hardly a job to get the message across. maybe more effectively than we hop because scientists, i'll be honest, scientists are not good communicators. we're not bra shopping extradition, of communicating the message other than through scientific papers and conferences that have a very limited audience. so i think we have to change the way we communicate to climate science, the criticality of it. but if you like to, to the general public and that's, that's a big task for which we need an uninformed media 1st of all, unless be under some of some of our media, interviewers, not, not yourself, but we do get media into hers draws up in a tradition that which is a known scientists tradition, and the questions they ask are off not the best questions. we get sounds as who tompkins, the best communication in terms of answers. so we have to talk a lot issue, a sent a square to get the sensitize ation. of the general public to the set to this

problem up to the level of which they will say, yes, i'm responsible and i'm willing to forego some of my income tax, some of my, the one percent of global g d p that it would take at john void 1.5 degrees. i'm willing to go for go one percent of global g d p. to make good. it's our promises to the developing world. maurice, i saw you reacting to a lot of what john was saying that i'm interested to get your take. we don't have a whole lot of time left, but let me ask you, john was saying that essentially, you know, a lot of us that we're just not responding on the scale that's needed to this climate crisis. right? um, you're seeing this all on a very human level when it comes to the people that you're working with, the communities that your observing. how do we get to a place where this is being given the attention and is getting the political will but it needs in order to actually move the needle going forward. a sure thing to

have, i think that is my, my, what i'm seeing a is a, is that a blow more minute to do a lot of really, really close at the point where this is happen to have. that is one of the things that i think the maybe i was doing is mentioning that most of the critical, really by the voice of these people are less strict bank leverage crisis. because of what we have seen those. i believe we can talk a lot of the global level. we really make the problem is actually in terms of government financing by the industrial toilet using those promises, that's going to be a be slow. so that is something that we need it to really make sure we are getting more and more as from the what you're seeing in southern africa. now, what we have seen in the communities where we are walking across the blind, international re, i'm seeing manage the rest of it being fed. so trying to change the things that we

are also emphasizing that some of them have just make a few points on some of the things that you have emphasized thing is that the asian, what reduction, i mean, terms of greenhouse, let me show it should be a fundamental, fundamental agreement globally, that we need to reduce the account is that the going to be that less? i do want us to be russell effective and we need to leave out on this investment. i've seen that in there recently, and 11, for example, the communities that we are working with us money international. so i'm gonna do my very, very, very well. and they don't have the means to really talk, investing on some of the learning. international communities would come up with make kind of zones that kind of some of these way to really about letting the communities, thanks to all of our guests today, john sweeney maurice on the on go and carlo one temple and thank you to for watching you and see the program again, any time by visiting our website. i'll just share a dot com. that's a further discussion and go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com,

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