said 5 conflicts, political upheaval, some of those we talk to elsewhere is saying that they sled update hearing that other villages had been attacked. what we do in all just sarah, is try to balance the stories, the good, the bad, the id tell. it says it was, and he's the people who allow us into their lives, dignity into minus. he asked me to tell this story or the space prime minister petro sanchez and see is late to smooth lease tour and catch all. but the crucial time for the wine to reach him. the goals state has hosted several thoughts on ending israel's war on concept. prime minister sanchez calls for c spa and israel to respect. international law resonated worldwide when he strongly condemned the october the 7th attack. sanchez is also demanded the protection of civilians co top in israel as we were on gaza. as the death toll now

stands at around $33000.00 springs, voices growing louder in the international arena, demanding access to humanitarian aid, and advocating for a recognized policy and state spain support and policy extends beyond the middle east balances relations with major powers like the united states and russia, well navigating the poor, the implications of the war and the crank. prime minister sanchez's at the cross roads of these complex 2 political dynamics. how will spain manage this era of global challenges and the rapidly changing international landscape? the spanish prime minister petro sanchez, talks to, well just the petro sanchez, spanish prime minister, thank you for talking to out to 0. you were one of the 1st leaders in the will to cool for a cease fire and golf. so i looked it up, it was the 21st of october last year. at the time you spoke

4651 palestinians had been killed. now so many others, according for us, the spa, the us is dropped to subjection the un security council. we go to un security council resolution yet the death toll now stands around $33000.00. that means that more than 28000 people, many of the women and children have died since you 1st made your cool for cease file. so i'm going you, i have to tell you, well, 1st of all, thank you very much for for the 2nd interview and i have to share with you. but sometimes i feel very frustrated because say, of course we've been very vocal since the beginning of this war. we come down the say horrible and tables. teresa tax a, preparatory by him, us and we, we condemned those attacks. but of course we asked for a permanent cease fire scene, say 2 or 3 weeks after the secretaries of tax on the,

on the recently step the, you cannot to answer the be, say, kind of attacks only with the we punch or with the logic of war there's other ways to deal with these terrible situations, and that is why, you know, i think it's, it's really important to, to, to, to have the engagement of the old international community in order to, to ask for a cease fire or to, to allow the, the money tell you a to access into a gas that of course, the media and origin, a release of elf hostages. of course, there is no spot in place. the guns went silent for a little bit at the end of november, just for 7 days. when the security council finally passed its resolution, oldest members, welcome to even the u. s. that abstained said positive things. it was welcomed by the palestinian authority. it was even welcomed by how much the only people who didn't welcome that security council resolution fact vehemently condemned it. what

israel is israel and obstacles a piece of this that i think that the thing you have on his government with these spots, which he is getting more and more isolated internationally in the beginning, i think that we all feel that solidarity with the citizens and the a society that was attacked by, by tories the, an organization. but up towards these unbalanced and the horrible situation that the appeal to all the international community is sort of put in the prime minister. and they've been yahoo and a very difficult on isolated situation. and we think the international community, i can see, for instance, also in europe, in the beginning of the war, some countries more align with the position, the political position of office where i live nowadays have changed seats their positions up from optically. because they're all societies are asking for more and

it's tough and clear and political positions the worst we are. unfortunately, we've seen in, in gusta, in the spring, i can say that the, uh, the majority of our citizens. and they do believe that they, we need peace, we need to restore peace. we need to have an origin today on permanency, expired on the ground. and of course, to, to answer the most urgent the issue nowadays in gaza, which is, how can we allow the entry of humanitarian 8th, eh, on, on the, with the proportionality to respond to these humanitarian crisis that we are? or if it gets it, these are suffering. you were on the visit to the region you painted, you wouldn't you been to saudi arabia and you'll now in kata. and he, even though har along with colorado, this is one of the places they've been trying to get a deal on a c spot in tulips. what's the latest you're hearing about that?

do you believe it's close? i don't have food. i don't have information. if you sclerosis not to what i can share with you is my, my will, and i think the will of and the majority of the international community, which is to have this permanency fire. and i have to also to remember that the, the resolutions of the security counts who are biding for old member states also for israel. so i think it's a mandatory for the government. they'll probably maybe certainly find yahoo, of course to, to have this permanency fire. and i think this will be a very important step in order to, to give a political horizon to the region in order to open a peace process. cool, that's good to and, and to add the international recognition to move forward recognition. and for the easy way these and for the protest time people, you talk about binding security council resolutions. that's not just the one on the see saw that the end of last year they would to resolutions,

but more age should go in the international court of justice, which also has binding measures. it's announced twice says the same thing should have more. i to go in and yet it's not happening. do you think israel is in breach of the security council resolutions, the international court of justice measures. and if so, what, what action should we take? i think that the there, so actually some that would seem be in the sense that you are the same. and i can tell you that within the danielle, for instance, to governments, the i use government and also the spanish government. we ask at the, if you can commission to make an assessment on the humanitarian rules articles that are included in the ad. so could you relation that the opinion has with the, with the israel custody agreement, the assign between a you 2nd and is relevant. i mean you for it and if, if they find that israel is not living up to its respect for human rights, for example, that is in, that's agreement. what action should be taken? well, in the case of the okay and you know, they're, they're, they're,

the situation would be that the, there's an open door to, to, to have the bait. we think the pm tells you in order to me, to see if we continue with the assistance of the relation or not. but this is something that 1st we need to have the assessment of, of the information. but anyhow, as, as i said before, the important thing is that nowadays, it seems of the beginning of the war, more or more countries, especially in the western world, are more reluctant to support them back. what the prime minister nathan depends on who's government is doing in augusta. and there's an urgency to stop this terrible war and to open a new phase of somebody the piece for space in the region. and i think that's where you are, for instance, of these little, the eh, and moral conviction, which is the case. so, so in our geopolitical interest, using our political interests to have an unstable and prosperous and peaceful meet,

at least. so this is something that i, i've, i've, i've been advocating and that is why we've been very vocal also. we seem to appear in union in order to, to have this approach and the i'm and also to have it on the strategic position of what to do from the european union with our cell phone neighborhood. which by the way, i can tell you, i think that there's plenty of opportunities for the union and also for ad the, these countries in india may be individually stunned. that even china humanitarians have repeatedly come under attack and casa, the latest tragic incident. 7 workers from the world, central kitchen, that's the n g o set up of the spanish shift. jose andries were killed. they also been working together with the spanish n g o. would you put that food supplies in by ship that come by ship because the israel is not allowing enough that stuff in by land. how is any of this acceptable?

it is not acceptable. i think that it's important to condemn this terrible situation. then the very thing too, is extremely dangerous at circumstances and that the aid workers are working or a yes, having on the ground in augusta. and that is why i think it's important. first of all, as i did to condemn this, a horrible bumping that causes the battle for 7 workers. which by the way, were working in augusta because people in guys, an art starving. and they need food. and these n t o i live by this is spanish geoff course. and this, what they do is just to provide at food for the people. and that, of course, what we ask a base where the government is at to clarify and the, the, the situation on the, on why this happened in guess a cause. this isn't the one off,

more humanitarian up to the world because of died in gauze or than anywhere else in the world. a 150 your more you and staff members more medical stuff here than anywhere else in the world. specs. the question is these randy homie just very, very bad at targeting? or is it about the rules of engagement? is that some sort of indiscriminate shoot co policy going on here? i don't know. this is something that these are the government has to answer. what i can tell you is that the situation on the ground, the slot acceptable. and, and this brings me again to the same answer that i gave you since the beginning of the interview. we need a permanency fire. we need to uh, to convene a peace conference, which by the way, something a proposal that not only european union, but also the or up leak on this. let me conference we agreed on. so i think it's important that from europe and also from the up countries we've worked together in this peace conference in order to, to, to move forward. and to leave behind these 3 world war and to establish the

conditions for a peaceful, a quick systems in, in, in the short term. you say israel needs to answer these questions. is this real potentially need to answer these questions to the international criminal court? does that need to be accountability for the sort of actions there has to be always accountability? i think that think history's full of examples where it's urgent and needed this kind of accountability. but this is something that the, the international uh, courts of justice has to respond. and uh, what do we need to do is to ask at these, what are the government to fulfill? which is now based binding, which is of course that you, him at risk solutions calling for a permanency supplier. we talked about to monitoring workers medical stuff, june and this is what we'll just have died in garza than anywhere else in the world . now problem this and this and you know, whose government is finding out as a result for patients. and israel is this quite literally

a case of israel shooting the messenger who will offer free press is on the hallmark of any, uh, i would say self respecting uh, a democratic government and the from my side on, from the spanish type. what we do is to uh, to support to the uh, the, the work uh, made by the majority of these across the world. and especially in gus that in these very difficult circumstances. so you've talked about the famine in gaza, which now the integrated food security phase classification report, which came out as couple of weeks ago, says, is coming in full on the set between now and may. it is a man made from and is it not what, you know, it's a greek, it's quite specifically. and these really made funding. what i do believe is the, and i was, i was in rough uh at that time you mentioned the, the beginning of the, of the interview. it is, it is critical that the,

the israel opens the possibility to, to have these, to many tyree an 8 going into gas as soon as possible. and perhaps we're talking about, of course, land crossings. and of course, in the amount of $1000.00 or a 2000 tracts per day, this is the terrible situation that the people in guess are suffering. and this is something that the international community kind of accept. and uh, and that is why i think that the not only from the un security council also from the young union council, and we had a, a cal's hill. and some weeks ago, we command these when the government to open these lands crosses in order to have an available vc many 3 and a for the it gets a piece with regard to the you. joseph morales. the hi representative of foreign affairs that used to be your foreign minister. you know him well he said recently,

if you believe too many people have been killed, maybe you should provide less homes in order to prevent so many people being killed . to see you need to stop selling weapons to israel and know you show your country is no longer sending any we're no longer sending a weapons. and i, i do agree with this statement made by uh, it just simple in and uh, what i can tell you is that, um, i don't think that this a strategy is going to give more security to the is riley society after this war ends. because i think that the end, the only way to, to have a peaceful coexistence on the security that the piece way that people needs is for politics. so, diplomacy, not with war on this, especially type of war that we are witnessing and guessing. so many leaders, including yourself and the only thing was in the west bank. well we're, i'm meeting the old and that's what i wanted to ask you about. because so many

leaders, including yourself, a wound about the danger of this war spreading in that context. israel's recent attack on me writing in diplomatic building and the syrian capital damascus . do you think killed top officials of the codes force? do you think that was acceptable or reckless active publications? acceptable? it's not acceptable. it needs to be clarified by israeli government. and of course these and goes into direction that you mentioned before, which is we need to avoid an escalation of the conflict in the region and from a spain we have deployed many years ago, one of our largest, the u emissions on the ground, which is in leaving on the, on the, of course we are trying to, to guarantee the peaceful coexistence between the leaving these people, the, i'm the east way people in that's a very difficult border between the, these 2 countries and,

and we are very concerned about the situation and that is why we ask and we commend the sway to government to try to avoid these. the said this region of this kind of issue that we are witnessing, for instance, with this an attack and in series when the war is eventually over. who should run garza and who should pay to rebuild it should as well be required, for example, to pay reparations for some of the damage they cost. in my opinion, the assign eligibility is our partner for the international community and think that they have the capacity. and if they don't have the capacity, we need to give them the capacity to get the full responsibility of over a gas out is there was an also the west back. and from the spanish perspective, i think that we're leaving now we move into, we're at the international community as a whole. we must recognize the full members people at this time in the you and

system. and of course, by naturally, and from the case of his pain, we are ready to, to, to support and recognize the state of palestine. because this momento has to be different to the others that we, we, we witness a over the past 7 tickets, which is okay. if we can be in this international peace conference at, on this time, must to come to the table with a rick of nation and taking by the international community of their own state and the, the, the debates with the international community. and the reason with these ran, the government in my view should be at what would be the voters would, would be. and let's say the, the, the, the, the government, and so, and so forth. you talk about the policy, new sources. yep. payments and nothing. you know, who says on a single source, he can't run gas or often with how is the international community going to strong

on these writing these on issues like this. you have the prime minister and he's writing, such as, you know, nathan, yahoo, who has been trying to, we can the palestine of 42 over the past years. this is said, this is the consequence that we are now witnessing the augusta and what we need to say reinvigorate the palestine of warranty. i think it's important that we have ready to work at a low. we've our friends that presume that pass on of course a new prime minister of the find a sign up for the but i think that the, you know, they have to take that full responsibility of guys up eh, westbank on these roads you're selling. and of course, again, the international community must take a very important step in order to, to recognize the state of oddest time. i'm, by the way also, i think there's some momentum for a multiplication. also, some are countries have to recognize, is trying to, in order to, to have these a peaceful coexistence. the problem is progress and nothing, you know,

who you talked about to state station and whatever it doesn't believe in. that's all i thought. well, actually just want to state solution because the other one is already recognized. i mean, is well by most of the countries and especially in the western world. so this is why i think is, is one of state solution. and that one is the solution and will bring to to the recognition of on a sign of state. and i continue, we seem to appear in union, of course, spain with mean very bulk of since the beginning. but there are more of more countries are more, more sympathetic with, with this idea. and in terms of recognition, there's another thing going on which is, if protestant is going to be a state, it needs to be a u. n. member as well. and on top of the policy number of the to the u. n. a sent them back to us with un secretary general. that's the 1st step. and then they go to the security council. i'm told around the security council table, mama, 15 members, they have the 9 groups they need. the question is the americans because they have

veto power. they could veto this. what is your message to the us on palestine becoming un member and on recognition stood the us recognized protestant as the states as well. i think that the, the bite of them is tracing these, you know, trying to do their best in order to find the political solution to these type of war. and so i, i recognize that political will. uh, 2nd a, would we? so 1st in the printing war and up to worse in, in, in, in gas that is that more or more politically to the bait, eh, and the influence are not in security because who but all the general assembly. i do believe that in the general assembly, there's a huge majority of countries that agree with these petition may by, by the, by the sign up for the to, to get the full membership of the un around the general assembly diving countries

on the general assembly. and i've had it on this program, which was the present to brazil, for example, as a claim is double standards going on here. when you look at ukraine in garza, if attacking hospitals and bombings civilians is wrong in ukraine, then why was it not wrong in casa? do you think the goss statements, the cause of policies? if somebody, one of the west and allies are going to make it harder to get international support for the other wall that still going on past, we're not focusing on it so much. and ukraine, from my perspective, what i see is that the, we have it according position. i mean, in spain, and we are, we've a crane because we defend and we're older based on votes. and one of these main peter says, you know, quite well is the respect, all 5 of the international of national, so barely t under 33. i'm thinking with the over the country which is nowadays and not

respected by, by the weight. if one member of the un security council at, at the clinton redeem on russia, or i'm, i'm because we're co and we also are current and very vocal on the warning guessing. because what we are witnessing a table, a lot of questions, one of them, if, if it's eh, each way, respecting or not i'm fulfilling or not the un security council resolutions or, or for instance, the international humanitarian law. so and again, i think that the, because we are current new cream. i'm in augusta. we are a defending, you know, the international law. how, what read all you about the situation in ukraine because a year ago that was all this talk about counter offensive. since that, by the ukrainian since then, and then recent months, very slowly, it seems the russian side of the ones that they're making gains goals that has all

the attention. it means the potentially the funding of the weapons going away from ukraine. and then you have another suspect to on the horizon in november. you might get president trump back in the white house who might pull the plug from president semanski completely. are you worried that ukraine is going to lose this war? i don't think that the credit is going to lose this war because today, everybody in the world knows that there's a nation called grain that wants to be respected and defend their, their own freedom in order to be closer to the european union on to our values and by the way, to be member of, of the opinion and in becoming a future. so i don't think that they're going to lose the war. and i don't think that the poor thing is going to win the war. what i told because in, in the beginning of the war, but he wanted to do is to invade a 100 percent of the $330.00. okay. and this is not the case anymore. so i think

that the big risk is that we are, we've seen that kind of a frozen crop coughed. so i'm going to see you skilfully dodge the last part of my question. president putin. you say he's not going to win the war and ukraine. the rest of them trump might well when the election in november he says he can sort this out in the day, he could on the cot presidency. lensky, us, you know, they're all sorts of fee is, i mean, he's, he's doubting optical fives. the basic rule of and they took charge of the old for one rule. if one is attacked you will support, you will support them. are you worried about the possible return of president trump? well, i'm a progressive fan. prime minister, my government is a progressive one. so what i would like to have is say, well, 1st of all, i have grades relations with president by then i'm, he's administration, and i'm, you know, i would like to be seen reelected as a, especially of the us. but this is something that has to be responded by us citizens when we were we are looking for is to have the best relations with the us

administration mat trampled by then, or who was in charge of leaving the country. i think one of the major bones between the us and europe is it made is our trust, atlantic bone which us and then think relation. and i think these are both the prime minister or the pressing the of one or other countries. noise is something that is strategic for the security, not only for europe, but also for the us and the, and the so i don't, i don't think that we are going to, we miss eh, we can position of need to, in, in the coming years seem to case that the drum wins the elections and what we are going to do to witness is what we are seeing over the past 2 years, which is a stronger nato and piece is close by at put these were, this is the of the products,

the products is that they would put in votes that it was not only 2 man team, they do ukraine, but also to weaken the nature. and what he has accomplished is the country. now you have sweden, you have been done to, you have a stronger nato, and then we send you opinion. we have a stronger cause is that we need to do more on our ad defense and to turns capacity. and this is something that we are on weight uh eh, doing eh, within the community. and so i, i always say that we don't have a problem with the russian society. and we have a problem with every gene which is a putting into question the borders and therefore the security not only off a crane, but also off of you and therefore of the whole world. and this is something that we need, again, add to solve as who the people might be k at ways. but unfortunately it to be a,

it's not possible. let's see. let's hope that in the future we can find that way. spanish prime minister petro sanchez, thank you for talking to out. just, sarah, thank you very much. the african narratives from african perspective. nature has always been there some way my child to show documentary spine african film make is looking at the archives that we have sometimes quite heartbreaking to look for what is key a is that is part of our history that couple from nigeria and we writing libraries from africa direct on, i'll just be around in a world full of douglas hope was so scared you donated we deliver it in

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