is of oregon, these helicopters flying over the ridge spring something and they didn't even see the case for 2 women fought for justice. i get some of the most powerful forces in the world. the people versus agents orange. my knowledge is 0 will is well respond to the wrongs. first, the direct attack, these ready to government is under pressure not to retaliate but says it's weighing its options. what could they be? and what would the direct confrontation between the region arrivals mean for an already follow tom? at least this is inside story. the hello there on james buys. the smoke has played and the dust has settled after runs on president of the tack on israel. the saturday night to attack, the 1st direct military action targeting israel from the radian soil was

proportional retaliation, says iran for the bombing of its consulate in syria is ready to lead us without respond when the time is right. they say if it is a growing that this could escalate into a regional war and all those fee is justified, we'll get the comments about panel in just a moment. but 1st this report from sent him on a unprecedented attack. begins by what these really military said were 300, a rainy in droves and miss files. the staff day overnight barrage was the 1st time that iran had launched. a direct attack on the regional arrival. most weapons were intercepted by air defenses. israel's government has vowed to retaliate. you will should be one of the one in the face of the iranians. right. we'll build a regional coalition on the exact price from yvonne in the fashion and timing that is right for us on its own. clear how is real pounds to respond. the white house

says the us will defend israel, but will participate in any retaliatory strikes. the attack followed the bombing of the reigning consulate in syria 2 weeks ago, which are wrong. blaine's israel, for among the 7 radians killed, was one of the highest ranking officers in around the republican guard. iran says what it called a proportional response was necessary. as long meet on our actions were limited. we had informed the white house that our military actions were to be limited, precise with the intention for self defense and to punish the is really wishing man . the rising tension sparks fears of a wider conflict in the region. the un secretary general is among world leaders cooling on all sides to show restraint is we have a share, the responsibility to actively engaged all parties consent to prevent further the escalation. iran said it has no plans for further military action, but that any attack by israel would spark and even larger response. the vincent

monahan al jazeera for inside story. the let's discuss all of this with a panel of guests today. joining us from dayton, ohio in the us today run the slim is a senior fellow and director of conflict resolution to the middle east institute in durham and northern england robot geist pen fold is electra and peace and security at durham university and in tennessee, israel a keep a elder is a political analyst, an author of the book, notes of the land, which is about israel, sacraments in the occupied territories. thank you, old of you for talking to us. we heard in our report to you and set country general talking about the situation at the security council. he says the middle east is on the brink, ronda in a different scenario. if that had been death, so many casualties. we may have already gone over the brink. would you not agree?

yes, of course. i think we might have gotten over the bank and that's why thank you, ron might have on the, on it on stage this this attack anyway to avoid a civilian death to avoid fatalities. we are definitely in a new era in the region in terms of the conflict between iran and is your l. will have moved from a shed to war, where the rules of the game with somehow understood between them. now we are in a new era where we have a good ex, military confrontation between them. from here on instead of 2 d, 2 is right to is ran. and there are new rules that are being negotiated basically, militarily, or in did equity between them. through these confrontation and so definitely we are . yes, the region is going to be on the brink. okay. why that asian war from now on every

time there is a confrontation between them. there is a threat of 3 gen devolving into a y that each level akiva we know prime minister netanyahu these views on iran. i've attended for more than the last 10 years. the un general assembly every year in new york, the high level session, and some years he's not mentioned the palestinians, he's done his whole speech about it wrong. are you surprised that so far? he's shown some restraint and i'm not surprised because it's not just an attorney. i don't know that there is a world cabinet where you can see members of the, the central bought the guns and i as in call, that they are watching him very carefully. it's like the babysitting game. and the other thing is that's on the oh no, it was that. uh uh, it's a lot still. uh, not donald trump. uh, the white house. uh we have a president that uh,

doesn't trust the attorney. oh. and he knew that uh, is this a whiny and wouldn't have ended the way it did a. so anything else? first of all, it has to listen to uh, the chief all for the is rarely a and a c. s. service and to uh, the chief of staff to the army and the boss. now, i think the real prime minister of israel in these days, maybe since october 7th is joe biden. not the our, the is lady probably doesn't dress him. even many members of his own body, i'm not sure that he is not motivated by his interest to remove from his gender, his personal problem,

his trials and this up actually i read today that uh president. trump is using the conflict between israel and the other 2, the more the american agenda from his dryer, some of his own problems. so there are some similarities between that and you know, and drugs and maybe drum. nothing else is what by doing whole brings that's in november. there will be someone else has a white house that he can convert is to uh, attack you on like he tried. so. busy drops as you mentioned, james, and perhaps the release that uh from the well, uh what they did before. well, the most anxious lindy roberts would. none of us are able to right now. know exactly what's going on in israel

because none of us are in those wood cabinet meetings, but explained to me what you think the current is, riley position is a, as we speak now, as well. you know, what, what are we talking about is ready? you call it takes, we like to kind of create the simple divide between hooks and dog senior goes. what them, what stream response to any kind of event like this though, i'm the responses that we're hearing so far. it's still very much. he is a, it leaks, it shows you just how we know we call it rely too much on his characterization. we have people like a guy the eyes and got we have people like by the guns who as opposed to those in israel's coated couple of issues. actually all unit is roshan immediately responded to rock walls that a rainy attack was taking place. and from what we're hearing, it was actually benjamin netanyahu at he was far more restrained and suggested that you know, which is what was your basically wait to see of what the after effects all or how

the rain you didn't talk when. and the reason the israel hasn't come responded yet . this comes back to the 1st question that you asked. all right, the reason is what hasn't responded yet is because that was he mentioned, no, that's no significant damage done. and that is also why the international coalition and was involved in shooting down those drums and shooting down those other projectiles. we know that at least one foot, those projectiles would not shut down by israel. they were shut down by a combined gas of the joint damaged the americans and united kingdom. the people have been asking the legitimate question of why this intervention? why have these power has intervened in this conflict? now when they've been happy to, let's add the cad israel's campaign roll on in garza, i'm the, i'm sorry, is this designed to avoid casualties? have those ones the project has not been intercepted? i think it's bad to say you wouldn't be seeing concrete damage in his route. you will be seeing at casualties, possibly, particularly not to the military base,

which seems to be the target of these attacks. so in the intervention, the international coalitions basically pull the rug out from those extremists and as well no matter what the consequences would be arguing for israel to respond decisively perhaps by actually attacking and rein sort to run the. um, we're looking at a few public comments from sr is riley officials and also lots and lots of these riley sources of you know, who been whispering things to general this one from these ready tv channel channel 12 saying that eventually that is going to be a significant response before we continue the discussion, maybe you should lay out for us. well, that actually would mean for the region. i mean, the significant, the response does not the has to be a in open, military confrontation between the 2 countries. after all, they have been instances in the past when called the action took place. uh, you know, assess the nation of officials,

scientists then you'd on of the people associated with the access of assistance. um, you know, the 8 on let the access of resistance, like you had money in damascus with the strategies that at all and that, and so, so they have been these, these responses. but to have that where, i mean, it has been this helps a shadow or between them when they put in tools that are not openly available initially open the known way used. and i think this could come in this form in the future. it's the kind of response that, you know, people on both sides of the item. we know that every patient has taken place and we might not not know about that what, what it was that that could be one form of response. and i think up yesterday the read out from the meeting of senior american officials with the press was that

the united states saying that the incident has the right to defend itself. so they have not closed the door on some kind of response by israel. but as the quotes have said, the 2nd i think of, i mean the selection of defense basically informs you this where a concert part let us know ahead of time. unlike what happened to that example with a so 80 strike on damascus in damascus on the army and conflict with the americans with informed of the back as the plains where the heavy or as of, you know, as, as the, as that that started. and so, so at least now the americans are saying, okay, you want $35.00, you think about the choice. think about the cost of this with that nation and also what kinds of retaliation it. i mean by then president biden has made it clear that he's not going to support what equal in offensive reaction against it on by israel . and so with what kind of freaked that nation, would it be considered defensive?

and what kind of an evaluation would be considered by the american as offensive? okay, i like to talk about the possible military options there are for israel in a moment, but robot or you had a run to that talk about the shadow rule that had been going on. did israel breaks the sort of unwritten rules of that shut a wall that had developed his own parameters by that attack on the conflict in damascus? i didn't think so. i mean, this was always make an escalation. what happened? that was not a usual occurs. the shutter will, but you have to remember the israel is doing things like this previously, including attacks on solving is rarely territory. we've had individuals involved in the radian nuclear program assassinated within iran's borders and around didn't respond to those assassinations in the way it responded to this talk on the consulate which took place,

as you said in damascus. no. actually in iran and syria on the 1st of april. so we run is basically trying to change the rules of the game. everybody's trying to rain in this room and say, look, if you carry out these kind of attacks, they will not be met by a better response in the shot. it will pass through one of our proxies. they will be met by a direct attack when he's ready to territory. that's exactly why. and that's still this support to appetite in his role from some sections of his right. the society for decisive response. even though that would have cavities to basically say, we cannot let iran change the rules of the games they have to pay a high price for doing what they've done, regardless of how the type actually panda a key. but you all the intent of eve, that'd be honest to you about the appetite among the public for further retaliation . what has the writing and the tax done to public opinion? has it unified, the country behind is missing yahoo! or, well, there's a takes me back to $91.00 to the 1st gulf war. what are these very people were

divided as well as the, in the cabinet and mr. the show me you has accepted the american to request to use a restraint and not to retaliate after so that he was attacked by uh, scott, me. so i was from iraq. and i think until today i didn't pass was, gives you oscar a voter of very good. oh bang greer. he will tell you that um, just to restrain is a weakness that in the middle east, in this part of the world, you cannot afford the knots to retaliate. and you can even turn a blind eye. busy blind ear to the request of the president of the united states. um, well,

shall we listen to to president bush senior. and he swirled the human vision and now and bring service to you. question james, there are, is rarely so i'm very grateful to uh, the president the president biden. and they believe that on the oh should keep listening to him for them this uh, at the on saturday and uh, you know, people were soaking up the water. this battery is now the stop was, was a lot of them. uh, i went sunday to uh, the new 0 and i was told that uh, we were me and my wife was the 1st and only businesses in the museum. so people have a seating offer, leave, and grateful, and they also know how important is the lions?

where's the arrow enables danielle is of course, writing on this success because the headlines in these ready papers is that uh is, uh, technology is very high. derek has to really, it's a significant success and actually even, hey, this is a great day for these riley minutes already. industry is now there is a more demand off uh, in the facilities of uh, intersection. uh, drones is proven that is very efficient. um, but i believe that the mainstream is larry's were very concerned about the attack. people was saving via the, the radio and television until 2 o'clock. and the rodney is wherever general is

because they gave us the timeline of the attack. and in the morning when people went to what ways read the ice and because uh it was uh, a fairly short night for them. and i don't think that there, there is good appetite to go back to the shoulders. and uh uh, to uh, experience as such, a kind of a journey who was, i can tell you. um, it was very, very frightening. james. okay, well, that spring and run to that, what options do you think israel has? if it's going to respond in some way, but not with a full out full military attack, i mean, is that some sort of symbolic attack? it could do a cyber attack, an attack on somewhere that's not, is riley sort a rainy and soiled, the attack. what one of his proxies, for example, like i said, i think this idea of this phones will be some kind of a, i mean,

better. i mean, i don't know what, but one option would be you know, cyber attack on the systems that have been used in that tax on is red. busy some kind of fat back on the base from when ms side is drones. when launched, whether it's a, you know, a, a, a targeted attack or whether it's a cyber attack. so i think this is a kind of symbolism that it on will understand. so they said we attacked their way to did x hit on the base from when the weapons that way use in the attack on the mask is sweat launched? um and then so a reply from israel in targeting the places from, with the weapons used in the either on and at that on is there

a way to launch or the system themselves would be that kind of symbolism that basically get on with understand if it's what that which this is the kind of helps a group that has so far to govern data shed to war. but again, we are a different area for the 1st time you have data at that, from it on and so on. so the 80, so it understand the cupboard at the x that target to get on in sciences on it, on the integrity. i understand that i get that, but this is a different kind of attack. and we had a now this, this confrontation between the 2, the compass patient between the 2 is now governed by new rules. and so we are entering this interaction a period where each one of them is going to try to set these new rules or how to say, you know, and until this new role is between them that governs this called this patient's.

they are basically negotiated via different means diplomatic, military, whatever and understood by everybody and governing the next phase of the contestation. we are entering very be a period of unstable stalemate, where any kind of at that between the 2 shadow or do you that can people into a region or work. and that's why, but each it is coming in the region right now is feeding regionally. those 3 people in the region of feeling that we are under a new kind of situation in you a different phase of the conflict that and there are, that's why you are heating all of the for the ministers. all the lead, the pushing for the escalation was saying, your wife and so the run that you're right there was so many people calling for restraint among them. president biden, but real books, they're all so voices coming from the us that a saying no, don't show restraint. this is the time to finish it. the job take out it runs

nuclear facilities. just listen to john bolton, who used to be uh, president trump national security adviser, speaking on a us cable tv station. a way to pin that down uh is for israel to go after a ron's nuclear weapons program, which i think it can destroy or disable and very substantial parts. if israel is prepared to go after and ron's nuclear program, the united states should proudly join them. what do you make of that robot as well? what i make of it is people who have been saying the same things we use using and you still have current events to say the same thing they've been saying for years. and john bolton on any day will tell you the is roasted strongly through runs nuclear program, and now he just sees an opportunity to basically legitimize his cause. and you're saying that it is right. that's what it was in people, as we mentioned, like html, bank, video, minister of public security efforts. and those smart judgments responded saying that, you know, we have the front of the gloves off. that's how, what proportionality, we basically have to go crazy. in the words has been real,

but again, these pottery maniacs have been saying the same thing for years. they just trying to catch it on his latest opportunity that there's very little evidence that is ro, could actually do the damage to arouse nuclear program with a kinetic attack. the people that jump, bolton arguing, and we've talked about cyber attacks, that was the stokes neck virus, which was allegedly crazy bodies readings. and americans which set the reading a nuclear program at least as far as the kinetic strike would have done. it arrives nuclear program is not like the rocky nuclear program with assuming nuclear program, which is rel disabled. we want to position strongly. it is a deeply deep undergrad. it is dispersed throughout the country. these play think these talk is a very hard and they are well protected. and so one is where you strike couldn't do the job. is role might be able to take the of a nuclear program back a few years. but then that would be another game changer that would basically set

the ball higher for the rating and retaliation against israel. so he's right, and these have to ask themselves, is the price really worth it? would they be able to get enough out of it by sending you a nuclear program, but by few years i would argue that they wouldn't akiva of course. well, all of this is going on in the last few days of the war and gaza continues. no one died in israel from this attack, but over a 100 causes were killed in this period by a, by israel. what does this mean? do you think for the war on garza, it actually, um is uh, is uh, looking at uh, 3 frontiers now plus the wrong it's, god zillow is ever known. the west bank, what the status are being doing that in the last few days, taking advantage of uh, the uh, confrontation in the other frontiers. so here's what it has to do. and united

states is looking very deeply into those warranties and probably not safely. the proxies mainly the face by that is causing much more damage to, as well. uh, not only militarily, diplomatically, economically, in the last 6 months. then you're wanting to actually what happened saturday. true, did you run is that to us? i'm not real stands, they couldn't do much, no damage, and they probably took into consideration the is riley, the possibility that is where the where to install the 8. and i fully agree with was roberts, that an attack on the nuclear facilities in the wrong is completely crazy. i don't think it's an attorney. oh, yeah. well he wasn't. this was part of his division,

but he knows that president biden was never supported, even the american congress is not good to go into a region of war. okay, and let me, let me bring in randa, just one more time on, on, on gone. so what do you think this means for the conflict in gaza? does it in some ways help israel that international attention is now moved. okay, to say this, the same country involved, but move to a to a different issue. i don't think so. i think i think the damage that is what it has done say stipulation over the last 6 months. so the way it conducted the warden has is, is somehow, you know, it's not, it's permanent and, and, and as long as the war, but as a continues and, and that is mount fields that there is some kind of a trade that, that, that has to be negotiated, that is a fee it up in the united states, especially among the communities that are american,

that in return for nothing. yeah, we're showing good a strain by enough to tell you today by then is going to basically say it gives his okay to and i hope that ation which would be a disaster. so no, i don't think that i think the what, what needs to happen in has that is what needs, what, what the americans and the, by that decision they've been pushing, they need a ceasefire and they need the ton of hostages. and hopefully that's really the ground for improvement and ceasefire. so this is not going to change by what's happened on sunday. thank you very much. rhonda, thank you to all august today. run this name robert guys to pin falls under kiva elder. remember, you can always watch this and all of our programs on demand whenever you want to on our mobile app or on the website which is 0. don't. com would always like to hear from you to go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story, or next look for at a inside story from james bay's. i'll be back in this seat very soon,

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