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a humanitarian crisis. a civil war drags on with no end in sight. the un say 25000000 people off the population need urgent assistance. thousands of dad and 1000000 small have been forced from that homes. diplomacy has sold in a group space major challenge is getting to those in need. so is there a pause to ending this conflict and can anything be done to ease the suffering of the people of saddam will go to our power in a moment. but 1st, this report from sentence on done is on the brink of famine. 18000000 people are struggling to get enough to eat with children, especially at risk. when i don't know how that you see, i guess that we suffer from many things here. the most important is children down of children are suffering. they need milk diapers, they need shelter once. the civil war is killed, more than 30000 people around 8000000 pep and forced from their homes. and much of

saddam's infrastructure lies in ruins. for the past 12 months, the army has been battling the rapids support forces, power, military group for control. the country. neither side is close to winning an international efforts to end. the conflict have failed. the u inspector general is called for you push for peace. this is more than the conflict between 2 wanting, but this is a water being waged on this and these people is the war on the many thousands of civilians that'd be killed and tens of thousands made for life as diplomacy, stalls the focus turns to aid international donors recently placed $2000000000.00, but much more as needed and getting vital supplies of those in need is dangerous. it is very clear that the warring policies on, nor prospecting, international humanitarian, little a lot of what we're seeing as we speak all war crimes fail deliberately preventing

to monetary and access the a targeting humanitarian actors, medical professionals, medical facilities, looting, pillaging tea, medical and to monetary and supplies, with no clear path to peace, it appears the conflict could drag on indefinitely with no end in sight. it student needs civilians who will continue to suffer. finsen bonnen al jazeera for inside story. the, well, we're bringing you the knowledge of sit down today with our guests. contributors in kampala, uganda ha, a kind of is a suit in these pro democracy and feminist activist who's worked across the whole one of africa for more than 20 years. she's the regional director of the strategic initiative for women in the whole and of africa. network insta don, will not revealing his exact location for security reasons. we have duncan with dell of the legion refugee council. he's worked as

a humanitarian and doubtful since 2011. thank you both for joining me today to discuss the situation. let me start with you how. how bad would you say things are and sit down it's extremely bad. it's devastating. um, you know, as you know, by evans have done have conversations was many humanitarian and you and your guys ation. this is the, was human to get in and human rights crisis that's happened in africa. you know, um, over the past few decades, extremely devastating. was millions of people in an off forced to leave their homes, then really is expose the atrocities and violence that it doesn't stop. and do you know, according to unicef, we have over 20000000 children things below the age of 18 that they

are not accessing it to patients. 70 percent of the house facilities in the country are not functioning and was associate social services. public's facilities. and there being areas that are still under the control of so down on parts is, are in a very nice little ones share, you know, public facilities and social service facilities and about assess, consult areas are completely caught our lives them of function. how do we know the true desks total i've been looking through trying to find estimates and you know, we don't do we it's very difficult to exactly, you know, the, to the store. you know, for example, you know, what, we have had a tentative need that being read just like invoice the for,

you know, that this probably could be easily between 10 to 15. so then the point across, so then the numbers are speaking about, you know, uh between 15 to 20000 people. um, you know, because the truth of the matter that on daily basis, the number keeps accumulating. so i would say tentatively, you know, uh, being, you know, trying to follow up with this situation and working on just situations. you know, for the past 12 months, i would say easily, they wouldn't be around 60, so these people have lost their lives upset. so the new civilians have lost their lives. thingies. i'd be brutally paying off. i trust such as that's happening. done cuz we had mentioned that request stuff full. that's an area that you have worked in. and you and investigators say they believe that could be in as many as 15000

people killed in one massacre in janina. that's also a place you being to can you tell us what you know about that particular event? and i think i will not talking about particular events, but what i will say is, every one that we encounter and i work in west off for and janina have lost loved ones. in this conflict, friends and families have been killed and in very brutal fashions, and everybody has been traumatized by the killings that have happened here. the like was said, it's very difficult to get estimations on the exact numbers we are. we're facing that for the challenges as limited network to communicate. many, many people have been killed and buried in mass graves, so they're getting any accurate figure on the, the numbers killed is a,

has been very, very difficult. but that's difficult for closure as well. for those who are grieving many, many people whose has had family and friends going missing likely counts one get the closure that they deserve. because of this conflict. ok, let's just pause for a moment for a little bit of context of how we got to this point. that will pottage history 5 years ago that will mass protest against the long time need to old last year. he was out sit off to more than 3 decades in power, especially. it was replaced by civilian government, but that didn't last long. 2 and a half years ago the ministry wants to get and seize power. general abdul fata alba han took control. but one year ago there was a split in the on forces. mohammed hummed on douglas, also knows known as had met. he tried to seize power, his power, military group, the rapids, support forces. i've been fighting the army ever since. how the would you describe

this as a civil war? or is it just a war between 2 men? i think it's beyond the war between too many. um, i think it's a war advantage. so then these people i saw are again a civilian center going to swimming and chose ranks all. but this has been used as a weapon of 4 seats everett of 15. and that's what is happening until now. the, from the month of the dispute between sit on our foss, who's under a big support bar says, is manifests in a low boston massive a throw. se that's been happening again is again the civilians. um and so it's so it's, it's an extremely devastating situation because there is a knock off your responsibility and care about the situation off. so then these people about the situation of cbs across the country and up.

so it's very difficult, you know, to reduce what's happening is so down into our award between 2. but it is, you know, this is way beyond that, considering the level of trust that this the all happening. duncan, you're dealing with olden re suit and these people every single day. how would you say the situation has evolved over this year? um, what i, what i would say is that through this war the, the, the biggest victims are on the civilian populations, especially in the peripheries of dial 4. and so i'm calling to find those areas of high conflict. um, these people have, have gone through a year of conflict um mostly in silence without international recognition or awareness. um they have gone through losses. and now we are looking into

assignment so that those that were did not survive. the conflict are also going into levels of, of the stop ation across the dock voice. so i would one say things are getting better, but they're not. things are deteriorating quickly. and the people on the ground to the ones that are suffering from this war. how about looking at this as i've been trying to read as much as i can from a fall and obviously watching out as there is coverage of this. it seems like there was huge battles in the capital which was laid waste. then by the end of last year, the rapids support forces seemed i think, to have the all hands, they seem to be making gains and taking significant ground. but then since the beginning of this year is, am i right in thinking things have changed again, a very significant change. you know,

that happened on the ground. and you know, we understand that saddam armed forces are taking control off. uh, you know, like parts of on demand part of the, of the national make capital. uh, but beyond that, um, the situation remains the same. um, actually, um, the situation in jersey are now, you know, one of the most popular street join is so then i would just go see the bread basket of the country. it's getting deteriorating every day. cyrus, if are moving one village to the other building on destroying farming communities. that's where the park historically they have not been part of any conflict. this is a very peaceful regions. this is the region the provide the 3 fields to ww

subsidies. you know from the, for, from court to find from different parts of the country and its, uh, its city jones that fit the country. and this is one of the primary reasons why suzanne is very quickly sliding into assignments. so um, you know, they destructions off of you know, of, of communities is ongoing. um also um in the store. uh, they have been numerous at the top on the villages and uh with certain office 5 here by the big support forces. there is also numerous villages on farming communities, and so i was clicked to find the pest equally being under attack. and so it was also only communities that has been feeding themselves underlying, you know, on, on, was themselves primarily, or i know, you know, they have been subjected to noting and telling a federal rising and,

and ultimately becoming displays. so it's, it's actually getting worse in my view, the situation and how the, one of the facts are, of course, in all of this is, and we, we have to work with the reports. we have of this is foreign involvement on both sides. tell me what you know about that because the rapid support forces. there are allegations that the united arab emirates has been closely involved in supporting them obligations that have been supported by, by reports to the united nations. now in a reports on the other side, the radian drones and now being used by the suited name that ensued nissan forces. there are other players, i mean the why can a group, the russian, why can a great, apparently of the, there's even talks of ukrainian forces on, on the other side and lots of other players. how worried all you about all of these other regional and international actors getting involved? a 6 dream new. i mean, an extremely frightening that so then it turns into

a lot of a positive fail between various blow but under the june and actors mean the affinity issues between the big support forces and the u. a is a, is known, is done, the expulsion of food and natural resources, particularly called, you know, it's something that, you know, it's evidence that, you know, it's the ways one of the biggest markets having said that, you know, uh, so gone off for assist as well prior to this war has been equally involved in this the company in a while it thought i vision of the news use a young man or fraud that communities across so that i post either or so to be boxed up this property. and, you know, suzanne has allowed it, you know, it's country and it's young people to be utilize as fuel floors in different parts

of dairy june and to be to court date and where you know, um, pretty cool thing. i'm really thought isaiah shows becoming a source of income. you know, um, so that's also another challenging elements and to varies of various on file reports. and i think, you know, if we are talking about, you know, a serious political process that we would send in to this upfront the, we need us to be serious about accepting pressure on actors who are fueling this war was causing this bloodshed that was causing this killing and, and, and, you know, and destruction how the, i've been reading some of the human rights reports by human rights organization. i'm by the us human rights office. and they are quite a pulling,

particularly the volunteers against women and girls on this particular war. you know, using women, but this has been sent from in it from day one of my organizations have documented so afraid of sexual violence case is on the evidence 15 women has been primarily events and sexually assaulted by the big support forces throughout the past 12 months. but this is most new that a big support forces and they farm are affiliated melisha to them, the ginger read militia and the for has been committing crimes to going to civil is so sexual violence for the past 20 years. you know, menu. so, so that is politician from the international community has decided to, you know,

following the environmental pressure here, not to look into this, you know, so whatever is happening at the moment in, across to done, you know, and this magic comes in of my sexual violence. you know, it has, it's sort of the level of impunity, lots of phones to causes, you know, ignore my lies, of sexual violence against women not to go. i know, i would say it's opposed and it's hard to take, you know, the scale of sexual violence. that's happening, it's um, you know, it's, in my view, there is definitely a footprints of genocide because of sexual violence. you know, is also a identify, particularly my sexual was and most of the cases that were documented they were damaged. if this is, i'm a diagram, it means that this is not a i know, but tennis date. great. this is the well done. so, you know,

structured systemic bible and that's managed, you know, to use again a civilian to terrorize civilians to lead them to leave their halls and leave their villages and cities and towns and to brick them. and unfortunately, this is what has been happening across so that you know women where they have in front of their parents, you know, mother squared wrapped in front of their children's photographs where they have in front of that far as ours, you know, sexual disabilities, quite prevalent and get all sudden young women what i'll talk to and get to way of for days, men and women, they have taken away their lives. and this is happening again is lack of protection, complete lack of protection, lack of access to health services,

or any support. so it is only just people society, only the front line wire cars, you know, being the emergency rooms, all grocer, what's women? organization, the one where left to heart of the disorder and fix situation, which is beyond our capacity to well, this week that has been a humanitarian. don't a conference taking place in paris. duncan, before this conference, global donors before this, we could give them just a $155000000.00. that's just 6 percent of what was needed. i read an interesting comment by the end, jo. save the children that made the comparison, the amount of money raised until this week was less than the 5th. the most have been placed in 2 days to rebuild one of the landmark buildings in the city where the humanitarian during the conference was taking place, noted on the street, cathedral trickles. but down in 2019. yes, that's a wonderful building,

but we're talking about a country of nearly 50000000 people. well at this conference now, we believe they pledged, of course they haven't come up and written the checks yet, but they pledged $2000000000.00. that's now when they have what's needed solicit that's exactly right. um, and i think it's wonderful that 1000000000 has been pledged, but to remember that's only 50 percent of the needed amount to be able to respond into time for the incredible amount of needs on the graphs here. um and i wish we hadn't had to wait to the to the year anniversary of this awful conflict before holding the event for, for the governments to, to support the humanitarian efforts on the ground. and like you said, i think now the need is to translate those pledges to work on the ground to, to support the communities here because they can't wait any longer. we're being

right there. and agencies have been raising the wanting funds for the upcoming fireman since november of last year. and we, we don't have much time left. and so that to 1000000000 and really, really needs to translate not just to the easy to access areas, but also to those that are facing, facing tremendous number of impediments to be able to access like the doc for us. that like south dakota fun and cartoon. cartoon, which hasn't received any aid in 5 months, and the dipole is where recently the, the main border crossing for your monitoring aid. the approval is where replicated on your organization. the one you for duncan is one of the few organizations that still operating in, sued on many, many other organizations and not the fuel they're able to operate. i know to the quote from one of your colleagues own the hall from the g 20 countries. those of the wealthiest countries on us contributing even off to this,

this power as during the conference, what would be your message to those other countries around the world? not giving into things saying, well, it's not about business, i think will because these, the sedan crisis has suffered in silence. there hasn't been enough attention drawn to it the, the scale of the crisis it's ongoing here is unprecedented. it's the biggest displacement crisis in the world. and because it's blowing under the radar for so long, i think there is a need for more attention, more funding. and i would request for them to, to look at the, the reports that are being written on of the needs and the scale of the mile nutrition across the country. and i think that would be sufficient evidence to, to, to and to support this, this crisis here. hello. yes, we talk about now nutrition. we talk about famine looming and i was looking at the

official reports. there was this thing called the ip see the integrated feet foods security phase classification. and that seemed to really be able to get the data because of the security situation. and one of the things i was most shocked by. and duncan mentioned at the moment ago, saddam so boss country and there is famine definitely in the country, but there is time in, in the capital city. absolutely. do you know um on my own neighborhoods i gave me messages um that shows that things are unable to walk because of lack of food. um so um, you know, cartoon particularly cartoon city. it's a city thats occupied by there. a bit support for us is and they are the one who are in control of the food chain. it's a no, no the, the copy to, you know, of cartoon suits in particularly on an order. i'm parked almost for to my city. and,

and those are the 2 locations where the supporting is really beyond imaginations. and that takes me to the issue all um you know, the importance of having, you know, some sort of protection is strategy when it comes to providing you many terry and it support i think avoiding the conversation, it's about protection and not to look at that as a protection prices will only exactly bid this crisis and we make, we make it more difficult because how can we get in humanitarians come voice, internet stories and areas where compose sends us, you know, good. so many ted in scoots are subjected to be a role or tech and i think both aspects shoot to being held accountable because

this is a crime we're going to see all my energy and you know, violating the international law. and, you know, as far as being civilians in the sensitivity, as an innocent, jo, things it should be, it should be a crime. so i think being on the question of protections, the questions off, you know, serious, called see quite a says to this naturally consent and responsibilities and undermining of civilian supplies should be taken or so as well. so seriously done, couldn't you are dealing with people who don't have shelter, doesn't have food, perhaps we can get your perspective. now, as we come to the end of the discussion, the message you'd like to send to people watching this i, i completely agree with allows that this is a protection crisis and, and the amount of suffering that the populations and that's who died has gone through is really on speak about i visited it as a, as

a compound central doc for recently. so most of the majority of the population there where the campus attacked that everything from the shelters. i've been through to the roof, their door as their windows. and they are sleeping on the ground under the stars, and they're going to bed hungry. and i think it's important for the family and classification. however, it gets a misunderstanding that people have already started dying enough for us to, to stop ation. and myself reported in psalms, i'm time for a child dying every 2 hours from my own experience, visiting the different communities across the west and south job off or is, is the same that we're seeing already, people dying to, to stop ation. and so we really need to improve access and scale

funding to be able to, to support the community. so it's had, it doesn't deteriorate further. thank you very much to both of you all guess today . i'll, i'll cut it on duncan riddle. so done has been cool. difficult in conflict, but out is there a maintains a full time bureau in the country. you can find coverage, context and analysis at all website. alex's 0 dot com. we want to hear from you to find us on facebook. facebook dot com, forward slash ha, inside story. on x, just look for at a inside story for me, james page, and the whole thing here, please stay safe. i'll see you soon. bye bye for now. the how well does it rent? but who pays the price? when we came to clean the ship, new orleans more than $1200.00 poor black people lost their lives. not a single rich americans lost their lives. the real cost of the climate to emergency

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