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weekend specials, high temperatures in the traditional way. the time industry is public health warns that temperatures in many areas a set to exceed 40 degree celsius. unicef ones that high temperatures and humidity this month could put children at serious risk of heat related illnesses, including breathing problems and cardiovascular 2nd, vietnam motorbike taxi right. is like millions around the region, no choice but to work outdoors all day long. i do not know. i spend a lot of time out on the street and this hot weather is hurting the experts say the huge isn't likely to continue for weeks. jessica washington to 0. 2005 has destroyed one of the best known landmarks in the most capital. copenhagen of the cities 17th century stock exchange, known as the pulse, and was engulfed in flames. charlie angela husband story,
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one of copenhagen's most iconic landmarks collapsing in flames. the old stock exchange coat fy. early on tuesday, leaving the nation, devastated the dutch renee from style building was being renovated to restore it to its former glory. but it was the scaffolding and coverings the ultimately hung. put emergency services, allowing the fire to take hold and its celebrated spice to topple the. yeah, it's terrible. i can't put into words what the stock exchange means for us as a building and does a symbol for copenhagen. the full dragons are a part of our sky line, and a lot of people from copenhagen move past it every day. it's a full 100 year old cultural history that has been lost no time in copenhagen, but also in denmark. no longer an active stock exchange. the building is headquarters to the danish change that called us with no reports of injuries,
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but there was huge concern for its many priceless outlet. it's an open mondays america building on the 20. so it's very story building a lot of old valuables inside the building as well. most could on the stand and stuff, but some pauses by helped emergency crew rescue. some of the historic paintings and all to fax from the building. it was actually the most impressive hole in copenhagen leaving them either way again and the goal and elements all around. all the changes down this. we lost something big today. as the flames were seated, it became evident. much of the damage is to the front of the building, the rid damage being less severe. to eddie, to tell if this piece of data is history can be salvaged. charlie angela out to 0.
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the money is in the house. now the bottom line is next. i go to goes to the polls on april, the 21st to boot on new plans to combat criminal gang and fight open. eyes cried. can president daniel in limbo and convince ecuadorian to approve the constitutional performance to expand police and military power and follow the story one now to sierra high on steve clements and i have a question, isn't arms embargo and sanctions on israel? the only way to prevent a genocide in gaza, let's get to the bottom line. the after half a year of continuous bombing is really leaders say they are still far from stopping the war and gaza. israel's allies say it's a legitimate war because israel faces a threat from hamas and is acting in self defense. but international law experts
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say something different. they say nothing justifies what's been going on. whether it's israel's killing of so many innocent people, it's use of food as a weapon of war or the destination of all civilian life and gaza. no schools, no homes, and so no hospitals. so what can be done to stop the death and destruction, and what damage is being done to the credibility and legitimacy of international law itself. the longer this war goes on. today we're talking with francesca alban a say the un special rapids or on the situation of human rights in the palestinian territory occupied since 1967 francesca. thank you so much for joining us today. i am looking forward to this conversation. look, you were recently presenting your report at the un human rights council, and you stated that the threshold indicating the commission of the crime of genocide has been met. and you called for an arms embargo on israel. can you go into greater detail about what that threshold is? absolutely, and thanks for having me. i've been in the study what has happened in gaza into
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godsa for the past 5 months or by. and i didn't start this investigation thinking that i would conclude that israel has committed the crime of genocide or acts of genocide which eventually i couldn't do otherwise. he goes for civil. i've studied the ox that is really forces have committed mosque healing. mazda infliction of the physical and boldly harm where it extend prevention of this and the creation of pollution steps would lead to no other outcome then destruction. and this, in the english to be good to civil life in gossip. and i said, which of these goes to jude of genocide,
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the ox is supported by the tend to destroy the people in the in fluid part and a phone dissing 10. no telling me as it had already been documented by the sounds top because he got a team of the board, the international court of justice a couple of months ago. uh, through the order of statements that had been made of by people with commander for a nice strong political and meeting, but also emerging from the conduct of soldiers on the ground who had internalized. i've sold and acted upon those words. those orders of like the cool that they give a cation of why my lack. go on my leg, this is good, destroyed old young aleck, and including women and children, or their weakness and people in god. oh,
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we have to where i the key to everyone who's i'm us and eventually no, no one has seen this into this as soon as they're buried in the i actions old soldiers infantry on the ground. those who have provided and destroyed is that is that the gods ought to be getting for structure. um, but what is the most important finding in my board is what i call the you my daughter, him come a flash of is rose genocide. the logic, i argue that east has not the night will, the, will these, the community and get into my destruction because just just divided as equals alliance with the international you money tiny little. for example, the use of human shields. he's trying to has used the human issues as a, as a concept that can be expanded. i didn't see need to. so any one was that was that was considered a human shield. ringback this has been done by he's when previous worse in 2008 it
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doesn't work, doesn't put the 2020 to 2026. and it has being demonstrated either a fabrication or an excuse. and the son was not the bridge every time the, the national young dial know the concept of human. she's the use is to begin, let's face it. you know, as that into buying power. you kind of us a fucking go the deal every one and say, well do where you and shoes cuz it's also it's nearer, by the constant. now there you my design concept, which is the collateral down much international humanitarian law, is not the protective. the routine is just, you know, to try to prevent the most violent effects of war and protect those who are not involved in conflict, which is not spared any one in discovering to patients, right? anything else being could see the clock, the hutch, and also it actuation orders, safe zones warning. so all of these language has been used come flash,
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the genocide of the logic of the destruction that he set up. it has led to this page to francesca. what does it say about the state and the solvency of international law today? i am very impressed that you presented your report, that you've had both critics, particularly the us state department, but also those that have applauded your bravery at this moment. but do you believe that your findings will be act up, acted upon that you believe that the mechanisms within the united nations and within the institutions of international law are going to create real penalties for is real right now, or is this any road where we see any roshan of international law by the failure to act. there is no question that we also see a new version of the capacity or international level to be enforced. i often say something that true that international law without the this trend of political will
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is uh like that letter. but politics that, um, freedom says this from the needs indigo strains of international law can be criminal and this is within today. so there is an erosion and all international law says the multilateral system that does not allow me to, to have any, any realistic for cost because i do see the impact of my work and my record, let's look at this genocide, the anatomy of a genocide report. on a few days after i presented the report, the members of the human rights comes to pass the resolution. and i've come to be that inserted specific language that i address in iris and bar go on
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a 0. none of the less uh who's going to enforce that. it mean it just, it just import the top of those align with that. there's also being a resolution of the security council asking for assist fire there being several provision on measures single mended findings for national court of justice. and those for legion on measures are offering our binding on every watch. so the fact of the neglecting be sort a guardian or over 3 by unity mean to national law only weakens the system because creates precedents for, for others to really get what culpability do nations have that supply is real. with the weapons it's using slippery has a report out saying that basically over the last decade or so, germany so supplied almost 30 percent of israel's weapons. united states about 66
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percent of israel's weapons. what's your view about the the culpability of other parties in this um, well the says, oh, the complexities there because the genocide convention is very here in the beach. any form of the aiding and abetting of the conduct of states that might be committing genocide to providing for weapons that likely to be used in the, in the car in to see that is the interest. so you can to genocide there might be seen as consistency to move and that it's key or that there is this race. there is . ready a i c, j, a telling state, excuse me, to they go measures uh possible steps to make sure that the general side is prevented me. those measures are no thinking, but it also steps to continue to view. will that kid assigned those boxes?
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are they getting? well, i think that you need to 80 today. i suppose this is all complete to be to be very, very real. i guess it makes me ask the question about how, how jaded we have become to these kinds of conflicts and to the moral questions involved. and you've been in the middle of a storm. but i'd be interested in your perspective on the rest of us that are watching this and what our responsibility is to better document and highlight these moral moments. not just when a celebrity ships, workers are killed, but everyone else that's killed and has been dying along the way. look, i mean the king of all the 7 age workers of the darkness, c, w. d surety and tragedy. there is no any crime. there's no question about this,
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but it's a somebody in fox, so all of the very complex intra gaited criminal, seen, would check with and describe otherwise. and then, and in general, sorry the in the men said we'd mother mean settings of methods or was there. so it's interesting that the fact of but as being international here, the bruce pension back on the unit and no one is safe things outside including you . money knowing workers are all there. 190 you mind. i am workers with you guys off in the past 6 months alone, 175 of them are you and stuff. members to and the pumps, and then there are no many foreigners there us created this sort of anybody ever seen any visitor odyssey yet, but they're kind of stands academics, lawyers, human rights defenders. jordan, i resigned to $13000.00 and change it. i mean,
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it's the, it's so blue telling simone straws that i, i really, i mean, i probably have given the 100 interviews by now in the studio every time i've, i see how many children have died in the scar need something it's, i need the brakes because the normal should, oh, we don't get the we mean some of us don't get used to these, but i do recognize this one's gonna be mobile is i'm up with 6 a, sorry, this is because we are, we have 3 minutes to time and it doesn't match us, which speaks of our humanity because, you know, i mean, i've also been said it's just a moment where i knew i should either way under the big, over the pre the legend, their own comfort so that someone else doesn't have to renounce it all. and we are still, we are still there. and with this we'd be spy, it's essential size itself. so if you're
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a real expert on genocide and have studied other genocides as we know if you report boss in the, in the 1990 is the wrong thing. yeah. in myanmar i'm reminded that 30 years ago about 30 years ago, the rwanda genocide against truancies took place. and when you go, when i've looked into the rwanda genocide, i was surprised that the systematic planning that had previously occurred before that date on april 7th. when that started, and then i was disturbed greatly by the slowness of global reaction, a bureaucratic reaction. and even if the united nations with united nations had been been warned and told in advance of what was happening, un gave instructions not to do anything. i'm interested in that element of how this particular act in is real, gaza compares to those it does indeed does snow in the sense that in many respect i've learned it through the past mom.
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so, so digging into a genocidal or a genocide related nature of that genocide is never come. so sunny that you never it's so it's an insult to now it's a process. so it's not just the act of communities, the act of getting the need to destroy a population, and they're, we're riding on the walls so to speak in the case. so the relationship between each running the policy to disrespect probably it's not different for delivery. we'll see you on a nation, the rule that as an for me to the political spear and then the kind did all that the media as lead to is significant in for training or given narrative. but to hear the districts. ringback i mean this genocide us the legal 0 . so i think that's obviously said is the 1st that is documented by the seats
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and she asked it didn't be all the time. this is quite unique. so there was not the month delay. ready between the occurrence of a general aside in the and the act of the realization of each of the level of public opinion. so it's yes. what do you said? it's sure that you, when we're unable to prevent the genocide in rwanda, there you, when we are unable to prevent the germans, i pretty much anywhere including the in the, in myanmar ending uh, was there 0 be know, meeting all be have another cases but not, not this one for sure. and what is shocking is that in dispatch, with your case, that i've seen that there's been the situation of is re these political rectory. justification of the word is essential, subsidized, represented by the bodies being, is the being. the fact that this was the time to send music, i thought, well,
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i mean the, sometimes you something that you sent a message, but they don't think that the hatred, the ma, my, have a few were the effects it is is the radius of mediates, is generated by up to some it is, there is no evidence will be rather there is evidence of the country that they have reacted against israel as little to buying power and as an upper side state, which doesn't justify the crimes of course, but understands the call of hips understandable the and so, and there is be also in the role of western media in sort of sizing the language and still keep on doing that with the, the, the 1000 policy and 270000. missing probably are then under the rubble just you know, took the people talking, oh find main, moving on god. so when this is a man made starvation, it's intentional because the and so every become faster fee as a,
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as in sort of and those are in, in god's off and there is not enough integrity and more cool world storage. so the nonsense to the state department? yeah. states department smoothman. matthew miller kind of attacked you and said, united states did not support your appointment, said that you characterize some of your comments as an anti semitic. in this, i've been trying to sort of navigate what is a more constructive stance and engagement strategy for the united states and this then what we've been seeing and what do you do given the kind of statements that we heard from matt miller about your work? yep, i found, i found the us spokespersons phone minutes about me. so obviously predictable for someone who doesn't have arguments and even these,
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you know, if the body language was selling, i don't know what to say, so let me blame her because it's super convenience. this is our read this and so, i mean, he's been driving, he's been completely lambasted in social media. he's received the letters in the request or for resignation by many years, including authority off, or that the reading to maxwell center scholars. and so, you know, it speaks for itself and is the usual the usual read 3 of throwing delegations of anti semitism as anyone there's 3 designs. these are a rock is do i have the time to engage with this? find all the behavior? no, i don't. at the same time, at the same time, the fact that he asked for my, for my us, of the show, by the way, it will be, shall go to them. it was providing with food stamps, probably going to be found on police. it's not trusted. the crimes you know,
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to know, who knows? but the fact that such a statement comes from my us will be show, is this packaging because he has no idea of depression? clearly he has no idea of the pressure that this monday is on there also because of the lies for billed by people like he and um and i have no means really no means to make sure that every everything is controlled because what can i, what can i do to protect myself, the number of steps, the number of a taxi b c has increased. how do i navigate what the city is from? what is no. did you take one insane person to activate that? make any sense of defense whiskers, of people from an a central grants that might be identified in me. you see what i mean? right? so well, let me ask you. finally,
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one of the other things we saw was after concerned that a few employees had been complicit with from us in on rush and, and the united states, and many other nation suspended support in russia. and for those who don't know and route has this incredibly large footprint in social services throughout palestine and in other parts of the region as well as supporting refugees in, in jordan and syria, etc. and i'm interested in whether the failure of the united states in germany, in particular, to reverse their views on your own. right. which is, which is i look at, it's gotta be a vital part of like that, that the next palestine, whatever it is, how you see that at the moment, many of the european nations that originally joined, that boy caught, have sense reversed themselves. and i'm interested in from an, again, an international law perspective. is there some complicity or some crime in not
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supporting the you and institution inactivity that delivers most aids sustenance, medical supplies, schooling, etc, you name it within palestine. hm. yeah, i think there is, uh, there is margin to investigate because the city of sold the responsibility of these rel, in trying to destroy henri, which is the only agency, was the capacity to the lever. a, you know, sort of organized manner. in today i succeeded population garza, the reason why the w a c k was very, very strong to see is one of the effects of ease us continuous attack on a box on the on on law which has to be non p 5. the guy member states was your responsibility suspended their funding of ages of the
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the, their funding to the agency on the basis of allegations from the states has a track record of lies after nice of the nice. but even if the indignation square and law had already terminated, do stuff, members against do gross is just for the big additional fee agency. but what was the responsibility of the agency? why she would have the agency, or why should have the agency responded, all the ok. so all some individuals, where was the count? how did you next? so it was, it was completely nonsense ago, i need to respond to people the more as this decision to suspend from the to i was thinking today after the international court of justice and the issue that really 9 distribution on measures asking for on fit 30 my and are you an age which
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today would only be delivered by on russell? yes, of course. there were some wonderful pieces. well, this and this has been a sobering conversation, but we'll have to leave it there. francesca l been a z u n. special wrap. our tour on the situation of human rights in the palestinian territory occupied since 1967. thank you for sharing your thoughts with us today. thank you. so what's the bottom line? i need to admit that when it comes to the gaza strip, the bottom line is increasingly just difficult to see. on the surface, israel seems willing to continue this war and has enough support to brush off calls for a cease fire. the destruction of massive amounts of causes, educational institutions. it's health care system. it's private businesses, culture and residential life. just don't align with the stated objective of just going after hom, us under us pressure that finally seem to click in israel is letting in more a trucks. but it's clearly not doing so because the international court of justice
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warrant that it shouldn't do so. and shouldn't do so immediately, back in january. none of the major factors that have led to the killing of 33000 palestinians, a massive proportion of whom are innocent children, women and men are changed. there are no red lines, and morality isn't a factor. the bottom line is that there is no bottom line until israel's onslaught ends. maybe then a reckoning will begin. and that sadly is the bottom line. the on accounting, the costs will oil prices keep rising and how will that affect the global fight against inflation? symbolic way, it's launched a new power and see in a bit to end its financial turmoil and hit by boy coats mcdonalds is now buying back o. it says really restaurant counting the cost on al jazeera. so how is your vacation in this? it shows the
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creation of the humanitarian crisis is a tactic we do not is it was a policy that we have the was from us, particularly the city upfront on out is there these are the must rockies on the drum is. they used to march through the old city before dawn box with an increase is really military precedence. it's too dangerous. as daylight arrives at austin begins instead of traditional decorations, the streets of pals, class cods, images of young palestinians killed by his right. the forces is not just a lot of decorations, usually during ramadan, thousands of policies and tourists will or is the city often defies the seasonal suite. use of the law on the street right now that it's easy to move around to see if the difference in this war and going to change the situation in that list.
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we have 70 percent more business people. here's type of for the month is even more significant this year. a foster emphasize with those hungry and suffering in casa, the dozens of people are killed across calls or including childrens as he is really minutes. he targets the north and south of the strip the buck. so robin, you want to hubs. they were like, well, headquarters here in the hall also coming up a has block. amanda has been killed and lives ready dried attack in southern lebanon. the waiting game continues as well as will competent meets again a how to respond to it runs a tax on site today and.

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