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we don't simply focus on the politics of the conflict, is the human suffering that we look forward to us. we brave bullets and bombs, and we always include the views from all sides. the sammy's i down with a look at the headlines here, and i'll just say right now, iran says it's a defense systems of shot down 3. drones has pensions run high with israel. then deceptions happen near the central city of us for han re, new media, se a nuclear assigned to mid 3 bass and of so they have not being damaged. american media, citing us officials are holding the walls and is ready the attack. these right minute treat itself or they start commenting those that javante has more from, from according to the head of ron's army, major general abdur rahim loose,
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ivy erodes air defense system, were activated over the skies s on province early on friday morning. they did manage to down 3 small unknown objects and the head of the army and said that's no damage has been sustained to any military facilities in that area. we do know that there is a military air base in that area just outside of s, phone city. but according to officials, nothing has been damaged. and there is an investigation that is underway to determine where these drones were launched from and who was behind the attack. the international atomic energy agency is said that there is no damage sustained to any of the countries. 6 nuclear facilities and the head of the agency, a russell grossi has urged restraints and highlighted the fact that a nuclear facilities should not be part of any military conflict. there is
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a sense that things are still very tense, but whether or not this is the final or response by israel is unclear. what is clear is that this attack has been successfully withheld by iran and its forces for the time being whether or not anything else will happen in the coming hours or days remains to be seen. for now, there doesn't seem to be any appetite here to further escalate the situation between iran and israel. door such a vari, ultra 0 tower on speaking at the g 7 meeting us secretary of state and to be blinking said the us play know role in the right. but he said the wrong must be held accountable for it. strike on this. well, we're committed to his real security. we're also committed to de escalate to trying to bring this tension to a to a close. so you saw as well, or you'll see soon in the g 7 statement of
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a commitment to hold or on to account to account for its destabilizing activities, holding into account by degrading its missile and drone capabilities. and yesterday, the united states announced additional sanctions on the wrong target, and you are the programs still industry companies that are associated with the i already see the ministry of defense and its armed forces, logistics. at least 4 people have been killed. west of garza city officer as well as mid fi bottom. the family home in the north of gaza is ready for his child by lia and bates law here. although the tanks have been taking place, east of it off in the south in the occupied westbank is ready forces destroyed homes, shops and facilities, doing a raid which lasted more than 10 hours. is there any minute 3 vehicles was sent into the nor shims refugee camp, where bulldozers we used to rec buildings and roads united states as
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veto to drop the resolution that the united nations security council brought, which a court full palestine to become a full member states of the united nations 12 countries voted in favor and to abstain, including the u. k. speaking often using its veto, america's representative said washington supports a 2 state solution that full palestinian membership is not yet possible. ukraine says 9 people have been killed in russian strikes overnight. the attack happened in the central ukrainian city of the need for a residential building called fire was heavily damaged during the strikes. as the headlines, the news continues off to the people. this is agent orange. the
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the helicopters flying over the ridge spring something and they didn't even see the kids. the kids were all fishing or just playing by the river. and the kids were all choking and gasping that night. they were all really sick with diarrhea, they were having trouble breathing. we went down to the rivers that next day and that's when we found that ducklings did crayfish trout. we called the fire service and they said all, no, it's perfectly safe with a mixture of $240.00 and $2.00 for 5 t agent orange that was banned in vietnam. and nobody realized that the same chemicals were being used here is still going on.
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the agent orange was a tremendously disruptive comments of the tremendously destructive war in its own. unique way agent orange was the most destructive instance of chemical warfare in modern history. the gwinnett was still 5 years old or something. i read everything. it was still during the war and i read something about all the birds being killed like oil spills from ships being blown up. that's what i worried about during the war. it was all those birds come in like because it helped me and i started reading letters. i'm not sure
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who i sent them to or wanting someone to take care of those birds please. and maybe that was the beginning of my active business. but we moved here in 74. the kids were just part of this landscape. they were down along the river. they knew everything that lived down there. my kids loved it, i mean they were part of it. there were beavers and honors from the rivers and to of course, all the fish and herron's and ask res. so they were part of that. they loved it was nothing to worry about. the
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clear heading is one of the most insane things you could ever do. it's like strip mining a living organism with jaffar a stairs they weren't required to replant. and most of those clear cuts developed into huge brush fields then all of a sudden they were faced with this a lot. it says you can't flip that unless you replant within 3 years. so then they had to clear all the brush on these old clear cuts. so they could replant them. just all coincided with the end of the use of agent orange in vietnam. the
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michael newton from oregon state university was getting cert plus barrels of agent orange that the air force couldn't use anymore in vietnam. and was praising the use of these things and how they were going to transform forestry forever. and they started to just blanket these huge, clear cuts with a lot of major arms and drip. so we could smell it. and within a few days our garden was dead. the kids were all sick again and the dog got so sick he died. a carol has been just a tireless champion for uncovering truth factual, scientifically based information and trying to get that for decision making.
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these people were just literally at their wits end. and i remember sitting there thinking routes you somewhere, you gotta, you gotta help these people. they are literally, they know nobody's willing to help them. and i said, you've got to produce the experts that if you can produce the experts, i'll take your case on and we'll go to, we'll go to battle over the phone to be done by your machine. what was the most to be found on the corner of the last you
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at the moment the foster put that on my new new miss. you see the is only our company. yeah. suppose say you're not gonna sit on me. she won't do that. couldn't you do this? you to get enrolled because they're good enough for me to cut down a set or looks they show. they say it doesn't even know that brings it down then no
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us for some a 716 gig, you know, there's office. so that's obviously some of the home phone coverage in the sample. see best case id just offer you her. see something else your vincy sealed the. ready all the devil are going to look at the naples. no. the look on back back. almost a. it gives the jessica she stopped at maybe 5 or 5 pleasure stapleton and melody
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the the stage of history. i sent for the 1st meeting between president eisenhower and senator kennedy's since the like, when eisenhower passed over the national security apparatus to john kennedy. how scared we had to be that communism was on the march, and we had to stop it. wherever it was. kennedy loved the idea that american ingenuity, not just big, scary bombs, but different more surgical kinds of technologies could be used to defeat these insurgencies and agent orange or besides, in general, was part of that strategic view. the here with its own chemical company in midland michigan revolutionary chemical
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killers are being produced to help rid us of these costly this one of the newest. and most, most of the weapons in dallas arsenal of chemical warfare is to for dial. we'd killer to for d is a growth regulator type of we'd kill it. the action is busy a logical appearing to upset the plans. growth process is causing gradual but certain that the on the side govern government. in 1961 was a vociferous proponents of the use of her. besides in vietnam, the government was fighting a communist insurgency in the south. that was suffice. they felt that the insurgency was a major threat to their existence,
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the mrs. in october 1961 things hadn't really gotten started, yet. these are telexes. it's a message from bassett or noting, but basically just say present to him as begging people to spray crops. and there's so much doubt and confusion to washington about whether to do this or not the
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operation ranch and had multiple components to have a food denial component. but the most notorious was the use of agent orange to take away the forest cover. take away the insurgents. capability to hide and conduct gorilla ambush operations of the but once the overall war escalated to fully ation program, just sort of followed rather mindlessly. right behind the spring. millions of gallons of highly concentrated for besides indiscriminately over vast areas of forest. many times over is chemical warfare. it
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was highly destructive and it was massive. it was a weapon of mass destruction the branch and was for the herbicide to fully age, wrapped around by the air. and i was sent over to vietnam in may of 9071. to do the final historical right up another ranch and program the i made friends with the young army lieutenant over there. he changed me one afternoon and said, we have received orders from head board versus 1971. we are to drop the computer
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and erase it not downloaded and shipped to wash job chase that you said, if you want any of that information for your report, you're going to have to come with me to night and we'll go over to my fee headquarters and i'll get you into my office and we'll print them out and he turned on the machine and we printed out a stack like that of my report indicated that there were some real problems developing from people exposed to agent orange i finished my report and it was immediately flashed by secret and the government kept locked up or 35 years and denied didn't even exist in the federal government. basically federalized all to come up to some place to do
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nothing but produce an agent orange and have the chemicals for the warranty. these not and they knew that some more, they produce more money they with me. so they, in order to deliver as much as they could as quickly as they could. they violated that existing industry standards for the production of herbicides by using a process that was much shorter at higher temperatures, that was responsible for the presence of the docs and in the ultimate chemical substances that were creed. and they knew that it posted risk to individuals. they knew that impose the risk to the land and knew that it was, it contained a poison. and they knew that the, the effects to be the
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while i was preparing our report. i came across the documents that indicated confirmed that we authorized production of the asian, ours, which is a mixture to, for these 505242 for 5, g with a higher concentration of di auction as a contaminant. it's contravened, and the 2 for 5 t compound. as we knew, dioxide is an extremely potent crusher. genic mutagenic, meaning it causes chromosomes to mutate tiretta genic, affecting the fetus of a woman. very potent compound national bureau standards estimates on the half life for a dioxin model, if you 2000000000 years. that's why e p a regard to as equivalent to plutonium, both units toxicity and,
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and it's longevity, how long can persist? so it doesn't go away. it goes away politically, this is the 1st time that the scientist of ever created a molecule, this toxic and, and that they, they know that even, you know, just $1.00 to $2.00 parts per trillion can cause birth defects, mutations, cancer, the seeing a larger defects than we would've expected, we saw a number of congenital hearts and i think it was 1978
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delivered in and. and so if i like child, that's a child that doesn't have basically the normal brain. in my lifetime of delivering babies, i would not expect ever to see one. and about a year later, we delivered a 2nd and then select child. those odds were just astronomical, but a small practice like ours would have to and, and felt like children. it made me realize that there was something going on. the is growing up in greece means taking action. welcome to generation change a playful series. it seems to understand his talents, the idea of moving eyes in youth around the world. we need to a political party that we'll talk about our problems, know how come from a generation because 0 is being seen the groups, the size of the system. there's no for most painters of working class people. there
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while it hasn't commented speaking at the g 7 meeting us secretary of state anthony blinking said us play no role in the right. you said the wrong must be held accountable though for it strike on this route. were committed to his real security, were also committed to de escalate to trying to bring this attention to a to a close. so you saw as well, or you'll see soon in the g 7 statement, a commitment to hold around to account, to account for its the stabilizing activities. holding into account by the degrading it's missile and drone capabilities. and yesterday, the united states announced additional sanctions on the wrong targeting u. a. b programs, the steel industry companies that are associated with the arrow to see the ministry of defense and its armed forces, logistics. at least 4 people have been killed west of garza city after as well as
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mid very bottom. the family home in the north is ready for us is also shel devali, a and bates law here. other attacks have been taking place east of off in the south . i mean they occupied, westbank is ready for us, is destroyed, homes drops, and all the facilities doing a raid which last of moving 10 hours is there any minutes we vehicles was sent into the north show this refugee camp? what pull does is we use to rec, buildings in rows. a, b, a crime in the tree says it's down the long range russian bama for the 1st time. video footage shows the plane spiraling to the ground over russian territory. they to full of 20 to boma, can carry cruise missiles. russia says the plane crash due to m all function. that is a headlines they use continues of the people versus agent orange. rebecca, sophia
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the the, when we started the litigation, this became a real david and goliath back because we had to us the whole us attorney's office representing the federal government and the largest law firm in the state of oregon, representing i f. a which is a front group for the chemical manufacturers and for timber sprayers
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the fire service had been unwilling to do any kind of community health survey after the spring to see if anybody was in fact being on it was simply saying, our chemicals are in harmony anybody but it wasn't looking to see if they were hard and it was very stunning. you know that they would spray in area and within a month that miscarriage rate. and what they call spontaneous abortion rate. with sky rock, according to the hospital data, the between my husband and i and our nurse practitioner, we delivered between a 100 and a 150 children a year seeing a larger number of birth defects than we would have expected. we saw
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a number of congenital hearts and i think it was 1978. i delivered an animal to file a child. that's a child that doesn't have basically the normal brain. in my lifetime of delivering babies, i would not expect ever to see one. and about a year later, we delivered a 2nd and then select child. those odds were just astronomical, but a small practice like ours would have to and felt like children it made me realize that there was something going on. and the something that i was aware of was fraud, cast, spraying of or besides, at that point it was mainly to for the overall water supplies because we drink surface water that the coast,
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the kids were involved in the whole or beside battle they were helping write the newsletters and draw the pictures and help with signs. there's the poster that daphne made. she did that when she was about 11 a they were right in the thick of the we had like 5 minutes to come up with a name for this, for citizens against toxic sprays task and was in the most command of work. i guess i, i was on until basically katz was for him and started questioning it with, you know, filing
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a court action and then it suddenly got some attention. and there was a lot of pushback from the chemical companies and the timber companies. chemicals are being used as, as a means of achieving environmental goals. really the, the attack is not scientific. it's purely emotional. know the public does not understand and know we unfortunately haven't uh, successfully communicated to the public. this yet. take 245 p, for example, to 4 or 5 to use about his toxic has aspirin. uh it to the safety factor and the use of 245, t is 5 rated, and the safety factors use of aspirin. and as a public understanding that one saturday morning when my husband was making rounds at the hospital to phillips in suits,
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showed up at my front door and said they wanted to talk about the or the sides. and i said that was fine. my 2 children were running around at very happily playing they didn't really say where they were from i said, come on in, have a cup of coffee because i had had a number of reporters and other people show up. and when then when they said, you know, at all times where your children are and i realized that i didn't, i and i said it was time to end the interview because it was clearly a threat against me and my children and and it worked on top of van that had dark tinted windows on both sides suddenly showed up outside of carol. and steve's house,
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who were the leaders of the citizens against tax explain movement, say the the car was parked here, but they were walking up here or the other day or obviously thinking i wasn't home . they didn't really explain why they were here. which one, i realize the other guy was sneaking up there and talking to the kids when i got kind of angry. he was asking them all about what kinds of different creditors we had in the freezer. because we did, we saved a bunch of them hoping to get them analyzed, you know, to see what was in them. but the rear door flew open as it drove away and they could see that there were large video cameras in there. the phone company itself, their employees told us that our phones were being tapped. it was an obvious attempt to try to intimidate the folks who are bringing this litigation to try to
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reduce the herbicide areas. frank, well, we won a temporary injunction. what the judge in the caps case, thanks to all those scientists and studies that we were able to compile ruled was that hey, you've got to include in your environmental impact statement, the effects of these chemicals in vietnam. and that was a blow to the fire service because by then there were some really documented impact in vietnam. we strayed 20000000 gallons of that stuff over there. their water sewage are contaminated, their rice feels are contaminated, their wells are contaminated depending on who you want to believe. there's 4 or 500000 adults contaminated within half
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a 1000000 children. the ladies at the extra. yeah. as soon as you get the means, you'll do the demo of yes ma'am. i do for fun, for swan control. so it could be the
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there were negative feelings towards what we were doing. the propaganda put out by the chemical companies and the timber companies. that number one, there's nothing wrong with this phrase. and number 2, these people are just the lunatic fringe. they convince the loggers or some of them anyway, that they were gonna all be out of work as if they couldn't use that or besides, the house was on fire. carol came up the driveway house was totally in flame. patrick said he stopped her. that she grabbed the knife of his belt and started running up the hill and he just grabbed her and held her. and he felt sure that carol was going to try to take her own life that night.
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the band strong children were, were gone. the and we all crumbled, we all just couldn't believe it. the fire fighters said it was our son the i don't, and it's hard to talk about it. i just can't really they had done the absolute worst thing anybody could do to me and they couldn't do
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anymore. animal source still here. i think that's what kept me going and you know, it was what was left of my kids was what they loved. you know, oh boy, here you go. okay, so the big 130 years old. he's very intuitive. like if you're really upset about something he will come in just like leaning against you and be comforting you rudy duties. he wants to help you come on, feel better. i don't know. i rely on him. this was the garage. there was no floor here. and so we put a floor in, i just was living in this in this room. and i still am in a way it was. and in honor of my kids, i had to keep going. they, for this fight to,
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it wasn't just me. and i the only thing was to keep going for their sake. the newly released court documents to indicate that the company is which manufactured agent orange knew as far back as the 19 sixty's. the one of its ingredients known as 245 t,
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contain the toxic contaminant dioxide. the my father said he could hold man his hands like this. i was so small. i'm missing my right leg below the knee my fingers and i'm missing my eyes, big toe and my other toes are were web. but yeah, yeah. my story is not very much unlike many, many children in vietnam and other american children as well. so we share the same type of birth effects me as the none of the mom who would need the victim of the national. how should you know? i don't get any benefits from the government. they deny that the children's meal vietnam veterans perfected so i'm hoping with your lawsuit that things will change then it'll be, it'll stick this time.
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the case. it's frustrating the, these companies have been able to avoid accountability for what they've done. i think your case is incredibly important as sort of the last opportunity that we may have to hold these, these, these companies accountable for the, the wrong doing that. they knew they were engaged when they made this poisoned his product. the national forest here is no longer sprayed. and the reason is
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a series of lawsuits that began with the caps lawsuit. but how about all those other people? how well people write down the road that i have private timber land around them that's getting sprayed,
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the they're going to keep these chemicals on the market, no matter what. the only house is for the community right to move them into, keep insisting that we have the right to protect all of our communities from being poisoned. and maybe it's a pipe dream. but if these corporations have human rights according to the supreme court, well damn it, they should be subject to capital punishment just like an individual would be on the dish as i got the money just got because i yes, good. it is old. you also did policy do, or that means on it that long plaza and all the like.
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you've seen a demo golf on the survey to try as i said, my gosh, it did the yeah. in highest alexis so common bit tasa, the ideal scene, the most song. so keep the mid day as i'll see it another for say, allows you to type on the jo natasha with the people. those go to the image, not going to sample the phone with the, the to see . so the cost of the amount of both of the testing done to that. i showed you that, that for most of the company is to add to port of shape. we'll see the black
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down to the left side, domonique or me, if this the soonest, the me look on the, the, you see the who this may be on the sample. so you can see what was the, me fucked. default a pleasure. all harsh is going to be okay with the law says for the defense the see to see that it is or is it in the ceiling list over the last all huh. little time. with the best receipts of all the phone to the,
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the, we call ourselves the document junkies. documents accumulated over 40 years of freedom of information actions that i did, including several lawsuits to try to get documents out of the ca. pcb law suits the agent orange law suits trying to stop the government spraying out here and then i had a bunch of stuff from dow chemical that they hoped i'd never get i couldn't afford to store them anywhere. and that's when peter ron stackable, it's
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a canadian journalist, drummed up some funding to get them off scanned, and that was how the poison papers that we must have scanned was close to $200000.00 pages. he could upload them as they were scanned. 10 hours a day, non stop a lot of the documents involved the fraudulent testing of chemical products. so lawyers, now in reading these lawsuits are being able to find that information i hope they'll make trouble. i mean that's the whole goal is to make them available to anybody that needs them. the
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interesting document. so we look at down is i think someone's interest soon just be populate it. don't want to have to be an interest in to the to accommodate googe and i thought and anything the vocabulary account of the i'll just say of that is it you have only give you a seat. i thought i'd never see. got so many balance. i'll leave it on a nice while, they don't sell it after the is it can reach your needs as soon as you get home, i'm sure it is. that's the only thing styles that even demo i'm supposed to pony. the simple fact her mammy, danielle foster c book the send. yeah. yeah. ok. just this to so i said the navy team, the new see no set of monday and i'm millie victim. i mean, i can see is the sack in the, in the hong kong default,
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the cycle season, the 75. so you can say can that be receiving sufficient added as a whole function, meth. nice need immediate. that means you, mr. can see they just set the width so as soon as you have shown w t s 3, so bad to be thought of the yes ma'am. is it possible to let
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the, let's start this further report off with some good news. great to have you along. so forth, mongolia is capital loan, but tar 19 degrees for you on saturday. that's almost kind of a for you should be for this point of the year. but there is what, whether dancing in to south korea and japan's q issue island that's around one. you'll see round to on sundays, so there is a threat of land slides sort of some really big storms of rep team from china is united rates of food. yeah. and providence but highest level alerts issue for these storms. and one down in one g. providence is dark, the blue and yellow, the more intense that renews. so part of what's going on is we're tapping into a lot of moisture of the south china sea to the middle east. we go,
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we're also tapping into moisture off the gulf of 8 in here. so there's going to produce some big storms for parts of him, and there's already been some flooding on the south coast there and we could see repeat over the weekend, but otherwise for the radium peninsula, the sun's out. so time of year where there was temperature a start to shoot up. so $37.00 degrees in quade and still raining in flood hit areas. if i've gotten this done and focused on between the 2 countries, where the 100 people have been killed in flooding their story of heat though, through india dark, the red, the hard, the temperature could cut at 41 degrees. and over the next 3 days, we're going to lock your temperature in there, spickle. the unique perspective. everything is political. you cannot stay out of politics and everything is a feminist issue. to on heard voices, we see our literacy destroying the ability to have
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