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vision stabilizes some i like the rogers eat off, it's not my body view and office on drugs and crime says that drug trafficking is soaring across the saw a region, and that's fueling conflict and instability incentive goals. police of sees that launches and drugs whole on a land route. i'll just there was nicholas hoc reports on his story from senegalese . capital dot com is after 3 years in a crowded prison cell in downtown to carr. this man, whom we're calling off made, has become a shadow of his former self. the syria national was arrested for drug trafficking, a charge he denies. he says he was burnt by his girlfriend, meaning she used him to transit drugs through spending go without his knowledge. the judge found him innocent and ordered his release, but he says that the traffic of cocaine from latin american has, she's from morocco, is on the rise. so me traffic hers are in jail about both of those are. there are so many nationalities in prisons, syrians, colombians, italians, french, moroccans,
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libyans, spaniards, all because of the international traffic of drugs. it's an extraordinarily well organized trade. on the most western point of africa facing the americas san diego has become a major transit point for drug traffickers. according to the u. n. and drug enforcement agencies. in 2023, at least 6 tons of cocaine was seized with the st value of $420000000.00. that's doubled the budget of synagogues ministry of education. the drugs were likely destined for europe memory. so we got the call center please. maybe have his dozens of both the 2nd, but there are so many more that go undetected. last monday customs officers discovered one ton of cocaine, hidden in the back of a truck on its way to neighboring molly, according to report from the un office on drugs and crimes, the drugs trade is funding arm groups linked to al qaeda and i so active in this how and fueling the conflict in order to process,
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how can they would need to be effects on the specs would be what we now see of this i got so, or you know, at tech stuff, you need to be to be able to go through. extensive parts of the territory, including throughout this i couldn't seem to also leave you on. uh, you know, this could represent 2 percent. it was rivers and 5 percent. you could re percent 1.5 percent, but it's a huge a volume of the lake out the illegal activity coming to this whole and also to the west africa. the elicit traffic of drugs has a human toll timing. jail has left ahmed, broken. he's in search of his former self. he says, he's just another casualty of what appears to be an unstoppable and blooming trade . nicholas hawk out as he wrecked the car. that's it for me, my m, and long as you can find much want a website out. is there a dot com? i'll cease the news out of it later on. the
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why have american evangelicals become this real strongest back? or is us president joe find the right to stand with this real with no red line? as long as us support continues? is there anything that can stop is real, solve on concept, from going on in? definitely a quizzical look at us politics. the bottom line, united states has long been a steadfast supporter of israel, but controlling criticism of president biden's handling of does it turn the tides and our fears of a wider war, shipping attention away from israel's continued assault on, the palestinian will ask the renown economist and director of columbia university center for sustainable development is weeks headliner. jeffrey sachs, the jeffrey sachs. thank you so much for joining us and upfront. great to be with you. on april, 13th, around launched more than $300.00 drones and missiles towards israel following
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a deadly is really attack on the iranian consulate in damascus. it's the 1st time iran has directly attacked israel, while israel's weighing how it's going to respond to around the attack and global leaders at the same time saying, hey, you need some restraint here. the us said that it wants to see these tensions deescalate and that it wouldn't join is really any military retaliation against your one question. for me is the us doing enough though to restrain israel? probably not at some level. i think israel will do something i it won't be helpful to anything. israel started this round of an escalation with the attack on the diplomatic compound in damascus. a pretty brazen i. i'd say more than pretty brazen, very brace and i rather illegal contrary to way at the geneva conventions on attacking diplomatic sites. a clear escalation. and i think clearly
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intended to pull the usaa into a war with ron, which is probably netanyahu's green. i don't think that's going to work. it's a terrible idea. terrible for israel. i is terrible for the united states and us have it. pretty unequivocal about that by the said, we're not getting pulled into a military right. and that yahoo a seems to think that he really wrong this, the us government and sometimes the wrong exactly sometimes and feels that way. so he doesn't pay bite. and i at the face value in that sense a he thinks he can manipulate things or force the hand of the united states, or get the us to come neatly behind the what is real says because after all of the us keep saying no red lines while you're in the cloud commitment and all the rest on, but it's been clear, this is not what the us should do and what it wants to do. but that yahoo was
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provoking, i do think again though there are some serious on certain things about what really happened with the rainy and attack. it seems more likely than not that there was some pretty bad news for israel in that several. i apparently hypersonic missiles got through and hit their targets. that's gotta be absolutely alarming for israel. so i think purely on a military calculation. this was not a good week for israel and also terms of the perception of israel pride october 7th . there was an idea that they were almost impenetrable, at least at home. and now the fact that from asked was able to sort of successfully breach the borders. the fact that, you know, we see things going on all around the globe that mix is real. look, we does that provoke israel to engage in more aggressive activity. i think it has deeply called into question the, the strategy and the tactics of this particular cabinet. this is
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a extremist nationalist, is rarely cabinet, the most extremist in history. it does believe in a greater israel, it does believe the permanent apartheid or worse ethnic cleansing, or what whatever is needed for israel to keep its control and to prevent the palestinian state. and what is happening is that fundamentally the world does not support that agenda. the world, even the united states, and i would say the american public is pretty a gas to what they've seen and even the political class and the u. s. which is absolutely good. typically a 100 percent behind israel is so shocked and not going down that line. so israel's so got itself into a terrible mass because of its extremism. doesn't know what to do, that yahoo is normal. i modus operandi is a when you are in
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a mass escalate. and uh that i think is still probably odds on to what they'll try to do. us as historically taking a very aggressive stance toward iran, including pulling out of the iran deal in 2014 for decades. even close economic sanctions on the multiple presence. with more announced after the attack over the weekend. the us as also allied with israel and air of countries like the u. a. e. jordan, saudi arabia, all against iran. has us policy in the middle east enabled the possibility of a wider war. well, i think the 1st point, the most decisive thing that's happened visa be run, is that a, ron uh, and the kingdom of saudi arabia of had a wrapper slot. they're going to be together. it seems in the brakes. i in this, in large grouping, although with saudi arabia it's not a 100 percent clear that that's the case. but definitely there has been
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a diplomatic reconciliation of sorts. israel's war in gaza, which has been so much more shocking and devastating than people i would have imagined. i have really pushed a the ron and the airbag world closer together not farther apart despite what israel hopes and what us strategy has been. so i don't think that the us and israel can maintain any kind of a coalition with the major error countries against iran at the, at this moment, israel was making that absolutely impossible because of the israel's extremism. that puts the us in the back foot. these of the china, for example, which has been diplomatically, extremely successful in the middle east. it was interesting in the un security
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council session after the rainy and attack, you also heard, or even from an american allies as close as korea some but words of caution against israel. i that you would not normally have heard. i korea depends on the middle east for its energy. it does not want this thing to explode. so i think at the core of this is a failed. is railey political strategy, not a failed us middle east policy over the decades. well, more fundamentally, absolutely, the u. s. has enabled a failed is regularly strategy a terrible one. so i do completely agree that i that the u. s. policy in the middle east is failing terribly. it's leading to wider war, even if the us wants to restrain that it's not restraining the why, the war. why?
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because at the crux of this conflict is an on the south political problem with israel and palestine that absolutely needs to be solved. and all of the anti rainy and dimensions have, but a very large source in the palestine is real conflict. after all, there is no intrinsic reason why iran would be the great the enemy of the united states, even with all the history, the west has a lot to apologize for to arrive and starting in 1953 with the over throw the democratic government and the installation of a police state after all. so there could have been a, were approach my between the us and iran. i've always wanted that. i talked to you, i should have signed the j c p a way and implemented it. and of course i that it was subverted by trump. i biden was weak as he has been in so many areas
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of not bringing that back to life by has been weak in allowing netanyahu to continue his extremist agenda. and here we are with massive failures building up, not just in the middle east, but we have crises all over the world. and i would say it's because u. s. foreign policy is out of date, outmoded and with weak leadership. you talked about this sort of enduring problem in the middle east, specifically in israel palestine. there's been a lot of renewed interest in israel palestine specifically around the so called to state solution. yes, the us, as always said they've supported the 2 state solution, whatever that might mean to them. and they have always articulated that as a kind of path way toward palestinian statehood. they want israel in palestine to negotiate directly in the, in this regard a, that's an a us position. you know, i'm not sure how buyable it possible that it, well, you know, my, my, my thought is a, okay, yeah,
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there's been negotiations now for decades. we're done with that phase. now we implemented the 2 state solution. it's me. it's been clear all the way back to the 6 day war. 1967. what the outcome has to be, which is a state of palestine on the pre war borders and the state of israel, and they're living side by side. they may not like each other. maybe there's a barrier between them. but there are 2 states, and this has been clear for 57 years and us established back on it for 2 reasons. one, it seems to be a growing sense in the global community and certainly among palestinian civil society. they've got some states which is actually not the only undesirable but non viable, right? because of settlement expansion because of the israel refusal to stand down on this claim of greater israel. all of it is ours. but really there's a one state reality that can only be repaired with a one state solution or a single secular democratic state. yeah,
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i think that right now there is an over whelming sentiment in the world to implement the 2 state solution which has been on the table and is in body. and in probably dozens of you when general assembly and security council resolutions over many, many decades on both sides of this divide, which is a terrible, brutal divide. there is a one state solution, of course, many in palestine say one state to palestinian the dougherty. and that's it, i, on these rarely side, we know this current government has for one state, i completely a in israel, dominated state by due was that practically speaking, these 2 sides do not get along. and there may be in future generation, some day they will get along. but for the moment the right answer is the one that has been embodied in resolution after resolution,
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but never enforced. and i agree were coming to the end of that road. the un security council is getting ready for a vote right on palestinian membership in the you when based on the 2 state solution. what does that mean? talk to me about what that means as a practical matter, perhaps, recognition. yeah, palestine is a state maybe that would be that would be phenomenal. yeah. would you still have mentioned yahoo? who's saying perhaps as a pretext? yes. would that post october 7th? we can, we can't even have a conversation about a 2 state solution, but a permanent doorbells solution has to include israel having security control over guys that and over the westbank. yeah. if that's the case, and is this all just for nothing? no, because i don't think that you know, with the final word and it's, i think the world community has the final word. and if we find, as i believe to be the case that there is an absolutely over whelming global sentiment. this war has to stop. israel has to stop killing the people of god. so
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the 2 sides do not have to trust each other. love each other, like each other even tolerate each other, but they have to co exist side by side without the killing. i think that this means it saying to me that yahoo and this extreme is government. if you can implement that, it's going to be a different one on word. but this is the will of the international community under the when charter. and that i believe this is why i mean, you enjoyed a very persuasive yes, but it's real. it depends entirely on the west backend to repudiate the un charter. so that's the point that i, that i just said, i want to drill down a little bit. it seems to me that it's far more important for the united states to assert its power then for the international community. israel says hate i, c j. we don't care. i have a friend. we don't care even conventions not so important, but a bite and makes that call and says, hey, no more money. i hate no more vetoes and i, i would put even more explicitly just no more bombs. but fair enough,
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you can't fight tomorrow without our new nations, which is literally the case. so i think that's right. the new west will not do that just on its own by saying, oh, it would be nice to have a 2 state solution. it will not do that. on the other hand, if the over whelming global majority says that's the right way. then the u. s. has a different choice. i was, i mean, for the last 2 decades hasn't the global community effectively spoken out against the settlement in the west bank effectively and said that funding for intro should be conditional upon human rights abuse is going away, but we still see the siege and guys, yes, the investigatory is that hasn't been unclear about this. no, i agree. it has not been unclear. and the u. s. has been temper rising, protecting israel and the lang up until now. now we have, i believe a genocide under way. i think it is absolutely
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a disaster and i think the world community is more alarmed and more shocked and more saying if we are anything as a world community, we have to implement what we've set an example. the vote on membership is a vote that should have happened 13 years ago. absolutely. because this was an application by the palestinian authority in 2011 for a membership. when you make that application, it goes to a in admissions committee, new members committee, which is constituted by the un security council. they did all the work. they said palestine qualifies to the west, blocked it, and then he was blocked. it's saying it's not quite right right now, not quite time, but do take observer status. that's pretty good and soon enough you'll be a member. now were 13 years later. there is
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a genocide underway in gaza. there is the risk of a wider war. it's true. you could say, well, mister sax wasn't all of this truth. 13 years ago, i would say yes, it was true 13 years ago. but 13 years later, the dangers to the home world are much greater. and the prevarication is of the united states are so much more evident as well. so to my mind, i want to give another push. okay, united states, you said back in 2011. what's gonna happen and quickly? we're farther and farther away because you have backed something that is against international law. you have cited repeatedly on the ground with israel, even though it's direct violation of the un security council resolutions. i want to push so that we actually lives like responsible grow helps. it's saying what we say we do, we have international law, we apply it, and i think this is
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a moment. if again it fails and fails, well, you are absolutely right. this will go down in history as a, a, a disaster and be, is he a long period of hypocrisy of shocking a dimension. and to see somebody all have to come up in the next generation with different answers. but right now we have an answer that is viable, workable, practicable. and the question is for the united states, are you going to apply what the whole world says is needed? and what the us itself says is needed? or are you going to continue to fake it? my basic argument to the west is it's no good for the west, but it's also no good for israel. israel's legitimacy is, by all of this, you go around the world as i do all the time. people are a gas that what is real is doing, and young people around the world are saying,
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what the heck is this? this is this, this, this kind of government has no legitimacy at all. and so is real, needs to change for its own survival. this my only view is that, that's an excellent question uh that you raise, you know, is it time for biting and maybe other us politicians to change course. i mean, there's a way that by the simply following the course of every presidential candidate as model, you stand with israel, there's no daylight. that's, there's nothing between between us. but now there's a generation of holders that are looking at this differently. since i would say since operates in cash, but certainly since protective age, people have said wait a minute, that's a lot of killing. that's why the death you're absolutely right. this is the 1st time that the american public has really focused on this in a very long time and what they're seeing, they don't like. and the politicians are shocked. yeah, good politicians don't like kind of hanging out where the public isn't yet,
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but they've been so trained a guy like by me this is decades never show any day like between the middle isn't the 1st rule. yeah. not a word. not a peep, and he's pretty much sticking to bad except for we hear the gossip of what he calls that yahoo, etc, etc. but at least we, i called those presently about on, on the public pronouncements it's, it's the old school now. if 5 is not old school, one is even is completely old school. but what shocking for them is it doesn't play . and it may play with some of the big donors, but it's not playing with the public. and they got of worried about the public. after all, at some point, what the public things matters in this country, especially in a november election. absolutely talk to me about the short term. we understand the kind of long term goals around statehood around kind of creating a kind of a global piece. but in the short term, people are dying and people are really starving. how do we get to
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a ceasefire right now? and the reason we don't have a ceasefire right now is actually to long term, strangely enough. there's no end point even to green. that's why they is real. won't even agreed to a permanent ceasefire. i it says may be the ceasefire for 3 weeks, or 6 weeks, a mouse as well. that just means they're going to come back and slaughter us 6 weeks from now. why doesn't israel agree to something longer? because then people ask, well, what is longer? and when israel says, well, we're in control? no, no, that can't be longer. that's, that's not an answer. so you have to have a point on the horizon where you're heading. that's why i want to clarify that by saying 2 state solution, palestine member of the united nations, we know where we're heading. there are a lot of details to work out and implementation, but we know where we're heading, so we're not arguing be about that anymore. it's,
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it's not what you care. what do you say? what smoke for it says what ben gives here. it says about 2 states, one state 3 states, great. or israel, that's done the world spoke. and we know where we're going. now we have to stop the fighting to my mind that will become absolutely directly more clear once that direction is settled. so i see it actually that it many times of evil. you want to start your hike up the mountain. yeah. and how, where we're heading. so you know what path you're going to follow once palestine is voted in, i hope this week i hope, really hope the united states does not block this again because it would block standing against the entire world or maybe political suicide for by that i think it would be and so i'm hoping they have enough sense, of course, these are just to recalibrate every, every day ever learned in politics. but they need to get this right then. okay,
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what's the point of the war anymore? because now we have palestine entering the un. by the way, the clause is as a peace loving nation, you have to accept the un charter. you enter as a peace loving nation. that actually means something. it means that all of the countries in the region are oriented towards israel security as well as the palestinian state security. so everybody has to take practical steps as soon as that happens, the saudis, you a caught tar egypt, jordan and israel and the united states, all the rest. ok, we have to stop the arms flows, we have to stop the killing. we have to start with the emergency services. so once again, we have a probably a 1000000 people on the brink of starvation right now. so there needs to be massive,
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massive infusions of the emergency food aid. of course, this could start immediately if there is a political framework. there is not going to be a political framework on a process in which it's surely not. this is really government, but i don't think any is really government in the near future is going to quote, negotiate this, but the world can say this is international law. this is how it's going to be. i stop your dreams of greater israel. we're moving to the 2 state solution to that point. i would ask you to pull out your crystal ball for a moment. if the global pressure mounts the way you're describing, do you see us is where relations change and you see us policy toward israel fundamentally shifting. fundamentally, it has to shift because it can't give a blank check. the current policy is israel. you tell us what you want, we stand with you, iron clad and ship the money your way. that's an impossible policy. all you do if
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you're a big power like the united states and you tell it another country that's dependent on you, you chose everything. all you do was invite the craziest kind of crazy is kind of extremism because they say we got the us. so we manipulate the u. s. b, b, things the wrong has been us. and did you know, as we said, he's got some evidence on his side. up until now, do you want us to put some clear markers on this? we have a policy, we don't want to divide with the rest of the world. we don't want it to be 2 countries, israel in the united states, against the other $191.00 countries. we have some basic standards based on the un charter. once israel here is that things will change, but that's a big change from now because the current policy is israel. you tell us what you need or what you want. we back you, if he's expect somebody to join in upfront,
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us. any anyone in particular, i say to all facing realities, government seems here to whittle down democracy because it's troubling. for you, it's very, very painful here. the story on talk to how does era, the, [000:00:00;00] the hello, i'm sorry, i minimize the, this is the news, our life from the coming up in the next 60 minutes. the at least 5 people are killed in the ok. wide westbank during violence between is riley forces and palestinian fighters were

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