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that's right, so that's it is really administers, have been moving with, which is the invasion of a rough off which is, is right now the noise, the for the vast majority of college city is but yes, because of the health ministry has been come funding. that's at least $28.00 palestinians have to report that killed within the past 24 hours of bringing the total number of victims been killed since the outbreak of this conflict surpassed more than 34500 palestinians have been killed since october. the 7th, a tire we've been once you of course, very closely at the pro palestinian protests on going on. campuses university comes as the united states have those protests, the ad, the how widespread they all has that filtered through to people and goals of the as well. generally, neck people here in the church are you there fully enclose the what, what is happening in the american universities and multiple universities around the globe in regarding of the ongoing proof tests made by international students. and
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they are coding for a name for the genocide to engage with. they have been increasing that one is about what is happening in the proceed enclave in terms of the high on president rates of casualties, industrial amongst civilians including children and women. and at the same time, palestinians are feeling the significance inbox to assist students preachers have really made in terms of the administrations of these universities. and even in the governments that they are protesting of that countries is specifically that there is ongoing mounting pressure on the east by the government to reach to us as far dreaming to bring an end for the fights. and we continue to hear repeatedly from the is ready for i met a set that with a we balance it to you to reach trusting fund agreements. russell will be invited to as big claim submitted, tally this months of the remaining activity, and uh for the military movement of homeless spots. yet, this is the real nightmare. this is the what the going to bring down to speak of a humanitarian catastrophe. back on the table as dart multiple efforts being made
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within the past few months to mitigate the humanitarian crisis for any potential military. encouraging for rough i means that there was going to be blue shirts, gonna be completely shut it in that area. as the boss majority of the us population of being trucks here, but in fact, the palestinians are per pound goes. we have been talking to the appreciate these protests being organized by do so students sharing their own sort of directly with people being dest place, being monitored, malnourished, and being killed on an hourly basis, as they are being also cooling for more steps to be taken in order to pull into exec pressure on the international community to pull israel top, it's military offensive, and garza a or a chart. thanks for that. that's pitcher and rough in southern garza target i resume that. thank you. so let's head back to the assignments. our top story where police in right guess who are attempting to claire a peaceful protests against the morton dogs repair to possibly withdrawal from the
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government at the university. california in los angeles authorities had ordered them to disperse, but the students have been defying those goals and not moving on tuesday night, palestine solidarity protests were attacked by a group of israel supports. as police have been criticized for the delayed response to that attack. let's get to the latest idea of what's happening within the company is about 400 protests in protest is and then coming to use the la just the other side of the building. we're looking at right. the we can speak to freelance yet it's been camacho who's within the u. c. l, a campus and then what's the latest that you're seeing and hearing? yeah, so right now there is the, there issue another dispersal order. uh, this is probably the 61 that i for today or the tonight um, but protesters have largely just kind of gone back to sending to the camp and
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really just occupying the space here in front of royce hall. uh, there is a small group of protesters that did uh reinforce some barricades uh for the main doors of really tall. uh, but other than that, uh, people are just, you know, occupying the space just as earlier, just as before, the come showed up. so it sounds like the protests is a residence. they have no intention of moving despised police orders. that's correct. that's actually the 1st thing they said when they pushed back that way, pd, they told them that they are not leaving. tell us why, but it's such a degree of solidarity and determination to hold the ground and to make their voices had as well. i think i think these protesters feel very strong connection and i mean, i spoke to someone who is from the west bank and has family and god and you know, thankfully or the, their family hasn't been completely bombed out of existence. just like many other
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families who we have, you know, read reports that their families, their entire lineage is completely bombed out of existence, are killed in this war. and so i think the trust sensors are seeing what's going on and being that they are tied directly to it through the system which does invest in certain companies that do bid that do profit off of the israeli occupation. and they're, they just want to take control of where their money and so aside from the investment houses, i think, you know, there's, there's many palestinians here, palestinian americans that are from the diaspora. so there's they, they could have family over there, or maybe it's all in the family here, but obviously they're originally from over there. and so a to, to see their homeland beam bomb then, you know, rough uh, the last place where civilians are, are living right now. and you know, as i'm here in your own report that there's been as really a tax on the uh,
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just in the past 24 hours. and i think uh, the, this issue is very pertinent to this community here. the thing is, because it will be that is that say that this is, has to be declared and unlawful assembly. as you say, that the plaintiff was ordered the special orders 6 times. it is it right then to break the law and cause such disruption. to make voices hud i, i don't want to speak for the protesters, but i, i do know that killing civilians. this is a war crime and that's something that these protesters are speaking out again. so if they feel strongly enough that, uh, you know, we use that. they said they have to, uh, you know, break the law to get the message across. and i think that speaks to the larger issue that, um, you know, the, the government isn't listening to protesters and they have to resort to these types
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of means. so, uh, just a quick update. i am the, uh processor. is that the doors of, uh, royce hall, they are yelling into a door. i'm not sure what that means, but i imagine that police are right behind those doors. yeah. but i'll tell you what, then what we're looking at right now is a bus load of police in riot gear have just arrived to see them. and actually there's another buses, 2 busses between now and a 3rd. and maybe we'll be on that. or i think with a lot police on board, it seems that the police are arriving and very large numbers and congregating just outside the building on come post that looks for us to go to see if he's got a better view of what's going on or is heard anything more around. what do you say is rope reynolds all across one of the coast of the we've been seeing a lot of of, of lease vehicles coming to this area. excuse me. they're
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congregating over here. this is royce hall, the big building there. the wizard able to go into that building and then emerge from various entrances towards where the encampment is. these protestors are saying they're going to hold the line in case the police try to come in this direction, but it doesn't look like the police are moving in this direction. now i have just the notes to everyone within earshot that they're subject to arrest. if they don't leave the area, so it looks like maybe the police are getting a little more serious right now. bringing in reinforcements, telling these people believe, bringing in a groups to go into royce hall and move towards the cabinets. and also,
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i think half a dozen or more of a lease transport buses have been brought into position on campus. so these would be the buses that would be used to transport people who get arrested to the police stations for processing if they are arrested. so the police are prepared for that as well. um, did you hear that the crowd is, is a very excited and voluble, but i think it's considerably smaller than it was several hours ago. the number of people here as, as the end of quite a bit, i don't know if that does people who are simply sort of sightseeing. i decided to call it a day in the hardcore or people who are really committed are left or, or some thing else, right. realize why you're sure. okay. yeah, you're talking about the numbers they're sending out as far as the routes concerned
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with the the numbers and these is building rapidly. they all looking at some speed, i think downs roads income is hard to tell exactly they suddenly they arrived in 2 or 3 buses outside royce, whole the main university building, and then making that way at a low within the campus at, towards i think being comments in very large numbers, they will see what happens that it's difficult to see how this can be result road without things getting out of hand as well. you have to imagine how which is worse for the, for the police and the establishment here to, um, uh, uh, like lose a confrontation with the uh, with the, the guys the solidarity and camp and protesters or to move in force slowly and quickly move them out i think either one of the one is
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a bad idea. the 2nd they're entering into the camp, but now i see. so we're told that they got there, but tons out and they're preparing to enter the encampment. and the police here a stepped a bit forward and they are facing off with this crowd approaches. but you can see this crowd of protesters is not making any moves to approach the police. so this is what i can see with my eyes. and here with my years, and i can't really give you much more than that. it is. yeah, well, what you're saying, it's broad is what we're seeing from the, from the. yeah. or actually does it had a call to shop looking done. large numbers of police just slowly assembling around the encampment. of course real. the emphasis, as far as the protests is concerned,
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has been on peace and non violence. the question is now how they will react if there is a large scanning cousin by that a police officers into the income the you can, you can here, in fact the, the supporters here, what they're changing is peaceful protests. so the extent to which each individual will exist or comply depends on, on the protest or this is what method i got from one of the protesters that i've got to know over the past few days. i asked them if they thought that everyone would comply and not resist or do something more uh, more resisted then they said, well, it really depends on the person. so you could have a, some situations here where people will simply act well,
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yes. and there might be other situation for people try to get away from the police down the street to the inner areas of the uh, in 10 business cetera. but i think your observation that this very large number of police now being brought in uh, indicates that the authorities are trying to bring this to some point. so right. the police game assembly in large numbers, moving parts of what it is like barricades in the backdrop of one of the shots that we can seize for testers, throwing items back in the monthly crowds of police officers the rule. how do you think what we're witnessing here kind of equates and resonates what we've seen before. as far as student protests concerned, united states as well. there
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are certainly similarities. you could draw similarities to the student protests. going back to the free speech movement in the early, 1960, before the opposition to the war, vietnam really rose. but there were attempts to clear campuses into, you know, just for students out of their gathering places. um, there were a, the vietnam war opposition on campus that what were sometimes shut down quite, quite brutally in the case of kent state or the jackson state and mississippi were where students died in protests going forward from that. you have the
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anti apartheid protest on to on college campuses during the 1980s. that's where i think, pretty instrumental in helping change public perception of us policy toward south africa. and then uh, you know, we go to the enormous convulsive protests, not only on campuses, but on the streets in the black lives matter. protests of 2020, following the murder of george lloyd. so you know, all of these cases, i think that the protesters learn something about how to deal with police. the police learn some new tactics on how to deal with protesters of the world. thanks for the last one that just outside the incumbents that you see a le, let's go inside the income and now jump pelts. as an independent journalist joins
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us live on the phone as police. john have moved in, in very large numbers. they've arrived in 2 or 3 buses and now i have approached in conference. what do you seeing the i see a crowd by the stairwell. there's sort of blocking off the entrance that the c h p is supposedly coming up up. and there's a great deal of noise going on. there's a great deal of alertness in people trying to close off at exit. i don't. how originally to, of the protest is in the face of the police arriving these large numbers. they're pretty organized. uh, you know there's, there's protests leaders that have come in for them. what are people with different areas uh they have, you know, different materials back. ready but they're freaking to different areas. but overall there, uh, you know, there's people outside the cabinet that i think are actually giving information to
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them. so i think they're pretty organized right now. are they worried for the safety or you must be where i feel safe to your and amongst them? yes, i am worried for my safety and i want to talk to i read some people are just tired and boring. but overall, it's still a pretty active situation and people are tired. and so the something's going on. so i got to that a yeah. as well as the, as we can see from the helicopter shot, we can see that please call me away from the front line of protesters and obviously exchanges words and some shape or form. there's not many, many, dozens of police around the sea now around the incumbent. at just to recap the, we saw at the p d low sound, just police department, and so within the company they are quickly surrounded and then they retreated. but
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now we've had 2 or 3 buses, maybe more of a police in riot gear, arriving at the same. and they made their way down from voice hole, which is the main university building down to the scene here at the encampment where there are more than 400 pro palestine at protest is protested against israel's actions in gaza at john. what's happening now? um i just be someone being on the microphone, there's people standing on top of this rail as the front of the exit. um there's a lot of lights going off. uh but overall people are still blocking that exit. i feel a journalist putting their masks on their gas and that's done. so i might, i might have to cut it because it do that too soon. but this is it. take us maybe
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5 i guess and uh, and flash bolt refresh buttons as well. uh, so just before you do that, can you see how this can be resolved without disintegrating badly? i think that the administration should call for the police to back off from the protesters if they want to resolve this peacefully. so again, i don't see how it could be resolved peacefully with those rights locked up again. right. and remind us what the demands of the protesters are, if you would um, the, the practices are, are asking for the investment from is from company is that uh, profit board, as i understand as weapons company is. and they are asking for the companies that that are in israel, and they're also asking for, i think, abolishing the university police and several other demands i, i probably can't remember john, we'll let you get away now. and thanks for that. thanks very much. the deepest
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because the 0. what's going on here at the u. c. l, a campus with 400 also, protest is on now surrounded by los angeles police and we awaits the next move. let's bring in stevens there now. she's a professor of politics and international studies. specializes in middle east in politics at the university of san francisco, joins us live now from golf and back in sweden as a professor. as soon as 1st off, what's your, i've an impression of, of what you're seeing here at, you've lost experience in the political field. what, what do you think about what's happening? and it's quite disturbing, actually. um, these kinds of peaceful encampments are not new. back in the 1980s, there were a large, similar protest on campuses calling for divestment of university holdings and corporations doing business and apartheid south africa. i was part of that movement myself. and while students were arrested, if we, for example, set in an administration building or tried to block traffic,
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usually the encampments were allowed to stay as long as they didn't interfere with the young normal, uh, business of the, of the university. and so that what we're seeing a new c l a right now, and what we're seeing and other campuses is intolerance. even for a peaceful protest that doesn't interfere with anything but what clearly they are taking a much harder line against the people. ready of protesting on behalf of palestine other than they have on people who protested on various other causes. and there is other concerns and there is other oppress, peep. ready historically, there's barely, they're double standard uh, going on here and, and, and, and really unprecedented a level at least. and in recent decades of suppression of a free speech on university campuses. and given the election year that we are in, this is a huge challenge and enormous headache for president jeff white and a very much so i mean,
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a lot of comparisons have been made to 1968 the campus protest of that era. we're actually columbia university also and played on a role in the instigation of this nation wide movement. and it really hurt to the democratic party of the, of the democratic nominee, hubert humphrey, who had been vice president, was a supporter of the vietnam war, which most students supposed. and a lot of people stay at home and, and, and the young people stay at home and didn't vote democratic as they normally would . and that led to richard next. and the winning a narrow leads that november. and next, it was also able to take advantage of all there's chaos on campuses and law and order and that kind of thing which is very much part of the. ready republican playbook, and so now we are seeing a similar thing uh, a taking part and ironically the democratic convention is going to be in chicago again like it was in 1968 when they had the bigger protest and then police
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repression there. so this was certainly gotten democrats and nervous because one of the things that go on the one of the. ready principles of american politics is you not alienate your base and the election year and progressives and students and our americans. and those ones are traditionally democratic voters. and by supporting this kind of police repression by continuing to support the of the gods of war. uh, it is very, it's definitely hurting the democrats chances and, and november at a given what you'll say, how closely do you think the, the strings of police action a u. c. l, a in los angeles are being pulled of manipulated by the white house. so it wouldn't be just just left to the mayor of los angeles and the police departments themselves, or will the white house be weighing in on precisely what needs to happen any give many pieces of right fluid situation. i mean these, these are the immediate decisions are made by the administrations of the
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particularly universities and often with the input of the mayor or the governor of the state in which they are located. and generally, the federal government stays out of these kinds of things. however, given that the by the ministration has said, you're using words like intifada. is there any submitted hate speech, but of course any arabic speaker, the simply means shaking off it does not necessarily to note violence. most of the intifada is the throughout the our world. in fact, i've been non violent and, and some early to say river to the c means you want to kill or spell the jews when most people who say it are simply talking about a democratic sector stage and all of the storage palestine. so with the white house starts saying got some of the popular slogans of the movement. r hayes beach and threatening against the jews. that gives these administration as an excuse to crack down, even though the white house may not be directly. uh, encouraging uh the, the universities to do so. and saving the mountains of the protests is buried at
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each university. having the majority of the demonstrations, the cooling full of the development from companies that support israel, and indeed the war on garza. can you see that that is something that the you say in this particular case is the following. these events are unfolding in los angeles are likely to do or at least offer to hold talks with the students to try and diffuse the situation of the demands of i, that's another are quite reasonable. they're getting their, they've asthma was the big central piece of the protests about against a party in south africa in the 1980s. are there in protests or divestment from a companies who are carver and polluters. and the name is a fighting a climate change. there's been died estimates against the companies that use sweat shops and exploit of labor practices. and so this is an old tradition and, and very often not consistently, but often the univer are these have eventually agreed to the student demands. and so, um, you know, just demanding divestment from the company supporting israel's war and occupation
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are really not that unreasonable. but uh, yeah, but the, there's a lot of push back, not just from people who are pro, is your over. but from, from a wealthy corporations, the wealthy individuals who don't believe in ethical investment policies anywhere. who don't think that the things to think investments in and dominate, you'll only be for profit and they're not concerned about these are mondays model issues at all. so you're getting pushed back, not just designers, but from, you know, a core powerful corporate interest which are more and more influential in american higher education. i said very briefly, 30 seconds if you would, how would you see this resolving itself or do you think these protests of just going to grow and grow? i think the protest will continue. we are getting close to the end of the semester . we're most students go home, so it's not going to go on indefinitely. but i definitely do believe it's going to we'll see continued protest in the coming weeks. a all right statement. we'll leave it that says stephen's eunice,
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professor of politics and international studies speak to us that from go from back in sweden, steve. and thanks very much indeed for that. so just to recap on the situation that we're observing here, that you say a university of california in los angeles looking at aerial shots of the incumbent at the university campus where a hundreds, $400.00 pro, posted in protest as have been ordered to leave, but have not done, so they've had the 6th dispersal order from the police apparently. and they are holding from the now, as you can see, the dozens and dozens and dozens of right police gathered around the scene earlier, we had place within the incumbents itself, in a very small number that cautiously went in. and they cautiously retreated. but now it's rum temper the best way to rock the supervisor. and we're waiting to see just what happens next. the
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