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it's all loose, like friends. so it's come to a point where these countries see that we need a new pattern issue. ok, we need a new by lex corporation. i, in military, it cannot make whatever means. so whatever it is now up to them to decide of who do want to engage in going forward. and i think based on the trajectory the, how willing to participate operate with russia on all levels. hands down what it means to hopefully be clear. okay. yeah. so citizen, when do rush awful by electra pushing, going forward. parts of kenya and tanzania have seen weeks of devastating floods and land slides. now more torrential rain is on the way threatening to the rail recovery efforts. katherine story has more from the town of my mosley and central acadia. government was invalid and t, as in my, my you have a lot area to cover declaring debris as they look for more bodies,
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possibly chopped under the mot flagged. waters gosh, down stream, hiring huge cheese and boulders, thousands of people and houses when the tartans past was swept away. to stay in one boy's harvest cannot be solved, reached the souls, how find the whole magenta when there was a body found over there? there many people who cannot be found, many of my neighbors cannot be found. so do you watch any rate residency the incident was caused by a blocked dream, which then caused water to accumulate in a dandy upstream. that was the what, how much it was and the people estate they are just like to to be alive. now how should guerria use here to look for his nephew from somebody saying, he says this was a man made disaster fema. this was caused by the state and national roadways
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corporation. they are the ones who build the cold down stream and the tunnel up stream. it should be their responsibility to maintain the system. those who lost everything are at the comp for the displaced. the getting caught meals, floats and medical ok. if you have a be a subsidies to whether they will even brokerage in the 1st place. because our team is got into the ground with sublease. what at 20 front. so it would be pretty much want to say there was a real page if it was negligence, that is blame when the government boots were waiting for news of the missing relatives said that desperate to find the bodies only then can they find solace. kathleen, so i'll just 0 my my hear central, can you the generation changes next. one of the biggest elections of 2024 in the general election will administer
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now render movies be taking increase its route across the country. how will economic uncertainty and you've sent employment sway, voters in key states and will the media be able to cover the vote, reading and fairly ongoing coverage. but in the, as an actions on, out as the era. the very low cons and public confrontation, young people across the u. k, a, putting their bodies on the line to force the attention of the issues that might to them. meanwhile, t u. k. government is coming down approaches. it considered as disruptive and 90 social with new rules and hostile consequences. welcome to generation change a global series attempts to understand and challenge the ideas that might provides you around well, today we meet 2 activist peas, different methods to push and nobody's to change. whether it's direct action or
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engaging with the political system, they come pain or issues ranging from the climb emergency to migrant light and the play belong straight. the so fast to me, you born in canada to somebody, parents that you grew up here in london. what prompted to see the doctors and see what plans of the seed for me was growing up in the early 2, thousands and the backdrop of the rock floor everywhere you left immediate talking about my sons and talking about people that looked like man. i think last told me with a lot of anger and kind of confusion and i became quite upset to politics if i didn't engage in that politics is definitely engaging with me in my identity and setting
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the terms. and i didn't about top of i think people are familiar with the time climate crisis to climate. imagine the venue spoken about climate justice won't see me when you talk about us for a long time. we've talked about climate change as an environmental issue, right. but climate change is a symptom of a system not breaking down and not working and responsible for a lot of other injustices. so whether we're talking about racial injustice, whether we're talking about the housing crisis, or inequality at the heart of it is an economy that prioritizes profit and profit for the few. and then is pondering people on time. so we have the same companies who are responsible for the vast majority of emissions are also responsible for poor working conditions and low wages. those are responsible for not paying taxes and who has to pick up the bill people. so when we talk about climate justice,
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we talk about building a hopeful vision of the future. that means we can tackle other social injustices and the pursuit of timeframe. how much it will be. we would say that there are many sign it movements of the name. it was a fight a against the climate crisis. say, where did you see a got a new organization? green. you do a rising engine, the rising. we haven't better than analysis of things at the time that we've been hasn't necessarily gotten right. one of them is my time limit for a long time has been white and middle class. and we will know in order to be something as big as climate change, we need everyone. and so how do we include everyone's, what it's, we've built an economy that's the only priority was to serve people in panic. we would have an economy that invested in communities that built well for communities that lived within planetary boundaries because we're investing in renewables and
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public transport. and that's what we're doing are going to do a rising as we're talking about the green deal, which is an economic transformation that allows us to thrive in the future and tackle climate change. the other thing that's super different about what we're doing is for political or main tack, it take us to find them keys and hold them accountable in terms of challenge them and film them so that we have them on record. and when we put them on line, you know, it's up to the electorate to decide whether these people are for us and against us . there's not much traces, i like to go much. i appreciate one of our most part popular challenges is when we challenge pretty fatality, a former home secretary who's passing the time to kind of offshore refugees and migrants to lawanda for processing. and we went to a fundraising dinner. she was hosting an disruptive dot that engaged the and actually it wouldn't buyer or i think
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a lot of people looked at it and ask themselves why it's time to this. talking about migrations, things like the rwanda times are just a distraction to get us to be angry at migrants. people who just want better lives in opportunities. instead of being angry at a political class that is just taking more and more from working people and giving us less than return is the your that is published in your mom is a rock a, but you were born and bred in the u. k. how did your family story and background check your, what would be? well, for my family, we were actually the only ones from both sides of the family to have her come to a western country. so i have most of my dads, how many living in georgia and on and exile and all of my mom's family we live in,
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get it right. so when you go pay with that kind of background, it's very difficult to not be political your way as a young person. what was your 1st kind of experience as active as i've been doing the type of work the day? so i was researching into my university and i said of the board quite divestment of sanctions campaign. got many students and academics on board and then later went on to replicate the other universities. and this really laid the foundations fault for what later was formed as part of sign action. the can you tell me a little bit about palestine action, what and they teach once it starts it. so how about an action? is there a direct talk soon? that what on our main focus on our main target is out, but systems which is as low as largest dom span. i was specifically,
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it was thought is because all of the i've been used to bring in and bog or between britain and is where i've had fails and clear things through the political process . so late. but i specifically which i was involved in. and one of your other route fails, then di with action was to be left open for us. so we started off by initially storming into that headquarters in london. stay financing across the offices, and kept going back again and again. and eventually, mom, all people joins our, our network, so one of that must have factories an old and was boss too. so i must have lost and they were forced to abandon that one that has courses. so for us, we want to continue to go with this movement until all of our big sites. so shut down in this country. can you explain why is chosen speak? some elvis systems may produce the vast majority of as well as military drone plays . we've seen how this is used on the cops of population of gauze uh,
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routinely. they market them as possible tested or compact pre fun, and then use that to sell onto or that rate james across the wells. they've been used it against the people of customers. for example, iraq, afghanistan, and many other places also against refugees here who were trying to seek safety in this country. they also build the electronics for the apartheid wall. the same system is being used between us and mexico, so we can see how it starts off in palestine, and it is used against other people across the wells. can you explain exactly what risks you run yourself in order to carry this out? we were quite heavily targeted, i think at the start of palestine action, we saw that followed up by res. i'm on our homes, but the co phones is increasing, arresting. richard bond on another co found for black come out and it was after that he said that he would go in hunger strike if the landlords did not fix out, but they did continue to charge um several of us 1st that so were facing the charge
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. the block now ive cuz thursday to connect someone damage and since thursday to back on the guessing rest, it is kind of hard to the plan is not the ends of the process, but its, i'd say in the call process in itself is an extension of the action and is why we keep trying forces complaints to basically give out information that they would not normally give out. but you are running a real risk to and you know, status games presents. if this continues to operate, you know, more and more lives are going to be taken. and so i'm more than willing to accept the prison. as a consequence, i will still be a lot better off than most people who have to you at the end of these lessons to kick things off. i just want to ask in the u. k, we've gone through so many big changes.
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do you think that young people are disillusioned or do you think they all politically engaged? active, what's your opinion at the moment? i think both i think young people are, does this illusion that i'm one of them? um, but we're also political. i think we're in this period, we're actually social activism and social movement. i've never been more active and imagine it's heavy, but it's the political elite and you know, look toral politics that i think is what's the solution? mean young people because we have a electronical system in a voting system, not a is not representative it but also because people are bold action. they want their economy to work for them in their communities. they want action on climate change. they want investment in our public services. the only reason we survived the pandemic were pete because of the front line service workers. i thought we all agreed during the pandemic, that those are the people that should be at the heart of our communities. they are the people that we should be investing in. and the only reason that and bold action is because we still have in place political leaders who somehow haven't caught up
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with a consensus. the fact is that many young people are the solutions with a political system, but i think a way more political than, than ever before because the political system, i mean like told politics has failed. so many people and i think a situation of call been and leave as well on a lot of young people into poly politics and they felt like that was a very cool change. and when that didn't work for myself, at least it opened my ours to realizing that we cannot afford to invest our time into a system that wasn't designed for us. but that doesn't mean that there isn't ways that we can be politically active and change our society from the grassroots rather than through, appealing to the powers that be to create those changes for us. i mean, i would say that i don't see social movements being successful unless they have a political weight and so it's not about whole. so giving not on i like toral, of them are politics. it's about trying to use the power of social movements from
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the grass roots to kind of course that change and we, we see it happening around the world actually enlighten america. we're seeing the hopes of that sort of political wing of progress, the politics starting to take power. you know, if you look at your life, for example, and while we had that defeat in 2019 with the carbon sleeper, i do see, you know, i'm pragmatic enough to see that there is another way into power. we just need to build stronger movements, a faithful climate change. it may be slightly different and you're right, you do needs a complete overhaul of the system, which will require the state and the government to get behind it. but i think when it comes to imperialism and politics and support of the policy and people, then jeremy colbin was an exception. i believe for what we've had for the past 100 years of successive governments. and no politician in this country has ever shut down an alms back today. whereas people have faith, if you'll nathan's all quite young. and they were funded around 2019,
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which was just the full, the table pandemic. and then, you know, we've had the warranty crane when you look at one of those issues on the outside, how do you think they've impacted your, what i'm, what you're trying to achieve. so we started at an interesting time in 2019. um, it was a time when it was kind of the kind of activism around climate change. i don't think i've ever seen before. you had, you know, extinction rebellion we had to climate strikers. you have the u. k. announcing the 1st sort of net 0 target by 2050 in the world. and then early in 2020, a pandemic came, people were suddenly talking about government intervention. we're talking about investment instead of austerity. we're talking about building back a better and not going back to the economy pre pandemic. and coming out of the pandemic, we have the korean war, which put stressors across europe, particularly on energy supply. and what we saw was the u. k announced new north sea oil and gas, and that's put us in a really difficult position because investing
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a new fossil fuel infrastructure doesn't help us meet or meet our energy needs now . and it doesn't lower energy bills, but also just puts us in perpetual crisis because the climate crisis is not going anywhere. who the id feel about all of the big events that happened recent years and how that directly impacts what you're doing. yes, sir, for some context we launched at the end of july 2020 and then in may 2021. this has when we saw a due to the solar 2 people have caused the people being forced out the homes and and jerusalem. and we saw a massive increase and people following enjoining public time option and supporting the cause. during that time, there was a factory and full activities has climbed onto the top of the reef. all set fox 3 in less the and move in a couple of hours. hundreds from the local community came out support, it was ox today. and then we saw the fire service pull out and says,
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and refuse and say to the police that we will not meet these protesters. so for us, it was about go straight to these arms companies, specifically out, but systems and bypass the political process. and that strategy also expose the fact that this company exists here because many alms companies, they kind of hides in plain sight and these spots series and industrial towns that you wouldn't know what this is was between that one. and the one next, all which bills tories for children. and we found it to be extremely successful where it was before we had never seen that type of success and forcing the closure of is really on stock stories in this country. 2022. so people across the u. k facing flooring place and on a rock with the rising cost of living prices. that plus prices and strikes in one industry after another from postal and transport work has to don't because annoyed
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so i want to know what break if you think about how far it is that you should be able to go to in terms of guessing your points across and i think it's distance for different movements. so for the change strikes on, is that right? and but so in order for them to gain the right to mass salary and the device, so they deserve as well, cuz then it's necessary for them to disrupt the tray line. i think paula said, action is quite different though to was extinction galleons tactics mainly because expansion volume is more focused on disrupting at the public as a whole as a way of posting pressure on the government in order to enact that they, they radical change. it needs on the climate where it was for us, we are more focused on directly disrupting the companies we talk with using weapons . so that was less impact on the public. i was, i was just,
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i just had the are usually about us on action. goes a step further than extinction. rebellion smashing up. yeah. conference rooms causing damage to the appropriate a. so how do you justify that? well, what smashing up an honest company west, i think that ability to produce weapons and i think many people would agree that you kind of put a price on one human life. you can put a price on a window or a fax or a, a reef, for example. i'm not sure never come at the cost of human life. if you saw a child with a human being about to be high and you had to knock down it all in order to help them knock out the door without without hesitation. and that's exactly the same principle. do you have anything that you would add? yeah, absolutely. i am a student of social movements and we often are to a white washed version of whether it's martin luther king or gandhi, or the women's rights movements. huge parts of those movements took direct action
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that really did stop daily life going on for people. are politicians, and so we're going to need movement set, take a variety of different actions. and the fact that we're in a day and age where we think striking workers removing their labor as being extreme . well, who said we have a right over there, labor, right? if we're not creating a conditions that are fair for them to work and why should they not down their tools? and so i've been really inspired to see the union leaders that have been on our television articulating the fears and hopes of ordinary working people. in 2022, the case of men 40 and legislation to come. that would be as disruptive person now in the public or the bill. subbing for economy wants to introduce even hoster will . we will also increase a maximum penalty to disrupt and remote away criminalized interference. with team for structures such as rows, railways, and our free press on here. so please,
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i'm the quotes, new power. it's not a human rights design wise prophecy. to don't mind freedom of expression to protest finally. no, you just thought of right or glue yourself to the rose and get away with it. pretty cool. these messages to threaten long standing democratic freedom. the government says they are needed because recent protest by minority of actually that have been dangerous training public funds. and so i bet he's police resources. what do you think about these, even though isn't bills and they effect so have and do you think it will impact the way you move forward? i think people embracing for a long time is to thank the author are terry and is in was the domain of certain country as well. actually, you know, britain has exercised it around the world for a long time, and now it's here at home and trying to curtail protests on one side. it shows that we're being impactful because actually the,
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the government is needing to legislate on specific types of protests. on the other hand, i think a lot of people are worried. i've just seen in spaces when we're talking about protests and thinking about the type of actions that we are planning these bills package are written they factor into who's willing to take these action. it is an incredibly hostile moment for our movements, but this is the moment we can let them when, because it becomes the new norm and then therefore we're unable to sort of cool back any right. so if we let that become something that's accepted today, you're running, those are still ready or running the risk of things and to present. and how do you feel about all of this happening? because i'm all attack 6 already based on direct action. i'm over the criminalized, the new bills don't affect toes that much, but actually the more they try and repressed, i'm put on new laws and you bells, i think the more people actually moved to was more radical types of options. we saw
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recently at the end. so you monica, a protest, people coming investors for just shouting slogans like, who elected them, you can face the rest for that. then one of the rest is for shutting down an honest company. i think that what they are, what they've done is go to and by flashing and how are movements, what of the government says that these bills are necessary? because guerrilla tactics used by small minority afraid test is of course, disproportionate impact on the hard watching majority seeking to go about that everyday lives. what do you make the argument? we looked at for the breakdown the climate and, and in order to get the message across that forced into a situation where they're forced into blocking the general public, then it's for the great to got. i think when people take more drastic action and response and wrong, and i'm blaming those activists, we have to blame the government who didn't act fast just to kind of illuminate a bit more we did. we did an action over the summer where we disrupted the hustings
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of the conservative party who were trying to choose their new leader and disrupted the speech of less trust. the reaction in that moment as i was being dragged away was like show the militants act to this, such as extinction, rebellion know, table to disrupt ordinary people who what caused the, the right thing. i guarantee what they want to create a situation where the government of the day decides what they think is fair, what they like. who are the good guys, who are the bad guys? democratic societies don't work like that. democratic societies are one to allow for there to be debate that allows for people to have different opinions for people to organize and help determine that their future. and we're slowly sort of looking away from that kind of society, them into one that's governed by a few. if you could take a step back and imagine the world that you want to see,
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what is it that you want to see the future like you like in the u. k. i one a, a future where we have, we're sort of democratic renee some, some people are able to be involved in decision making. and that decisions as a society are based on what benefit people and benefit plans over process. you know what the timeline of climate change wants to, gary? i think we have opportunity in this window to make sure that the way that we tackle the climate crisis is one that has just to set its heart. but there is a risk, right? i think governments will find a way to tackle climate change, but it's not secure that they're going to do it in a way that's fair. i think everyone now believes climate change exists and the main stream, the fight is over, how we tackle it. and we wanna make sure we tackle it in a way that protects our communities. what by you had, i mean your future that might involve time in prison and but if you would kind of imagine that the seats that we're going to pay off, how would it look?
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well i think the office 1st one would be and i'm to as well as arms chase and threaten. i've implemented people or rather, but i just wanted to was largest export yvonne's more of a tiny island as was so much roots back to here. so if it has a must have overhauled of that whole industry for that kind of thinking and tactics to be transported to other countries. and then i believe, you know, hopefully within our lifetime we can see if we palestine before that to happen. we need sanctions. i'm the government's own. going to do it so the people have to do it themselves. don't fatima, thank you so much for speaking with me today. calling
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attention to any quality pollution meant extra disease. ok and county has low income communities. my one brother was killed by please the dentist that we say is but the one past one day, and organize that are on the record. how old are these people off? when we begun supplementing buffle, then it has been put on the bus that april gorbinko who brought in generation
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change. can you change is coming is no doubt about it on a dizzy to examine a being proactive. today's headlines. i wish i had the word word to describe what setting the agenda for tomorrow's discussions right now. if you're on campus talking about the site, you are being called anti semitic and a supporter of care international filmmakers and will cross journalist bring programs to inform that inspired to options await us in the immediate future. quite a crisis for climate revolution on alger 0, forgotten victims of the clean energy transition populations are facing starvation and hung because of climate change. exploited in the quest for congress is co bumped. who owns the mind? how would they explain, and how would they govern the dreams in the usa of electric, s, u,
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v. as for all the rest on the back of extraction, from the minds of congo, and from the bodies of candidly is workers. all just the risk, new series dying are beyond the o. n h, the to us police dismantle yet another protest encampment. arresting dozens of people in new york university and students in europe gather in solidarity with palestinians and paris and berlin . they are saying that they refused to be sent to the single venue. it's good to have you with us. this is alice has your life and also coming up to date.

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