as will suffice, be more than 75 countries around the world, 100 percent of set on an emergency donation spence on projects, and we ensure beneficiaries come 1st of a 300 on luis, haven't had going through the run for crossing in recent months. our most of these bless and be blessed and we all turning your donations into direct delivery in the shortest possible time donates with confidence. the ties between greece and israel have strengthened in recent years despite a long history of supporting the palestinian cause. relationship fuels in part by a shared mistrust of another regional power to a kid. but in light of israel's war and gaza, greece is now forced to play the role of critical friend, while the same time advancing a full blown and confrontation with his old address re. i'm correct. join me need falk over the next hoffman house. squeeze this for administer,

your go scatter for treatise talks to ouch is here the go square, patrice as welcome to talk to l. just so pleasant, and no, no, thank you for the invitation. they were staying on the precipice of a potential, full blown is rarely invasion. of rough and southern gaza, causing huge concerns about the implications on the should be in this area and situation that the civilian population that so much so that even the united states, the storage i live, as well as urged israel to show restraint as another ally of israel, what conversations are you having with your history, the counterpart, specifically about rafa and the conflict when you're in the library i thing you will have to be very honest, very open, very from instance here. so our main point is that any sort of invasion to rafa should be avoided and prevented at the moment. there is

a huge combination of the population in the roughly it's a very overcrowded region. and any sort of invasion could close that dramatic humanitarian crisis, which we need to avoid. so our advice is that these should be prevented by any possible means. what i really want to say is that at this moment, we're just not the very crucial johnstone, it's a difficult situation that we're encountering because of the overload of on their own speech feet spillover effects in the region. we have the situation 11 under the situation in syria, in the red sea. obviously we had things eventually they'd on both of these very moments or pot. this needs to have a very high level of uh, site for straight talking about surface tray. and this must be an incredibly difficult diplomatic position. the grease has been put in recently to quotes. i'm in a security echo. so let's, let's talk is back in november, said of israel quote,

sometimes friends have to speak hard truths to friends. that was 5 months ago. has this sort of been listening to any of those truths. what i have to say is that in this position you have to be very open, but you have to be a room based a lot. yeah, i think and just from the very 1st day we had the opportunity to be very open, but also very principles in our policy. we didn't take any side. what we said was that we need to the social shapes. the 3rd is the thoughts, the how most organization from the promising and people we said that the ease, ryan is had the rights to defend themselves. but we think the boundaries of humanitarian law and all their all international law. we say it's costly just should not be kept because this is the time it gets any sort of international law using people us too much sense. and what we also said was that we need to minimize

to the maximum the civilian losses. obviously all of these were not sure, but the, the international community had these lots of goods. the point here is needs that we have to be as pressing as possible in order to implement the eventually the, the hold of the facilities at the moment. what were claiming for is that on the students' needs to believe that there is a credible way out. and this is why we're fully supporting the 2 state solution, a ways according to their distribution distribution shop there. i think we've come from of the united nations. we used your ocean, that mazda a competency to of the other side, state. and of course, with the pre, 1967 borders. the thing is now that the whole community, the whole international community, next to exercise the maximum pressure upon the parties in order to reach an agreement that they really appreciate what cutoffs and egypt and other art up

states are doing. and the efforts of the european union, how convinced all those goals, partners, our states? i mean, obviously you were here in the region to speak to, to permanent figures. how convinced all those partners here in the middle east and further feel that you are willing to push israel as far as you possibly can on this at the moment? is there a reason? i think a consensus was in the european union partners that we need to have an immediate so as far and we need to further develop our humanitarian needs towards palestine. there is a consensus on uh, on this point and i don't think there is um, any divergence. what we need to do is to find the actual modes in order to exercise further pressure on their partners. and i'm speaking both for the i'm us and uh for each right. um i seen each of us with some photos at the moment to move sides. we joined efforts because there are a lot of funding left which taking place the,

the uh, there is the we need to do. there is a good opinion initiatives or as the american initiative. we need to actually combine all those part on the left for us in order to have a single efforts to be more effective and meaningful. i wonder if we kind of focused on that you are p and initiative because speaking of the harvard center for your p and studies last year, you said that quote, global governance needs to be based on principles, not just international standards of law, but coherent and consistent policy on a matter of consistent policy. the use dressing was speech, has greece being consistent in defending international, more and gaza, as you, you, you has been when it comes to the war and ukraine and russia's invasion. i take that to imply that we have double standards, but the thing is that when it comes to breeze, we have a very strong principled foreign policy. we have exactly the same standards when it comes to me, the least or to ukraine or to have such

a hard and not freak out. any other sort of conflict. they both on thing is here that we fully abide by international law. we fully abide by the rules and more of a sofa, uh, international humanitarian law. and we have come on the standards. the thing is 1st step. we need to actually conduct any sort of aggression and the trustees, that's it is a lot of aggression coming from various a started stadium, knocks us. secondly, what we need to stress either is the human dignity is up to the top of our priority . again, i have to serve as a point that we cannot accept the loss of civilian people, but at the same time we cannot accept in any. busy way that keeping costs of disease or practice in order to get the leverage to a hub. uh, introduction of benefits. what i'm saying is that we apply on international law standards. we have to be stronger, but also we have to be as pressing as possible. what we really like is the

implementation of, of our basic beliefs, because because the trustees need that international law in these respects and the international side keeps throughout the picture when it comes to the police, but also to ukraine cost fades in my eyes, there is not case of douglas thunder and sniff. um, what i have to say is, is that we are totally against any sort of aggression. there is no aggressions that could be tolerable only when someone defense that it's uh on here. when it comes with defense of state authority and integrity, it's silver in 3. when it's about the 2030 in law, only, then we have a principal policy and they have to show you that when it comes to they going to be in union. and especially when it comes to race. i think we have a very strong single strong those policy when it comes to ukraine when it comes to um the list from the very 1st time. and we said that there is a rights defense defense for isn't about the same time. we cannot accept any sort

of disproportionate reaction and according to just something it on the disproportionate reaction that use like the i mean house, for instance, germany. the powerhouse is economic powerhouse. a viewer has it's born, keeps support for israel over the years with huge amounts of ministry, supports the tickets, right. how about complicated your relations school aspirations for peace in the region is not complicated. greece is relationship with by that. um, exactly, because we have a very principles policy when it comes to the me listening. if we are able to talk to all interested parties, a, please wait a moment, we can speak to the is ready to affiliate officials as well. to the, from the senior officials, we speak to uh, jordan, we speak to a lender, we speak to egypt, we speak to obviously to our uh, gold spots. and as we speak to all parties here, we have us, uh, shopped in. so it should germany be showing with strange. i think that was the question i'm trying to was windows to remodel view as we're talking when it comes

to gym. support is billions of dollars naval vessels. we're looking at some marines and vehicles. explosive device is not to mention tank, an aircraft pause. what does it mean to you? the e u. made weapons are being used in this theater of war in gaza with such a devastating consequences. no guns should be used in an offensive way. that's our, i'll give you, the guns are produced in order to prevent any sort of course that is in order to be used as a defensive mechanism. and in order to prevent the international security, many human rights groups say, those weapons being used in goals are to indiscriminately and disproportionate be killed. do you believe israel's war and gaza is indiscriminate to? i've seen that there has been a, a disproportionate defense here. i think that the desk told is huge is should not have happens, but obviously when, when uh, the other party,

you know, who is using people as human shields. it's very difficult to operate any sort of defense. on the other hand, what i'm saying is that we should prevent any sort of of, uh, cvd and mostly is what i'm suggesting is that by fueling the conflict by continuing this on, hinted unrestricted flow of web re, i'm a from a prominent e u member states surely is not going to lead to peace to pull the right lever, in order to judge israel to step away from its current trajectory would surely mean doing something more affirmative. the clearly we need to do. so the things of these of the is run. we need to be more pressing. we have discussed these during our, for the 1st comments in the, in luxembourg. and i think we would find ways to, to be more pressing the forthcoming for failure for right now, for a comes in, in,

in process where we're going to invite the is ready for administer. and we're going to hear how the situation is from. she's your point, the truth is i, i think that there is a, you know, limited and are straight to this point. there's going to need me to him on the european union partners. thought this very moment. the war needs to stop that. we should allow further space for diplomacy to prevent and we needs to provide a vision to the front of thing and people swear to the states solution. in april 2021 is running grease. you signed your biggest defense procurement deal to you. i mean, the deal includes this $1650000000.00 contract to train the greek air force. 5 is where the defense contracts are a bit systems as over a 22 year period. that's a serious commitment between greece and israel. well, you will government be reviewing those military ties in light of what we're seeing in the, in the middle east and the israeli oregon. and to be honest name,

i don't think it's the time to actually revisit our contracts in our strategic partnerships. i think the moment is here to 2 minutes to 3 minutes what message does not send in terms of your commitment to piece. and the reason the commitment to peace is our principal active duty to uh, uh, to claim for, for a ceasefire to claim for offenders who money $30.00 need to be a sincere me the to was because the truth is now they have that uh, comforters like greece is more useful, never the same was cathartic because we are able to talk to both parties know, find countries come talk to both countries. and this is the outcome of our route based policy. obviously we of a strategic partnership with caesar and we'll have them carpet. there's a nice thing, it is important to have so that the dick alliances in uh, in the region. but these cars not prevented us from being very strong and very thoughtful with these. right. how would you explain the growing closeness between

greece and israel and recent years off to rule previous greek governments? i think it's fair to say have been very sympathetic to the posting cause i mean the back of 1982. it was greek ships that was sent to bring the p l. o leader. yes, to her thoughts to athens. what's happened over the years? nothing. we still have a excellent relationship with the uh, big states and especially with the palestinian authority from the very 1st time what we said was that we should prevent any sort of dealing with these ational for, for the funds thing in the forward to one of the major problems now is that we do not have a credible interrupt from the public opinion side because in the course of the will, there has been a demoralization of the policy and i forwarded to you from the very 1st day. we said that we would like to see the policy you know, forwarded to being a creditable discuss funds. we think that the palestinian authority represents the policy and people and this is why i myself visited my line and i hosted the for in

minnesota. and i have 2 laptops with the high level of the political leadership in palestine. we have an excellent relationship. we fully support them. we have provided you with some extra money tied in support. and we intend to be again, i am saying this. we intend to be very honest with the tours in these uh, toner mind. i ask about the garden closeness between greece and israel because it appears to me i'm just looking in from the inside. that's that relationship is based upon a shed, mistrust off to you and correct. it's no secret, of course. he remained at all just over the territory of the status of cyprus. the list goes on to 1st of all, i'd like to say that agrees voltage things say well are all for the cease fire and they will, the further they for many, 30 and 8. during the turn of assembly or for, for the united nations and we produced together, we produce with the allies,

the resolution to stop facilities and provide further humanitarian aid. now, when it comes to international politics, i have to tend to go very frankly, needs that we do not follow any sort of transaction. i'm going to say what we imply is that we have some joint interest with is really because we, we go against 2 key. this is not the case. i have to tell you this on 2 grounds. first, as a matter of principle, because what we do has nothing to do with getting any collateral benefits. from my 1st day in the for the ministry, i said that i would follow it very well, base policy, a very principal policy, and i have for the abided by this. so i do not expect to have any gains from my country's policy. the cert from the thing is that, that now we are in the state of improving our relationship with duty. we have done that lots or for, for a significant steps in order to meet the gate though at the entrance. the truth is

that in the last year we have made it to actually reduce tension in the broad the region. we haven't made it to develop a positive agenda, never, never less turkey. it has continually accused you of minutes rising. the june present, the other ones where it is not happening. so what do we have to say that uh the uh, restrict key relationship is based on international law. it's not something that is determined by the voluntary is to do the venue of, of those states. your international law explicitly proclaims that uh the, the, the islands, the area not allowed to belong to greece. there is a line of i lets um, that uh, protects it fully protected by international law. reese is exercising the full legitimate provides to defense the island central defense of the country. it's obviously when you have a huge army just across the net in a couple of minds,

these funds, you need to be very well prepared. having said that, i need to say that to we are working for peace and i think we have strong explicit evidence that we uh, 150 to be close to us. indeed, our prime minister mutual talk is who's going to run cut on the 15th of may, we're going to have a very productive bought dialogue. this is coming in after months of full spreads, and they're the ones visit to athens. on the 7th of this, on the 7th of december last year, we signed and varying points on the boat from, from the point of view of the symbolic of nature as well as from the practical viewpoints. a political decoration indicating good neighbor realizations and frankly, supplemental funds for you if you could definitely cool this in your eyes. very much our, our approach mom. but still as i mentioned, underlying tensions remain when a recent days took. can you describe the decision to designate parts of the gmc on iron?

you can see as greek nature pox. they say you'll simply exporting issues to push your geo political agenda, namely to assert control over the entire region. it's all increases during that no . because as i said, we're not doing any transaction, i'm totally fix to start with what we're doing and just to preserve our environments and in nature's environments. last week we had the very successful reunion increased. we have the nines, our ocean conference, it's a huge conference about the preservation of waters and oceans worldwide. we've had $125.00 delegations from around the world. it was very important. catherine, we had about 400 commitments amounting to about 11000000000 euros bureau is about among all commitments as well as the establishment of to fox uh, in uh, greece running the on the into on, in the a gmc, uh, what we're saying is that the lowest bach, we'd be devoid of making sure to find on sex rotation. you know that exactly to

preserve the sustainability of the water environments in that age. and this is clearly within the shop runs and children, right? so for, for grease a, there has all those get been dom up, so please allow me to consider that there was another reaction concerning this declaration from, from us. but we have here to agree on something which is important when it comes to environmental sustainability. we cannot to jump on to techs, environmental sustainability is a need for they can monitor if these are global challenge and to take some, some brave decisions and we're going to make those rate is in the interest of smoothing tension. so easing tension. so with your lodge historical neighbour, of course you've had many tension so many years. would it be prudent to, would use your military presence in the likes of the island of costs, for instance, according to, to key a. m, you know, under the 1947 peace treaty,

there shouldn't be any greek troops there in the 1st place, not in my eyes. this is a misreading of the truth is it allows you to know i'm, i'm, i'm a lawyer and then they're making, they can read, treat this the trophies that we preserve the necessary military in order to defend ourselves. and i think there is not a single person that would consume the lease without any sort of uh, offense investigations against that with you. um we are relatively small nation, but um, you know, that we have to defend ourselves. we have to exercise a fully fledged policy or for, for a national defense. and this is where we're going to do a, i'm in an idea of what i would say is that obviously we would need to have in the army. but given the fact that there is an army side on the nose from various neighborhoods, i think that it's necessary to have a strong, okay,

and just have an army also spend perhaps more than any of the country on many, many countries. i mean, back in 2022, greece was spending more in defense than any other country as a portion of g d p. well, those are the 2 percent special required as a, as a native member in your opinion, continued to be money well spent given recent economic tumble increase. of course the country is recovering well, but never the less is this money well spent few of us. there are 2 questions here, whether we're doing when and whether we should do any nation i'm of the different spending. so i wouldn't take a lot to have to start with. what i suggest is yes or having a national defense expenditure, which is above the average. and i have to tell you that this is a totally explicable if someone reads history. unfortunately, we're not the luxembourg and we're not living in a very peaceful neighborhood. and the truth is that we have to be very well

prepared. greece is a country with the greatest seesaw in europe. we have a very loud c, so we have to defend our islands. we have to defend our region. so obviously we need to do some addition. i'm not sure on defense spending, whether this is well deserved. i will tell you that this is a democratic summons. if the electron says that it's money well spent, they need these website and then these governments has for the 2nd consecutive time, a huge selection of victory over 41 percent of the electorate have voted in favor of our program. so i will tell you that there is a photos respects of our program now on the other side of the core. and i would say that the fact that research doing extremely well in the economic sector allow us to just invest not only obviously, national defense,

but don't need another aspect and associates the state and also in investments. greece is expected to have the growth rate of 3 percent next in these kinda year 2024 was bigger. you are, but it's going to be 0.8. so you can see that we have a 3 time um, afraid to do the peas and then bruce the other state. so we are allowed to do some spending. and indeed the maximum of our spending close to social needs and investments. what, what does it, what does it mean to you? to no longer be perceived as the economic sick mind of your, a physical store of self confidence. to start with that process that we had the huge store balance. we have the 10 years of full file stated the policies we have, we had we, we were very close to actually get out of the group. and you know, because of our fiscal situation, and we have to go through a series of, of a very unfortunate incidence,

including the persistence of population we increase population uh, gathering a very difficult situation. one step away from the european union. we model survive and nice thing breaks people's folds up and high level of maturity too. and when it came to the crucial the 2019 elections, the people voted for the government that would bring box res into normality and bring back fries into the european farming. and now were very proud to say such, we have 5 significantly reduced all depths that we have significantly increase our 2 to be and we have a board approval. we have a very sustainable environment for investments. we have a 35 percent increase on exports and we have a 30 percent increase on direct for any investments. and i'm probably going to say that some can know some companies have come to greece and the last 5 years,

including the pfizer will be amazon meta, the only invest increased because they think that rece provides a very strongly foundation for investments. and i would like to actually quoted for through go trying them to potentially investors to check out the grease because this is going to be the economic meet our goal in terms of investments or in the future. probably briefly last question. i want to put this to you because you seem very, very aware of the need for diplomacy. the need to ease tensions that there's probably a very difficult time how optimistic all you of the europe that we know remaining stable, that we have a problem next. and the problem is that, um, there is unusual for, for the way we take decisions with decision making. mechanisms and international organizations seems to be quite obsolete at the moment. what happened was in the afternoon of the 2nd world war, we had an international uh, uh,

not where we have to get together. but we had to develop also a national voice with international organization. then that led to the victor rights policy and the security council of the united nations and choose a european union. victor right apparently has been a huge snag in order to gets to a to adoption of decision. and i think this is going to be the problem for the years to come. the fact that we have in a, an international decision making quits, prohibits the states the international uh organization from taking decisions that are resolved. so we ended at cookchildrens russian and we have 2 visits. that way we take decisions and above all, we have to put the, the, the global, the above the, the states we have to seeing more of the future. we have to think more about the

generations to come. we have to think about shared challenges, such as the climate crisis, the food and security. and we have to think about the children of, of on your costs. go to patrice this, thank you for talking to out just because of funding. thank you so much. the one of the biggest selections of 2024 india is general election. will administer now render movies be taking increase its food across the country? how will economic uncertainty and you've sent employment sway voters in key states and will the media be able to cover the vote freebie and fairly ongoing coverage. but in the, as an action on out, is there a calling attention to any quality, pollution, and extra additional cleanings in kenny as low income communities asylum brother was killed by police. they don't fit the voices,

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