to the election excitement in india in his minutes of kashmir. the 1st paula mentoring vote since its special status was revived. but any of the governing policy isn't contesting a number of key seats? the why is the b j. p skipping these poles? this is inside story, the

header there and welcome to the program. i'm nor a kyle, but we're just going to the polls in indian, administered cash man as the 1st paul them entry elections that surrender moody's government cancel the regions partial autonomy in 2019. and for the 1st time in years people, i'm not boy crossing the votes, the prime minister says repeating caution is special status has health integrated with the rest of the country. he also says it's bolt peace and development of the decades of separate as violence. why then has moody's policy not nominate to the kinds of that the contests, the 3 seats and the muslim majority region will put this question unable to august and just a moment. but 1st, this report by cateel depends how the general elections are highlighting the political tensions in indian and administered kashmir. it's been on edge for years . a decades long uprising against indian rule has killed tens of thousands of people this year for the 1st time since to 1996. the governing beach,

a piece or by the jonathan party, has not fielded a candidate in the muslim majority regent. india, and administered kashmir. has traditionally bully caught at elections following calls from separate test, but opposition candidate for he would recommend puerto wants to change that. this election dining point renting no did and go and does a huge vacuum of 56 us. and this is, this will be an expression, people to vote with their feet come out and you know, express themselves. some analysts say the beach, i didn't nominate a candidate to avoid public defeat and political backlash. they are skeptical them sense and be a scared of piping electrostatic. medias addressed to dom up exploration. is that extra of the things do not get reported as they used to get? so it is not a month to, to maybe not a month see up and whatever it is, not, not

a month see, i'll pick them up in our system until 2019 indians administered kashmir, enjoyed a special status with a separate constitution after it was removed. general and kashmir was divided into 2 federal de ruled areas and was broad under the direct control of new daily. they used always give or didn't get. we will vote with the hard that there is prosperity and cash man. every now and in things get out of hand. we don't want the situation to to bed or violent motors or despite the recent sporadic violence, the b j. p points to the relative stability and peace under the leadership of prime ministers and around promoting. there have been signs of economic growth and a decrease and separates as violence. but voters in india that administer kashmir, say it's cost them their autonomy. patsy a little bit. so again, how does 0 for insight story?

well that's bringing, i guess now and from sure to go north. my buy is a retard political science professor at the university of kashmir, whose research focuses on engine a minutes of cash man and south asian affairs from john moves. and they'll set the as a spokesman for the governing b. j. b, in general of cash man. as in new delhi to come out and offer an academic in 2010, she was one of 3 government appointed members of a panel representing the views of cash married society to india's cabinet committee on security. if i would welcome to all of you. so the 1st of all this ask you why would be a p is not contesting these 3 seats and cache map see, in order to understand what's needed, it doesn't. we have to understand the problem of which means one card of cash mudy is under the illegal completion of august on and what last more than 75 years august by me is finding proxy, why be the india they are supporting tourism,

sending tourism through and instead of using the truck on our kids and 3rd party and it's and you should have done by the agents and was farmed in 1951. we're the only move to the district. we've run india. there should be no separate constitution, different windows, except especially the status to any state. i, ford for 60 years after 60 years, we achieved onto the 19 body, the moving arctic, our 370 and for the integrating cash read with india. so these are the addictions that are being turned off at 2019. for the 1st time for 5 minutes, i didn't talk to you because it, nobody was nation is more important than having fuel seats from do it, or do it or forming the government. this is a huge, better for you, the fight in the which is being forwarded to catch me. product isn't the party has digging. they've gone shows and started the season. that pretty reluctant is the

positive injection from key positive entry goes through trends induction. you don't, we have large abuse of well goes and gets muted, running into next. it doesn't look to the workers about isn't that part in this g cost agencies? they are going to be running into more than 5 back, and we have, well, what about for dis? thank you. so now let's just get a reaction to that. first of all, that i can turn to no, i meant valuable in showing a go. so they'll set the space into the government, the g p. the says that the nation of india is more important at this stage of relations between new delhi and in jim is a cash man. but on the beach i p winning a few things. precinct says up for grabs in cash man. what do you make of that? so it's very difficult for us to understand here. here let me give you some folks from giving notes on understanding of it. but what a comment about some of you have

a concern. often having in the residential market on the changing girl for you to go to the audio and get you a big be a not conducting direct them directly and say that don't understand the majorities, you should be comfortable. how did one understanding of it by lot of people can possibly be confident enough to election. you've got to the doctor doctor exploded itself to the one that uh, the audio. sure. what are the forms in this edition? so the, before we get to read, this is what we bring in rather as one cell to respond to that because it's a 5 point, isn't it? that we have got the b, j. p contesting and john, moving him, do don't many to tell me where you are, but not a muslim majority. kashmir. why is that? that is a bit on statement because we are fighting get it out. so we are fighting on the

seats we have, we may not be having the video, realistic tons of reading it as the election is not for winning and losing only they've got these other decisions which are big on in the interest of the nation. is that more than pardon for those readings suits is not the only criteria and 2 months of 3 months down the line that would be in addition to the assembly of the union territory. baptism 3rd party wouldn't be contesting all the seats, offer simply including all the suits and catch me around. so you're not afraid of elections that does not to the find. my friend was saying was up to date on this is the start to dig decision, which was digging in the interest of the nation. okay, well, i'm sorry. what's the address of the nation? does the spring to see this is a, this is a fine. yeah. there is a fight between the forces which are supporting the separatism. what, what would have been digging the technical support from separate is to anybody think that events, those are the persons with contesting,

that national congress ought to be mended and then there are forces work. uh, taking the initial listing and gender fall would be one that there should be a conscious effort no, from the catch me that they should come forward and defeat the forces of separatism for all the things to go. okay, well that's bringing you at this point. i always have a surprise, was it festival? to have beach. i was not going to contest this the because we did see them outcome the secondary, the local members of the policy was going don't to don't campaigning up until the announcement up. actually, i didn't expect them to contest because it's fairly clear that they would use and they would prefer not to be seen to lose. and i think that there is any strategic elements involved in this decision than that is government. but they don't want to be seen to lose all the seats in the questionnaire valley and the

other arguments i failed to see on together. i don't see how some kind of quiet egypt the support for break away parties like the me body is going to necessarily help or is a strategic decision if, if the gentleman is saying that they want to fit one lot of cushioning areas against another lot of cushion movies. i'm sorry, that is hardly a strategy. and i couldn't say to that to be not only truly, but actually raw the found at the moment. where, ironically enough, we are going to see perhaps one of the higher donalds ever in the session is in this election. and it's wonderfully ironic because in the rest of india, this has been quite a lot lost the election campaign. as the almost every analyst has concluded, okay, in the valley,

this is not lackluster to know. perhaps you can fill us in on why cache marys also interested in this particular phase. when in previous folks i've always been cold, simply costs are yes, that mode completely different particular context. another possibility of the beer, but how not so hard. uh, uh, so i, i left the window defender to move for an actual, uh, sub pump national level. are, are in the airport department, go back a little bit. uh, but should, uh, people are expressing discharge this time because they want to look for the uh, they want to watch the people on your part of the presentation in garcia dot har, dot india. and the river in the connecticut to the golden cache, me it is how much hard i need to put a vendor. do me some general quantity one cost me it does not cover. when the

doctor did not have it did kind of prevent it all. well, got a presentation on last few years, but this time i think deeper into the parts bit and you did an expression to do that because it doesn't do show that it will do, but you're pointing to in just so i and just send it to him okay, send it, we'll set the time is run domady visited this region in last. that was his 1st visit since 2019 i put it to you, but perhaps that didn't go as well as he expected. and that played in to his decision on the beach, a piece decision not to run in the cash. me a elections. you know, that is up. so do, do funds run the prime minister. visited catch me the stadium near the program about certain project in fact. and there were more than one that close. i'm just what in attendance in different districts of catch me,

which was fine. but if you do a conference, that is actually the wrong notion. there's the response was response was i would rather make even more than what people have taught in catch me. but until then, after due to the 19 1st thing, but i'm just there visiting it and just meet the people who are on pumped up. you'll see what is the crown the other day in guest meet after due to the 19 present data is most on parenting. the violence has come down to minimum the people that live stream and good confidentiality of the tourist are coming and next in guest. know everybody is happy this, this electronic thought would be part of the issue of the development. the don't get to get to the moment. let me just bring it in, right. the i'm not knows it's fast point, isn't that that buttons has lessened in kashmir since 2019 um, it's so difficult for him to prove either way is a think. you know,

if you look at the see goes suddenly stone, 3rd thing is is down to or. ready 0 me back, if you look at a 10 to the attack, then you are not going to see a great decline. i'm, i'm very mind that cushion you again has a much higher security presence then the 2 sides in the den. yes, the piece process earlier. so my argument would be that it's, you want to actually judge balance score. you have to also look at whether your need for security presence is low or no. that is the best test of whether you are moving to which piece. and if you apply doctors, then you will see that it was only in the years off, 2004 to about 12 that you had a really sharp,

significant decline in violence. it then went off. when you had the b, j, p, p, d, p, coalition government in, in the smooth. and you have to be just yet the center of violence actually increased in 201720161718. and so when we talk about it being law, quite often the future be spokespeople are using the c goods for the use of 20161718. okay, all right, let's, let's. so the respondents of that, because that is why the says customer is one of the wells most heavily. i'm going to try zone if the level of violence has come down, why does it remain? so a r c, when we talk about the declining data resume, i don't know from the figures are being taken by it. mr. i back on my chief has to come. be sure, you know, good to change in get should be you have to come to so you're not going to see the

change in the values of the people they are mentioning says that the tax on security forces, i'm not decline is not the figure. it's it is, it is almost gone. it doesn't make any money. now. it is not the same situation and we're not talking about drug and $1617.00, we are talking about the situations often 1990. there is a see change in cash. we have no trust me. it is. you have not money. only yesterday there was a big demonstration in progress, but not gonna break the trust me, but people build onto dry in india. why are the people there wanting to join india because they are for the bridge, the less bringing north to get his stuff is new on this particular point? no, i can read the right. it says that the figures of levels of bon is coming from the home ministry. what is the security threat that in kashmir today

data? how did the incidence of, of all measured why learners dropped on the new window either one or no, but uh, but the question is, should i be logged in? if tentative spanish or not about everybody or that us traditional student? she dared toward him, you weren't going to be sure to have help with the people all across that agent that aspire to partner, scared toward o for partition, for the 2 part. that is, you don't what i wanted to how i could go on then addictions in local assembly. doctor folks are not happy as long as they would be just they do know as it goes, did someone did the has vision does. it's not really integrated the hard on days to call them on. but i think the just a lot of the right time did the bones that be able to. i mean,

mostly i guys all the time, you mostly have to do this with the changes. i'm the grandpa board because they have an instrument only means you can use them, but you did or didn't come to the same thing and hopefully this, this is all for him to be qualified. what type of piece is it the roger is we want to talk about these ways the elections because so neil brought it all palette. he said that within 2 to 3 months, that would be we to know elections. assembly elections in kashmir, moody has promised to restore state to get these elections has been delay several times before. do you believe the beach i pay when they say they will allow regional elections within the next few months when let people do it this way? this is the order by the supreme court. the supreme court of it, yeah,

had said that elections have to be held before the end of september. and by the way, in the supreme porch, the solicitor general law of india argued on behalf of obviously the union as well as the states administration, that the security situation was such that they could not restore state could. so, you know, on the one hand, in the supreme called, they're arguing, security is bad. and uh, on the other hand, in the public domain, they're arguing that they have achieved the gray. d one is, you know, attempted to say, please make up your mind and please release the pop up. he goes to show one way or another. because if you have misled the supreme court, the supreme court is extremely clear in saying that they are only accepting the union administration argument of a delay of state to the on the grounds of security. or that was the only ground that they were accepting it on. and they have said that they owe, therefore,

that as soon as the elections are held, the state assembly is election which have to be before the end of september. they are hoping that states would, would be restored very soon off. so now your question will be, did the follow through on what the board has directed them to do? i can only hope that they will, it will be cried calling to defy an order of the supreme court as one hopes that they won't find the other ways around. but we don't know what will happen until the new parliament is in place. okay, you're not real quick, that's not a problem. and then the inside story down the line. so now set the, i want to bring all the was back to the food that's going to be taking place. so over the next few days, how free i'm fat is this both going to be that in the region because we've seen restrictions on media. on freedom of expression al jazeera actually has not being

drawn to v vi's as to cover the election within the country. so can people trust that this vote is going to be free and fast and that is under person guarantee that the addictions would be fair and don't forget addictions. there is no restriction, some of the media and media is defaulting each day. the media is the 14 or against the government. you're not stopping them, be anybody can come and see that is i don't think there is any addition not even complained from any party, much less from i'm so you know, the addictions would not be fit if you were given contesting. you would have been saying this thing to me that the selection is unfair because because if he wants to win this means um, by other means we have marked in the free. but you're going to ensure that the addictions will be held for you in fair number one. number 2, assembly elections. this will bring board said that the eviction so would be headed in friday, september, and be stand by 8. but the addictions will be here to the assembly by september end,

and that would be a government often want to just read off the people of germans this week, which would be due be elected. the 4th turn of a reduction in the union due to the, to the state as it was before the, to the 19 is obviously coming spring, which has been made by the central government and up sort of the 5 new mentoring for the. so think order for india onto the seat situations not been c. n situation turning around. these are 2 different things that would be addiction. so for assembly of union did her duty, there is no doubt about that. after the union took her to the elections and the government would be found in the union donor to be done, this isn't going to be taken for formation of us, of the state from the union donor to the i don't think that will be on on do it in that also. okay. nora let festival, although any complaints from within the region and the way the elections have been carried out in the run up to them and the way they all set to be carried out in the next few days. you know,

i think the other certainly would be if you had heard it this time and for different parties not to participate in, one of the zip is not but spending in direct them further. but kids, the more most, almost all the most part people participating in the election. i don't think that has been completed on data, but oh, so what else? uh we, we loved to the intern barge and actually let you know, i don't, i think uh next time with this type of people that will work to parts. they do not have that number. don't be on to the post. and when do you do? i mean, they are going to be p and p, and i like them. okay. all right, let's pick up on some of those of a point where it says that you have a cash minute. the reason will be restored it statehood to the situation before 2019 it raises the question why the government repealed also cool. 370 which case significant autonomy to the engine and business of customer region. why it repealed it in the 1st place?

yeah, i don't think that the uh, any arguments that are given on the basis of the situation or does she need to on to watch your actual to the tune system please that the b, j, b and the resources before them, the jun song before that the mazda by, i'm so i'm on opposed article the 370. so it's been a long standing feature if he demands that it should be road back when the, at the movie administration had its 2nd done with a very large majority. they folks that they put a roll it back. it's as simple as that. now the way that they do that, we are all aware of what they did. they, uh they imposed and knocked out on the stage. they arrested more than 5000 political leaders. they, uh, and i had talked to, they had the,

the longest internet shut down in history. all of this, we know that these were the message that were used for road by august to 370. so now, what does movie do about cache man c vivo? to complete the scene, catch me if we want the people of cause me to new really and there should be no debt or there should be no separatism because of why this is a mistake and improves the 19 was all out of town. so for this reason, reason for creating the freedom to separatism, interest me off to because and 19 there is a completed version of the democrats rebooted. yeah, i don't think that the stage is going to turn back right. there is no party to be in guess meeting which is talking to a more practical 370 these are these people in okay,

uh well having a bit of trouble with your line that lets just put it in nor i fled to pick up on that point is anyone talking about 370? i mean, singles rises. that is not being part of any election campaign. what the cash mary's want for the future of the people who may not be dr. billboards helpful articles need someone to be acceptable for the process to get the work done. i want to double door, local participation and local guns and all that locally. i'd like to comment about that out there all across the street, even though we just bought the 1st one. you might have cash, mr. joel on the dock and catch me that. that is aspirational part you got to do is to godaddy all online. a good deal for jobs dot my it people on the deer. so if you had to, the doctor is gonna be sent to uh, debit. or how do we already bought it from? uh google, but you won't get scanned over to sydney about okay. the drawers. oh gosh,

the people are very trying to do on are they do presented beacon data house to raise the i think the local governments are going to take up this issue and the board and wondering about present the electronic part is the district from the region. uh, several of them on the go, these 2 are okay, because we will have to leave all the discussion today. i'll be very interesting to see the outcome of this version. then shall we be revisiting this very interesting issue in the future here on inside story. many thanks to our guests today. northwood baba samuels at the end, right, that coma. and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting a website that's out, is there a dot com, a valid discussion to you guys? well, facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on x a homeless as a inside story from me, nor kyle,

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