didn't expect that post testing in annapolis would be so dangerous and that the right to demonstrate would come on to so much pressure. video stake inside the university show not only police using force, but a group wearing mask as well. university estimates losses are as high as $1600000.00. missy international says social media posts from dutch politicians like fi ride lead a he, it will. this is freedom party, dramatically one most votes and elections. last year. a few of anger and tensions by calling students come and, and to submit to of what we've seen in recent days. it's not happening in effects. you, i'm, there's growing support for, for right politicians and politics in the netherlands. and this is a, it's a direct and immediate threat on the rights and freedoms. we are sort of for use to internet lens and um and the city is, is, is very, very committed to is 225 back because there's,

there's something at stake right now. students say they're not to bother by the damage done to the university building. why wouldn't really all the people who are outraged of the damage done here in all universities is, what is this outrage when we talk about all palestinian brothers and sisters? why are you know, outraged about what's happening that despite police violence and public criticism, students say they feel encouraged to continue. and out of that city, students have protested without any police intervention, steadfast and algebra. i'm so that the, the french government is expected to declare a state of emergency in the pacific on and to retrieve new caledonia french president manuel macro household, an urgent cabinet meeting after full people were killed in protest. the civil unrest was triggered by controversial changes due to be made to its voting system. the french citizens who lived in the territories mold and 10 years to vote in the

collections, but least as of the indigenous population known as the conic se. they the move would we could the representation as well, staying in front of nationwide non hunters underway for escape prisoner after an ambush on a prison called boy into the 2nd day protest is all rallying in front of several prisons and friends in solidarity with the families of 2 prison guards killed on tuesday, dozens of prison employees gathered in the main court yards of the prison in count where the victims with based government killed the gods and injured 3 others during the ambush on a prison come forth. mama tamara escaped during the incident. we'll have more on that story and the news was somebody's. i'd done in a few minutes time. but next it's upfront here on, i'll just over to service the . if you're watching this pre recorded report, then al jazeera has been banned in the territory, all is, well,

we'll just scream or be any sway me when my country is closing down inspection towards the networks only because what additions thinking here, this decision puts other networks working in the occupied was time for inside israel proffer also, independent journalist would be targeted. we, i thought 0. we shouldn't be aware of that as a badge of honor to be banned by the government that stands indicted for general size. but the international court of justice as palestinians flee rafa following israel's latest assault on the guys a strip will challenge the support of israel, who believes is really military is contacting guys. it has been just for the 1st in march. you, as president joe biden said that an invasion of rough up would be a red line in the united states, a support for israel. so we'll divide the administration finally, take decisive action terrain in israel. and with

a growing discontent within the administration itself, have an impact on policy will be asking those questions to a former spokesperson for the us state department. last, we became the 1st weird diplomat to reside in protest of bite and support for israel. this was headliner, colorado the hello. all right, thank you so much for joining us upfront. thank you so much for having me, mark. how like you, you've had an extensive career in us foreign service. last week you became the 1st career diplomat to resign over the united states as policies toward israel, particularly the continued assault on guys of now israel siege, of course, has led to the desk to more than 34000 people. and it's destroyed much of the territory. after 18 years in the state department. how did you arrive at this decision? honestly marked it was an agonizing decision i never intended to resign. when i joined the foreign service, i expected it to be my career for the rest of my life,

really until retirement. but unfortunately, presidents golf, the policy made it absolutely impossible. it was an indefensible policy. and it's, it's a violation of international law of domestic law. and then the conscience, i could not continue amplifying this policy because for one it hurt us national security interest. and i was able to document that and it was clear that that was the case throughout the air world. it was also causing a generational cycle of pilots, as you noted the devastation for the palestinians, but also it failed to achieve any objectives to keep this really safer or get the hostages back. a. it was a failed militaristic policy. it continues to be a field policy and i could not in good conscience, stay within the system and promote this policy. israel has begun its invasion of the southern guys, a city of 5 in march. you as president joe biden had called rafa

invasion, a red line for the united states that it was a step too far. that would prompt the us response. now the is your eyes crossed the red line? do you think that the by the administration is going to change is the current stance. i certainly hope so, and i have to say that the german netanyahu announced the invasion of the house right after secretary blinking was wheeled up from his trip into israel, where he again reiterated the us position, that they should not go into the, considering the civilian population but this is the frustration that's been with this policy this entire time. it's been just words. and diplomacy is an arts and you have to use your leverage and we haven't used any of the leverage that we have on as well. and so it is time now for president biden to take action. words are no longer sufficient. now is the time to leverage our influence by conditioning

military aid at the very least, putting a sense of weaponry in line with us law. you know, at this point, there are many people who will look at the recent developments. for example, this week, it was reported as us has halted the delivery of munitions to israel. the people who say, well, this is just a superficial move with this is just public relations that they're still going to try it out. those talking points that you mentioned that there are, that there's still to be empty, promises and link uh, you know, statements about buying this back door debates with nothing. yahoo! but at the end of the day, the status quote is going to maintain, how hopeful are you that things are changing and or, or, or, or not in this in march. it's been, it's, it's very difficult. uh, i want to be helpful. i want to believe that they're going to take tangible steps, but at the same time, i've been in the service long enough to know that i'm not going to hold my breath

until i actually see action. the whole was significant, but it was also a drop in the bucket and it was a policy shift. there continues to be rhetoric coming out of the white house and out of the, the department saying that we're going to continue. and we're going to amplify military assistance. now is not the time for that. then ministration is to wake up and realize this military policy has been a failure on all fronts. have the same something to have it is in that vein, right? if it's is unethical, if it's in humane all the people or die, if it is bad for us security interest, if it is bad for israel's interest is all the things you've just said. why are we continuing with the status, quoting this, the $1000000.00 question, right? because there's been ample analysis coming from the field a bit. this public knowledge at this point from diplomats not just me, but from multiple sources. and even if the under us government, i mean for every interest has every single international organization calling for

a sustain ceasefire, yet the by didn't ministration and present. invited himself continues to insist on this policy. our role as diploma is to provide information to washington that helps guide policy, but clearly the foreign policy is being made elsewhere. i fundamentally believe that our system domestically is, has issues. politicians should not be able to profit from war. for example, the people deciding whether or not we send military assistance to a foreign country should not be the ones also getting campaign contributions from the arms industry or from lobbying groups that represent foreign governments. as a diploma, i have to have, i had to have an open book. my life was a complete open book. they know everything about us as rightly so, because we're serving the people, we're serving the country. we can't be making any profit off of our work. personally, we're doing everything we're doing for the country and for the people in the united

. busy it should be the same for politicians and as a diploma, i could not help the super, frustrated with the realities of our domestic political process and it's undue influence on our foreign policy. the speaking of policy, internal criticism of us policy is not necessarily new. in fact uh you said before that robust discussion is what leads. 1 to change is what keeps the wheels turning . it's the norm with respect to the situation in gaza. however, you've mentioned that officials are afraid to voice disagreement against that prevailing policy. why is there a kind of climate of fear around this issue as it does, is coming from the top down directly from the top down. and when there is a situation like that, which in my 18 year career has been unprecedented, it's very difficult to shift things or even provide

a contrary in analysis. so when i voice concerned repeatedly, i was silenced. i was sideline. there were actions taken against me. it has a chilling effect. so when i hear about your or deal, when i hear about your resignation and the reason why i'm left to wonder and i know many people watching are left to wonder. is it even possible to change u. s. foreign policy in israel from within the i don't want to be hopeless. we are seeing a lot of churn within the department. clearly and within the interagency, there was supposed to be a determination today from the department to congress, whether or not as well was violating human rights. that submission has been delayed indefinitely, which i wonder why, but there is, there are a lot of good people in the department trying to do good work and trying to push back on the administration in ways that were advocating for the united states at

the end of the day that's our job or advocating for us interest. so what our role is is to help the secretary or the president make informed decisions. and we're doing everything we can to do that. but then at the end of the day they have, they have to make the call and they have to take action, not just change, right, right. hello, right, thank you so much for joining us and upfront. thank you so much like the israel's war on gaza has been going on for 7 months. and just hours after from mazda agreed to a cease fire proposal, israel laurence to ground invasion and seize control of the border crossing in or off, or where within $1000000.00 palestinians had been sheltering. meanwhile, here in the united states the correct down against campus protesters, calling for an end to us support for israel is more on gaza. continues, students have faced violence from the police. they've been arrested, they've been suspended, and some have even been expelled. jeremy,

now to discuss this is about to younger sar. guarantee is the opinion editor at newsweek and believes that is really military's conduct and gaza has been just thank you for joining us. let's talk about what's going on right now. israel has killed nearly 35000 palestinians number that includes more than a 13000 children the head of the world food program now has stated that then the northern guys entered a mode of full blown famine. you made the case that israel had the right to respond to the october 7th for master techs. at this point though, do you see israel's response as proportional? yeah, absolutely. um, 1st of all, the numbers that you cited we get from had asked which, you know, has an interest in inflating the numbers. in fact, how mass itself released a report on telegram about a month ago in which it stated that it cannot account 411000 of the people that they thought had been killed. effectively reducing the number to 22000 by how mass

is own count. what proportion it means is, it's not the proportion of civilian casualties on either side that we are comparing proportion and a war is the number of civilian casualties, proportionate to the operation. and when you think about the number of have mass militants, israel has killed relative to the a tragic civilian casualties. it's very clear that that number is waste in the realm of what we have considered to be just war for, you know, modern history that you. so a couple of points 1st. um the, the guys in health ministry historically has been very accurate with its depth reports. they held up to you and numbers within 4 percent of they've helped to israel's own scrutiny. in the past, they fill it out to the west bank, palestinian authorities a numbers, and of course they're not friends with from and so with, with israel,

whether it's the west bank, whether it's outside international bodies, these numbers tend to be pretty accurate as far as the the 11000 number that you mentioned, i read the telegram in english and in arabic. and it wasn't that they couldn't account for the bodies. they just want to additional information, identifying those people. so i just wanna be clear, i want people to think that somehow somebody started missing 11000 bodies in the beat, inflated the numbers. there's no evidence of it. but to your more fundamental point, which i think is an interesting one. we've seen some things that seem to me outside the boundaries of just war and countless human rights observers have documented how the attacks in you guys have been somewhat indiscriminate, a residential buildings being found, schools, a refugee camps, hospitals, you know, even journals have been targeted. how do you make sense of it? i think the word targeted there is being misused. there are always tragic tragic occurrences in any war and what we have to what we have to determine

in the case of israel and gaza is, are these war crimes, or is this just more which is always horrific? yeah, there are always tragedies in war. israel requires for any military attack to independently verify pieces of intelligence to attack a building or even more so for a school or for a civilian building. you know, i'm curious what you think of the fact that israel has not entered a single hospital in gaza in which they did not find evidence, but how mass had been using it to a certain degree. now you might say, they've inflated the number of things they would have expected to find there. that they said there was going to be, you know, some huge compound and that maybe they didn't find it. and some of these cases, the ones that was on the box of dates i was like, you know, if i look under a, a hospital like i ship them for example, and i see, you know, minimal evidence of,

of, of, from mass presents there. it makes me say, or this isn't a military target but, but that, but there's a bigger point here that i want to get at which your point, for example, are israel's october 9th straight. when did you buy the refugee camp and killed 39 people according to the un office of high commission on human rights is real, provided no military objective. they provided no advanced warnings. this is an example where this seems to be indiscriminate and certainly outside the boundaries of law. the vast majority of the operation has been based on not a single button on to independently verify pieces of evidence that a situation is used by some us any military way. now, of course, how would you explain these really represent me? 39 people's a large number, how would you explain it? then? this is a war, right? but there was no military objective and no advanced warning or those those 2 things can be defensive. but um i, i'm not, i'm, i can't recall that specific event, but i can, i mean, there was, even from his rails point of view,

they killed 3 hostages in an accident during one of these operations. that obviously was not intentional, right? it would make sense to me, they're killing 39 people with no military objective or advanced warning seems different to me but, but let me give you another example of october 31st is really a military air strike happens when a 6 story apartment building a new the new sonata refugee camp in central gas is that one killed a 106 civilians, including 54 children, according to human rights watch. no evidence of a military target in the vicinity of the building at the time of the attack and is really far as of effort, no justification for the attack and the use of large numbers. how do we explain that? does that give you pause at least no, because you know, this is a war and in a war you have to go on the evidence that you have on the intelligence that you are there. also, you evidence, and the vast majority of israel's operations and guys that have been based on a lot of intelligence, they've significantly weekend, how mazda is ability to organize and to accommodate against them. that i hear you

saying the majority, but i give you another example in february, a group of you in special preparatory to express their concern about the quote deliberate targeting an extra traditional killing of palestinian women and children in places where they sought refuge or while fleeing some of them were reportedly holding white pieces of cloth when they were killed by these really army. again, there were every sort of claim that this is the just war and that, you know, bad things happen in war. there are just numerous instances where they seem to be clear violations of the rules of war, clear violations of international law, clear war crimes being committed. is it possible that 2 things are true, right? that there are some unfortunate casualties that happened. maybe the house that situation that you're describing. but at the same time that also israel has committed some more crimes here. and there's probably at the end of this going to be evidence that israel has committed some more crimes. there has never been a war in which they were not work. crimes committed to that does not get to the heart of whether this is a just war and whether as i keep saying,

the vast majority of the operation has been done. according to the rules of international law, but of course there has never been award without war crimes and there will be evidence of those. the shooting of the 3 hostages is of course, you know, very good example of one that even i think is where i would acknowledge. so do support then a full scale investigation of is really work arms. of course, i mean, why would we not, who would not want that? you'd be surprised how many guests have had one who say just the opposite. let's talk about these campus partners. i wanna talk to that because that's obviously something that's incredibly important in the united states. conversation right now, you refer to students protesting as quotes into fido revolutionary wannabe's saying ok, i hear you having a bit. i mean, it's an interesting try to frame you say that they're a privilege, quite cast, engaging and self indulgent narcissism where they chat and to find a revolution, right? like, what would you, i mean, they check their check, that's their chance, right? so i'm laughing because of the one of these part because like a someone who lived through the actual empty bottle like, you know, they need, it's like, i don't think that they're actually dangerous,

but i think that they wish they were in a way because they chance into father revolution, right? that's like what, what, what do you think that mean by like vibes or um, it's essentially course, i guess what i was curious about was you were quitting the anti war protests to narcissism and self, and don't ask, well, that's a problem. i'm yeah, yeah, cuz cuz i, i'm outraged about it actually because testing is deserve. but advocates and this is not that. and the reason i know that is because i look at what doctor king did, which was appealed to the common humanity in every person and say you are like me and i am like you. and i know that together this nation is better than what we are right now and can be. and he managed to change the nation to me, what these people are doing is the opposite. they're not showing up and saying, you know, the occupation is unbearable, right? how can we create a situation where israel will no longer be doing that?

how can we convince the most amount of people in the us but also in israel, which is like the stakeholder here and the person who has looked into it and see it has control over it. so that this is the wrong way. and here is a different path, they are not trying to appeal to the broadest swats of the american people and changed our minds. they're doing the opposite. they're intentionally using extremely violent, vile, and triggering language to limit the number of people who are going to agree with their cause to limit it so that they can feel moral superiority over everyone who doesn't agree with them. and i think that that's already just a couple couple thoughts. um the, the 1st thing i think the difference with the king argument is that in okay was, was convincing his fellow citizens. yeah. mystically on it kind of civil response to structural injustice internally. i think that's different than kings response states of the vietnam war. he wasn't challenging the campus protest when king died and 68, he wasn't saying we shouldn't be on college campuses protesting the war. it was our

war. we are not fighting in god a funding it though, and that's, that's that's, that's literally our, that's the argument. are we the just to me that's the argument of the students are making. they're saying that we're funding it to our tax dollars. we are sending weapons, and the universities that they're at are literally investing in these real estate. and so they're calling for our divestment movement. they're saying we're complicit and we want to stop by complaints. but what we are actually doing, and this is the way the vast majority of american c a is we are helping an ally that does actual work for as a bad majority. yeah. 80 percent of americans back israel over on us. yeah. but, but, but 55 percent disapprove of visuals wash in gaza, a 70 percent support a permanent ceasefire. and the escalation, the bylaws does not support a permanent fees. and that's and yahoo, i support department and fees by use abuse and not this minute, but you need the war if that is not what they're talking. no, of course the boards pays you guys for anything like that. it was not saying that

is what they're saying. they're saying we like it and we want peace, but not a permanent ceasefire. everybody want to say no to that. people who believe that a permanent ceasefire is not possible because they believe that from us is perpetually violent. and that the only way they can, we can be controlled is by israel, maintaining a back to control and effectively in apartheid domination of all the historic power . so that's what lots of personal logs but, but again, 52 percent, believe it and us commissions, heart weapons shipments to israel until israel stops the attack on the back of the o. it's entail israel stops. the question was, should america, i mean the, the pull that i thought should america cease halls, shipments of weapons to israel until israel stops hosting humanitarian aid? we don't. uh gotcha. and it's just not accurate. i'll read the questions. okay. that is the study that i saw with there's 2 more than one study and the one i read and i'm calling from says do you think that the us should stop weapon shipments, the israel until israel discontinued it's attacks on the people of guys that input

and 52 percent said yes, because the 2010 percent the people of gauze are they are on how mass and how massive infrastructure and how mass militants. but then they're there been other people who have, who have made the claim that we're not at war with, from as what war with the state of guys, we're at war with the palestinian people say stupid things. i'm yeah. but some of them are in the people and the people in our government phase different things the john bolton, for example, we can't just say all people say crazy things. if you're the, if you're the architect inform policy that's different. i'm telling people in the cabinet are saying this stuff. yeah, you have to show that it's had an actual impact on the way that the war is being executed. and what i did earlier i, i showed all the different, the refugee camps, the hospitals, the indiscriminate strikes that are killing dozens of people. i'm just going to give you an example here, a retired major general uh, your island. uh, also former head of national security council in the current advisor to the defense of ministers is this isn't just, i'm retired guy was just talking from his chair. he clearly stayed on november 19th,

that the whole guys and civilian population was a legitimate target. and that, quote, severe epidemics in the south of the guys district will bring victory closer. so even the epidemics and then in the, in the south, are seen as evidence of defeating the quote unquote interviews. epidemics aren't happening just from mazda mazda. is it just carvings, a mazda and just getting 6? he said israel is not fighting against a terrorist organization, but against the state of guys, the business, the advisor to the minister of the place. you deny that how mass has a political wing that runs the state of gaza. i mean the state meaning, like the political wing of had us. here's the, here's the problem. if you say we're fighting against all of the palestinians, they're all a legitimate target. and i'm not finding it from ask them if i, the one should say everybody's a target. i don't think that's what it meant to it, but i don't need to defend that. i need to defend the id f operation. and for the connection between i,

there is no connection between that because i know that the idea is not responding to what the square, no, looking at how r, as in history. oh, how the do this isn't, this isn't the charge. it doesn't get off my law, this is enough advisors administer to what the idea of has done on the ground. yeah . it's a fact that they have issued millions and millions of warnings. i mean, this has never happened in the history of warfare before, where a military is literally telegraphing to the enemy, what they are about to do in order to warn civilians to get them out of harm's way . that has never happened before in the history of warfare. but a military is literally warning the enemy to protect the enemy's civilian what, what we have seen it before. we've seen it in sir, we've seen in the rocks. right. so the degree that these are really great and i was, i was respect your initial claim, which is that no, my armies ever done it, but the 2 millions and millions and millions of messages, warnings, multiple warnings, literally allowing their targets to escape to protect the civilian population,

i mean, does that not have any merit with you? do not think that's deserving of like, it's like recognition that people should recognize that that happens. so. so i think this isn't extraordinary to get to allow civilian population. so normally the extent to which the idea of go with is extraordinary. all right, but unfortunately we're out of time, so we have to leave it there by the younger started on. thank you so much for joining me on upfront. everybody that's our show upfront will be back the this is a front line where there is little life after more than half a year of hostilities that began when hezbollah opened up a front to help. it's like from us in casa, we are traveling with members of the united nations peacekeeping force. they're on patrol with lebanon's army. we are here to support them and these government to

take control of the situation. but the army is not the dominant force here. has the law has a strong presence even before this late, this confrontation, nearly 100000 lebanese, have left their homes and livelihoods. it's a similar situation on the other side of the border, who says the cost of or official a loss that are already in the billions of dollars. although the concept is still largely contained and confined to the, for the region, has been lost as the conflict won't end until there's a ceasefire in casa, but possibly not even then. because isabel is threatening a wider war, if border security doesn't improve of the

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