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recreating the things they see every day, but in the occupied westgate, what passes for me seems to the eyes of its children. can see more of it. we are playing cuz we're in isn't out of the details of the game on the commission on the rates of it. so us act as the soldiers and others of fighters and someone gets when the, the army comes in and codes him, then they sold the house. and then there are classes scenarios acted out against a backdrop that is all to real. the panic of running battles, the injured left in the street, civilians used as human shields were taken prisoner by his regular troops. they take cover, reboot and prepare for the next boom. with toys often coupled together from scraps their prized possessions, the way they move is almost tactical. faster. well, what other children learn from movies?
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these youngsters have learned from real life even rebuilding in the aftermath of us really rates all the time. so i mean, how do we talk about more about the incursions, they want to protest and fight. they are very influenced by whatever happens around them. they see young people being killed target to the nearest dykes and they ask, why should we have to live like this? we must defend ourselves. so that's, so i called to just say this is a form of healing. playing for 10 more to cope with the trauma of living in a wheel one doesn't use playing for different things. first of all, just to able to control situations where the field that i'm able to to control. because children normally feel headed this, comparing to their parents, they're expressing what they're seeing and what they're suffering. because even if they are laughing, it's spark of their environment. a life of this conflict where they feel helpless. and sometimes they feel of the banning or the others around them who's supposed to
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provide them with protection on helpless, also unable to protect them. it is about processing pain and having some agency and their own lives. therapist say their behavior is not necessarily find their circumstances are within their games. they are free because in the imagination of palestinian children, they get to decide who wins the same. beside the oldest era, remo loved the occupied westgate palestine. well that set for me, the stones here today for now. remember, you can always find a much more on our website. that's honestly, you're a dot com. i'll be back with much more news for you here on al jazeera officer, the bottom line with all the nations from israel, and all the a week to look at the world's top business stores. how much is the rebuilding going
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to cost? who pays from global markets and economies of small businesses have just started seeing and station come down and how it affects the lives? how big a problem is going on? food insecurity counting the cost? oh no. just sierra. hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. is real doesn't want a permanent ceasefire in gaza then what does it really want? let's get to the bottom line, the israel's leaders and see if they won't accept the permanency speier and there were on gaza and may have intensified their attack on rasa. that town is the last refuge for more than a 1000000 palestinians who been pushed there as this real expense. it's warren gaza, with no end in sight. us president joe biden said that israel's plans to attack proper quote just wrong and he paused the shipment of weapons to israel. but how real are the tensions between israel and its biggest sponsor, the united states and can, is real, continue with war and gods with impunity?
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well into the future today we're talking with daniel lee, the president of the us middle east project and former advisor to be is really government. daniel, thank you so much for talking with us today. we just go right to the news president biden has put a pause on the shipment of arms and weapons and 2000 bond pound bonds is real. do you see this is a serious inflection point in the relationship, or is this just a minor speed bump the states? it all depends on whether he's willing to sustain and expand this. well, we haven't been cold. last fall. is that stuff and all events being revisited and will be sent to the time be steve i to show you at all i and many people watching will question well that how will they doing still sending to 1000 pound bowls and a heck of
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a lot of other ordinance to his route love seemed to what we quite clearly see easy to have a staging stitch. ready ration where he's read, there's no big targeting with precision. we see north poles all the latin ray i program being you see the highest court in the well being to national court of justice. issue provisional measures, all the south african initiative regarding violations of the genocide, which k provisional ledges to prevent irreparable damage to the palestinian civilian population. yes, maam, soft of that decision to us will still sending the ship. what's the price of the bite and very positively acknowledged to things in not seeing an interview for us, but then they would have been both crimes can be used. 2000 pounds balls and secondly, the knobs and ball going to wait for it. okay, put that aside for say,
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the real questions going full? will these ministration tell us that as the slope begins to go in so right, but right now it's rarely say it's a limited operation. washington is a guest image operation. the nothing young busy, no hurry. and this feels like precisely the beginnings of something divided administration has said, don't do as back continues as we still don't see the entry of the kind of humanitarian assistance that is and that's not. sonya says down the prices and says, we have to weapons, we're continuing shame on you for challenging us of this way. and as we hear the echo chamber inside, the us go up to the press. will the president be deemed to muddy the waters and save cold sees rose boil goes uh something we still back. we don't really see
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uh rough uh as being uh, having cross a tipping point cause i must have still to blame for the fact. there's no deal even though i said yes, interesting. now will the see that my team all will receive the president say to he's ready the prime minister. i'm the suit the power here. you are undermining us . these off potential violations. we cannot be pump, so we are not going to send you the weapons because from day one of these complex fruita weeks and the months is roku and both sustained this without that not just political diplomatic casa, but that very concrete american military support. and the key point, right? that if the ministration isn't capable of sustaining this for a period of probably several weeks, then nothing yahoo will carry on and he will fail. he has the measure of the
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pressed estate. nothing you know has a problem. we could all pre decide relief because the war will have to wind down. that's the question i want to ask you about an article you wrote, i commend our audience to read it called seeing gaza clearly. and in this, in this article, you talk about the struggle of really jewish identity, both within is real but also among american jews. and the divides that, that you were seeing generationally. ok. and you also go to the question of a, a in party jewish core at the basis of many of these college protests we just discussed. and i'd love to know from you what you think gaza in this crisis is doing to jewishness in america to is really identity at home. how, how are things being worked? we have said this protest movement as we get from what we are
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reading here. reading, seeing the church contingent as a, as a cult may well be the 2nd largest alongside palestinians, arab americans, that's a significant thing. and we saw the president in what we're double weiss of being a relatively standard and the pull speech on all the calls from edwards. but he said something that that had alarm bells ringing for me. which was he takes now about design is a be anti semitic about these protests be anti semitic. he doesn't talk about the attacks on that to students by some of these real sports. but les paul you know, of course i can understand that the palestinians design,
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this is the us with the display sleep, the ethnic cleansing, a history of the denial that writes. i don't know how you can most not be opposed to design as a, as a palestinian, but in the jewish space you know, those of people, we pride ourselves on constantly grappling with text of viewing, debating on show that stuff unique to the jewish there is a strand of jewish, ultra also toxic, which sees the existence while they sign the state of israel as coal street to their reading of jewish text. you called have jewish silver di, absent the coming of the messiah. that's that you will have a cohort of jewish people who see actual existing design. that's just what has
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happened in the 75 plus years. what it is meant as an upfront to better understanding of the coal values, the cool epic they and we, derives from our, below me to a jewish people and a jewish history and a universe style, etc. of that never again. so nobody mind they that all jews who maybe don't, how do i do those positions? look, this is very practical way and say the, you know, the id ology. what was that interesting to page? but is this real doing what's written on the 2 is rotating the world, a safer place for re jews as to what use on the outside by going down this ever more stream journey to a place where it's, it's in the adult at the international criminal court i've been special court of justice. let's just have a pragmatic conversation is disloyalty. so the idea that you can create this before
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the end is of is an acceptable form of contemporary jewish expression. that is a top down full full place for a political debate to be and for a president today to be. and it says insults to many jews, kinds of jewish history. and it's the thing we have to recognize these people don't go home. it's not going to hold because was on the table today, and this is fascinating. it's not, you know, they're out. they say the dispute settlement is going to fall. the idea that actually existing design is, is working. that's what some of the like for so i'm really important as well as we're having not to back i would urge because there's nothing more legitimate. i would argue nothing. mobile, jewish protesting against crimes and genocide and inhumanity. but i
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would urge people to make sure that purchase exist for people to traverse, but there is a way for jewish people until people who besides the entity. so the issue with this router has been so central, i can understand the when i'm very anti semitism, the phrase, but i insisted it's bridge. but when people have to so much of their identity around this affiliation with it as well, it can still like your, your very sense of being is under. so as people question that we need to make sure that we're bridges for people to say, ok, this is hard for the how do i join you in the hall and then the heat of the moment . i know that's difficult. but that has to be that way of, of reaching it out. it has been a full 10, happy jewish friday night's jewish policy. and i think it's going to be really
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important. the more people can go on that journey and the future is office to is ray jews again, the hall. but this isn't algeria, you know, plus, once we get beyond the policy that the offering has to be here is your place where you will actually be more secure. it has is ready to leaving in a future dispensation of equality. notice going up some supremacy. but all the quality and i know try to preach to people who are living through a horrendous assault right now by the palestinians themselves. know that this will strategically sub them. and they know, i think he's ready to go on going anywhere right from the river to the sea. they are going to be that, but not in this position of privileged organization under equality with utilities.
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best. right, daniel, where do you see palestinian identity at this moment? i know you have many palestinian contacts. you've been watching the protest in the united states. and you yourself have been a bridge many, many times between these different factions. what struggles and stresses does the palestinian side of this equation, which is under incredible siege right now, need to go through where, where is that? so as we see this piece movements, is that a challenge? you question people kinds of directions. this incredible proliferation. if people haven't yet seen michael's getting full, i highly recommend it's a cold top breakthrough. what is happening when you don't have a policy or a national move? it flies the flag, but it doesn't apply the liberation struggle stress. you don't have a move that can say, hey, this is where we come in. this is where we can be useful. this is what we're offering as off free to chopped up because the, the main stream but through the v is also has been co updates has been decimated. i
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don't know yet that yes, this has been, it is really strategy to be backed by america of the west to impose the does to impose the reality, to impose solutions adults policy. and through those years that leadership has lost touch with these people. so this is a mobile where not in the least propitious of circumstances, palestinians are having to grapple with how do they rebuild their own move, but they're of strategies their own visions for the future. and they just don't have given the space to do so. but the wants of a spunky to give to the palestinians, and i would argue by extension that to the possibility of a better future for palestinians in his regular like the worst thing one could do, would be to have this idea of that you can simply go back to the status quality of freeze, the outside reality choose need is full of the palestinians. put some text across
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some jobs. if people all familiar with the west coast of a sudden, columbus humphrey. but the fantasies around the saudis guaranteeing a power steering and future. the saudis onto, to forward into this problem, i don't need any way by the way, these notes which will. ready make it harder to get to the cool of you know, what, all the process of truth and reconciliation in the future could this i was involved in that i would also piece that, but the thing that was supposed to speak to is the absolute proof was any attempt to get the truth reconciliation. historic justice, adult medium use ready to start wakes, but it needs you to confront and tons and tons with the dump sweep under the carpet . the seminal experience that have students open the o dispossession. and that's where the hall seat and i don't know. yes there are. there are petitions going around? this is a moment of, of a great to molten up organizing on the palestinian side,
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but on the really difficult. so my question to you in this is who is going to be the agent to help change the game on the palestinian side of this equation? because as i look at it, i don't see any error of states ripping up the abrahamic chords. i don't see jordan egypt saying, hey, our peace treaty is over. i see a lot of consternation. i see a lot of calls for concern. i don't see anyone changing the trajectory that they're on either in the era of world or the broader western us trans atlantic world in this tell me where i'm wrong. one thing the last 7 months to show. ready is the abraham a. ready type lies ation agree, the top clear, you know, that contribution to piece. i don't think that was it that of the actual architecture retention, but they have survived. they do that one way of looking at this, where israel conceal relatively relaxed about it's equities in the region. but i do think something fundamental this happened. which is that the not just those who
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psych globalization. richard in general, a seen a few things how it is seen the. ringback there is a cost to be too closely associated with a country to conduct this extreme. they have seen that these rating based of instability has been shot that a lot of the reasons they thought it was love being close up full in terms of ease arouse intel and all the military capacities are far more on the question. they have seen the axis of resistance, basically establishing new balance of the carrots. that is not a simple thing. well, that does not translate into the state to your question. is a willingness to say ok, that means we change it with to get a more unified representative policy in leadership because that's the only way we can carry this forward. i think there's full recognition of that in the out over the, the,
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some of the global south that is really leading to this question in recent thoughts, whether it's africa with south africa or in the lead weather in south america with, with parts of asia where it would seem to need or that leisure step up in important ways. but i think the surrounding countries are still not playing that front wide state for they are facing the real concerns from their own public who are watching the same social media videos as we are. and they are trying to navigate that traditional, those who are in close relations with america. that's additional relationship. lease, um, clubs, sending over relations with these rel, i'm this recognition that this is what i'm, what we do with the policy as the default is you go back to those same policy and structures which inherently title deliver what is needed and where that brings me to save is to file number one just bought out installed,
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try to see the structures on policies give promised. dig into the space that very rarely happens. it is an actual politics, but it's really needed. now we need to bring together not just the factions, but civil society and the trade unions of women's movements and use movements and the business tribute that should be allowed to happen. i'm not saying, well, the 2nd thing that i think it points to is maybe the end result for some in the region, but some of these outside state to have an affinity. these were reconciliation tools and who are perhaps a little less published. whether it's the south africa, with the liberation movement, experience, whether it's obviously or in this space to eventually i hope we need to how the palestinians find that space to reinvent their own politics. because that's going to be so crucial going forward. let me just ask you finally, daniel, about the recent by the administration's efforts and also cut power in egypt to get
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to a cease fire agreement with hamas. how mos accepted that israel rejected it. is there any scenario that you can see where is real and the different players in the region reset and withdraw from gaza, or is the essentially the i and i elation of gaza. the only future we're going to see it has up to the, the, the way into a sustainable calm, sustainable ceasefire is the 1st, what is role? so as hostages that there's a public has about those hostages, the government and the prime minister at least have to sometimes give the impression that they can't, or i say that not to be flipped but, but i think at this stage it's really hard to imagine that that's a priority folder, but that, that there's a possible deal with those. we're still live on the hostage so i can get out. that's the way into a ceasefire. israel withdraws from casa adams. won't be games
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to rebuild the devastation that already exist. ringback yep, also is likely to be further dilated by say that with a heavy hawk, the destruction ready for structure, schools, hospital skilled glasses. okay. and that's by the way, one of the pieces like campus is used car so much. so there's this idea of the one could get a d. nothing your politic, not just idea logic. so politic is concerned that when he asked before, he faces the music. what happens on october 7th, as of the military will reside, will he resign a logic protest the take to the streets? he's not finished, but he is sub by the war continued. therefore, it will take a combination of domestic pressure and international pressure for 8 to
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be more politically risky and costly for him to continue the will rather than ends . if the us once before, the agent is going to have to be willing to maintain a scandal with these ready prime minister to get to that outcome. and this is the trajectory we have been on for several months, extra directory. we continue on. unfortunately at the moment all the a gauze o. ready t t u to salsa. east route is not going to eliminate come off. that's a scientist. see. israel continued to be in this for the region, will continue to be all the nightstands. we haven't spoken about this, steve, but there is the uh, the escalation recently with it wrong. there was a continuing situation between israel has the law that these board you have to both see move, but you have the voltage of the highest of shop to militias in rock. you're not
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going to get a copy of the region wildly stubs on that you cannot really bring those to a call. if you are willing to read it to that calculation, these right prime minister, he's also off doing publications in the west bank and east jerusalem. so it's a change that yeah, the probably base the blindly ministration. it all comes back to that. we're getting this wrong. pre ok. so the step baber, on this fairytale vision the, this is the, this is jake, something. this is the quietest period individual leaves that we can just clint biology, rating our students situation. that's not the case. the power of the habits. i think it's been to that great cost and different what a change in 10 are in the world. want to thank you for your candor. daniel. thank you. daniel levy,
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president of the us middle east project and former advisor to be is really government. really appreciate you joining us. thank you state. so what's the bottom line? doesn't it seem like president biden is running for election against is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu, rather than against donald trump. at least that's how it's often framed in the media. biden's and netanyahu's feet are on a collision course with netanyahu currently commanding the scene extending the conflict and attacking rasa which bite has been telling him not to do for the past 3 months. but binding has been. busy words and no action. occasional expressions of concern about the death of innocent people in gaza with 0 distance between israel in the us. there had been some bumps on the road, but as long as saying notice the spires keeps netanyahu in office. us will fret and complain, but continue supporting israel's course in gaza and the west bank. the crimes we've all been witnessing. we'll continue. and that sadly, is the bottom line. the
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i was, i was playing with a scooter with my cousin. he said, we're on our way home when we saw it is really the jeep driving towards us. so we started running soldiers begin, shooting. jude was hit in the neck and felt. it happened near the foot job, a refugee camp near jericho, and the occupied westbank soldiers detained, the wounded boy, accusing him of throwing rocks and type bombs before leaving him. and his really hosp these really hospital where he was treated claims they are owed more than $13000.00 for treating an 8 year old child with a gunshot wound from it is really assault. his father says the bill is so high, it will be impossible to pay posting it. officials told to 0 that in situations like this is real, deducts the funds directly from customs taxes that it collects on behalf of the palestinian authority. she says she'll never write
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a scooter again. interrogate the narrative, is the u. s. has continued support for israel affecting it's global standing. there's no question about it. the united states has effectively complicit the genocide challenge the rhetoric? yes, the correct, but so is the international community. can we also say that deals the cornerstone of democracy is having a free and open democratic pro upfront without pod came in to be used as the oil c suffered casualties. we have not suffered states pilots who use thank goodness we did have injuries from a missile strike on a guest house. thought provoking on to who that you say know double standard to all of us. any, anyone in particular i say to all facing realities, government seems here to whittle down democracy. it's because it's troubling for
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you. it's very, very painful here. the story on talk to how does in uh, brian as well. um one says it's too soon to know if this new currency, the ball, the gold was big, will make a difference to his daddy like, like millions of other people living in a country with one of the highest deflation rates in the world. he wants to bobby's economy to improve physics, replace this and bobby and donna, and it's backed by gold reserves and fine cars, commodities such as input duties, rent, and fuel. a paid with us dollars. that means and bobby, and still have to change the $6.00. the police, sabina, racing, a legal mind, me changes. i'm racing without a license undermining the government. he does want people to change their money back and not many here. haven't seen the signature yet. people are buying and selling mainly in us dollars. they say over the years, it's be more stable. that's always money. to use the currency,
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doesn't these value rapid that cooks change? take them into the so you wouldn't agency if it palestinian refugees. it says it's suspending food, a deliveries and rough on israel step stuff. it's stripes on southern johnson, the color there understands the attain. this is all to 0 at life and go home. also coming up is where the oldest sees, the equipment of the association for us to be returned. offered shut down and use agencies live camera position overlooking goes up.

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