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i'm the i c, c, a we likely to see grades of questions raised about complicity of some of the west and back as in supplies of arms to as well. not immediately, but i think within the long run we will see that. i think this is the moment of truth, particularly for the routine of the western european countries. because in the united states, as you know, the congress is fully behind these very policies. it was criticize the president, even if he thinks of suppressing or limiting with supplies to as well. that was a big question is countries like germany, france and britain who are more likely to abide by international than the united states. and that will they be able to continue supply arms and be complicit in the crimes and goes, uh uh and would the risk confrontation with united states on it? i don't have the answer for it. but what i'm saying is that this is not a crucial factor. i wouldn't look towards washington for any change in arming these
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really i the half or stopping really these are the actions on the ground. europe has especially less than you as an historical role to play, or i wonder whether they will fulfill that the road. i want to draw a little bit on your historical background lines. on november, the 16th we had a statement put out by 36, you and experts who talks about these riley engaging in a genocide in the meeting. they talked about increasing evidence of increasing genocidal intent. are based talks about the occupation and the destruction of the palestinian people. now looking at those sorts of trends from a historical perspective, is that what you see to? yes, i do. i think it's a structure, namely, what i mean by this, that from the very beginning of this on this project, in part assignment,
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particularly from 1948 on woods, a consecutive is really the, the ships and governments and military commanders believe that the only way of taking over historically by this time and leaving it as simple as things as possible. what was using these means whether it's ethnic cleansing, and if ethnic cleansing is not working, then a phosphate system as they do into westbank waiting it to is the for the scene in my notes, insight is a, or recently genocide. so, so i thing that means vary according to capacity, so it goes circumstances. but i'm afraid that the most the, most of these really policy makers would see such means as legitimate, necessary. and regardless of international reaction to these methods, most of them they find in the international lowest crime against humanity or war crimes. despite this kind of reaction i, i see these i can only see these varies continuing to do this unless they would
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face sanctions very much as a process south africa did at the time of the i thought i'd redeem notarize the laptop page. thank you so much for coming into the studio. thank you. to re body is a war crimes prosecute to and also all of the book to catch a dick tell you to. he joins us now live from new york good to have you with us. so one way read of looking at what the i c j ruling is that this is a very clear finding, is not the israel has not taken sufficient measures to protect civilian life and observe international law. absolutely, i mean we see through the 3 of the 3 i c j decisions this escalation at 1st, the 1st ruling was more or less, you know, be, hey, follow humanitarian lot, don't commit violations of the genocide convention. the 2nd got
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a little more specific and particularly in terms of humanitarian assistance, ensure humanitarian is not just, not just a facilitate. this one is very specific. um, you know, there ordering israel to halt specific offensive military operations. as well as to open the route for crossing other crossings to allow access to the un fact finding mission. it does give israel a lot of wiggle room here. so they're saying, you know, we are going to be very, very strict. now there's, there's been a, i've been reading actually be there been some separate opinions that interpret this and, and one of the opinions as well. they can, israel can act defensively, but the key word in, in the, in the order is offensive at the military,
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expensive actions. and so we can now look and put is right on whether or not it is doing is it, has it stop offensive actions of has it opened the crossings? is it allowing fact finding emissions in? and i think the implication is, as you say, that they have not abided by the previous rulings, but this one is a, it's much more so just let me jump and read. if the implication is that they haven't abided by previous readings. and the implication is that the actions are a threat to civilian life. does that sort of find things that sort of ruling have implications for the broad a genocide case which is rarely is facing? absolutely, i mean these are these inter rulings, these provisional measures are legally binding. so down the road, the fact when, when we get to the merits of this case,
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and as we've all discuss the merits of whether or not israel is actually violating the genocide convention won't be dealt with here for years. so there is no immediate sanction for via a at least at this court, for violating provisional measures. but the fact that israel has violated these provisional measures is certainly going to prejudice it when we come to the final ruling by the international court of justice. all right, i think we've also got to talk about the issue of complicity of all the powers as we see legal bodies increasingly point the finger israel. and i want to talk about the us looking back to what the us present in joe biden side on december, the 12th he said is, well, security can rest on the united states. but right now it has mold in the us. it has the you, europe, most of the world supporting the best staffing to lose that support by
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indiscriminate bombing. he said, well then he went home on may 8th to say civilians have been killed in gauze as a consequence of those bombs referring to us bonds. and they added in other ways in which they go off to a population census. reed, when you have the leader of, of a country saying, we know that israel is conducting indiscriminate bombings. we know that they using our weapons and we know that all weapons are being used to kill civilians. you go to one. the is a building a case for complicity guys himself. he absolutely is. i mean it's very interesting. there was a case another case last month at the international court of justice, which nicaragua had brought against germany alleging just this, alleging germans, germany's complicity in arming a israel and, and, and,
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and it's complicity in violations of the genocide convention that germany was sued only because the united states has actually not consented to that kind of a suit before the i c j. and whereas the germany has, in that case, the court found that germany's a assistance to, uh, israel has tapered off and that it is not providing leave full expensive equipment at a, at a, at a level that requires provisional measures. but the court, but it was very clear and it's decision and, and spoke to wall states that are parties to the geneva convention and the genocide convention. but they need to examine whether or not their arms transfers a render them or, or, or, or rather than complicit in violations of the geneva conventions and the genocide
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convention. there's been a case in the us. courts are brought by my colleagues at the center for constitutional rights alleging precisely that the biking and ministration is complicit in violations of the genocide and other human rights conventions. in that case, the us court pets reluctantly said it didn't have under the doctrine of the judiciary, not deciding political questions that it could not rules on, on that allegation, but, but did so very reluctantly think there's a clear issue of state complicity here at the end to some extent, there may be, are issues have been to visual complicity, read. i'm curious, if we look at this, i see j ruling who has the legal right now to act on the quotes or the in reference to commissions of inquiry, launching fact finding missions and investigative bodies going back.
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well, there are, there is, there is a they, the human rights council actually has a, a, a, a 3 person. but that's fine. the commission of inquiry headed by the former high commissioner for human rights, navy, p, y of south africa. but we've, we've seen this right sometimes not to co operate with some of these international, but before they request taxes, is that any legal consequence for non compliance now as well, when you say legal concert plans, um, nobody will go to jail. um, uh, nobody is going to send an international troops. um, i think the legal consequence is a secure to it as, as other, as you've been discussing with your correspondence in new york, the legal consequence is a resolution from the united nations security council that backs up these
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decisions. and traditionally, of course, united states has been, has been de towing these decisions, even though they are the things that the united states has call for. but that's a veto. that is harder and harder to, to sustain us has to decide whether it is going to go and get us international law as adjudicated by a body who has jurisdiction, the international part of the trust is it totally excess. and you know, we, then all of these are very, these are not nebulous requests, allow a fact finding mission. and there is this fact finding mission traditionally, you're correct. israel has never allowed you when a fact finding emissions and because they believe that they are prejudiced against israel and that israel, it's been singled out and it has never cooperated officially or let any of these bodies into it's patrick now you have for the 1st time they really would stop after
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it's been asked and for since the beginning. but now you have this really for the 1st time saying allow these missions, the fact finding inquiries and you need to preserve the need to find out the facts . but you also need to preserve evidence good talking to appreciate your legal analysis. thanks so much re brody. you're welcome. i. so i had on, i'll just, sarah, you know, the world news major line slide hits, the village in pop when you're getting more than a 100 people of feed back on china begins the 2nd day of minutes. we drill surrounding taiwan, saying the wall games rains, that testing the ability to seize power, the had low that will stop by looking at the satellite image for south asia. and you can see dense cloud showing where the monsoon rains are putting in southern india
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as well. as a tropical system that's developing in the bay of bang go, but the on the west to whether it is so a story of heats across the pockets done on both western parts of india. we have a warnings out for severe heat wave conditions across eastern areas of pockets done not just in correction, but also the whole. you can see those numbers switching around the mid forties. well above the average across the board in india, ritz rod just on as well as punjab and harry on that are going to see very hot conditions in the days ahead is much west down in the south with sophia's thunder. storms and heavy rain for the likes of carola, as well as tom will not do. and there is that circulation bringing some very heavy rain to coastal areas of eastern india as well as bangladesh. we could see some flooding from that, and it's still some very heavy rain to come across southern pots of china with thunder storms in hong kong, through the weekend. and very heavy rain moves across from northern areas of china,
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dipping the temperature down invasion. it's approaching the korean financial that, bringing that rain through the on sunday as to whether update the an aide work i travels to vote on syria saying he's back to hell are you will come back. are you afraid of? no, no file. but not in the eyes. of his government with my citizenship was revoked. i was surprised, and you 3 part series detailing the struggle is a pretty shade waka and the dangerous consequences of citizenship revocation on innocent until proven guilty statements in syria coming soon on al jazeera. now let me tell you about safari valley. the cool result is the 1st of its kind in west africa. we were surrounded by a wild life. from the moment we enter the coupon occupied right now able to practice what the now be used. only look, just very close here,
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like common here, sits on to play with a large 3rd space with a look in my private for me now. thanks. royal. i can also offer somebody probably equal, resulted in gun in the the you're watching out just the time to recap, ma headlines now. the international court of justice has ordered israel to be immediately ended submitted to be offensive in the southern gauze and city of austin. the quote says it's not convinced is roused evacuation efforts that all sufficient to alleviate the risks, palestinians, all facing the world court also ordered israel to open that off processing and to
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allow the on it provision of basic services and the amount of chevy and age garza as well as close your of border crossings, wisconsin severely depleted the volume of a fleet cheese kind of experience in the green line on the ground in gauze and he's ready. all mean has again targeted drop off. the attacks happened in the crowd. the sure board accounts the homes of the city terrified people flag to a nearby hospital take shelter from the farm. the want of central gauze is main. hospitals all august has been handed, a lifeline just hours before its generators are expected to run out of fuel. these were the scenes inside the facility over night. many departments were in dock. this doctor's treating premature babies use the lights from the mobile phones. hospitalized, received some fuel, sony, and off the last a few days that facilitates fill on the verge of collapse. the
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health care system and gals, as all button collapsed as a result of as well as relentless attacks. the world health organization documented $450.00 attacks on health care facilities and gone. so between october the 7th, and by the 15th, that excludes this week, cj, it's allowed, but it says is ready for us is they've killed 723 health workers and injured 924, including civil defense teams, ambulance cruise. now one of causes $35.00 hospitals is fully functional. more than 100 ambulances have been damaged. well, some hospitals aren't able to offer basic 1st day, but they don't have enough medicine or supplies to treat the number of patients. in addition to people in getting this riley strikes doctors and treating people for communicable diseases and w, i chose records that a one of the half 1000000 cases of infection such as chicken pox, john, this diarrhea respect tree infections to get shot of it is
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a spokesman so the world health organization, it's all made the i c j's routing must be allowed to bring about change in gaza, which he said is facing farming. as we have posted those that have been shutting down. in the recent days, we have not been able to bring any medical supplies. we just heard about fuel not being available anymore for, for dose as to the still beverly coping to provide some services, we are not able to move across a across guys. a association is, is really catastrophic and what we all think it is. busy a lives being lost, small people being, being church and high right. corner of that is done by health workers will be, will be early in the way unless again, there is a ceasefire. there is a, there's a how to operate that would allow us and health workers and guys a to review a re reopening self services in hospital. so just to clarify,
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since we've had this i, c, j routing come out. we know it's, it's still very fresh. but you've had no indication of any change in the military operation that would allow you to do your mission. you've had no indication of any opening of that off crossing which the icy jays opened is. is that right? well, there really is a, it has just arrived, but what do you have seen seems see, seems may a that we are unable to bring in supplies. we had the, we had situation a come all at one hospital and out of the hospital in north of guys have both of them have been under siege both of them closed. now we have situation, you know, wrap up where all of our hospital as close either of us goes. i strongly do that. so really did the good. there's a, there's a more of an urgency. it's very difficult to find the words, but so many lots are being lost and even worse. so more if there is,
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if there is no creek or excess quicker association or facilities. does this rooting from the i c, j give you any hope that this will helps you to try and deliver vital supplies into gaza? really, it's really difficult to say for the last 8 months a we have been doing go with besta, alongside other partners and a health workers inside guys. every time there was a window of opportunity, we would have a bringing supplies. that would be some services review, be uncomfortable because were coming back to work. so it was really up and down. but clearly we are not able to move if people are being boned constantly, but it's, it's, it's, it's one step forward, 2 steps back. and it's a we can only hope, but it gets deeper feelings. but unfortunately this has been going for way too long . the election officials in india have been making preparations for the 6 and pen
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ultimate phase of india's general election voters and 6 states and 2 federally government regions will cost the balance on site. today. this slide to stage includes the capital dally, which is seen in tens political drama, or in the run up to the vote. as a reminder, the indian government has not granted visas to, i'll just service you on this. so a covering the election from outside the country, i'm gonna consume chevy for reports. 6 6 6 6 in the bathroom, so india is captain dudley's chief minister and leader of the of the common man's party has been holding back to back campaigns. the city has only 7 parliamentary seats. what is the center of political power you have in case you want to just support this adventures at risk and improvement by coming out to he's out on bill of to being detained by
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a federal crime agency on charges of corruption, the south to the general elections were announced, kate shavaun says he's innocent. he's the 3rd member of the party to be arrested for corruption. his bill ends on june the 2nd days before the election results are due to be announced. k to fall to choose this from mr. moreno, m. o, d. o, recognizing corruption investigations to discredit political arrivals and deflect, voters attention from real issues. you don't want a condo, cannot you? your dish, can you? they want to stop at work. if this is not good for the country, this is dictates a ship, and we need to fight against this. i'm fighting against the dictatorship, but i need your support. beyond not the party responded more than a decade ago and has been in public entities since 2013. it's also increased. it's footprint by been crucial for single best in punjab. but it didn't win
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a single parliament receipt from the capital in 2019. so this time is showing the coalition of opposition properties. so model essays, k 2 balls of rest has benefitted his campaign. when people saw that our vintage, it was like, was, was billed. they believe that immediately it was actually jailing somebody who was a legitimate officer. who could legitimately take away their this jailing of kid to convince the b j. b. that how popular, how popular gives you all is this good sense to put down about 3, the governing, talk to you. gentle party has also had valleys across philly to that stop campaign a. the prime minister of the party, one old 7 parliamentary seats in 20152019. and let's say delhi is often a microcosm of national sentiment. the total number of people who reside in italy is about 23000000 and they keep rolling in from neighboring states. so in
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a certain way, it represents how the country is thinking, not just about how many of the city is thinking, the elections come full use of to some of the worst community violence and the capital in debt gets voted. say they want the government that's willing show the safety and address basic issues of employment and development and the consumption of i'll just see the child as ministry has conducted the 2nd day of the tree exercises around taiwan. china says the war games of rain that testing its ability to seize power during response to comments promoting time when the software and the made by new president legion to make those comments at his inauguration ceremony on monday, china considers the item to be part of its territory and to be taken by force if necessary. during the civic apollo as the nicest from type hey, of the chinese males 3 hours have started already the ministry of defense here and
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tie one does not give you details usually to later in the day. but on the previous days, they said the chinese p l. a vessels got between within 24 nautical miles and the water surrounding tie one. they had deployed about 50 military aircraft, 20 naval ships, and more than a 1000 postcard vessels that could be used in an invasion of china saying that it is a trying to test the ability of all join seizure of power joint strikes and control of territories. what does that mean? well, as, and essentially, it's a blockade of taiwan. and in particular, in these exercises they're trying to do is block off the waterways that would be used by taiwan to alice like japan or the united states in the event of an invasion . now it's worth noting that has not been any live fire. these are mostly maneuver based on a lot of focus is being given to the name joins toward 2024. a defense analyst are
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trying to figure out whether this is the 1st of many exercises that are due to come for tie one the platform you're getting. now with some say, hundreds of people are likely dead off for a land slide in the remote area of pharmacies and the knowles, and then give province or assessing the damage they're wanting, the number of casualties, maybe. hi, jessica washington reports to see often most of the land slide in, puffing you can use north and into provence. it's drunk. around 3 am. 0. people were thinking, i mean, or the hillside collapsed, burying houses. survivors say bolt is the size of cause came tumbling down on the village below the levels on the ground. the boys, right, the back of me, they're telling me that the submissive destruction, the 2 police more than 300 lives with most right now is that those major covered by the rocks and the deputies right now. yeah. let me put each posted on facebook.
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people seen climbing over books and uprooted trees. most residents of this district, a small scale farm is. it's not clear how many are affected as there is no recent data on the population of the prime minister. james murphy says the defense force will help with a search and recovery efforts. authorities have sent emergency response teams to the area and described landslide as devastating and unprecedented. earlier, the provincial administrator held an emergency meeting with health authorities and police, as well as a representative from the united nations. most of the community groups are collecting aid for families who have lost a personnel in this disaster life. so jessica washington, which is 0 and all that. so it's for the sho. get much more on our website. i'll do 0. they'll come back in another couple of minutes with another slide show the
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the canyon government has forwarded thousands of people across the country to move away from wetlands that have flooded many areas. torrential rains in the region have been made was by the on the new with the phenomenon. this is how close the houses are from the narrow down. it doesn't look like margins covered by what the highest says when a toolbox knows the what comes to that. how is this? the problem in that robi has been watson by pull drainage and he's taken the bill settlement people's beeping in near the narr ruby. don't say they know they're not supposed to be there, but it's the only case they can afford. pod came in to be used is israel and obstacles piece. i think that the new thing, the f one is government with the says 5 digit, you say getting less of late, thought provoking on the e. you made weapons of being used in guns. no guns should be used in an offensive
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way. that's our facing realities you're running. mean, what does he bring to the table? hard from the presidential go to some we cannot take the fact that he was signing a present as not that important effective. he of the story on talk to how does era the challenges interrogate the narrative is the us has continued support for israel, affecting his global standing. there's no question about it. the united states has effectively complicit the genocide challenge the rhetoric. yes, they look that correct, but so in the international community, can we also say that deals the cornerstone of democracy is having a free and open democratic pro upfront without the
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the world's top called old is this route. this don't fits minute trail peroration and off i immediately sang. the situation in the southern city and gaza is disastrous under the general side front, which is the most immediacy for me to open. and any other action ended up on the low. on sammy's i, this is algebra live from dell also coming up despite the i c. j brooding garza southern cities.

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