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tv   Talk to Al Jazeera Tanja Fajon  Al Jazeera  May 27, 2024 12:30pm-1:01pm AST

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cooling for an immediate 2 state solution. positioning palestinian statehood is the critical pathway to pick the state prices. pivotal questions about the influence of small nations and global diplomacy and their ability to reshape entrenched your political narrative will examine what impact this will have as a civilian for administer, tanya. asylum talks to welch's here, the new found foreign minister. so can you thank you so much for talking to al jazeera at 1st of all, so many a school for sci fi, and for all the captives to be released in cancer? do you believe that is ro of to 7 months of this war is breaking humanitarian, lower and committing more crimes and cost? as i said it several times that what we are facing can garzo way to the highest that store among civilian population is such a short time before our violations of international humanitarian. looking what i
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saw and it was all the same goals and applies smells were off or wherever c fours displacements. so for listing in some continuation and preparation of a larger scale of military operations. so these are really reasons of concern and us moving as you sat, we are a member of the security calling some of the periods of 2 years of united nations. and since the very beginning come, we are according to international community, georgia, ex taurus, i'm to have an immediate cease fire. and now for so i was so recently lost everything in the region. i'm also, i'm telling still, is it a don't continue with the military operations on to do it because that was with, for that escalate? the situation need the region. and um, we are extremely concerned. that's what we see today. it's also the use of that of ation for a weapon of war. and this is not an acceptable and never got then do you believe
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that as well as committing genocide and gaza? a sudden you will see signs of genocide, the courts are those to decide to both the channel side. it's will be difficult to say for politicians, it's something what i think into much but it's other. what i say is that every time you sort of the government, but i can tell you that it's hardy road, i said few times that the world has for them on the tests of humanity. 10 thousands of children and many disappears. many last, we don't know what will happen with the some younger generation on children in the future. and some say, you know, that 1415 years it will take time from today on is divorce. and so just to remove the notes to think whether one kinetic construct, invest, the or financial means that we speak about the billiards to people who have any
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decent conditions for living. you mentioned profit, which many people in the international community. it's, it was a red line. what do you make of israel's attempts to take hold of a rasa in this? why the why that, that seemingly creeping in state by state. i will see with a single visiting cut off and that was on sunday. so that the award, the closer stuff and it was hardware to see more than 2000 stocks. we the humanitarian assistance waiting and not only dies and there is a lot of items for the urgent medical have items. so providing for clean water energy or the school should for life will be for that. and they are either delay or re thoughts by easily island. few, many dining no system doesn't come to. so my message was board of those has to be opened. we have to actually manage better and more humanitarian aid and assistance for people. as i said before, what we speak now is
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a complete starvation of population that in civilian seen plenty of countries including the united states. that's what adamant that the invasion of rother could not go ahead. this was a red line for them. and yet here we are, seemingly, there are no consequences at this stage as well. why do you think that it, it was a life for everyone? and i was my so friend telling me of speaking very simply a way to is that really mean instead of cots and i was seeing the same, don't do it. but i haven't had a single indication or a positive sign that's this will not be the case, the same go, sweet, continuation of negotiations order and immediate cease fire. this is a permanency slide. and those are discussions. what are they off the how to make sure that he's really simple as the new skin move side by side to state solution with a lot of confidence that we meet. it's to go that way, but there was no discussion whatsoever. and that is, of course,
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what is some when you have on the other side, a partner or government that has one sort of goal. and this is still the story from us. and i said this very clearly on the 7th of october. when does ruth have reduced the tax by how much happened to me is that a kings of civilians, anything of women? it's unacceptable. everybody that or, and clinics of civilians is unacceptable. but looking at the number of that's pulling out speaking about so here 5000 civilians among many children. and they'll put ation before displacement. it is also a violation of international law and data. we will speak about accountability and international courts for sure. one day and with the easiest on that, it's actually really, it's a hard to put for the people of pellets on they need that accountability right now . don't die because they don't have years to why that being killed on a daily basis as we speak. they don't have and you know, i am in the last week speaking
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a lot with counterparts in the region. and i have to say with my face content fighting the out, afford that equal nice little a little slow me another letter. gratefully, because he is very beginning to, as i said, we would always all saw or call or 3rd on that i solution for us. his file is will source and updating the security call. and so then the security council revolted for the commission of palestine and united nations the same. we support these additional rights to for the seniors in general assembly. so here the link or steps to be really consistent. but now i think we see, we know who has the level, right. she needs it or who has to do really ok most. and i would say it's time more than ever now to really ext the time has already, you know, gone much too far and people will not have life that prison button. uh, so the united sites were things have been used to kill civilians in guys. it was the 1st acknowledgment of that since the war began. do you believe that the us is
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complicit? here? i difficult to say or comments. most probably i don't even have or the necessary information because in diplomacy, a lot of diplomacy is all away from ice. but what i see is not enough is definitely not enough. and this is why in the quite time society is to see sort of the passions don't know, thought it is, it's growing. you see, protest also in our faculty seem to safety about the 3 of watching genocide this we are watching, killing stuff, innocent civilians guys already disappeared. we see booth or violence of seth nursing westbank that in scrolling we see additional plants. so fees that are the government for the set links, so or this, and it's also in the absence of this new office throng international community for it's in these, those countries that has certain level, she said that the us hasn't done enough. what should they be doing? i mean, i was to speak with the secretary blink,
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and i know he's really off an invitation and that's certainly big enough for it. still have continuation of a negotiation seen kyle. i think this is extremely important that this negotiations, the resume and a resume in a way that that is a ceasefire sooner rather than later. and those are early soft cost stages. this wouldn't be an important step the same time, i think. what's we need the doors full support for me for i'm policing, you know, solidarity since i'm on a to be able one day also to control gaza um slovenia and decided to launch the procedures for the completion of palestine. to be frank, i wish to say anything, a different circumstances to have a complete peace plan piece, confidence everyone's to think of the table including use that at least us and never to want to discuss what did they all stood in the political architecture. it's not happening. so in the absence of that, we decided we have a model duty, at least the symbolic duty to give
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a hope you're well experienced with this for the step on the commission. and i the whole other congress with follow us because a lot of concerts are things today. yes, we support the state solution, but when, how and the which conditions it like you say a lot of people want a piece plan for all of the parties to sit around the table. and finally find the last thing solution to what is going on. that simply not kind of happened at this point in time, was it? and what do you think can actually be done rather than blinking, having another visit to the region which we've seen, hasn't worked in the past to get a $65.00 done. so what needs to change now, just follow it's our own color. suppose civility to international and human rights . so nothing is above that. and once we order the specs and commit suite, then we are in a better shape and the condition also to to only work on a cease fire and on a to state. so, and we'd always having all sorts of, you know,
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pay for and he's starting background calculations or pleasures. it is difficult. i know it's not a, it's not a conflicts from the 7th of october. it's much lasting, longer to conflict that we also have to be aware of and it to the quiet us. certainly every effort also in the region to contribute to pass initiative plan to tony work slip. so i wanted to say it's not only about no american sort of the parents, but then join half of it on the joint. if you've joined spine other than molto, the announcing that you really recognize of palestine. why was it important to us with any so far? we are still waiting for other countries to see, but that is uh, a serious initiative on the table. a few like minded countries. i don't want to speak, but certainly, spain island starting the 1st boats together with slovenia. debra follow other says
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we've seen all we came to a number 145, i think with a lot to come together to equal nice. so it's, it's a significant number and those are the role that took place in general assembly recently that gave additional rise to producing as was with a quite a big majority. so i do expect that what we did in slovenia is yes, we launch the procedures. in our case, there is still a national problem and that will have to take a final step, hopefully in a months time. but it also wants to create the pressure on one hand for the negotiations to continue for the ceasefire in the region and for the release of hostages, but also to see an addition i left for it. so for this thing, you know, thought it is to really be capable of having this task among the population and control, or we speak about gaza westbank, he specials and let me fiddle with a boy this of 60. so like it was such a relatively small country to speak up so loudly is rather unusual. why are you
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making a stand? but maybe this is exactly what it is and also to be a small company who can do quite a change. and we don't have big competitors, one can say from the fast, but we can bring different positions together exactly. for that reason, if you stand on the sides of international and you and charged on various things to those so. so at least what i'm, you know, with some say european sort of less than others have done those standards. and so we already acting differently on the awarding me the least and the differently on the adoption aggression ukraine only don't walk is our policy is policy for peace. me obviously a part of all of this, but what is happening in cancer and, and israel is freedom of the prius, al jazeera as recently being banned from offer icing in israel. what did you make that decision, and what does it say about as well as democracy at this point?
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i strongly condemned it even more because i used to be sure i noticed myself, and i know how important these 3 them over the past, especially when it comes to the romantic or violence of war situations where media play a crucial role. that is a very concerning data and gaza. we've seen that's of more than 100 years and closing down i just did. i knew that there was something that is unacceptable who speaks a lot about democracy in the country. and i think that that is a join to for that as serena is also a courting. who are we, the latter, i think read one of the short notice to worldwide organization to really video when audra 0 because it's so important it also people get kind of a information balanced information from the region. what is the actually the media? do you think that that has made a huge difference, that there are people with phones everyone has got
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a phone nowadays and we're seeing and real time what is happening in dallas and that goes out around the world in real time. do you think that has fueled some of the backlash against what israel is doing and how significant do you think that that has been here and i am certain that has positive and negative sights because yes, we get the images. so i gave the images from people daily and you can judge, you may choose yourself, but as also send me some does information ongoing for its different interpretations, everyone can rise everything. so it's also a confusion of information to talk, you know, has to be checked for that to me. it was a nice professional journalism. so my desire is always that i come in the region and i can speak with interlocutors here because they want to know the situation. they have different contexts and it's so important for oral thoughts, especially work and getting a diplomacy to listen to each other. not only least,
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and it was that they're here to each other and then also to try to find. so there's some compromises. well, you've been to, as well as you say, you've spoken to your account there. have you, do you feel like you have been heard that i listen to you? i speak with these are the counter 5 minutes that are cards. and i wouldn't say regularly, but i'll send you enough and i visited stella recently. we are, you wish to see some positive sign and student here which it is necessary to continue with negotiations done. go to it off um, protect civilians, a speak about how to ensure to be sensibilities safety and security refrigerator sent by this thing is leaving side by side invitation. i have to say that's and it's not a secret because info. solo where then use that at the end of the meeting. we agree that we disagree. how frustrating is the heads that regardless of the,
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the truths that you go to the space on your countries behalf that you are seemingly not being listened to at all at the stage address. and i believe it's most um, for staging, for either the population, those that's one to live in peace. you'll see protests and i, you know, i don't want to blame all these other areas for that for, it's about the natania when the government and people wants to see what was appeased. are many people that wants to see peace. and they will have to pay accountability for that and they're very much responsible for the, the significance. so. ready wouldn't it be more productive if you went together as a unified voice to as route to put that collective pressure on them to stop what that doing and guys are cool for a safe spot. stop going into process, stop displacing syllabus as civilians and desktop dropping bombs on innocent civilians. surely that is a the you is a very powerful monte block that carries a lot of white with it. how difficult is it trying to get your counterparts?
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it within the you to speak with a unified voice. it's not an easy question for me because quite often, i mean, a minority of countries that is more local on 33 or for a new yet though i wouldn't say, you know, i, what are the bates became very emotional that i can say that is clearly sometimes see daddy's um we try to find where we can agree and we certainly agreed on a 2 state solution. we certainly agree that is a need for them instead of an assistance that we had against the force displacement, we agreed on a sanction of grace. these are in the settler so that a lot of elements you can say, want to agree, but that is the question of speeds. and there are some differences when it comes to reuse is fired when it comes to, you know, what are you steps on the recognition? what are the scenes um, i believe through the end of may, that would be more of your confidence way. the nice thing about us on this is the
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efforts for being a source of the link. it's the secret that germany is the 2nd biggest supplier of width and is where i live to the united states as late as well. what has the response been to your and others the pushing for the palestinian people? and it was good to see that americans stopped sending at least some heavy weapons toys that l. i hope that's is followed by everyone who is still doing so because it's unacceptable to see that either the western bonds or weapons so used to cure civilians and continue the war in gaza. yes. enjoy them. and he has also for his article reasons, some difference. well, don't say so much different, maybe different on the approach, whether it's contributing to the media to cease fire. this is another question of contraction use that, but the reality is that width is made in european countries,
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are being sent israel to palm civilians and gaza. that is the reality of what is still happening today. 7 months after this fall again, i can say so being as non to doing so we are absolutely not sending any weapons and i do expect the other stuff, although we need it to me yesterday weeks ago. so what sort of pressure are you putting on those countries? good us, you know, you know what, our discussions we are opening void is heavy issues. once we seen the increase off, um, easily settlers violence in westbank, we bought among the 1st countries to tie to persuade the condo to send you sanction so necessary for his lo staff. this, it took us quite some time to come for united decision, which was there is something, but you have to force bush force and create a password. and i believe we, forth. we are facing, can garza the, especially the mountain going over to the tech is present at one has a said that the us definitely not doing any we near enough to put pressure on
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israel. they have recently halted old trade with as well. is that something that you would like to see? excellent, and then from to kia to, to other countries like your it's always difficult to discuss about today the agreement sanctions because the new we have one common market. we have one called on system where we have to always search for the unit name is so the unanimous roads, but it is the discussion that some country side openings, the tools or discussions as my society in viet opening is lavinia bought some on today. the agreement on sanctions, it's not that easy to move up because the thought of them when it comes to unanimous about it, like you said, it's going to be a unanimous approach. but each country within the you does have its singular voice . so what is that something that you would push for? we are we definitely and i'm already tracking for possible what's
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a some can be done in that direction. was a way to use some sort and limitations on the products to the country. i'm exploratory important but i can tell you, well we, we don't have a big stay to it the so the way they are that us better significance more you, you've recently made with palestinian prison like motor past. mm hm. what did you take away from that amazing, what message did you give? and then what did you get back? um i tried store in katie, encourage them to move a has to 20 for the government to do 34 items to gain to task stuff for people because they are also the ones you know, tomorrow to, to one day they could control what guys are rich and it is a challenge for the policy, you know, sorry to swear the current situation. i also explained him our efforts for the we are doing. we have usually with relations. we have some projects,
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some you know tamala, supporting co women, children in cycle sociological have. so we spoke about or possible steps. but those of you many tatty on an age for 2 guys and also what can come a day off the so it was a good exchange and i have to say that so it sounds a little bit more among friends. if i say, at least for the coordination of what we are trying to do now, well, most of the world's attention has been on guys around for the last 7 months. obviously the war and you're trying to still ongoing. there's been some very significant developments recently with russia lost a surprise ground offensive that is force thousands to evacuate the hockey region, the northeast, if you try and it appears like no one actually saw that coming, that it with the russians would be so effective. so quickly there, do you think that you're trying to stretch fonts who sent at this point to defend
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the hard, full ground that is managed to hold onto the a clean muscle to those this because it's about that it's harder. so in any t integrity and resend for that, the reason we do k, no one can buy force, they calander one. and these are also when you remember that i should've been action. and cutting can also it to your full scale stations. that these are also a violation sofa international community tied in. no. and so it actually is an important player in the security council. and since the beginning of that war, the world has tremendously changed. you know, the word or the 3 of the use for many, many years is for the i would say joe, for the ice. so it's very difficult to find a consensus the waters on going to a while. i'm confused that's ukrainians are in a big challenge. and we do, as i said, supports,
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and then the send to create these fight. it feels like like you say more than 2 years on from the beginning of this folder rusher, really does have the hands now concerned you about that. it does so. so that is why i urge to have to piece initiatives on the table and both sides are at the table that under what conditions a no willingness. what i do this for, that's how i always support his or the piece initiatives that were there and caught . and he was all the sweets initially is the core for the piece confidence in geneva, end of june, or to make a story successful. we need a little bit more, we need the support of global solid, but as you the other big 5 and there's some and also at the end of the data show has to be at the table. many of that, if you don't stop person from taking you try and open parts of your training, it's just going to encourage him to inside of the countries potentially do you
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believe that there's a 3 years ago believe that the war, whether it is start i don't think does anyone has a clear answer on that? yeah, because there's been many enlisted have said that's that as being the excuse for many wisdom countries cooling for more i to go to you crime that if we don't stop person in you trying that he's just going to be able to do what he wants. but that push back on that narrative and say that that isn't the case at all, that he doesn't have the military capability to go and take on another country at this point. not too long ago that was an attack when a nuclear power plants of pollution and this is 1005 kilometers away from so we know we were seriously concerned. we even launched a debate together, maintain the national agency for atomic energy and a security cost. so to speak about the security of nuclear power plants due to income the worst situations we do have same experience from our us. so speaking quotes unlikely will never happen either on that. but patients to the efforts to
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stop happening, what is happening, you know, and we are not seeing clearly any ends of this war. any new version president, letting me present this just started another 6 year to him. clearly, he has made it personally obvious that this war isn't going to end any time saying that he is going to continue with what he's been doing for the last 2 years. what do you think that brought his long term goal is here? how is the way they have this they have occupied indigo territory? is they have the election? so newly those territory. certainly one can agree that negroes territory is they will not, never be willing to remove the forces from there, but they should. so now whether we are strong cause international community nowadays phones. so that's and i see that should also servicing davos, then they're set onto the what his other so committee code, toyota pen. so the westerns one can be, it was
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