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is the re drew the map of the middle east to dark colored aircraft appeared from a distance just as we were focusing on a drum forms on the run. the houses are exposed the events leading to the will and its consequences, which it still felt today. and it was such as the start of his land, the war in june. on out his era, the hazy, has a new prime minister, gary condo is chosen to turn the country around. of games control, most of the capital and violence has killed and then just thousands. so can condo bring disability? hey t nice. this is inside story, the
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hello welcome to the show. i'm sammy's. a then for you is haiti has suffered from violence, political instability, and poverty. in recent months, gang violence has led to the resignation of prime minister ariel henri and false tens of thousands of people from the homes. many have been forced to live and make shift shelters, but now some hope. com can gradually be restored to the caribbean nation. a transitional presidential council sworn in last month has chosen a new prime minister, gary condo will leave the country for the next 2 years. now this is condo, 2nd time in the top job, and these promise to bring the country together. so how will he tackled the violence and instability, terrorizing the people of haiti, and what role would be us playing all of this? all we're bringing out guess shortly. but 1st, this report by imaging can the with guns controlling 80 percent you these
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capital and your appointment is to assist and chosen the country. gary connie is a former regional director of human stuff in latin america. my get a briefing that tell you about a decade ago, he was selected by 9 men to kind to create it to oversee its transition to democracy. that came of deployment as to area and henry resigned in april on the international pressure um its spiraling. kyle some growing violence. i feel very honored that the presidential console has chosen me as the new prime minister of haiti. together, we will work for bits of tomorrow for all the children of our nation. connie charged with bringing stability, put on the streets. and heidi, there are mixed feelings about his appointment. well, this is the 1st time that the presidential consent has made that choice in favor of the people. everyone knows that the gaiety courtney is an honest citizen who is do his utmost to fight corruption in the country as he did under the government of former president monthly. so we have been through this before. they could have
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given us new people wearing already in charge, and we could have seen what would have happened the, the u. n says more than 360000 people have been displaced from their homes in height and the past 2 years. in 2024 more than 1500 people were killed and hundreds injured. nearly 60 percent of people live in poverty and avoidance, prevent aid reaching those in need and limits the access to health care and schools . in february governments during the airport police stations and prisons really singled and full size and inmates. condolence mushrooms following the assassination of president juvenile maurice in 2021. no elections were held to replace him leaving a power vacuum, the gangs of throw it, and he is waiting for you. in fact,
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deployment of canyon police supported by the us to help quote the balance of the countries of also pledge security personnel. but some, a skeptical they have the ability to break the grip of the pos and guns and kindly does the food. they may not accept decisions of the presidential cancer . leaving height is new prime minister. the major challenge had image and came out to 0. the inside story, the well that's this, that's what this moment could means. i hate these people with, i guess in haiti's capital pull to prince. we have events are involved. he's the executive director of policy tay. it's an n g o and policy think tank in paris. we have the a good that mean. he's a consultant expos, on hazy for the international crisis group. i'm involved though. we have a on the chevy say he's from the defense intelligence company. james,
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he's covered military operations in hate and other conflicts. good to have you with us. so if i could start with events, so does the new, the chosen prime minister have credibility? do you think in the eyes of most haitians to well, you know, i think she brought it, we don't patients, donald tries, but it isn't stuff that that's all because yeah, seen any progress in the country for the last many years. you know, 25 or 50 years viruses. so you know, i think we did a survey back in january and we know like the nice people relations wouldn't be identifying those amenities, secuity, referrals, 80 percent of them do the mattress and others insecurity. but also healthcare services and accessibility and employment and job security. so the government, he's gonna try to resolve those issues. those needs. i think the way to start to,
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you know, get some somebody on the truck right now. we're just waiting to see situations because we don't the know okay, connie was right. any surgery the 1st doing the monday. ready but at the same time, the difference is a little bit you kind be was the size of me, the assignments that i use, the border to see my we don't see those outcomes which the me somebody's one. so that situation that one point may. okay. we have but right now we're just, we just noticed the weight is easy to me is. all right, and given what eventually just said, diego, what dancing? can he unify the nation? a daily, it will be one of the most challenging jobs in the world. the one, the income you will have at the, in having these transitional government that it has
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a very ambitious plan. and it has to restore security. and it has to organize dimensions. it pretends also organize and natural come friends, going to in every department in the, in the country to get an input on the, on what the haitians want. and the desires of may be some changes of the constitution. you know, when the being judges and reforming the constitution create a commission of through. busy isn't reparation so many, many tasks as. busy very daunting tasks in a moment where the huge knows, institutions are in the brink of collapse. so, and it will need a to, to be very independent from the groups that selected human to be in the position and, and trying to em, eh, convenience, the international community to, and support in the massive way they should institutions not only do the restore
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security to through that, when somebody king of the for him personal, then we'll be deployed windham of special mission, but to restore democratic institutions in this traditional period. all right, you've highlighted 2 important things, the restoration of democratic institutions and the dispatch of foreign troops. let me take the question to other one and say, well, will be the mission exactly of canyon troops. and so to, to the, i mean it, while the mission will be kenyan led, the canyons will not be the only ones contributing, been as already pledge to send police. and there are several caribbean countries, such as jamaica believes and that the bahamas were also on board. with the suspicion in this operation, that demanded used to bring back security and support the highest patient police. but that is quite and vicious undertaking that is being considered
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given for now that the kids might empowers us as being formally pledged. we're talking about the southern canyon police officers up to 2000 from the name and a few 100 from the, the time to come country that the committee to participate military. that's another one. i say they're probably not off to the job. i'm not saying that i'm just saying that maybe that will be too serial numbers to uh make a sufficient difference. okay. i could see if i just wanted to get in on that. go ahead. yeah. you really enjoy like when, when you compare the last you envision maybe the wrong 10 times the start button. and we had a different situation. we didn't have a lot of james in front of france. right now. we have the right one for a supervisor and the emily calls now means we uh more funds, more danger, monterey tourism. okay, by my days, and i'm going to have less so the right,
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right. so if you, if you look at the numbers, there's all the daily so, so the people in the, you know, the street walk or maybe we can, we can see that it's going to be the success. but so overall, with the numbers we have to be really seem to go to, you know, just take us to doing no events. what the position is of some of these important groups. and the leaders like barbecue on the question of how they view not on the some of the foreign troops coming in, but also the new prime minister. what i mean for the nation, i do. yeah. said they themselves. they are getting ready for the mission. that means they're getting ready to engage in combat with that. but a prime minister, i've turned it into you so far. but for the mission, i know the be view. you know,
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the forces that are coming to the lady. and so, you know, well, many reasons why this is the same thing, even though the wow. so you and you didn't want to be the want to have the security situation, but it's not. the issue of them is uh, which means that secuity is following for you. so it is be seen on the interruption . but again, i think they are ready to engage and come back to the setting themselves in the yeah, like, uh, media type of what would be the we, we send to you and what is the north showing us? you know, some of the game never was so easy to find. the stands were the only way you know how to, to get to come by categories. so it's the easy task speeds. it's not going to be able to, everybody is going to bob. and then he has gone away from you and you've been a single stop, the national police, you will speak to the county board and do some of the bases. and then he just does, the job is not going to be that easy, of course, because the best situation on the ground is very,
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very curious. and it was as well. and you can see how the nation's yeah. got guns that the people. so we are in for so those are some boxes that are going to come, that i'm going to be very, very so stressing both patient bodies, but also the this. all right, i'm going back to add one for a minute for your analysis. then if that sounds like this can get messy very quickly, is the a backup plan for these forces, particularly what role might the us play and all of this? so for now the us and canada shante that did not want to get involved. the boots on the ground, they're more than happy to fund in train, the personal that is being deployed. but that's it. and even when it comes to funding, there's been some issues with the equipment with the americans suggesting for example, to some of the tell you come countries that they put the bill for the equipment in the us will reimburse them. when the original deal was that the americans were
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going to put everything together so that these troops could going and right now, that's a problem because the, the only forces that know hate see because they've been there in the past, understand the culture and have the expertise particularly in been authoration of the carrington countries, just jamaica bahama so believes there are few numbers, but they're highly competent. well trained, and very professional, and they're on their military. they're not to police. the problem to is that sending police personnel in the context of a been in security that has no particular for price. we've kind of weaponry that the guys have is, is probably going to be a, it cannot be a workable solution because they're getting police isn't really used to fighting and settings, at least not the kinds that you can cut or you h e. nor is the police from the name and a given the 5 power of the games that this feels more like. it should be
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a military operation, rather than the police operation. sounds diego, like a lot of responsibility and pressure on the new prime minister to try and establish his credibility to calm things down and spread the acceptance of not only his administration, but those pals and those forces backing him up. this is not his 1st shot at this job. what kind of track record in history does he bring to the premier ship to? well, she's a very, a typical a person to be appointed in this position right now. and maybe it is quite good news for several and reasons. first, it was that she was appointed by consensus by all the the. busy council members which are not. busy really into the same and like every, every time they and they are trying to make decisions. this time they made this decision together to get one person that is not imposed by any particular sector.
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and in which every everybody an acceptance. and particularly because she's not a part of the political class in haiti, even if she was prime minister at one moment during the day monday to of president mission. and by the 30 she was. busy appointed and she served as prime minister, but only for 5 months. and the in fact she has, she was forced to, to reading to resign. and from this position, because he was contending with president lighting mission of our family and some members of the. busy are meant including, including because he set up an order of commission and then was investigating and i'm covering the corruption in the awarding of a construction. busy contracts. busy and creating and constructing infrastructure after the week of 2010. so somehow she is seeing that not only as somebody who is
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impartial, who is not a who doesn't have strong ties with any particular political group, but also a she's seen of somebody that's and we'll try to come. but the corruption and that's ryan. he is also favorably seen by the international community. this is a critical point, isn't it? the events like how we're going to his background that as a development specialist, how is that gonna contribute to his ability to deal with some of the challenges the country faces? now, what i mean is the international experience with the, you know, with development, i think we do need to do tonight is, you know, someone told me to use experience in the community one to come up with. well, because, you know, yeah, well, the worst president in americans on the, when was specially by all the way and the to the all right, so they know and then on a guy, yeah,
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that's why the community one to okay. so what is the value just saying, i think, i think is experienced, you know, so the fact that you need not do well with me somebody bass going to happen in terms of, you know, twice in the, in the ations the side. but we don't have the, we send people at the beginning ation. so not trustworthy. since they just want to sit back, how do you do want us to use those? of course, the new experience for how it's going to be new. china's any situation. it's not the same on the 2011 and on and the people waiting to see all agreed to be one of the signals. he's been thinking about doing this for us, one of his days. and then if he's going to fall, so we see, you know, that sounds, it is hard to say how is going to, um, you know, what i can do the can do it in the con, the process, quick, clean, then the other one, how critical is it that the new prime is that does deal with,
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particularly the humanitarian crisis in places like so. leo, neighborhood, very quickly and demonstrate to people that he can make a tangible difference to their lives. to. oh, i think that you just said that the problem now is that the haitians of a strong distrust of politicians, which is the by the multiple issues encountered in previous governance. so the window of opportunity for the new prime minister to prove himself as a genius and it's a ruler and curry, a positive opinions from the nation, the public is going to be very, very lead me to the needs that you may need. tegan angle will be critical as well as the security one, so it needs to balance the context where um, she's part of which is leading to the transitional government. so which has not necessarily the, which is not necessarily issued with legitimacy by everyone in casey and it's to
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access. but at the same time, in the context of insecurity which makes any action extremely difficult and challenging. and uh, with the, an international community which is being quite slow besides making speeches in responding to the causes and hiking. so events and he leave a transitional government or transitional sovereignty as one was explaining that. but it lack surprised that and how does that impacts his ability to operate what is going to respond to the position of counsel which acts as a present? so the cheapest possible is the president. so the body's response to the no 9 members, so the members wouldn't be the president, so he's going to respond to, to the president of the plan together until elections within 2 years. right?
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yes. so what we're seeing here is the same scheme of what happened in 2004, you know, the model for the odyssey, you know, design and we had you envision coming to be in the we, someone from your job to do with load requirement is the time to leave the country, it's organizations we secuity is the same thing again 20 years later. so yeah, you know, the personal design last for the city department is to reside. so we have someone coming from the un mission, well, joining creation. and it says, organizations, i'm reading secuity, so it's the same situation right now. it is more challenging. we have a more security issues, young people that on and provide more use before the engage you, if it is and the time is enough. so now how to deal with that we the condition of the cpg to, you know, we secuity shows and also providing services to the, to the, to the coffee. so 2nd sense of deja i've always been here before. it sounds diego,
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like it's a real priority to be able to move quickly beyond this transitional process of fall into pointed the all bodies trying to a point, somebody temporarily to get things together and get to an electoral process and get some elections and elect somebody that has wide credibility in the eyes of people. how soon do you think the country can move towards the elections to oh yes, usa is very. busy and for haitians to start building some, a mazda of trust with the haitian, but need to go to class. that is completely discredited. patients as even was, was saying, don't trust important patients anymore because they see them as the same. they always see the same names the same and met and then the women who have been. busy just and having the power for decades in heavy. so it is very important and this
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time and while a, an advantage now is that most of the political groups are represented even the transitional government. so they won't be any opposition that we've tried to the stuff like these governments. so this is in this a critical point. it is also an opportunity to have competitive elections, to have a political campaigning which no any single. but if you go by and it will have advantages to a board and the plays, that's the political groups. what about the um groups the gangs? and of course a lot of the i meant diego finished. well then we will go to yvonne's, go go ahead. the i got to address the security situation, of course it is indispensable to have some backing up for and security buys and also help the patient police to get to the overhead. and again, you become but against the gangs, but he's also and that's a. busy that he's also needed to have
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a comprehensive way of dealing with this. and it's also very important to separate opinions between the edits and the legal arm groups that isn't a pulling point event. so you wanted to come in with a thoughts on that before we go to add one, go ahead. yes, i wanted to make to look for the 1st time to buy what? um uh if you could just sit about the dishwasher in the dishes, you know, in our and we wanted to talk to you ron, we talked about this if it's 93 percent 93 percent of the respondents do not trust the closest so they can 100 that's always the opportunity to, you know, the to, oh, when by it's all, what was the patients to go to? that's gonna be the other thing is, you know, you asked about it, you know, a child that will change when they form a new electro commission. the we the, we, the, we, the response of the security. so the government, but basically, you know,
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i'm, you know, resolve the situation. the security storage is really the, the system, the so i think we want the mission to succeed. you want the government to succeed. now in the how to actually raise the committee, but at the same time, work on the justice department for the justice. okay. yeah. and we cannot, these are the gang situation. we're not bringing them to justice before i say no, she never done that. they want to know is against the stars they are working for the people. yeah. what is the people beyond patient how she's doing right. so when you're saying like i want to, so you went into human life. i mean, 2 months ago, and i said before, so yeah, what we're going to go now. we will as you know, as well, i'm in the navy and i know the, the sort of the, the people i enjoying getting these not about the policy. so we want the mission to succeed if we want the secuity to the, the, the,
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so less than the how to deal with not only with the situation, but also we've been just assistant because right? maximize to be opportunities. so much, not only the getting started, but the people have the funding that are giving the nominations and people that are giving them anybody to do the least in the country a lot to take a part. yeah. add one. how long can some of those countries which are sending forces to hate the sustain the mission, given that it's, it is not a popular mission bank home in all of these countries, at least, and especially in kenya. right? yeah, so that's a big challenge. there's been a number of legal impediments filed in kenya to stop the deployment, which has been described as a beagle by opposition groups and of yes, terry come countries may be willing to engage a little longer because i hate to use a carry come nation and there is a feeling that they're working with in the caribbean region to improve stability.
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but in general, the ability to sustain in the long term will also be difficult, particularly if there are massive losses of, i mean is canyon. the policeman around boost and several are killed or the same personnel from the new york and countries that may increase the pressure from the public opinions at home to pull out. because uh, to begin with this, this operation is not really popular and actually finding troops finding countries willing to send troops to begin with as being a major challenge in the previous 2 emission. most latin american countries contributed this time. they don't necessarily agree to commit themselves again to the point to haiti, so there's also the danger that the operation gets solved through difficult thoughts. the other contributors may wish to pull out quickly and they may not be other countries to replace them. while it may is because of the
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pieces, right? so even though we have many less number can countries do with leading of course is, is the meanest hospitals being produced. so i don't know, some of the relaxed tends to participate right now because they don't think you know what they need before. right. so now they already know, but i tend to be well state speeding. so the way i see, oh, i definitely, i think we can agree, it's a, it's going to be a tough mission ahead of them. let's hope they can sort this out in the way that's best for the haitian people. that brings us to the end of the show. it's time to think how guess big things to events from both the a good, the rain, and on the chevy se, or, and thank you to, for watching. you can see the show again, any time by visiting our website. i'll just 0, don't com. and for further discussion head over to on facebook page, that's facebook dot com forward slash a j inside story. you can also join the conversation on x 5. is that
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