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to and with managing to produce 2000 cubic feet as per 2nd for this area. the diesel a nation is an energy intensive process with its own environmental impact. the main problem is that it means your job to, to, to the have most of it. so you have a lot of design ition plans. you will increase a lot the images of to, to her so that there's something nation is interesting, but not a lot of scale. the effects of climate change on our reality. and the question of how to deal with it is less a matter of face, but finding practical, lasting solutions. sonya guy, yeah, go out to 0. barcelona studies of football now and real madrid have been crowned champions of europe for a record. 15th time. the spanish giants overcame a strong performance from the russian adult men to secure a to know victory. and the usaa champions league title party force that reports
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from wembley stadium in london to teams with a shed on vision, but very different champions, league histories. since bruce, you do have been lost, reach the final in 2013 round madrid have won the title. on 5 occasions, it was a german c dominated the 1st off at london's wouldn't be stadium. another huge rail keeping people clues was, was it to stretch on more than one occasion, so sorry about the rail wound up in the 2nd half it's pros. so the gross thank is final game for madrid. who's the 1st say, some documents keep the regular cable, but he could do nothing when defend the dummy car of a house turned in across corner to put rail one little up with 17 minutes to go. the this is junior, then put the result the on down the and the 80 to admitted
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to do the final school. really good champions if you were for risk would extending 50 times in 15. perfect. there's a lot of sit on top of you from marie. yeah, wow, it's a, i was very, very happy. i've never seen it live is my 1st time seeing a live plastic plastic madrid when yeah, for me is very special because i'm run by the funds from just years ago when i was so game and the baby is so. but yeah, for me is a special moment competition. the gave to me fantastic happiness. as i play out as a manager and i have deluxe to be the best club in the world. the
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match didn't quite go according to the script. the results certainly did real madrid haven't lost the european final since then. it will be in 1981 more than 40 years ago. but don't minutes the case of what might have been that 27. you wait for a 2nd champions, the trophy continues, are you close it out? a 0 wembley stadium in london. okay, that's it for me. money inside with them and there's lots more information on uh, website out there. don't com, do check it out. the, well, the news continues here on out is era coming up. next is the bottom line to stay with the since he's wells war and gaza. thousands of the stadiums hoping indiscriminately displaced really forces are systematically targeting health care infrastructure.
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hospitals of one of the only safe options to seek refuge until they became targets from wages war from hospital. i've never seen a soldier inside the hospital. out 0 world investigates where the east ran is violating international. no, but targeting supposedly a new crisis doctor on hospitals on out to 0. hi. are steve clements and i have a question with a totally fractured leadership and with international pressure mounting over as were on gaza. we're is, is real heavy. let's get to the bottom line. the, it's been 9 months rolled atlas bombs of tanks and sniper bullets of death and destruction by israel and gaza. but it feels like the war is just starting all over again. negotiations for a cease fire. take place here and there, but any new deal seems like an illusion. now that is real alone controls all entry points into the gaza strip. food and other supplies are barely getting in the is
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really army finds itself fighting on several fronts and gaza on the border with 11 on and all throughout the west bank with no light at the end of this very dark tunnel inside the is really government. some politicians are objecting summer calling for new elections and threatening to a band and is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu saying that his talk of total victory in gaza is a ploy to just keep him in office. and a catchy slogan that in the long run could be catastrophic for both israel and palestine. so what's going on? and what's the in game for israel today we're talking with the don't levy a veteran journalist with the as really newspaper high rats. and he's also author of the punishment of guys that a great to be with you today. and thanks for joining us. let me ask you about is real and it is real. since i'm really interested in this question on what it means from your perspective, to be pro is real in today's israel. by your speed, my,
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my opinion, which is not the very common one. being a weird genuine friend, but it's a means to bush's where to put an end for the school or being a genuine friend to face. little kids about the future means pressure is to put an end to the above, the occupation, nothing but base. what the americans are doing and others is, you know, like a drug and they supply the drug or the is bull money. it would be very happy about t c with the bible drugs, but that's the friendship and that smoke care. how has israel's response sort of blended every one on the palestinian side into being a villain? it was really a very decisive moment. the moment that change the or is ready society in many
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ways because the last to rain. so these are the base care where crushed on these they these right. it is almost all of the including the v 6 of the last. these came to the conclusion that after those the processing fees of the 7th of october, there's a new gave me to know is what it has the right to do with every 2. busy words, guys, i must be punished in any possible way. there is no place for any emphasis to the temper of girls that they've given them. so the church little that i see. and unfortunately, this is betty on this moment when we are almost 8 months after the whole spouse is, as you said, that israel's essential behavior and to some degree you imply that's impunity came from this belief that the bible, that this writers notice that american guarantor and this nuclear research lab down
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the road essentially gave it this unparalleled unconstrained ability to behave any way at once. do you see any part of that equation? if i framed it correctly, coming on done based upon a, that's exactly what they made. i meant that is what it is, trusting the bible, the more now and the ending auto course we, we don't have to forget this being the victims of the order goes. makes is rain is believe they, they have the right to do whatever they want. they, the only trick that i can see now is it really, what are these writers will start to realize that there is no towards the guarantee that or this will happen as they would continue to be a, as a b, a before the sort of the war they already indications for these you are now in dc and you know, what's going on in the campuses in the united states,
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the next generation of decision makers in america, in those campuses, they, we treat is entirely different. this would be a new generation was a new approach strategies a was a, an approach we truly say, ok, we are spending so much of our tech space money on is right. which is an american choice. is easiest way to use the most need based on those, but they must be some foundations. but this idea that we post i'm going to dish. so i really see that syncs might change. now after the 7th of october, and not necessarily for the bed. it gave an easy way to reach really feel better is that you show the salary strains. is it better? here's what i'm interested in, get don't levy being on this island then is real and how many people are in your island and is your population increasing or decreasing?
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as this conflict goes on, i've seen that can or me, in the, in the public support a very short lived. that's a jewels a day post 1st reading to but the other day i was sitting in a cafe in the till i think the sale which is really quite the specter plays. and 2 of my, my friend was a swedish or right to the door of a sudden the woman came to me and really almost touched me with her face and said only one word. well, good traitor. and right away, this is dead. will she rides out saying the truth is treason feeling can proceed with the but his thing is that with the victims is 3, is always the south. both guys of these trees we've never faced. it is that it was or was very concentrated in its own big things in its own programs, which is the,
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the nature of that and send the but, but is with rosen. so 9 to what's going on. one hour late, but we're, we've been orders like so these are the media is everything us to be so blind and not? no worries. a bunch of this long beach the think that's i don't remember such as united such a blind? no, no, no, no warranty? total don't bother us, we should say, don't bother us because of age. if you don't bother us, be a vision. you are. nothing is very pet. you. do you wrote about israel's incursion in the gaza, back in 2009. and if anyone reads this book, it reads is if it's a math for what has on, on, on, uh, happened since then, and it's incredibly pression to about many of the problems. and i mean i,
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i ask you, do you see anything optimistic as you look forward, given the crisis that you 1st punctuated with this powerful book. so you'll see sleep in october, the via the 2nd progress spoke. and i just don't know how the 1st i am ready to fix this. it's more or less a copy of the 1st. hm. uh, i mean, we are the same place overseas and much was place then that might only up to me is the can come from the fact that i or result that he must get much was before he gets better. know the diamond boxes, the boxes really, really need, but is leave it to the size of this riley's will book use not to be taken accountable for any see around them and maybe this will we change it because once it's riley's being big, they can account for the full photos over, but seeing,
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i mean, such horrible things are being done on our behalf. and he's really shows what about the only care about the old dictates which is make sure that you prefer your own victims but not to see the other. so i know it will be very hard for me to, to spread up to me. so right now, because i cannot. i know joe, i don't mistake so now, you know, i mean, if i don't know what could be, who, what leadership didn't make a change as well. but by the end of the day may be we get soto, but there will be no other choice. but change because results are really good change. we will face the same thing until 3 years. again, let me play for you a sound bite of secretary of state anthony, blinking, who's reflecting on the gaza crisis in the future. in the absence of
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a plan for the day after. there won't be a day after. and this is where we need to go. and we need to get as quickly as possible a plan for the day after that does not leave israel responsible for gaza, which it says it does not want to be. but if it is, it will simply have an enduring insurgency on his hands. for as far as one can see into the future or not, if not from us will be left in charge, which is unacceptable. or if not, we'll have chaos. lawlessness and a vacuum that will eventually will be filled again by i'm off for maybe something if it's possible. imagine even worse strategies. i'd love to get your reaction to this person. i oversee the agreed to every word state by the secretary, but it's part of the picture. the other part is that in the, under the circumstances, there are no conditions for the day off. okay,
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we get rid of the comments we achieved. oh, gods of the dresser. i mean, guess that we don't, how must we just turn into a somebody, you guys always come us, we remain comma stuff. there is no way. i mean, this is like change radically. it's empty to the policy. the question, is it or not? you cannot separate guys from the west big. you cannot separate distribution guys from the in, by a big show for good 0 to patient over 56 years. open up update stage. if those things will not be touched, the remaining no solution for the day off the ever means. even expect with their bigger is right by saying that these are doesn't have a plan because these are kids not ever that something does. that get skin looked a bit played moving around god's like holding for blinking in the sub in the,
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in the present circumstance. what does the subject, i mean switch the swiss army always go wrong, doesn't look c. and as long as we don't change the base, she goes, if you, i don't see any, any sort of one of the horrific things we saw televised was the aftermath of a bombing of a camp. in rafa of innocent people 45 dead, many more injured, burned children is really prime minister. netanyahu said that this was a tragic error and a mistake that would be investigated. it was a us bomb, used in this, in this camp. question i have in this is how it is someone in israel who sees the same 40, not think that those kinds of incidents are going to create a new next generation of people with deep grievances who want to settle the score or who want revenge,
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whose parents or children or sisters and brothers were killed in this awful way. how is there no sense of that? that injustice breeds violence? your assumptions, the real close, the boy, you're sure that these ladies watch those scenes? i mean, they will have shown don't see it. i don't want to say that they get rid of show, but it's only about friday because because no, and even of these horrible incident was presented to these ladies in a very so been short way. namely, it happens or seems like this happened, some blame or her boss who is hiding among the day. there is to change there. some use that may be was probably stand additionally to us for nothing but thinking, accountability, not feeling some kind of see those. the
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victims so the base rent is don't even go farther than days. think about the consequences. how we would see that, how we the next, the original. but as they have seen us 1st book to look up on, you said to, to declare, to be touched base to say the drugs, sorry about what the private is disabled. although he said it because they, the initial term in both is these initial call the just is, is, is a like, a, like a the, a, a sides photo. and he now because the old very scared the book, they, we, what we did there, warnings, but he didn't need. obviously, if you want to be safe, most portal, where is the corner? where is the soul row? where is they?
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and let's see was that was the big, big sport, say not single feed you're, we are asking of the money, the old world to full. sure. i go to the about the hostages. jeremiah told me about the king soldier, but we don't spare any motion. spell that will fix it. i listen to some is really cabinet officials to say that any move towards the ceasefire. any consideration of israeli withdrawal would be a gift for hum us. how is that equation playing out? and is there any, are there any dissenting voices that we should listen to and that you think are serious? it seems to be your boss last week and the in a very interesting conference and i met some people that they just knew meds as well. senior people in the category administration and they're on the door, they, we don't have a bus, i mean, isn't, is, is not the process for the right. it's very clear from here that this government
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gave up on the digits. there's no other feel jewish and that anyone can get accept of these. from the beginning, you collect the claims of jesus. what it is is maybe make a choice between the war is what is it was the judge. you have to choose between the tool because the toby to not be achieved to get is right. yeah. and it shows the continue the war under the say, the notion of the war, teammates victory crushing, come us, which was never had been a listening. but by this we gave up on their hostages and therefore i don't see any beating the talking day so weeks. no way is what it is of interest. so you don't, i want to read you something i'm sure you've seen before, but it's a classified cable that was released as part of the wiki, leaks, and releases and, and in this cable state department official says,
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is really officials have confirmed to embassy officials on multiple occasions that they intend to keep the guys and economy functioning at the lowest level possible consistent with avoiding a humanitarian crisis. another which is real surrounding gaza seeping it at a bare subsistence level. this is years ago. i'd love to get your thoughts on this . you probably have written about this cable before, but when i read it, you know, i get goose bumps down my back because i've seen, wow, that is a really incredible state base plan to never proceed with anything other than bear subsistence for a large number of people essentially under your, under your control from the exterior steam, how is can you explain the siege? oh my god. so which is always 17 years. so almost 18 years. no. there's no other explanation for the siege, but what do you have just quality?
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we don't do this cable. when is the boat is siege overdoes? uh, what do you just think that they do? it's reinforce 4 guys, sperry div pretty though, you know, facial eh, what's, what kind of, oh, when you put 2 points, really people in the biggest, changing the words, what did you expect when you come out to speak? but the problem is that the international community and do it as it states on top of feed, a listening, baseless a, as long as the 1st thing is being shots, the whole world was very different that what the siege and this is so critical because the world rosie guys will 17 years to the fact that easily is doing your global war, but should be full. the war by booking 2 points, show me the beeping there is open j in the world. the world,
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the world said nothing about you. believe we're seeing israel commit genocide in gaza. i was stay so here i, there's also to be billed for because it's all about the quote. now to the side is, is it the general side bundle? i will quote my says was or the state. why don't my basis was it the 13 highly to the type if it's not general side was easy me and i know the general. busy through christ, i'm conditions, i mean the legal definition requires a intends i don't think this is only government got a decision on the 7, so 8, so or 9. so for october we are going for a general side. did you guys know this was not the case? it was also booked for be about the data compares and it was not also
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a planned for a finance solution. hm. oh gosh, no. but they all come speaks about it says this mess keeping a how else can you describe me that means i need 15000 sure of the imagine use of this been so she doesn't think you how can be courtney and the terror campaign? oh, it was kind of worried, so the general side maybe is to to a sense of duty because of the story. but isn't the, the mess given shortage is investigating? isn't it proven or sure it is coming down how have scheduled someone to find me. i know there's been even the question, but i didn't mean that. what if the court say this itself, the genocide, it's a big thing. it's not, was those figures? was this re edit the when you show bomb for neighborhoods?
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when, when you can 45 people refugees, we 6 joseph level to every so not there was where i think the bill. you're right. so p 45 people for 2 years. i mean in the 45 years. okay. and what about for the 58 percent people for one theories, it's ever this. and it's driven to just finally, and i'm interested in the political moment and you know, i'm always careful in this because this may be wrong but, but there are some that are saying if the elections were held today and is real, that, that prime minister netanyahu might be back in power may be in powered by this moment . if elections were held in palestine. how mos, uh may very well when, you know, if you agree with that. i mean, the question is, what if anything has been achieved in this conflict in before? and that's, it wasn't shift for sure. look for these,
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right. i mean is way over the last is there's a bunch simulate you run this is way and can and, and show i love show the now we'd be re elected but it's unbelievable that there is a good chance of the program this steve and jerry that brought that picture becomes even more, it'd be pressing that even if you need stepped out, even the field plays the evenings. brittany gotten sort of fees or wherever we, we those selections. so we'd be truly, can change the world. we get out of its way. they, we know how good the human would because their own rating with any out the home that everyone we want to meet, then you elect the prime minister and, and a, he might even go and meet. they might well the positive role model. but we need to come to the call, he shows continuing the war. continuing, the patient continuing. the process is seem to read the big change. i have news for
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you. oh and useful. i will, viewers, don't expect too much. well, we'll have to leave it there. really appreciate your candor is really journalist and author and you don't levy thank you so much for being with us today. a thank you, steve, for those one of the 4 questions. so what's the bottom line? we have seen this script before, weaponized nationalism, the human eyes, the enemy mix in fear and paranoia. and while all politicians get an noxious brew to build their power base, it happened in the us when it was driven by revenge to attack iraq. and the killing of hundreds of thousands of iraqis was rationalized by the same token motivated by revenge supporters of israel, or rationalizing the unrelenting assault that is killed tens of thousands of innocent palestinians. those who are raising questions about the solvency of israel's actions are labeled anti semitic, or is anti israel or as racist, or bigots. my guess today is calling out the leaders of his own government. but the
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sad truth is that few share those using the don't levies country. israel is far away from introspection and rationality, and it's mostly still manically focused on the indiscriminate destruction of gaza. there shouldn't be any illusions that this phase is even close to being over, especially with washington's blanket support. and that's the bottom line, the a pod. his aim interviews is israel and obstacles piece. i think that the new thing you have on his government with these 5 digit, you say getting less of a thought provoking odd since the e. you made weapons being used in guns. no guns should be used in an offensive way . that's our facing realities. you're running, mean what does he bring to the table? hard from being presidential, could we go to some we cannot take the fact that he was signing up with an s not
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that important effective. he had the story on talk to how does era the colleges here with the illusion of anti semitism with opposition to design is a, it's cynical and it is harmful, a dangerous completion between the persecution of a people and the criticism of the state is echoing across the world news rooms and to send me keys in the hatred of jews because the country is honest and he's not about to lose it's about teacher. and we need to talk about design is a listing co special on his jersey to interrogate the narrative. there's no question about it. the united states is effectively complicit the genocide challenge the rhetoric. yes, a unique the correct, but so is the international community upfront only without
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the a drawing as hung up a lack of medical care and we were poor still applies of goals as children, enjoying israel sees the funding site. this is out there in life. so coming up rescue teams looks as the volume is engulfed, especially office is rarely stripes on a residential complex skills re palestinians including a child.

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