which is a met with the talent. she selflessly seems the role of medic let nothing. cooper pass for the personal cost of fighting for $100.00 baghdad on fine witness on our cassandra us ceasefire plan has started heated debates. and israel benjamin netanyahu is worn by his allies that their coalition will collapse with the acceptance from us and positive work still needs to be done. so crude president joe biden's proposal and the war on god. this is inside story, the hello and welcome to the program. and 0, then yay. another proposal to end the war in gaza. us president joe biden has announced a 3 phase plan. he says, pays the way for

a ceasefire in the strip. but the challenge now is how to get both israel and how mazda accepted the white house, argues that if the group accepts this deal, then israel will too. but as soon as it was announced, prime minister benjamin netanyahu, his allies threatened to quit his government if he treated it positively. and netanyahu himself has reiterated what he's been saying since october. some that almost must be destroyed, and he is really captives and gaza returned. so does biden's deal stand any chance of success? we'll talk to our guest in a moment 1st. so this report by, if this i'm going for it is time for this war 2 and a firm declaration from us. president joe biden putting forward when he says is in his really proposal to end the war of the 3 phase plan includes the withdrawal of troops from populated areas of garza, the release of as rarely, captives and exchange for hundreds of palestinian prisoners and deliveries of age into the strip on the streets of tel aviv protest is calling for the return of

a 125. as waves still held in garza had a clear message for their government. i'm here to force my government in taking these views, these business and you all suggest is our prime minister. this with guest or people back home. how much the officials have to take. know they're viewing the proposal favorably, but not so he's way the leaders a benjamin netanyahu called it a non starter saying come us need it to be eliminated before the walking in the fall. right? ministers have repeatedly refused any ceasefire and threatened to quit his coalition. government, something the prime minister wants to void. the washington says how masses, military capabilities have been reduced enough to avoid a new october 7th scenario. and the moment has come for a 6 week pause in the fighting, followed by negotiations and the construction of the strip is rarely,

soldiers have destroyed 50000 homes in gauze as north and left its largest refuge account and ruins. busy during the 1st is really incursion, my shop was destroyed and we managed to reopen it off the summer pace. now off to the 2nd incursion, as you can see, there's nothing left. even if they demolish the shop one small, i'll stand firm and one's leave. the us says it's almost takes the deal. israel will to, a similar plan was accepted by the palestinian group last month rejected at the last minute by israeli leaders between delays and contradictory statements. more work is likely to be needed before any ceasefire can be agreed until then. palestinians can only hope that if that happens, they'll be enough left in garza to salvage. so if this i'm getting food, i'll do 0 for inside story.

all right, let's bring in all our guests in tel aviv alone. leo is a former is really foreign ministry spokesman and ambassador in montreal moines rabbani is a non resident fellow at the center for conflict and humanitarian studies williams, also co editor of the online magazine. jetta leah in washington dc i for sure i had met is the senior diplomatic correspondent for huff post. welcome to inside story to all of you. i want to start with a very quick a temperature take on on this following question. and i'm hoping for now just for yes maybe or no answer. do you think the moment that we're in now is ultimately going to lead to a ceasefire alone in the morning? probably not at the bar. maybe i'll probably mouse. okay, so that was useful. so not a great deal of optimism as,

as far as the ceasefire plan is concerned. let's get into the details of it as far . what was the play for bite on friday he delivers this surprised speech. i think it was a surprise for many he presents what he says isn't, is really planned, but since then we've understood there's some daylight between but he's the one who's presenting it, which 1st of all is a little strange. and secondly, we've understood there's daylight between him and the israelis on it. what was the play for the u. s. president? is so important to remember sort of by the administration, by sale, working on this situation. right. they're not thinking about american leverage over israel in terms of military military diplomatic support. other forms of support for the device that make fee is really offensive possible. right, so biden is not saying as he did a few weeks ago. i'm with folding bombs unless you do this. what he's done with this with this other thing in the play is rely on the by the ministrations preferred battlefields, which is the battlefield of narratives. right?

so they want to say, look at us, we are reasonable and in fact we are still with israel with how do you this is the is really proposal. and obviously that's very hard to do. or do you have a clear thought with these pretty side 1st, but the hold for the by ministration was by same way with israel. we are lying on this, the ball isn't hell. i'm off his thoughts that creating an avenue in their view for israel to come from what they see as the logical conclusion. yeah. right. which is editing the site and for now allowing and humanitarian easing the crisis all of that to say so. i mean, if it's not that tough with a real push from the us side, it's really hard to see if that's all you need more than spend, right, or trauma, i was talking of the state. so the state department official type level form who is saying, look, netanyahu has already told us this isn't going to matter unless the consequences. so now for a lot of people in washington, including people in the administration who are involved in creating this, right,

that's not a huge amount of optimism. and in a we were reading for the next few drops of the facts. you was the president announcing that sudden speech and now it is bill by who create any consequences for letting me all alone. as we mentioned in the intro, you headed israel's foreign ministry previously. how do you read this moment? the u. s. president saying, here's a deal by the way, it's israel's deal. yet he's the one presenting it and his real doesn't completely agree with that. it seems. and the by his, his to expose the, the, and all the is what he says say that it was really worried that the children out a, he bought it from the fed as the s. and they just want to get back to now go ahead and you know,

is already costing you 90 a, which was a said that is by the drive to they go directly to the is waiting probably the bottom of the head of the now. and then this is the brightest read day. i think it's the best plan you can get by. we need the necessary brush or even ways also. okay. will they go ahead and do the pressure on the side store? i personally think that the state of the american stage, you is this ghastly with the, you know, the funding biologically, the that she was invited to address the chorus full to know who is full. there she is. the judge. the 2nd

one we've, we've been to address that is the excuse to boston and say, i would explain the american people at the risk. well the about to moines. so a long mention something that netanyahu has been invited to speak before a joint session of the us congress. and he wasn't invited just by one congressional leader or just by the republicans. no, he was invited by the senior all the senior congressional leaders, senate house of representatives, republican and democrat, even by the way, for our viewers, who notice in some detail this story, even by chuck schumer, the senate leader wright, who has been extremely critical of net. yeah, when called for election, so they all called for net, you know, to come, how do you read that? how does that play? how does that factor into this a well, based on was what mr. leo just said. i think it's clear that if biden thinks he can

go over it, and it's an yahoo, who's had an appeal directly to this really public opinion, it's in fact and it's in yahoo who can go over biden's, had an appeal directly to us, politically. it's and, and us voters, i think the background here is, is quite strange as the other 2 speakers have indicated. it was a us president who publicly presented what he claimed as an, as rarely offer or something is real or has already agreed to. then these really prime minister suggests actually what biden presented is somewhat different than what is real. had agreed to then that the senior us official says in fact, use rarely use proposed the formulated this proposal. but that so and confidence and asked us not to make it public, which by the end of course did putting the ball squarely in the palestinians court

. and now you have very senior is really government administer saying they know nothing about it. that if israel agrees to it, they're going to collapse the coalition who's lying, probably all of them. and this is, it's just too much, it's too much for words that i think it's a failure is being set up to once again. place the blame of the palestinians. and the 2nd point i would make is, is that the by didn't, has repeatedly engaged in such maneuvers where he's seeking to exercise pressure on these really leadership. but the moment these rallies refuse to bend to such pressure or push back us pressure collapses, and it ends up being pressure on the americans rather than on the use release. with to that point, x bar, you're in washington dc. you're talking to our sources in, in and around the administration and the political orbit. right. of the button administration worth were 3 days removed from the speech. how do they feel about

their move 3 days or do they think master move? we've kind of pressured, you know, these really is they're going to have to do something or do they think, oh, we might find ourselves with on our faces. i would add again, i think is still a degree of confidence. it's not a high level of confidence. the basic degree of confidence they can get it somewhere. i can move point was to find about american political leads opinion, right? one thing that this administration has been a street off since october, the southern, given the historical scale of the tops and the end of trauma, but not just the very thought of many, many people in this country with ties to israel. jewish americans, a lot of the administration has been extremely paranoid about looking him sufficiently close to israel. and the that may sound to people who are saying, look 2600 pounds, the names that the more is the low any over time. and that's on the we have you really nothing close to us? these varies for the buying team that's still a dominating team. right?

so that's still very much can be part of that calculus as letting young comes to congress. on the flip side, this was also political speech to be devised, not just within the i to posit, suffering, and an i to israel security, but pretty much in the presidential election. right. and so that thinking from a mazda throw perspective, maybe we can make all sides happy. right now. these really fight isn't happy. you also seem are, but most of the americans who have been really critical of vitamins come out and say precisely what a little bit of what lane is saying. you're putting the ball on palestinians are going to bring them. and also saying, how is this where they are this many months since the war and we biden's own sort of see the limit on rough uh, being cross tv right. as these add all these sorts of unhappiness, as you might remember, they're still been is, are these sites within boston? franklin still funded by an hour close to a month of no, a being loud in medical or food or any of that. and so i don't see who the

administrators was making coffee, but they are a group that says, oh, so yeah, that can on, on this issue, i want to pick you up on a point you just made that the us administered by the ministration is quote, paranoid that they might appear in sufficiently close to is real. that's what you said. so what i wanted to show our viewers understand is divided administration for as much as they've tried to placate the pro palestinian demonstrators on campuses. they've tried to show it since the beginning of the war that they care about palestinian suffering and they've come out of so often, belatedly, but they've, they've come out with statements and supported palestinians, etc. you're saying that the bottom line, political calculus for them is they need to be close enough. the israel a need that's. that's 2 aspects of that, right? one is the son mentally. the political lead in this country across both bodies is over by the pro israel by. they may not be to not know, but they believe in the us as a alliance. it's a long standing relationship,

and that includes people in democratic party, right? so when you have beat us, you might come out and say, i the one that in yahoo, the sub to soul that there's law. maybe we should read something in this relationship. the subtext says, i don't like dealing with this guy on the other end of the phone, getting someone else on the upper and phone. and then there is a question of join us as a question of how is this going to affect by this reflection? so by and by the, for instance, how the of bombs for israel in me, you saw hines, the bon, i mentioned on the product funny join us directly, reach out to some of the vitamin stop. let's put advisors and say, why is the practice of doing this? this is a 1000000000, right? who's given tons of money, democrats. and he, he felt lots of comfortable reaching out to the presence of little advise. he doesn't beat that to several reporters. so that's huge political pressure continuing. yes, there's some more, more concessions for both profiles sitting inside the instinct, physically funnels' group auto select button is, am i doing? announced to me for israel sighed happy. okay, so let's,

so that was the us political calculus. let's talk about netanyahu's political calculus and whether it has changed in the last 3 days. one thing is not a surprise at all, is that the far right his far right ministers? i said, we don't want this deal because what they don't want to end the war, right? they want to keep fighting against some us. that's not a surprise. we know that they haven't changed their if you, however you're in the paid heavy opposition has said to netanyahu, if you lose the far right, by accepting this deal, you lose their support. you've got our support will have your back and you'll keep some form of coalition in parliament and therefore you will keep your job. do you think that you know who would do that? so it wasn't by the speech to these shop. the vision inside age, right? about the replacement arrives in the center list and the business says no surprises with the right. it also surprises when i sent a letter to these people. how did they went to me and they slam eh,

what people. so be in addition to the vision here in the mail, the in the go in a position to do it. what else do we arrive? oh, wait a 2nd here. there's 2 options. so the heavy it is, the latest is when the why don't say by the way they are the way the black a didn't see everything in writing. so that was kind of the but the desire to be immediately get the softball. but this when we, when he breaks he is, is storing the windex we brian and already just balls. and the

time the, the, and all these the go go is so a, she can chose the, basically the rest of the do we want to be lay the ball was it gives you the american people best explain exactly what is the way. i'm almost sure the f b in the boss in just a role. that's what still, no, he would be. think you would be welcome to the hero by a joint session of the us congress. even under the present circumstances. a reminder this this he's been invited. it's between now and the next 8 weeks, i believe by then by then arrest warrants may have been issued against him by the international uh, criminal court for crimes against humanity. we don't know, but that seems very possible at this point. the the,

the is so much experience and then congressional spaces that he wanted to speech is a, is that the best he right? just really just the, this is best all inside the is that close inside the homeless and he's a fantastic speaker and they get gum bed least sell the chorus also. they usually be bad about cuz people don't. mm hm. oh, go see the rest of it matches and they probably don't know what the show is to be. and we say one is where. so i think, you know, may not be some on the face is direct is not flossing

more before we really be 0. going to just forget about the slab. when we started this conversation about the driving question was whether this moment might compel both sides israel and hum us to accept a deal. we've been talking a lot about netanyahu. i have a better understanding of the political calculus on the us side, the really side. no one has said so far. yes. and that yeah. who is now into the gun to accept this deal? do you, do you agree with that? there's no particular pressure on him that there was no ready to accept a deal. i think that's a fair characterization as, as you've seen nothing yahoo has come out with public statements about the deal that he appears to be the one who formulated it. saying that yes, we will agree to a temporary cease fire during which we um engage in the exchange of captives

. and then 6 weeks later, our genocidal assault on the gaza strip will resume and will continue until i have masses destroyed. look um, i do believe that both the us administration and these really governments are operating on the basis of narrow, partisan political calculations. but i also think it's much more than that. even if there were no us elections this year. by the end is most senior officials have had a lifelong, passionate attachments to israel for, throughout their political career. they have seen palestinians as less than human and essentially as irrelevant, an expendable human scott. and so they really have no problem with what is real is doing to the palestinians in the gaza strip in terms of reducing also the entire

territory to revel as far as invest in yahoo is concerned. yes, of course, he would like to remain in power in order to avoid the consequences of the various legal cases that have been directed against them. but it also goes far beyond that . on october 7th was for the is really political and security leadership. a failure of historic proportions and the primary reason they're continuing to prosecute this war is so that they can make some kind of strategic achievement so that when they have to take responsibility of and for their failures afterwards, they can claim that they compensated for october 7th by, for example, eliminating the mass leadership expelling the population to sign or destroying timeouts as military capabilities and so on. and what i think the us is doing now

is basically telling these rallies. you have failed for 8 months. you're not going to succeed. but the next 8 months, and it's really time to put an end to this before the entire region blows up. but again, when advice and persuasion is not backed up with pressure and leverage, it's just empty words. alone i have a, a wide question for you. a big picture question for you on israel strategic vision, because i haven't heard a strategic vision being articulated, whether it's by golan, whether it's by netanyahu. none of the leaders have said, this is what we want for i, you know, it's, it's in vogue to say the day after that, even before this war there didn't appear to be a strategic vision by israel on. how do we live with palestinians, right? if you take gaza westbank and israel, they're about 7.3 is really 7.3 palestinian. so there's an acute question of how do

we live together or side by side, what's the arrangement? and israel has done a annexation settlement, occupation blockade, and regular wars with gaza. you were someone who you were director general of the foreign ministry. how is that question sort of tackled within the, the community as the story today? i think the years ago there was a nice, really vision of the states. the years ago, these vision was some of the sides and they got one man like be that he said no space, nobody's doing yesterday. and was trying to say she was all feet in the west bed. a sold in border say before was the was very clear. no, but a serious big the state because

the so called and the we say know why? we are being the horrible war. it which we lost already. 1600. eh, people eh, let me finish this for the come all. it was the all the i've see it. so i do this one is what the long the is what is the way to been to maybe the side of the future i'll do is i far and i think it's probably going to be the final question. do you get a sense, what is your sense of the vitamins administration is next move they have. they have laid out a plan. they are daring both sides to accept it. what next?

but i just want to quickly pick up on something, lots of times what it was quite important that the it's read these have very clearly even pre october 7 moved away from a 2 state solution frame look and sort of by him and his face. them us, that's been the top so right. that's been the cover for that piece of allowing and supporting occupation and, and that assuming you know, it's really company hands on a legible crime. this has been but one day when, when they got to tuesdays prior to october 7th, advisor ministration essentially was saying, where can you not even talking about that again? right. so this is now back to the floor. i think that gets to this question of what's the next news for them because they have not shown an interest in a long term solution and settlement for the cities and palestinians. that's never been that. how already some of them, i, you know, wayne pointed out have had a lot of some kind of positions about simians. i think they don't know what to do next. i think that really, really hoping that the media says addictions in the countries can play

a big role. yeah. important. remember that egypt has side of our pcd with israel and like the risk that something is relevant can call the nitrate calculus. but i don't think you've seen a bi immunization reach a decision on we'll pull this back on because the military operations are ongoing. and then i'll stop in the military support there in a corner of annual meeting, right. they don't really know how to get out and so that reflects is on questions. lots the photos, support phrase rail. the more as you all can see, why being persecuted. i c. c warrants your, which have since i've gone to the, by him and station will say, oh my gosh, i sorry, we have to show you even more support despite heavy everything we've seen over all these months or okay, or thank you. that's all the time we have for today's discussion, but i want to thank all our guests along leo and wayne rabbani a partial ahead of met. thank you to for watching the program. you can see it again, any time by visiting our website alpha 0 dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com,

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