so must wages war from hospital? i've never seen a soldier inside the hospital. alger 0 world investigates where the east ran is violating international. no, but targeting supposedly a new crisis doctor on hospitals on out to 0 today and it has the world's largest number of displaced people and the majority are facing sam is often more than a year, a conflict for fighting is now spreading to other areas. so what will bring an end to this conflict? this is inside story, the welcome to the program and several then you the people have sedan faced, the devastating conflict for a little more than a year. no millions of people have been displaced, thousands have been killed. now there's a threat of famine agencies or warning. the nation of 49000000 people is at risk of

collapsing. sedan sits in a strategic area of northeast africa with 7 other countries, sharing borders and resources such as the nile river. so what are the regional implications of this conflict, and what can the international community do if anything, to bring? so then back from a nationwide food emergency, we'll put this to our guests in a moment. first though, this report from image and camp, they want sedans become the world's biggest humanitarian crisis. 18000000 people are going hungry. time is running out for millions of people, including $3600000.00 acutely malnourished children quad risk of famine. and they have displaced from the lands, living on the bottom and, and cut off from here when he, terry and 8. he added a farm and will likely take holes in parts of the country. some production site, it could be 500-0028 1000000 deaths and it is very difficult to deliver.

when it gets through, it may be looted. fortune, you know, to 0 provence, dealt the bread boss, get the country as well as and with more than a 100 people recently killed in the tax length on the rapids support forces. and this means even less to be produced. 70 percent of health facilities and more affected areas and no longer functional according to age groups. with increasing parlance and hunger, that would be more refugees. knowing 1000000 people have already being displaced most internally but 1800000 set to neighboring countries, egypt, chad, ethiopia. and so i'd say don, who is a result of the conflict again moving here, we're going between the omi and power minute tree rapids. the peak forces general up to thought to overhead is leading the seed needs on forces. we will not submit, nor will we retreat to a surrender until they lay down their weapons. these back

to will definitely. and did you pick tree of the suit and these people and the victory of the suit and these armed forces. while mohammed hung don zacalo as the head of the rapids support forces once before a kid by the seed of these only possible genocide has been reported in western doleful by the records of painful season there. otherwise, getting up to 15000 people, the intense pointing continues in an old fashion in those doleful states pocket control by the sudanese army among which is not 3rd tuesday or a south and other groups. one of the things that to me captures just how invisible and or if this war is, is the we don't have a credible discount. we literally don't know how many people have died possibly to a factor of 10 or 15. the number was mentioned earlier, 15230000, something gets at 850000. tarianna also says the conflict is at risk of escalating

the weapons flowing across borders. of the people of c done, there appears to be no end to the suffering image in kimber, alters era the inside story, the time to bring in our guests in cairo. i'm god for read as kind of executive director of the sydney's think. think fit griffith studies and development, and addis ababa, dr. le didn't know good. a leadership member of the pro democracy movement. the civil democratic forces alliance. and in boston, alex devolved executive director of the world peace foundation based at the fletcher school at tufts university. a warm welcome to each of you. i'm good. let me start with this. is it possible at this point to say who is winning this war? we're about 12 months, 14 months into this who's winning the safety service, but actually the no one is a, uh, this is our, uh, so between 2 back actors are both losing as the biggest loser. the existing varies,

varies uh in the back of easy because i'm getting the car back to the bar around the with the army or be lose huge ground. i'm beginning to ground the song of a is, but it's losing going over all over the control over that can be kind of the same thing as all as if you decide to use me, she has a mover and so not to have a project to hold on just a series, no. uh, any uh, sign of normal life. easy to use. uh, control by exotics. and uh, you know, recent design, some of the piece of deals, international initiatives and uh, competing these airforce designs. uh, move on to the, you know, uh, be done on no mobile phones in bringing in to uh to the company. uh, everybody's moving on one of the, this is, is, um, somebody needs me to use it other than i'm going to put essentially the same

question to you. when i speak to my son needs, colleagues, they're telling me that you know, within their circle of friends and relatives, the general consensus is yeah, the, our staff is gaining ground. the, our staff has the upper hand. what does it look like to you? a book you sent to assess for having me here. yeah, i think uh, what have you said is that the to that uh the bbc reading before industry days. people that i barely told me to turn in crisis. uh, like number of getting to the best people, if i mean hours on that that is that can you already post but yes, as you said, the many when you speak with me on this are day, he's going to say that the other stuff is getting the handle on the ground but but yeah, the actually question our, the importance of was the ministry shields before who didn't benefit from before. and this is always. ready uh, point to the most it brotherhood or the ncp the lot. did you, did you sold

a bunch of people that national congress bought the that was already in the country for the 2 years? and then religion was, uh, what uh, the reason was from them and they, they get now from father. and these be what i can say vantage, why do you say they are the beneficiaries of this war? yeah, just a simple question because uh they are getting use of this water uh to put this thing that needs to be put between the choice. busy continuing door with all their properties and they are going back to color because in the transition and uh after the insurance this uh part to get his sold from all the social life, all the institutions were on their ministries and their biggest for this in the security secondary in the i mean the parties and instead of just about to be the both for this month. so that's why they did this more, especially the human that was asked to be this marketing this uh,

this bottom from the bottom, you know, from the security. so here are a choosing the stuff orders that you're choosing the supporters of a former president who has no jail tomorrow this year. and who is deposed of instigating this conflict between the recess and the army so that they could ultimately prevail on a over a, a subsequently broken country. yeah, exactly, exactly. does this exactly what happened the disorder and the one of the team they have like 4 did not understand what the, what the file i'll be over in this world. i actually need to finish on the audits and most importantly, to finish on the civil side and the civil coordination that is at the, the submitted a 45 days on the function. if you want to use the payment, i can even because it's pretty much a month, one of these and see the other thing very clearly in this part of the general season, i guess it operates on 66 hour days or 2 weeks,

and then they go to the destruction of painful section of the country. that is, this would i need him to help and to, to inform this what i chose, that they can be by the team to explore. and they both are deceiving and what is the not happening right now? they stuck into are all the people and as been the head to the speech between the, between the tribes. so this is obviously not as of this uh, alex, you've been a student of sedan for decades. does that explanation that we just here match with how you look at the situation? because we, we are talking about this conflict as a conflict between 2 parties, the are assessing the army and now they have the intel of this bill. he's telling us there's a 3rd party that's operating in the shadow of to, to try and be the victor essentially after the, after the, are assessing the army have, are done killing each other. i'm paraphrasing here. so i think see the exact origins of the outbreak of fighting some 1213 months ago.

always going to be contested to those accounts. and narrative septic was actually an under attempted. cool. by general, i meant to you are assess that was the immediate trigger on this no doubt that he has his science on, on the holding part and putting pumps to pay a civilian from to that. but i think the key point is that the fighting his starting point described was the state. now it's destroying the certain these people, the question of the survival of millions of secretaries is in doubt. and as the war has gone on without a credible or an effective conflict resolution process, it has become entangled in regional and now doable rival rates. so until recently, i think the argument could be made that the keys to resolving this light in the air and welding and re out an apple dumpy. but now out of desperation,

i think because the suit, the signees armed forces has turned to the wrong. and to rush, while the uh, the r assess is, is dumping down on its alignment with united arab emirates. and this is making an attempt to resolve it in almost impossibly complicates. and we will drill down on the, the regional tentacles of this conflict. but since you've all mentioned obviously that the, the biggest loser here is the sidney's people that we do want to put this highlight this and put this on the map right now. earlier in the conversation, this is alex arguably the biggest humanitarian crisis in the world, right? it is a numbers, the biggest displacement crisis in the world. there's no debate about that. more than 8000000 people have been displaced in some internally, some of cross borders and they've become refugees. so biggest displacement crisis in the world. but also there's a fam and moving for millions of people. so if,

if gunther is the most intense episode of the best of ation and of the well today sit on is the launch is by magnitude. the numbers of people affect to the numbers like to, to die. and it comes about not just because of google, but because of the result, legacies of previous was the people who were displaced and previous was enough for and the new by mountains the, the food crisis and the collapse of the economy need. but most particularly the fact that the 2 key belligerents of both using stop ation as a weapon. so we are assessed, we can characterize as a live between machine eval, with every wherever it carries, like a swell have loved because it consumes everything necessary for survival, leaving the people absolutely desperate. while we ami generals on the other side, are you trying to strangle the are assessed by shutting off or material

access all surprised to carr seth control areas in the hope. so that will bring the, the reset to its knees and in the process the suit. and these people are co, isaac, where between a 100 pounds though, and descending into ferment on, on a scale. but we haven't seen pull foot for decades. it's f. so good, both sides, both the, the r assess and the army have been accused of atrocities and violations of international law and human rights law. the r assess, in particular, is notorious they using sexual violence and for using starvation white. and i forgive me for this now you've question 14 months into the conflict, but why? why do they inflict all this pain on civilians whom their purport eventually at some point in time to govern if they win this war? that indeed is a whole is taking place. as i said earlier between 2 about 5,

since we use a quarter of this be the scroll distributed solution that has been going up the by many small files by any. and when you call me and i go to the bottom part of those, all this is ease fields in nature. it's a 5 she needs. yeah. so as long as you stop by then, but if you want the brought the keys there. uh, by the brother on to uh to do the visa, most of these teams, they're behind drive. now they are conducting the same sort of activities and so forth. disabled services say a bit 6 year, one how tools it can be used buying to provide the things that people buy. we need, uh, their products. and this is also maybe going to, uh, one of the factors that room g as a whole, which is, which is the easy because then that is how about to start the one who was

benefiting from me. so i didn't do as far as the sir for the jim dot like so i'm, he's, let me just do the uh, which allow me to get the people that they're doing. they go on all of this. that is one of the all mean, all of the dispute by the people inside be resolved on it or x, different things on. if i have an actual the this was due by the diesel, the, i can easily seduce on the bottom of the difficult repeat the same time on. but you can grab the changes before we leave this within use um, united states. i believe those in general without exactly be just clear to some already been met. it is. that's the last i would say to them be about to stop is

old. all is me jimmy, the sausage or even before the um. like getting him to complete the deals and trying to create the tentatively energy store disabilities are located from zach joseph. these homes are here. so killing the day before yesterday the the honors don't over 100. the cd. you're getting a lot small. you need to give a one, the more on the stand it on the installer to give you the speed of the sake. we're just going to do some good things. a little foggy, if this is a small city, they want to see the 5 users that they were 55 generally by, i mean go by the duties that are, that are on time legal, the exact those 35 just really where they send me is binding again, his dollars. yeah, they are assess at that they were actually fighting uh,

the army in 3 camps outside the village that was ultimately attacked, the army and intelligence forces and the, the, the local civilian groups that have organized for a few years now in sedan across the country have said that more than a 100 people were killed, the u. n says if called for an investigation and we don't know the exact circumstances of what happened. but there were, there were videos that came out of that of that attack that clearly showed many, 00. can you do the probably this is the just man and i told him that we don't exactly don't know exactly what happened once. we know that there is 100 of these people that needs to get here to my daughter. so if the 5 of their monitor be very small distribution for that, there is no way to access that part of the 100 pounds. uh the yeah, the the, the you ingles, these are really about law. yeah. because usually it's not. if it's the case it is

there is mobilizing the seeds drive is probably leaving of unity chosen the beautiful this at the heart price. all the things these prices. yeah. no, look, the un wasn't saying, we're not sure if the, our staff is behind is that you and just wanted more information that did say that the videos emerging out of that event were absolutely heartbreaking. i haven't heard any voice in this conflict who came out and said no, the are as if is not behind this just to be just to be clear about that. you when you do so from the i think it's the only these thoughts. uh uh, the honest if you don't know, so for me is that there are people. what do you just define the circumstances towards the honors? it'd be in a conflict. any conflict usually ends when either one side wins or when both sides come to the negotiating table. and strikes some kind of deal. do you see either of

those options happening that there's been many piece efforts? none of them have come through between the are assess and, and the army. and it also doesn't look like one side can convincingly wind militarily. okay, that's, that's an important question and actually to ask this question is important to have a better yet and to, to a negative data. so i'm just just say that to be executive, actually it's and making the portal $0.50 is what i mentioned in this country or 30th the price. now there are 2 sides of that right now. there are 2 sides fighting as the are assessing the army. they are the ones we're deciding sedans, future right now. uh, yeah. but, but actually, but actually the, once you put the, the mold, the little yellow t boned default. busy and the what i was benefiting from this or, and was responsible for supporting the piece black balls. and the sparks which is on board and 40 the bees black goes white people. they don't one or 2. and then

another one and call this morning and they on the table or do they have a decision on what's happening in the near future or in the future or the apartments are also there. and this is, the other thing is not that executives and what was happening, the sep, will say, brother, the comfortable and yet the printer and the i'm the just the introduction into the social life and their situation. so they point the television or video. they wouldn't behind the call in the 20 to 20. yes, it was done by a what kind of a maybe, but the lender will say, okay, we have a mistake and we come back by the, the payment and the last agent and, well the is let me just get off the before. so the issue and the complaint i hear what you said, i hear what you're saying you, i hear what you're saying you've and you've made that point. but my question is, let me take this to alex now, why have the peace efforts failed so far?

it's not like nothing has been done. it's not like there has been no diplomacy. there has been the jetta talks mediated by saudi arabia and the united states. there's been a patient based initiative under egypt. leadership, there's been, i dad, the african regional block. there have been discussions in bahrain, so they've been multiple attempts to bring the 2 sides are assess and, and, and the army to the negotiating table. none of it has worked. why? so the only way to is works and these efforts eventually cancel each other. oh, it's being really a dismal failure. fall festival americans and united nations diplomacy. the americans gave the file to, to saudi arabia without the real plans of what to do. and very quickly, they got one agreement on a between the 2 sides on respecting civilians and providing to monetary and access which has been a deadlock to hasn't been observed. but then when it became clear that nothing was really happening in this process, in general, others began to pilot and it's been

a failure of effort come diplomacy. it's been a failure of or a diplomacy to i'm positive you along with, with many that the, the strings are really being pulled at in, in the middle east and the are well this, the road to peace and sit on, runs through re add an apple job in to some extent even develop eats as a, as well and indeed cairo. and i'm guessing those plans on board. and i'm guessing it should understanding all the very least minimizing the damage standing. but everyone has that, that favorite horse in the ranks. but as the radius is run late, the rind is a forwarding, an in, into this air and into his neglect. without any international leadership. the, the, the chaos that we are seeing is, is on folding. and it's getting more and more difficult with every posse month. so

i'm good, what's good? what's it going to take? you heard alex explain. you know, how deeply involved, many regional countries are in what's happening in sedan. the united arab emirates has been accused by a un investigation of supplying drones to the recess. iran is now reported to be supplying drones to the other side to the army, which also has egypt backing russia is now getting involved and possibly switching sides because the wagner group was initially reported to be helping the r assess, still are reportedly. but now the army is dealing with russian officials to maybe have an arms for port arms for port deal, right, where the russia would get a port on the red sea and an exchange the army would get russian weapons. so it's all complicated and i'm not expecting to yours to necessarily explain like follow every little tentacle of it. but the point is to say there are plenty of countries that have an interest in what's happening in sedan rent right now. and the question is, with all of that in mind, it does that how, how can

a solution be found be found if there are so many diverging interest? yeah, i agree with you on how that some of the pieces equals the. the folks have been a product, there's nothing wrong the floor and the lack of lot. and the sort of the structure of getting that by the way, the, the limit times i see for a demon. but there was never meeting blowing force man because he belong. now let's meet if you face to go ahead. zane said why? because in the morning does anyone fusion has always been so focused on the agreement? i think this is on in the point. i think we should just stop by initially the additional say the purgatory did, you know if they don't get in boxes and be very of a real text and i'll send you an item that is that we need to give it because you said it because he said that then that means that if you just separate it from any

other one, if you don't have a new one, is that we need, we need an invoice made, make any games. and one of the get to see kind of look what would that look like? that there are these mckinney names that's on place these to get this done by for ease of offices that so the uniforms expedited even better. and also that is uh doing for these drums out of the, um you said that last year actually the rates are going to be gone through uh, with the source. it is the additional so it's difficult to read, you know, sources. so what's needed right now, just the need a few homes that you in for the to get on the book. there is usually spot what the do you mind um uh the security guard to visualize the sure. how about how long does the server uh to be limited by just me getting seems to uh,

to be sure i seen saturday so that the, even the smoke side where you can see it seems more how big the visibility associated about being a loyal citizen of one of our vision, that is all of this new, the migration, uh, he's a c, i need a few years so that he's made it difficult to manage associated. but basically, because the before we go into that policy, choose united times batteries from dish and then what is it going to cost is that your company one get same results were committed crimes given to die. i look forward to is that if the police should know, it was ordered by the army needs reforms. i did want to size, it's a structure. i mean, the order was barely move slowly, you know, dropped, and all this it needs to be dismantled and it's empty. just a matter of there's the green way. does that mean that when we cut off, i was,

they didn't do that getting on to be there. so you know, the existence things are okay. all it is a big to the parts of the community bought the engine. oh wow, that's a good drunk florida be. so however they bought it gave you me a call to hold to go as, as a function of videos. you know, the twenty's had really well and then after that they see that there. oh, certainly to uh, that was probably just the meeting on a video of the gentleman. that's all the time we have for this discussion today. we want to thank you very much for the time you've given us today. i'm good for read of tired, dr. ally of the new good and alex develop. thank you very much. thank you too for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website,

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