the the. ringback the label gathering in jordan coles for a to be accelerated into gaza. it comes move in 8 months into as well. but how is promising more comfortable for them to say fine, i'm over regional countries on to help kind of city and this is inside story. the hello and welcome to the program. i'm nora kyle, as well as the war on goals that has killed tens of thousands of palestinians and created a humanitarian dissolves to a conference in jordan sore

a pushed by world powers to get more a to those in need. and a major relief, it will likely depend on a ceasefire and an end, as well as the blockade of the gaza strip. so could regional powers be doing more to help? and how serious all the latest proposals for a c spy will present these questions on hold to our panel in just a moment for us this report. i sent to them on a jordan and egypt organized the biggest gathering, yet angel coordinating humanitarian response to the war. on gaza, there was a consensus that 8 must flow, but the only way to end the crisis is a cease fire. expert who sees the audio must stop. it cite time for a suze, fired along with the unconditional release of hostages. please raise the hand. i us, these fire proposal recently got the backend of the un security council. a mosque once amendment that says it's engaging positively with the plan or israel hasn't

publicly accepted the proposal, but it's us l, i say it is on board indians. when i met prime minister netanyahu yesterday in his real, he reaffirmed his support and his commitment to bringing this proposal across the finish line. as negotiations drag on the people of gaza are suffering more than 37000 have been killed. and there's time and in many areas, israel is blocking 8 supplies and is widely accused of using starvation as a weapon of war. exempt is what you see that it is necessary for is realty in the state of siege, and stop using the weapon of starvation to punish the people of the gaza strip. and to remove all obstacles to the immediate sustainable and adequate access to humanitarian and relief. a to the cause, a stripped from all crossings fiction. the conference reflect abroad agreement in the international community. the gaza needs aid and the sizing needs to stop the making that happen. we require cooperation from all sides. vince and monahan,

how does era for inside story? the well, that's bringing all guess now and, and daryl bella and central gauze are have shown on us spokesman for the instructional committee of the red cross and red crescent in amman. jordan to honey must offer senior protest on a list of the in special crisis group and ramallah in the occupied westbank with stuff about gucci, 60 general of the palestine national initiative. will welcome to all of you at the honey everyone in jordan agreed that more aid must get into gaza. but the question is, how does that happen a lot. that's right. have the confidence that was uh, the emphasis on the need some more a given the dice monetary situation. now we had kept a lot talk about how jordan would commit to more a dresser and drops the need for some kind of non core door to guarantee the entry

of most efficient a. which is what we have not the be seen going into gaza. but again, you know, this is really out to arab states, egypt enjoy to have that option, a very delicate piano game in terms of the logistics in terms of the, the, the actual operational elements to make one of that possible. and you know, that that was really substantially discussed. um, what was my wife, the fact that the pages that jordan is making are you just sticking cost is here. you know, really, ultimately have destruction from them all, you know, pressing issue of the fact that you do actually need non ford was you have sufficient on cradles, but it was really no emphasis on, on how to actually get back guarantee from as well. there was no emphasis on the fact that israel has not been a good faith partner in trying to ensure that sufficient amounts of 8 to in a 9 to was there any mention of the fact the egypt actually allow israel to dictate its policy on this cause of border donnie, plenty of points to pick up on the in this discussion 1st was want to get the view

on the ground from the goals and strip patients. to what extent can this conference improve the humanitarian situation as it stands that right now to thank you for having me. yesterday the president of the ice cream is very honestly outage delivered to main us in the summit in the did see the 1st one was called for an immediate implementation. faithful implementation of both the stairs and the letters of the geneva conventions. and that party to the conflict documented to facilitate the invitation of the agreement that would eventually lead to 1st ensure the protection of civilians. secondly, to ensure that although the pride of their liberties can be treated humanely and eventually the the full release of the hostages. the 2nd man ask was that a political agreement that should come into effect um must ensure that a function of even a tell you in system would be put in place. considering the fluctuation of the

human italian paid the tremendous challenges that are based thinking by turning workers in gaza to get that there was, if they needed assistance in together and deliver it to the thousands of people who are desperate for it. and also to ensure that protection for the human italian workers working across the gaza strip. i thought it was right. interesting history . i'm just to jump in that because we have the i see all see president saying that the status quo. oh, cannot hold. and it seems that people outside of the country quite happy to let things go on as they all. but it's worth remembering, isn't it the, this is a situation that is not sustainable. absolutely. state is broken. i even say because it's very much dangerous. people have been suffering from this fighting since since last thursday. october 7th, 2023 for 8 months. now. thousands of people have been killed. vast majority of the gases trip is now broke. the revel including infrastructure homes, essential buildings, hospitals, and they come out to rebuild their lives as the used to do after each runs conflict

with violence in the last 15 years. this one is completely unprecedented. and we fear that the dangers tolerance with the violations that we witnessed could actually shape the future of uh, the next course or worker of what they think it's worth. so it's very much important to achieve a breakthrough, the national committee, prescott spans ready to facilitate any agreement that would be realized once it's announced. and we start and ready to continue providing our human attendant assistance. okay, i'm just off of the gate, so yeah, me, me any real obstacle to aid apart from egypt controlling it side the roof of crossing is to honey said there any other old school, israel's blockade of garza? but what do you make of the fact that as well, wasn't even not this conference or well, of course the, the main problem is, is or not anybody else. and the main problem is that is there is continuing to just

sort of been more the sort of this, this type of genocide against the hosting and people. and the 1st things that are nice to see is that there is no substitute to land passages. all these talks about data drops and this the product set the many so many question marks about will not solve the problem. the only way to get it together is to lift the seas and allowed all the land messages from jordan. i'm from egypt to, to, to, to work. and the one from egypt will not be able to work as long as the is there any autumn use will keep buying the buses and book you buy in the middle crossing. but more important, in addition to that, even if online passages and working this was not the problem, the problem will not stop getting deteriorated unless there is

a complete until the ceasefire. list is there as stops this to be more. we are talking to the fact that there are $47000.00 palestinians cuz if you include the $10000.00 on the boat and with no less than $16000.00 tons of and probably and more than 24000 people in good, many of whom would not be treated because there are no medical center left since is, are destroyed, most of them. but then i get you pulled up. even the passages will not solve the fact that there is no type of supplies, no clean water. one of the problems we have our medical teams that medical leave has to deal with is that we have a huge number of people now with infection super tight. and then if it to me that's brand because of lack of the motor. we have to deal with 1200000 people who a sick now we've got to incite this with other problems. and was many people who

are suffering from starvation that i need to talk to, but it was just about to die because of starvation. and because of lack of baby mean because of lack of support to that families. so i don't think destination will happen unless both communities accept the sizes in the depths factions on israel, okay, so forth. but before we do that myself, before we go to that, let's look at the seas for our prospect. because as we just before, we were going to record this program we did here from the us actually ends the bleeding can, is actually, is a state of is of. so us actually is as the banking in castle, alongside the target prime minister. they were speaking because they are looking to bring both sides back to the table talking about by themselves 5 proposal. victoria problem is to set that he said this is a shift in the conflicts to honey. do you agree that there is a shift right now in the conflict and that's a ceasefire?

could happen relatively soon. i unfortunately, i don't shut out this. um, i think at the moment we are still facing uh, 2 sides to have a 2 mutually exclusive demands here. hold on, just wanted to see the withdrawal of israel from garza. they want to see a total association of hostilities components each file before or other conditions can then be worked out. on the other side, you've got israel, that is still going full maximum list in terms of its objectives of destroying house and not just knew the attorney, but as an administrative body political social entity, which, you know, as so far we know it has not been able to qualify, where is where i'll have time to destroy, how much is managed to re establish results as both the military and t and as an administrator party. so unfortunately, i think it's very unlikely that we're going to see if he's, by any time soon, it's just, it's completely unrealistic. and we,

we've even seen that in terms of as well, not even being able to actually, we've seen how much come out and say that it's willing to accept that proposal on the condition that it gets serious guarantees from either israel or it's sorry us mediate. but we haven't seen anything similar from these really slides. if anything, we've seen statements that have continued undermines. this is all, it's a honey, let me put it to you. then if you don't see a ceasefire on the horizon any time soon and is what is known at the table when talking about an an urgent need to an increase of humanitarian aid. what is the point of having a confidence like we had in jordan? i mean, this is to, to our bridges that are dealing with playing a very delicate piano game here at home. jordan is in the emerging itself is an adverse, curious situation. on the one hand, it has tried to balance its rhetoric with regards to this war. if you imagine terms of providing things like at drops in age and medical convoys. but at the same time, the fact that joslyn has been able to provide, in some ways,

some diplomatic cover for isabel, has dining cause or the property is still in many ways engaging and economic and security ties with, with israel, has not been lost on this population awful, and this is also company against the backdrop of a time where detroit, any regime, even prior to the, some of the trouble was in real british just precarious relationship with many jordan's. and so this is, this really is just that, i'm not sure probably it clustering on the same thing with, with egypt, each trip to the guest in a very, very delicate situation. here we have public science men at home is just something, not jiving with egypt, farm policy. i just want to pick up on what does that see happening inside gall decrease of the rough across the enclosing about a month ago, and that floats off on a numerous amount of 8 and really made delivery of 8 across the causal strep. incredibly difficult. how now does it gets in and how is it distributed throughout garza? i thank you for this important question. so to start to bring is randy military

operation and rock in the, on the 6th of, of may. and we have witnessed a significant decline in the amount of humanitarian they enter and gaza and eventually reaching good people the need, especially after closing that off crossing which was the main gateway for not only for the human italian aid. that's true and goes off by a trucks. but also with the human italian workers, including surgeons, doctors, nurses, and specialist, and the infrastructure. it also prevented many casualties and, and, and patients were entitled to receive medical treatment abroad because unavailable can gather and they are now in a much bound. they're both situations. so they are actually in and facing a, the imminent risk of losing their lives because they are not receiving that treatments. and also we are receiving reports coming from nursing, gathers trip that people are still struggling with finding sufficient amount

includes and they are sleeping on into stomach and this has tremendous uh, impacts on their uh, on their health care and their under wellbeing as well. there are many casualties and nothing got this check and so like barely meant functioning hospitals who are scheduled for surgeries that are not performed because there is no capability of doing that and they need to be transferred to stop and gas is chip. so there is no efficient how many atanya and system at the moment that would allow urgency if we didn't response and shooting health care and to the teen will try and puting up meals to be a to reach the people in need. and this has to change immediately, not just in the framework of the political agreement, but this is more of a legal obligation and part of the conflict. and as far as occupying power must ensure that civilians reach uh old necessities that are needed for their own survival, including food, including what to enter the health care and on top of policies that security,

in addition to that, a given attending workers has been living as basically what the majority of the people are facing and gather more i c r c staff members are living literally in fence and they are challenged with the daily challenges that are faced by they seem to help the nation. yes, they start to being, they show up every day to work there. it's as, as the are certainly president mentioned yesterday the, the entire human italian system is being pushed to a point of glass. if there is no breakthrough, proceed in the very, very near future will suffer when you look at what time to be done. we know that as well has taken control of the palestinian side of roughly it's also taking control of the philadelphia car to list buffers. died between egypt and galls amount. that was a red line for egypt. so why haven't we seen egypt acts on it? put more leverage on israel as well. i don't know what the options to do, but it's not just egypt. i think it's the only one that is not doing what it should

do. and let's remember that the i c j 9 permission of course of justice decide that i made, that is addition on, on the 2nd to is that i have to stop the military operation. and this was about, functioned as the continues that, that and to continue with that tax and the continued on tax and descent. there is no safe place and all those guys. and the, as i said, as long as this, look on this with this, this, this humanitarian situation will continue to the category. and uh, that's why i think now we have to look at the picture. i think how much, how does that sound to you? and zip security comes up as it is, and they even accepted practically by this proposal, which he claimed was on the proposal. it does the accept them yet. and the pen again myself are because if we look we zoom in a little bit on the region. yes. the world has failed to take as well to task,

but one would expect more of the arab nations in particular because they stand on the side of the palestinians. but what exactly have they done to help them in my opinion and pulling out of the countries and all is let me country is should start by imposing immediate sanctions in this. uh and uh, this going from sanctions to good should go sold, right. but yes, if there's another possibility, don't the other countries and the countries in particular who out of the city and people and who saying that they are supporting the policy now goes to stop by themselves. in my opinion, nathaniel will not stop without sections. he will not stop because he's gone and his image to extend this little to those maybe the end of day, you're hoping that probably be elected and that they wouldn't get much more support to them, their nights and states of america. and he has to be stopped and he can be stopped

on the by imposing sanctions on him or getting him with sanctions. okay, this hong human hysteria, federal crisis will not stop unless the ceasefire is that, but let me just one last point. it as much as it is very important to clarify the insight acceptance. they want us to go to the concept of the museum and engage in negotiating about it isn't that isn't the science that stem digits up. certainly what we'll have to waste in the coming days to hear more on the as really response to that says 5 to one is gonna pick up on the sanctions issue. so far we've only rarely seen tacky, taking action against israel, costing some of its trade on most of its trades with israel. why are we not seeing jordan doing that? why we're not seeing egypt doing that, told the gulf nations why surgical action. i mean, these countries are very dependent. if you talk about jordan and egypt, these are countries that are entirely dependent on,

on an early west and aid. they simply don't have the capacity to take his thoughts even if they could. jordan has really good thoughts about which one doesn't even have entice over 20 over. it's not in the space, the fact that it has signed numerous memorandum deals with the u. s. for instance, has given the us practically free range to use ordered as a, as a military base to however, it sees fit, which is what we have actually seen in the last few months when we have the wrong as well. um scuffle where effectively it was largely, uh us and, and, and these ratings, but we, using that address of systems to, to shoot down and solve and drones. what was, what was that they were doing now? let's look united areas, you know, places like that the, the administrative capital. yeah. you know, that has not, again, that has not been lost and their populations, the fact that these countries have absolutely no capacity to take a serious nonce. if anything, in some cases, countries like to do, i didn't even egypt. i provided the dip, trying to come a very early on when i had the really trying to take the resolution of cutting. oh,

economic, diplomatic security ties of israel. it was these countries that had been live ation deals and will also be dependent on western aid that not, not resolution at the start this on sort of since then they have not tried to leverage anything. organization deals to, to try and push for anything positive. also, the palestinian isn't all statements here. so when you talk to people that to what extent is there a sense of abandonment by noting the region, but the world at large you can hear that then every uh, every moment you interact with anyone in gaza, spite their age, their assess their backgrounds. so everyone in good doesn't want to stop this for everyone wants to go back to their homes, even if they have no home left, even if their entire neighborhood is destroyed, they just want but would have to go back and maybe even an attempt. but they just, i want this to come to an end, and there is a general sense of a balance in

a bedroom. uh indeed uh, and this has created even extra pressure on the human italian workers, the who have been shouldering the responsibility of making sure that people perceive the 8 that, that they are need for. and they aren't types of to see um from our experience. we have been in history on the occupied richards since 1967, and we have been part of this community for decades. uh, what we have witnessed as the last, the since there's lots of silver is competing unprecedented from the ice here. see experienced an army conflicts? we absolutely, absolutely, sure that's given to tanya solution cannot be the solution for ending the inventory and suffering. military actions cannot achieve death, as well as the political agreements could eventually enter this election. so we're not involved into political discussions. organizations as the human side of the media you, however, we remain sleep waiting to start implementing any or even once it's realize between the, you know, the deluxe the companies. and this is part of the effort that the accuracy is

actually for suing, including its president. with, you know, we have spoken directly to both how much that israel we have spoken to 3rd party countries and policies for have influenced both. um, but i can assure you that people cannot continue to survive. they cannot live on the survival mode for, for any longer. they have invested everything in their capacity. and just as a reminder, you as a, has faced the brands of 16 years of restrictions on the movement of people for 16 years. the amount of the level of um, um, um, so it is security for example, that population levels had succeeded 80 percent that october 7th happened. so people could not even afford to rent a transfer transportation or a bus or a car or even a drug, you know, guard by donkeys to move their belongings because the have to go to a safer place. after receiving back to mission orders. they have been living like

that for, for 8 months now, and there is no way and a human being can continue living like that. so we cannot actually keep, you know, bidding on how people can cope and mitigate any longer. because of the positive in presence of boss, but in ramallah, he was not the jordanian conference, but otherwise he's been lost. the side line throughout this conflict. how dangerous is that full palestinians at large? i'm talking about those goals, but also in the occupied westbank slow westbank itself is subject to now to tell you, but the rest of it is by isn't it? i mean, not. yeah. the last 48 hours. is there any on me till the 14th? i just didn't use a different spot to boost back and the content of the tax and the life of the city and is worth nothing for the sum of the ink that is on an ice pack . but the thing and the vision is also the facing category of the challenge because

the is the united states of america to some extent on some other countries out of the i trying to take, oh, it's not about us to use them. right. well sensitive isn't patient and the ability to ship the kind on the same situation by accepting our demand or creating di would be 5 pallets to be empty to ship within that. as soon as the po, including everybody, what the world must see and should see is if i was to be installed to unify us to get into the ship and the annual income government. wps would be the concerns of motion of consensus, government that should be entered your mind that's from the promise of the people to organize connections once. once this was over, then one of the most and most important issues here is that you have the right to choose the really category. and it does not, is there you go to united states or any other company that have the right to impose on us, which leads us about i'm talking about the,

i'm just going to bring the conversation just back to the presidency problems. apologies for interrupting result. time for one more question, i just want to put it at the honey in the absence of a ceasefire. pretty pessimistic about guessing one a little earlier. how does this gently needed a get into goals because something's going to get in as well. the 8 organizations themselves, instead of king of the himself, said i, there is no substitute to non cord or you have them, they all there. the program this is wrote is different. one dictating what goes in what goes out. so unless there is actually a serious, substantial pressure for israel rather than these kind of destructive sticking cost and mechanisms of adults. and i'm trying to deliver a through to see where already we've seen that it is in a complete and efficient and how cost lives palestinian lives has no deliberate anywhere near the the required amounts of 80 and has actually been phone closely.

and there really is no substitute to that, that really needs to be pressure on israel. yeah, that needs to be some sort of can such an international effort to get as well to allow good sufficient amounts of good to go in through existing non postings. okay . that we have to leave on discussion today. many thanks to well, i guess with joining us has, has, i'm not a honeymoon stuff on the stuff up bogu team and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. that's out to 0 dot com for further discussion ticket as well. facebook page that's facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story is also doing the conversation on x on homeless as a inside story from me, nor kyle. i'm the whole same here. bye for now. the

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