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hello and welcome to the program. i'm nora kyle, as well as the war and gone, so it has killed tens of thousands of palestinians and created a humanitarian dissolves to a conference in jordan sore a pushed by world powers to get more a to those in need. and a major relief effort will likely depend on a sci fi and an end, as well as the blockade of the goal is a strip. so could regional powers be doing more to help? and how serious all the latest proposals for a sci fi, we present these questions on hold to our panel in just a moment for us this report. i sent them on a jordan and egypt organized the biggest gathering, yet angel, coordinating humanitarian response to the war on gaza. there was a consensus that 8 must flow, but the only way to end the crisis is a cease fire expert who sees the audio must stop as it sites time for a suze, fired along with the unconditional release of hostages. please raise the hand. i us,
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these fire proposal recently got the backend of the un security council. a mosque once amendment that says it's engaging positively with the plan. israel hasn't publicly accepted the proposal, but it's us l, i say it is on board. when i met prime minister netanyahu yesterday in his real, he reaffirmed his support and his commitment to bringing this proposal across the finish line. as negotiations drag on the people of gaza are suffering more than 37000 have been killed. and there's time and in many areas, israel is blocking 8 supplies and is widely accused of using starvation as a weapon of war. exempt is what you see that it is necessary for is realty in the state of siege, and stop using the weapon of starvation to punish the people of the gaza strip. and to remove all obstacles to the immediate sustainable and adequate access to humanitarian and relief. a to the cause of strep from all crossings. fiction. the
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conference reflect abroad agreement in the international community, the gods, and needs a and the sizing needs to stop the making that happen, require cooperation from all sides. vinson monahan, how does the euro for inside story? the well that's bringing all guess now and, and daryl bella and central gauze are here. so i'm not a spokesman for the instructional committee of the red cross and red crescent in amman. jordan to honey must offer senior protest on a list of the in special crisis group and ramallah in the occupied westbank with stuff about gucci, 60 general of the palestine national initiative. will welcome to all of you at the honey everyone in jordan agreed that more aid must get into gaza. but the question is, how does that happen a lot. that's right at the conference that was uh, the emphasis on the need some more
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a given the dice monetary situation now we had capital, i've talked about how it jordan would commit to more a drawers, right, and drops the needs. there's some kind of non core door to guarantee the entry at most efficient a, which is what we have not the be seen going into gaza. but again, you know, this is really out to arab states. egypt enjoy to have that option, a very delicate piano game in terms of the logistics in terms of the, the, the actual operational elements to make one of that possible. and you know, that was really substantially discussed. um, what was my wife, the fact that the pleasures that jordan is making are you just sticking cost is here. you know, really ultimately have destruction from the more, you know, pressing issue of the fact that you do actually need not coord was you have sufficient on cradles. but there was really no emphasis on how to actually get that guarantee from as well. there was no emphasis and the fact that israel has not been a good faith partner in trying to ensure that sufficient amounts of 8 to him. and
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neither was there any mention of the fact the egypt actually allowed israel to dictate its policy. and it's possible to donnie, plenty of points to pick up on the end of this discussion 1st. so i just want to get the view on the ground from the goals and strip patients. to what extent can this conference improve the humanitarian situation as it stands? that right now to thank you for having me yesterday, the president of the ice cream is very honestly outage delivered to main us in the summit in the let's see. the 1st one was called for an immediate implementation faithful implementation of both the stairs and the letters of the geneva conventions. and that party to the conflict documented to facilitate the invitation of the agreement that would eventually lead to 1st ensure the protection of civilians. secondly, and ensure that although the pride of their liberties can be treated humanely and eventually the the full release of the hostages. the 2nd man ask was that
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a political agreement that would, should come into effect of must ensure that a function of even a tell you in system would be put in place. considering the fluctuation of the human italian paid the tremendous challenges that are based thinking by turning workers in gaza to get that there was, if they needed assistance in together and deliver it to the thousands of people who are desperate for it. and also to ensure that protection for the humanitarian workers working across the gaza strip. i thought it was right. interesting history . i'm just to jump in that because we have the i see all see president saying that the status quo. oh, cannot hold. and it seems that people outside of the country quite happy to let things go on as they all. but it's worth remembering, isn't it the, this is a situation that is not sustainable. absolutely. state is broken. i even say because it's very much dangerous. people have been suffering from despite the sense um, since last thursday, october 7, 2020 street for 8 months now thousands of people have been killed. vast majority of
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the gases trip is now broke the rubble, including infrastructure, homes, essential buildings, hospitals, and they come out to rebuild their lives as the used to do after each run conflict with violence and the last 15 years. this one is completely unprecedented. and we fear that the dangerous tolerance with the violations that we witnessed could actually shape the future of uh, the next course of work or uh, what this thing happens for it. so it's, it's very much important to achieve a breakthrough. you can actually committee threats, cross spans, ready to facilitate any agreement that would be realized once it's announced. and we started really to continue providing our human attendant assistance. okay. i'm just off of the gate. so yeah, me, me any real obstacle to aid apart from egypt? controlling it side, the roof of crossing is to honey said, there any other old school is israel's blockade of garza. but what are you making
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the fact that israel wasn't even out in this conference a little of course the, the main problem is, is there not anybody else? and the main problem is that to is there is continuing to disturb and more these sort of this, this type of genocide against the posting and people. and the 1st thing that one has to see is that there is no substitute to none of the passages. all these talks about the blogs and this part of that, the many so many question marks about will not solve the problem. the only way to get it together is to lift the seas on that load all the land messages from jordan. i'm from egypt to, to, to do work. and the one from egypt would not be able to work as long as the is there any autumn use will keep buying the passes and books you buy in the middle 5 crossing. but more important, in addition to that,
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even if online messages are working, this was not the problem. the problem will not stop getting deteriorated unless there is a complete until tennessee's fire list is there as folks this that would be more we are talking about the fact that there are $47000.00 palestinians cuz if you include the $10000.00 on the boat and the $16000.00 tons of and probably more than $84000.00 people injured, many of whom would not be treated because there are no medical facilities left since is, are destroyed, most of them. but in addition to that, even the messages will not solve the fact that there is no type of supplies, no clean water. one of the problems we have our medical, the teams i've made to cut the leaves has to deal with is that we have a huge number of people now with infections super tight. and then if it to me that's brand because of lack of the motor. we have to deal with 1200000 people who
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a sick to now we've got to incite this with other problems. and was many people who are suffering from starvation. that out after the $55.00 children who are just about to die because of starvation. and because of lack of baby mean because of lack of support to their families. so i don't think destination will happen unless both communities exercises, gimme depths factions on as well. okay, before, but before we get to them or something before we go to that, let's look at the seas for our prospects. because as we just before, we were going to record this program we did here from the us actually ends. the blinking is actually, is a state of is of so us actually is as the banking in castle, alongside the target prime minister. they were speaking because they are looking to bring both sides back to the table talking about by themselves 5 proposal. victoria prime is to set that, he said this is
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a shift in the conflicts to honey. do you agree that there is a shift right now in the conflict and that's a ceasefire. could happen relatively soon. i unfortunately, i don't shut out this. um, i think at the moment we are still facing uh, 2 sides to have uh, 2 mutually exclusive demands. yeah, hold on, just wanted to see the withdrawal of israel from garza. they want to see a total association of hostilities components each file before or other conditions can then be worked out. on the other side, you've got israel, that is still going full maximum list in terms of its objectives of destroying her mouse and not just military, but as an administrative body political social entity, which, you know, as so far we know it has not been able to qualify, where is we all have time to destroy, how much is managed to re establish results as both the military and t and as an
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administrator party. so unfortunately, i think it's very unlikely that we're going to see if he's, by any time soon, it's just, it's completely unrealistic. and we, we've even seen that in terms of as well, not even being able to actually, we've seen how much come out and say that it's willing to accept that proposal on the condition that it gets serious guarantees from either israel or it's sorry us mediate. but we haven't seen anything similar from these really slides. if anything, we've seen statements that have completely undermined this is all, it's a honey, let me put it to you. then if you don't see a ceasefire on the horizon any time soon and as well as notes at the table when talking about an an urgent need to an increase of humanitarian aid. what is the point of having a confidence like we had in jordan? i mean, again, this is to to uh, our bridges that are dealing with playing a very delicate piano game here at home. jordan is in the drawing. redeem itself isn't a verb curious situation. on the one hand, it has tried to balance its rhetoric with regards to this war. if you imagine terms
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of providing things like at drops in age and medical convoys. but at the same time, the fact that joslyn has been able to provide, in some ways, some diplomatic cover for isabel has done in cause of the fact that it is still in many ways engaging and economic and security ties with, with israel, has not been lost on his population awful. and this is also coming against the backdrop of a time where detroit, any regime, even prior to the simple trouble, was in a real spirit to shift precarious a relationship with many georgia unions. and so this, this really is just, i'm not sure public clustering and the same thing with, with egypt, each trip to the guest in a very, very delicate situation. here we have public science. men at home is just something, not jiving with egypt, farm policy. i just want to pick up on what does that see happening inside got the crystal, the rough across the enclosing about a month ago, and that floats off in a numerous amount of 8 and rarely made the delivery of 8 across the gauze has strep
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incredibly difficult how now does it gets in and how is it distributed throughout garza? thank you for this important question. so to start the billions randy military operation and rough in the, on the 6th of, of may. so we have witnessed a significant decline in the amount of humanitarian aid intern garza and eventually reaching good people the need, especially after closing that off crossing which was the main gateway for not only for the humanitarian aid that's doing guys all by a trucks. uh, but also with the human italian workers, including surgeons, doctors, nurses, and specialist, and the infrastructure and also prevent the many casualties and, and, and, and, and patients who are entitled to receive medical treatment abroad because unavailable can gather and they are now in a much belt and are both situations, so they are actually in and facing a,
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the imminent risk of losing their lives because they're not receiving that treatments. and also receiving reports coming from nursing gathers trip that people are still struggling with finding sufficient amount includes. and they are sleeping on into stomach and this has tremendous uh impacts on their uh, on their health care and their under wellbeing as well. there are many casualties and nothing got this trip and so like barely ment functioning hospitals who are scheduled for surgeries that are not performed because there is no capability of doing that and they need to be transferred to south and gases trip. so there is no efficient how many times in the system at the moment that would allow urgency if he didn't response and shooting health care and to the teen walter, including up kneels to be a to reach the people in need. and this has to change immediately, not just in the framework of the political agreement, but this is more of a legal obligation and part of the conflict. and as far as occupying power must ensure that civilians reach old necessities that are needed for their own survival
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. including food, including what to enter the health care and on top of all safety security. in addition to that, a given attending workers has been living and facing what the majority of the people are facing and gather more. i see our staff members are living literally in fence and they are challenged with a daily challenges that are faced by they think the whole population. yes, they start to be, they show up every day to work there. it's as, as the are certainly president mentioned yesterday the, the entire human italian system is being pushed to a point of glass. if there is no breakthrough, proceed in the very, very near future with. so when you look at what can be done, we know that as well as taking control of the policy and inside of roughly it's also taking control of the philadelphia car to list buffers. died between egypt and gaza. amount that was a red line for egypt. so why haven't we seen egypt acts on it,
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put more leverage on as well as well. i don't know what the options to do, but it's not just egypt. i think it's the only one that is not doing what it should do. and let's remember that the i c j 9 permission of course of justice decide that i made that is abuse in order to is that i have to stop the military operation. and this was about, functioned as the continues that, that and then continue with that tax and the continued on tax and defense of judges, most ass place and all those guys. and the, as i said, as long as this, look on this with this, this, this humanitarian situation will continue to do category. and that's why i think now we have to look at the picture. i think her mass has accepted the and zip security comes up as it is. and there's even acceptance practically by this proposal, which he claimed blog then is the proposal. it doesn't the accept them yet. and
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the pin again with software because if we look, we zoom in a little bit on the region. yes. the world has failed to take as well to task, but one would expect more of the arab nations in particular because they stand on the side of the palestinians. but what exactly have they done to help them in my opinion and pull it out of the countries and all the countries should start by imposing immediate sanctions in this and uh this going from sanctions to good should go sold like, but yet it says the responsibility on data centers and limit countries in particular who out of the city and people and who saying that data supporting companies now goes to stop by themselves. in my opinion, nathaniel will not stop without sanctions. he will not stop because is going on this image to extend this low to those maybe the end of day,
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you're hoping that the time would be elected and that they wouldn't get much more support to them, their nights and states of america. and he has to be stopped and he can be on the by imposing sanctions on him or getting him with sanctions. okay. this hong human. the city of the crisis will not stop unless the seas 5 is that. but let me just one last point. it is much, it is very important to clarify the insight acceptance. they want us to go to the concept is amazing and engage and you've got to think about it. it does that in the science, that's double digit up certainly what we'll have to wait. so in the coming days to hear more on the as really response to that says 5 to one is want to pick up on the sanctions issue. so far, we've only really seen taki taking action against israel, costing some of its trade on most of its trades with israel. why are we not seeing jordan doing that? why we're not seeing egypt doing that, told of gulf nations why so little action?
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i mean, these countries are very dependent. if you talk about jordan and egypt, these are countries that are entirely dependent on, on an early west and aid. they simply don't have the capacity to take a stock even if they could. jordan has rid of it. it sounds about which one doesn't even have entice over 20, over. it's not in the space. the fact that it has signed numerous memorandum deals with the u. s. for instance, has given the us practically free rain teacher to use the word as a, as a military base to however, it sees fit, which is what we have actually seen in the last few months when we have the wrong as well a scuffle with effectively it was largely us and, and, and these ratings, but we using that address of systems to, to shoot down and solve and drones. what was left was that they were doing how it looks like united areas, you know, places like that the, the administrative capital. yeah. you know, that has not, again, that has not been lost and their populations, the fact that these countries have absolutely no capacity to take the serious
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thoughts. if anything, in some cases, countries like drop down and even egypt had provided a different and a couple of very early on when i have the are really trying to take the resolution of cutting. oh, economic, diplomatic security ties of israel. it was these countries that had been why they shouldn't deals and will also be dependent on western aid that not, not resolution of the smart designs for assistance. they have not tried to leverage anything. organization deals to, to try and push for anything positive positive. how this thing isn't all statements, because when you talk to people that to what extent is there a sense of abandonment by noting the region but the world at large you can hear that then every uh, every moment you interact with anyone in gaza, spite the age there assessed their backgrounds. everyone in that doesn't want to stop this war. everyone wants to go back to their homes, even if they have no home left,
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even if their entire neighborhood is destroyed. the just one moment would have to go back, maybe even an attempt. but they just, i want this to come to an end, and there is a general sense of a balance in a bedroom. uh indeed uh, and this has created even extra pressure on the human italian workers, the who have been shouldering the responsibility of making sure that people perceive the 8 that, that they are need for. and they are entitled to see um, from our experience, we have been in history on the occupied richards since 1967. and we have been part of this community for decades. what do you have witnessed as the last the since there's lots of silver is completed and presidents it from the i c or c experienced an armed conflicts? we asked to be absolutely sure that's given to tanya solution cannot be the solution for ending the inventory and suffering. military actions cannot achieve death as well. let's go. agreements could eventually put into the election. so we're not involved in the political discussions, organizations as a human setting,
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intermediary, however we remain sleep waiting to start implementing any or even once it's realize between the, you know, the, the parts of the company. and this is part of the effort that the are here see, is actually for suing, including its president with what was you know, we have spoken directly to both how much and israel we have spoken to 3rd party countries and to put a peaceful have influence both um, but i can assure you that people cannot continue to survive. they cannot live on the survival mode for, for any longer. they have invested everything in their capacity. and just as a reminder, yeah, that has faced the bronze of 16 years of restrictions on the movement. good of people for 16 years. the amount of the level of um, um, um, so it is security for example, as population level has exceeded 80 percent. that october 7th happens. so people could not even afford to rent a transfer transportation or a bus or a car or even
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a drug, you know, guard by donkeys to move their belongings because the have to go to a safer place. after receiving evacuation orders, they have been living like that for, for 8 months now. and there is no way and a human being can continue living like that. so we cannot actually keep, you know, bidding on how people can cope and mitigate any longer with stuff a positive in presence boss. but in ramallah, he was not the joe damian conference, but otherwise he's been launch the sidelines throughout this conflict. how dangerous is that full palestinians at large? i'm talking about those goals, but also in the occupied westbank as westbank good sense is subject to not to tell you, but i trust it is by isn't it? i mean, not. yeah, the last 48 hours is there any on me till the 14th? i just didn't use a different box to boost back and the content of the tax and the
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life of publicity and is worth nothing closer to some other end does on an ice pack . but the processing and the direction is also the facing. i gave the challenge because the is the united states of america to some extent on some other countries out by uh, trying to take, oh, it's not about us to use them. right. well, sensor presentation and the ability to ship the kind on the same situation by accepting the demand or creating guy will be 5 pallets to be empty to ship within that as of the po, including everybody. what the must see on should see is, i mean if i was to be installed the unified price to get into the ship and the annual income government wps would be the concerns of motion or consensus. government that should be entered in mind that permits the people to organize connections once once this was over, one of the most and most important issues here is that you have the right to choose
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the really i'm different category and it does not, is, there you go to united states or any other company that has the right to impose on us, which leads us about i'm talking about because somebody is going to, i'm just going to bring the conversation just back to the presidency problems. apologies for interrupting result. time for one more question, i just want to put it at the honey in the absence of a ceasefire. pretty pessimistic about guessing one a little earlier. how does this gently needed a get into goals because something's going to get him as well. the 8 organizations themselves as that it can't build a himself better. i, there is no substitute for an encore it or you have them. they all the, the program, this is road is just the one dictating what goes in what goes out. so unless there is actually a serious, substantial pressure for israel rather than these kind of destructive sticking cost and mechanisms of ad drops. and i'm trying to deliver 8 through to see where
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already we've seen that it is interesting to answer should not have cost lives. palestinian lives has no deliberate anywhere near the required amounts of 80 and has actually been found closely. um, there really is no substitute to that. there really needs to be pressure on israel . yeah. that needs to be some sort of can such an international effort to get as well to allow good sufficient amounts of good to go in through existing postings. okay. that we have to leave on the discussion today. many thanks to well, i guess with joining us has, has, i'm not a honeymoon stuff on the midst of a bulky team and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website that's al jazeera dot com for further discussion digger as well. facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash a inside story is also doing the conversation on x, on homeless at a inside story from me, nor kyle, and the whole same here. bye for now the,
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