the the . ringback the the back of the alpha. so this fist fight thing for the capital of saddam's. no style for states. human rights violations being reported just how important is this region and the year long, complex and what role are outside of playing. this is inside story, the hello there and welcome to the program. i'm nor a kyle fighting is intensifying into john's west and the full region upon military rapids support forces are advancing on the city of all fashion certainly is on his

last stronghold in the area. the long conflict across the country has to space millions of people and left many more on the brink of starvation, doing storage counseling, sticking to address the crisis at the request of the u. k. but so full actions by the instructional community have proved in effective. so is the conflict into john reaching a critical point. i can anything be done to protect civilians course in the crossfire . we'll get to a guest in just a moment. first, this report from sentiment of how the student needs army and power military rapid support forces have been fighting for more than a year. but now the conflict may be approaching a pivotal moment as far as the fighters closing on the city of l faster. the north western region is the last stronghold of the sudanese army and are for as the fighting intensifies, the civilian population is quoted in the middle. more than 10000000 people with a force from their homes across on, under living in desperate conditions. like,

how does it, has it the high up most of our lives have become difficult. now, as you can see, we don't have anything, not even dinner for our kids. and we believe we flutter from till we left. we had to leave at night. we couldn't leave during the day because we were scared of strikes and heavy weapons. food is also running out. more than 18000000 student needs are going hungry, and aid isn't getting through to those in need. unitarian workers' war and the conditions will get even worse unless something changes. soon. we need an end to the conflict. at a minimum, we need a ceasefire. we need to be able to scale operations, and for that we need the humanitarian access. we need long term political intervention that will allow the peace to hold. prosecutors in each national criminal court are investigating possible crimes and dar for they believe widespread atrocities are taking place. the evidence my office has collected to date seems to show credible, repeated,

expanding. continuous allegations of attacks against the civilian population in particular, attacks direct to the gains comes for internally displaced persons as the cost that goes on more civilians are being put at risk. but so far, the international community has a little success in securing humanitarian access. we'll bring the pricing to an end . vince amount of him out to 0 for inside story. the. let's bring in all guess now and inquire dalia mohammed. i don't, my name said sidney is political commentator and on the list and the b. matilda who advocate advocacy, advisor for the weekend refugee council. and then come paula, hello. i'll carry a student who's pro democracy and african feminist activist. i'm the regional director of the c huh network. if i will welcome to all of you. hello. let's start

with you because finished and they gave us a pretty good idea of the terrible situation that the people of to dawn of facing especially at the moment in our fashion 50. what more can you tell us about what's happening, the other cities under the dock at the moment? uh, there is 5 feet in on that actions. and there is a very strong push 5 from the joining forces and she's on, um foss. useful are predicated inside this to be uh, most of the attacks are happening on civilian facilities, particularly civilians, homes by clicks, uh who are working on and fi shares, their homes has been completed destroyed. you know, we used to have a, a, a, a small items to trustees center in apple show. com. it's completely

that exist at the moment is completely wiped. you know, from professional virus that is a lot of casual days. there is people who work getting cold, trying to be on the bar, don't speak of shooting at buffalo, which has been fully occupied by dogs, jasper fos. we know that most of the hospital sambal functioning at the moment. so it's, it's a very dire situation at this point in time to matilda. we're talking about upwards of 800000 people trapped in this oven area as this light thing ranges. i mean that the scenes that hello it's describing. buildings demolish hospitable is not working . was there hearing reports of food, a not being able to reach anyone? this is an absolute crisis and yet it's not making the headlines. why not? it's an absolute nightmare. it has to be, you know, under headlines. it's all the,

it's been ongoing by t d fighting people dying every day. not every day until like since the restaurants, it's been like this for 14 months. the capital has been excluded the entire region of dollars, the 3rd to the ground. people have been seeing and mess next to that is the largest displacement crisis in the well. and is that to be the largest home crisis in the world? and right now, like just before, i say we're like one of the largest c t ups are done and completely destroyed as, as, uh, i think it was just described like the, i don't, i cannot understand how neglected this crisis is compared to the tragedy that is ongoing, and i don't think the international community has really paid attention in the business that's 13 months and still now still not in the gathering together to, to stop reciting to, to read that the highest level. it's all there. can you show any lights on this? i mean, the world's largest displacement crisis,

the world was tongue of crisis. this is what the un is saying is there's a for, goes to increase is what the people simply not know what's going on to. it's a combination of several factors. i think it's a big ignored war. it suits the purposes to certain political entities that no one discusses, no one's topics, no one knows about. the war ensued on, and at the same time, i think there's also humans bias involved as in. this is another war in africa. they've always had trouble conflicts to downs histories, result with conflict. and so it's, it's like a brush stuff as another company is a trouble country. but i would like to add one say, you know, the number of people killed instead. um is more than 16000 b u and keeps trusting got this number and it's disingenuous because in the didn't know last year of more than 15000 we're mastercard. and then to gain, not uh the actually the correct, the correct figures are close to a 150000 people killed. and that's not even officially,

but it's approximate within the, in the past 14 months and politically so down has been sidelined. yes. so there are a number of conflicts happening in the world, but the spill over from the sit down more is tremendous. it affects the whole region. it could easily affect the whole continent of africa and nothing is being done. the shuttle diplomacy that so many countries are known for is seriously lacking when it comes to sit on the let me just jump in there and pick up on one point that you may just just before you made many of the excellent points that i hope we'll get to later in the discussion, you said the suits, political ends to certain political entities. can you elaborate on that and tell us who as well the armies have backers. the u. e has been confirmed that feedback the are assessed and the army is being supported by the age

of shingles. going to a certain extent and to a right now you're wrong. and they're trying to, you know, sign a deal with russia. so i mean, when it comes to the way it is also challenges involved. the wagner group has a role to play. and so these entities are in the way the public masters of this part of this war. you know, i'm not enough pressure has been applied on both of them on both. the backers of both said military armies to ensure leather seats far is actually hold, hold the safe passage ways for aid is made safe categories for his civilian evacuation. nothing. the only time simply an evacuation was actually a co, what's when foreign nationals were allowed to me. me. other than that, there's never been a safe passage make. first of the civilians, 10000000 people displaced is not a small number. it is a significant. it's getting a porto facilities population, a quarter how the different handle is that let me just bring holler in at this point. i want to get her thoughts on these outside agencies. countries that are

fueling the role of the u. a. yvonne that sort of, they are being accused. what did they stand to gain from being involved in this conflict? so that's a good question that we have been asking 2075 civilian service activities. who has been up there? i think i'm p box and stuff already out of what's happening in our country show up and that's a $1000000.00 by chance. what are they are today? you know, our don't use much destructions and violations that's happening every day in the plug box that's taking place. it's to that. i'm a, you know, i just would like to take a step back and speak a little bit about the collection of this to down questions or that has happened since 2013 seems a fully of pressure to do. but how, you know, for the international community on the transition and government beds,

i'm the military indeed substitute on they have no defense, tedious. we, the volatility of the risk of the country was confronted with both, specially here the conflict in depth. 40 never ends and it's never stopped by to say, i'm the, you know, they're allies, melisha, they have been continuously have the, you know, and filed it to be a no kind of population send the daughter of nations across the floor. i need many parts of, of the for to 5. so there is a lot of issues that was allowed to be sad to pay it. you know, and i think, you know, that transition issue that has been looked at by the lights on right now. as we are, they just hit the price or the collections, you know, and for the fact that the situation so gun has not been taken seriously. and we are not be getting this crisis. we were off to be left alone. and as certainly a said,

you know, the issue for fiction is not an issue that centralized physicians, one decadence crisis is too bad. it's about protections because the video, but the primary cause i went on the floor in this, in this conflict. and you know, yes, it's a conflict between 2 but insurance, but it happens inside to be here for us to get these insights to begin thoughts. you know, i'm, i'm, and this is what we have been doing. so the level of trust stuff is, you know, i'm cars, yours is just extremely high. but hi, mathilda, accusations of atrocities have been leveled both sides ers, that they don't seem to take kelly, bruce hill, when it comes to dealing with the local population with infinity and populations being connected to mass because it's being connected to sexual violence,

salvation. why is this the rest of the method of war 5? and i don't so you can get, create, understand this psychology of the iris as well, sir, but it's to the right. like do more as the thoughts on people and people's body young women's body on people's home schools as you know, hospitals and the characters degree of this for us that every single day international human need to know as the lights and the violates it just last week in sierra, which used to be the bread basket. the so the a 100 villages and perhaps more not just villagers, sorry. with children. the mess must mess it could really just in one day, people in high use of high level the width and just like that. and you know, again like what is what has happened in a search here is terry thing. and it's really a cool what has happened twice last year where you have an entire propagation has

been disseminated english, the horse, and not very far away from the session. because of the music and those, you know, it says i have to flee to child because it was just impossible to, to continue to be in was the hoard and being attacked for, for who then words which is necessarily tapped depletion. dahlia at the us invoices through dawn has worn that old fashion could full imminently to the reassess. if it does so, it has been taken over the whole of the full region. what do you think it's going to do with that? what's, how much is time for the, for and are elation of the people of that for he has presidents, he has history. this is what the r a substitute formerly known as agenda we did 20 years ago. you know, they had to come to genocide and they're coming to genocide right now. uh, there's a lot of, there's lots of pay here. there's cultural,

this politics is just our pay. all of it is in bold and, and fashion isn't fashion falls. then the order is simple and the way end up, oh, controlling 60 percent of the guy. i mean the show will be in control of 60 percent of saddam's land. and they've shown in the past 12 months to know just how much over genocidal massacring entity they are. and they continue to do that in plain sight. and no sanctions have been placed on them. no punishment has been met. it all told them, i would just like to go back to a point as to what to the other countries or other nations have to gain from being moved into. it's a form of neil colonialism. you're talking about resources so not and has rich agriculture. land has minerals has gold, has access to the rec, see,

so you're talking about geo politics, you're talking about a, a form of new power, say in the region. and those countries, you know, expanding their territorial interests be on their own borders. and if that means moving into new territories and africa, they know it still got a new scramble to look for africa. only this time it's done by new upstairs and the political field, as opposed to the traditional colonial powers. so this is what's up today and people, you know, the international community will only wake up when it's 2 days when it's far, far too big for anybody, for anything to be done. and by then i hate, i hate to say, but what will be left of so that i don't think anyone knows. wait, that's a bull. well, hello the us. ok, let's, let's bring it and holler at that point to because the have been peace efforts, multiple piece efforts, in fact, by the international community. but at every step they have failed and they have been for gossen. why is it so difficult for the international community to come

together to stop this war? i think the more that piece of piece engagements, all of the attempts of all of these efforts around suzanne has points to simply be emphasizing of focusing on, you know, uh the sherry formula. and, and that has been the case of many, many sites and that's the main be sort of the fact that we keep going on side comes to biology because they have not been significantly best smit. you know, either by the pressure of the bridge. i would, i would like smoke defense or lot of the things i brought to the community general, but i would like to speak about. so now i'm 40 to 78. so to there is a serious issue of not of large from the past mistakes. and it proceeds on issues of power and control without any clear

elements of political products. and there i think from the past experiences of the other issue that's courtney simply need. think 2 of the disagreements is the lack of accountability. me as a significant and the only thing that keeps happening. uh that is, it has been so in both the ad and so in order to come to commit such a trust that these for over 20 years. and so when they are no she, when they launch the war, you talked to, i mean did the yeah. and the to see exactly what they have done in that for, you know, in terms of destructions or fluid communities of infrastructure of transferring products. the community is robust, the farming is displayed on the same ballpark. um,

except the size, massive dispositions of trauma and, and sexual wow. that has happened before over the past 20 years. nothing to this discount, but did happen before. and they thought the way of going to the bottom. it has been lower, the price to the new duties. i said has been rewarded by the international community . you know, i'm looking at houses has been easily they've gone by, you know, engaging with ours espend thinking that they do utilize them as proxy. power says, you know, to set the fire well, says i'm and i'm at the same size, you know, at the bottom by the 34. so i can talk to you and respond things that they are northbrook see any bar. okay. yeah. okay. all right. yeah. um yeah, donna, i just want to ask if you, you agree with that the, the, one of the key issues here is that all the actors in suits on fail believe probably rightly that they can act with impunity. and i mean,

you mentioned before the beginning, but it is extraordinary or that we don't even know how many people have been killed them, not some itself is extraordinary that we do not have a clear number. it ranges from 15002850000. no one is watching the 7 know cameras the there is no john lists. they cannot for them to unity company can and they are. and they haven't, let me, they, i mean, if you just look at our recent history from the post revolution, the massacre of the sits and no one was ever held accountable. the genocide of death for no one was held accountable. if you could, if you do not have justice, if you don't have accountability, then this is what you will end up with a war between 2 power hungry general. and doesn't matter who gets caught in the middle, which is always the civilians. and in the political system that is just not too interested in what's happening and they will only get to go to the doctor, the impacts them directly the open,

when more displaced people try to cross into european countries or try to find, you know, a sense of safety somewhere else? well obviously you have a lot of people. matilda already have escaped and probably will be trying to escape into chad. is that route still open to people? depending on where they are. um, a lot of people right now are in a slasher. i trust you. uh, i have a colleague who just left i'm such in last week it was a very treasures during the last 4 days and he had to cross through a desert. they had to cross through different check. fine, sol, and 3. you find me, you know, theory to be detained as the taxes or have skills that you, you don't, it's came out of fashion easy. the actually actually described it as it opened prison. so the people that we are seeing and shot right now. uh the one of this is,

i know some people who are writing in charge because know because it's the finest because they've seen hunger. that's something i want you to insist he was on the or said that as to that i had a lot of resources including agriculture resources. and that was indeed one of the big baskets of the confidence. right now you have a nice ac and people who are highly secure, who can best needs. and we have probably more than a 1000000 people were at the risk of. so i mean is not, you know, already, i mean, and when i say, man, you can use that to my, to my attorney in the court. what they see is that people are 18 these 18181 the other day. the key we have women were asked to do in gauging, controls, action with sex and whether to, to, to for truth, i've heard of the use of it to, to sell their roof. they need a new shelter that's made of nothing and that's to share their so they're working with the to, to get something treat so like the situation is terrible and people are not seeing,

you know, the back to grow. and the bombing and the indiscriminate finance and, and the reading deals to being hunger. hello. uh, there was a paris during the conference just recently that managed to raise $2000000000.00 us dollars in pledge is not actual money, but pledges. there is money to be given to agencies to get food in, but why, what are the adults that goes to guessing the food from the agencies, into the full region and into the, into the people who actually need it right now. you know, the whole country is going to a very unique yes war. so every part of the country, even the so called for the quote, you know, uh, uh, preventative districts. it's under the port charlotte staff. you know, all the states that are to be stuff artist is, is in for the port charles already they are is do you know of my,

on the 3rd of this. so this is what you know. so i have that issue protection, which is why i'm say that's to dance prices, you know, is a protection price. and i think it's one of the biggest protection crises that happened in our pick up. so the level protection store, a large extent, you know, $88.00, hang there, the access to it, be also the of interest structures to process it. you know, um, uh there is a lot of people can i see that it is from both of, i mean that's, that's happening a far too down side. but or she from the side. you know, i'm the fact that, you know, be uh when bishops off to the new civilian is not a priority to any of the actors locked out. she's done at the moment. i'm,

and that's to be one of the big challenges. okay, so the bring you in at this point because i saw that you had caught a reaction when i mentioned the power as donor conference. what did you think of this? i mean, like you said, they've touch, but nothing has been given. i think the age funds for suzanne stands of 2200000000 and only 12 percent has been coverage. and yet in january the you just signed off on the 50000000000 a package to ukraine. so that leads to point 1000000 troops to point 2000000000. if you have a famine and people die and have them hunger, you have people in refugee comes where a lot of agencies have have to start operating because they do not have you know, they're required the medical medicine or food supplies. and it's just funny. i mean, they own flags, but nothing has come through. and i know like they say you can walk the walk, but can you talk the talk and until the money gets down to the agencies?

oh, did i do? i do agree that both sides are hindering the delivery of age and they're also hindering, in terms of, you know, giving permits to agencies and a your cousin visa is and they tax them and there's another, you know, all the other factors involved. but agencies have a way they can, they know how to deal with both sides to ensure that they get through to the people who need it are case under the money to do that. i just want to get one last thought from you. what happens if nothing is done? the instruction of access? i've never seen that in the carrier. it's one of the most difficult country to work in as a humanitarian. because work is a systematic leave. lot uh, agencies from reaching people. and i can tell you what's happening right now is that the reason why people are surviving is because we have the teachers who didn't use we're on the ground on the front line, risking their lives to,

to say their peers. just yesterday, a community workers were killed, do not foster these avalanches. they're not, they're not wearing any to any. and you, you know, little go, they just doing it, you know, out of themselves and they're running soup kitchen and shelters. and they helping research facebook kids for children to me and offering photographs. and these ones are so being intact, so it's not only about uh, you know, reaching the she says to you there also some things. and that we have run out of time was by strong and vital discussion there many things to all of you for joining us here today. thought it mohammed doing my name mattel's view, and holla, i'll curry, and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting a website. that's all just there. a dot com for discussion. do you guys? well, facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story is also doing

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