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a competitive does crisis can into is private us but pushed through economic performance with a reduced parliamentary majority and how the, how should pilgrimage is boosting. so these are counting the cost on, i'll just say around the, to somebody like me enough and economist what i see is a complete poverty of ideas. the fan, your pre about give you kind of makes if that happens in any other profession, they will be fired. yeah, well, not just fire. they would go to prison. yeah. if you're talking about changing people's minds, then i think it will come down to literature and films and songs and all out. basically, the answers to 70 is brian. you knows radical approach has changed the way we listen to music along the way. he's collaborated with some of the was most respected

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can make us think differently about society, kind of economics, make us more humane. can they both work together? good on so hard protected climate change. and how can we make people actually can the, [000:00:00;00] the recently i saw are in the newspaper in a london full of train strikes, nothing strikes people's going to food banks, etc, etc. i saw on the front of the financial times that the foot c $100.00 attention whole time. hi,

a nice what. how can that be the best so much going on there at the top and such a bad situation at the bottom. how can that be? no, i mean uh this is because, uh, in the last few decades of a new liberalism, we have built this economy that does not have anything to it. uh, the lives of ordinary people anymore. and not the 1st time, you know, during the pandemic and there in the us that interpreted in many cultures. so markets that kept breaking the record when there are literally millions of people dying and shops clause paper losing jobs going hungry. i mean dies deal made because of that i said the main street and the wall street has nothing to do with each other anymore. yeah. yeah. so thought i basically read about now live in this financial lives economy where the, where is the an income just that the guest siphoned up word. yeah. it's the sort of the opposite of what was expected. they used to talk about trickle down,

but actually a little tricky was out it's, i freaking up. yeah. but i, i read just recently that i'm as $42.00 trillion dollars of new wealth was generated during the pending and that 65 percent of that had gone to the top one percent. we had been basically do you know, uh because uh these, the architects of, uh, deal liberty economic system based on no maximum power to them. i could, you know, the minimum regulation for corporations, privatizing that but the basic services it has not deliberate. anything that you've had problem is yeah. do you, was it actually part deliver one thing, you know, increase the and you call it the, i mean it's a totally missed that well at least react with that. the generate and close. yeah. this across much as well. yeah. you know, but the reach of the nearby average is the stupid documents for anything. yeah. because even if it's as 0 point one percent per year,

you are each of the never because if you keep growing, you're going to be rich or the name of high definition yet, well to somebody like me. and that's an economist. what i see is a complete poverty of ideas. i. i see people always saying the same things about economics as though there's only one way of thinking about it and acting as though there's no, there are no other options that this form of capitalism is that we have is the only possibility. that's why uh no, but i understand you're supposed to have us said that the fingers don't band is is to try the same thing again and again and expect different results. and this has been happening in the last several years. and now it's actually a big mystery to me. you know, if the, the fan, your mainstream economics of a free market economics, if that happened in any other profession, they would, will be fired. yeah, well, not those fire. they would go to prison. yeah. yeah. it was good. yeah, let's get them to prison. yeah, no really. i mean that the, as

a financial crisis display for the nobel prize, it isn't. yeah, it's very rare that people are you close, and bankers get upon is despite destroying lives, a bus. so many people, and this is why we get that is angry politics, you know, and people are, have most job security and, or their income that has been the stacking on, you know, so which one will believe is vastly reduced and they become very angry. and then the oldest demagogues will come in and tell them to blame the wrong things. yeah. well here's another disparity. on the one hand, do you have people's lives experience, which is that things are not getting better. things are getting worse for most people. and then you have a kind of intellectual elite who say no, no, no, you're just reading the picture wrong, things are definitely getting back to. and i think how can you maintain that? it's a little bit like people sitting on the titanic on that last summer. they had, they're saying it's really wonderful to be alive now. is meant to be in the fastest

shipping the well, let's try this. the iceberg. yeah, no, i mean, does it take god? okay, so britain, i mean, you get all these reports of, of the school children stop being, you know, coming to school with a slice of motor, the bread you know, and then stealing, taking stronger cereals. exactly. i mean, how can you to accept that in one of the richest site is that the community it has ever been, but we have to console kind of, i used to the, this pre bucket logic that it doesn't even make headlines. yeah. but in this system, is there any way of limiting that sort of growth of inequality? you're not the 1st step to changing the world is to reach you stocks up that things happen because they have to know that they don't have to ask me. but what economics is always, at least in the last 50 years,

succeeded in doing is convincing people that there's some sort of automatic self regulation system that we have to submit to. that it was kind of a fact of nature that somehow if we let the market control of things, they would sort themselves directly. uh, we have a habit of thinking, but things that are constructed by humans as some have become natural phenomena like the cloud, you know, everyone thinks the cloud. what do you think that is just tons of bloody computers sitting in this in warehouses in iceland? exactly. uh no, no, i mean uh this uh, the natural light is, you know, but something is the most dangerous thing because all, once people begin to accept that, you know, public, it is natural. any colleges match or climate disasters a nachos, then we are not going to do anything about it. and that's the worst thing that can happen. so we will always need to look beyond. is that the phase? yeah, yeah. we also need to question,

when something is becoming fundament list. so what's happened with to market economics here is that it's become a sort of fundamental list item of belief it's, it's not any longer an empirical, well pragmatic process. yeah, i know. i think that the most dangerous thing is for people to accept bodies date does because inevitably now they have been brainwashed to think that free trade is the better for you for them to develop line. if you're doing to free trade, you're in the, in terms of prior, uh, you know, it's list deadly would freedom, which is used to cover so many different things. so it's assume that free trade is necessary. if you're going to have free speech or free associates, i know all those freedoms are seen as belonging together and you comp take them a pop. and in fact, even free trade is kind of nonsensical. you know, they're all sorts of limitations that we accept to those ideas of freedom. and yet

we still treat it as some kind of inviolable absolute. yeah, i mean free trade. what does it mean? i mean means of freedom for those who are doing the trading, doing more or less. yeah. so in the 19th century, it does that the a stand the practice that the rico country is well for us to sign the so called on equally treat is like the managing treaty that the china to sign off to the opium wall or the is on the go treat is that a lot to record countries, of course design of the independence and they will force to practice free trade. where is that the stronger country is that the freedom not to that the practice of free trade? yeah, yeah. so during that period, pedo looks like on the free trade was mostly, is conducted by on free nations in. mm hm. so, and the common fremont code, you know, we are supposed to love it because we all the freedom lovers, but the free in what, yeah, i mean basically that the free in free market,

you cannot reach the means of freedom to use you appropriate the tool make uh, as much profit as you want me. any other freedoms uh, clash we did this uh you called me is that a very happy to uh reject those. yeah. so for example, in july, uh, when do i pay, you know, chad the stage does that the blood, the cool in the 1973. yeah. you know, the, the floors are but the free market like of milton friedman and free the kayak actually supported that. uh. so i do know that you yeah, yeah. do you know to know that uh, you know, deal nodes, it was, uh, i thought this freedom is the freedom to use that property really and not to be participate divide this social is the state is far more important than the people his political freedom. but they are the right to life. yeah. yeah. so it's a little bit like him to what socialism, which used to mean a way of helping the pool, but in fact they only socialism that government's practice now is failing. the writ

trapped. perfect. so yeah, they're actually called the the d i'll make are right. the famously said that the american economy system is capitalism for the pool and socialism for the rich. here on this, you have bought every citizen going, saw me comics. democrats is meaning as yeah. yes. at the end, you don't know what you're voting for. yes. and the other thing you might want to add to that is that there are certain areas of life where those rules don't apply. so, you know, economics covers a certain parts of our lives and a good economics would be better than the bad when we have now. but they might also be parts of life that don't fit into those equations as well. oh, yeah. you know, i think god does on the stream, the important point, i mean, is psalm, all we have come to accept that you called the big logic. got kind of impinging everything. mm hm. so we have to be able to say that these things should be off the

table because these are things that we don't want to be improvised by you kindly logic. yeah, yeah. i mean, thought the only thought that way we can make uh, genuinely decent and germane society because otherwise everything is for for sale. yeah. we don't want that kind of one. so we want the basic services. basic rights. yeah. at the law, can you not the areas they have to be protected from? you can make legit. yep. let's go some questions. how do you see alternative views of the allotment like the girl falls or but when they read, who puts like the wellbeing of communities above profits? do you see any hope? yes. i see a lot of hope. i see a lot of experiments going on in the world which get very little press attention, but there's so much going on in the world. and as i'm very optimistic about, for instance, the growth of citizens assemblies. so the growth of participates,

re budgeting. this is where citizens decide have city budget so, so the spent the growth of all sorts of ways of communities coming to decisions, not from the top down from the bottom up. and we almost completely ignore it as a story. but i think that's the story about future people across the world are really struggling with the cost of living crisis. what do you think could bring an end to this global crisis? what a pothole, but this cost of living crisis is on the supply side now. so the water new crew. ready and the destruction of a global supply chain because of the the corporate fund. ready again, the stuff like that, but most of it is basically a distribution i struggle with now. i mean now that we have 5 people who cannot afford to keep their houses and their or your company is making directly profit. yeah. i mean, how is that possible?

yeah, already because that, that you let this, that the companies that do that. yeah. so actually there are a lot of things that you can do as a society to our libya to unfortunately it is the adult political leader who is willing to step into this. so that's why you're suffering like this kind of question. so today we have a lot of 1000000000 as trying to make it in space and potentially flies to other planets. i'm old enough to remember the moon landings and how inspirational labor and a lot of good seems to come from that in a way. do you think that money is better spent on this rather than in space? i think i thought this is a huge waste and i mean we have a prevalence of poverty and hunger and children's stunting or on the was and i mean these that, that the space project. yeah. i mean,

thought that that with me does century is to come to the any realistic that the prospect i think is that, that, that to, to raise the money. and i think it's a sign also of something that is quite menacing, which is the very wealthiest people have were idea by end of this planet. and what they're concerned with now is to control as much as they can. or, you know, by off an island of fiji or a piece of new zealand or a bit of montana surrounded with troops and defend themselves against the future which they are busy creating. oh, i see it is part of a very negative trend, or how do we build a fair global economy, particularly for people in low income countries, while still mitigating the facts of climate change? yes,

a global reward is have to change. there are so many things in the global wars on the international trade and investment. and so in that us, rick august, the poor countries that has to be reparation. the full past damages at the colonialism, slavery, and other things that has to be more transformed to colleges. and how about the genuine partnerships between the rich countries and the poor country is to develop capabilities there. i mean, it's unfortunate, i think, is the, even the relatively good guys that die in the rich country is basically taking this the charitable approach to helping developing countries. now we'll give you a bit of money. we looked at the invest of it in your education. you know, we did give you micro fine as but no, i mean you cannot develop your economy, you shouldn't protect good industries. you cannot that joy and the height the

college industry is. so. i mean, one of my favorite saying is that if you give up my fate of fish, human it for a day. but if you're teaching out to fishing it for life. yeah. unless the developed countries of stolen little official coast. oh yeah. but i think the key is some kind of respect. we used to thinking about sales as a center of the world and advanced and so on. and eventually all the rest of them will catch up to somehow or other. but what we're doing in the process of that is completely ignoring any kinds of indigenous knowledge and experience. you know, so where we're going in destroying forest and the people who live in the monday to worse than die, even though they still that normally is. yeah. yeah, so, so i think it has to stop by us respecting all of the other intelligence on the planet outside of the little bit. so we have to control and saying, what do you think should happen here?

not tubs working out a plan for the planet, and then imposing it, sticking on the conversation, topic of developing countries and developed countries. what role do you think the u . k. have in poverty alleviation in them, is least due to all road and position in the region during the 20th century. but once again, the aid is uh, not the solution you have to attend and allows these countries to develop their own capabilities and their because that threatened asset that so much responsibility for how things are in the list because it buys a corner in their past. uh, but uh, you know, even ignoring that. yeah. so you need to create an environment where this country is gonna be invested in building a product. if capability is educating people, you know, invest in research. and that's not going to happen simply by giving the money because out there, or it is the intention trade rules,

the investment rules that restrict got the ability of developing countries to do these things. and there, or this column is going to this country is saying that you should keep doing free trade will never protect anything which means that they're going to be stuck with the primary commodities. whatever the, the other thing i would add to that is that some britain is the money loaner of the world. and we're really, really good at, we're the best in the world dealing with collect the crafts and all the gods and cooks. and i think one thing we could do to possibly answer your question is stop doing that because what we're doing is we're taking all that money. that clip to chronic rulers have ripped off from their populations. and we're putting that into the nice little accounts. and in the new day, you know, so if we stopped doing that, it would be a huge help to the rest of the world. a. hi,

i'm marie desilva and i'm from sure. long coast. sure. long cadillac, many of the, some of the states has received several, i mess agreements through the years when now at the point of reading, i think i'll 17th how much you would attribute the state of economic collapse to these kind of agreements versus how much of it is generated from the national economic and political situation. i also saw that touching you were a signatories who the statement by academics to cancel that. so calling for that justice for countries like sure, lanka which presents a really radical way of dealing with that in code by developing countries. so i just wanted to see your thoughts on that. yeah. if you to have some problem on went to the same doctor a 17 times and us fill it out. okay. the i was, i went up but the trouble is that there's a new one doctor in town. you know? so you have to go to that guy here. so that's that ogden,

they probably will. of course that includes the sizing, you know, organizations like god. yeah, it does. your money to fund and the word bank and that behind them. but the us treasury because you know, the us has defect or veto in those organizations. i'm not saying that there is no problem in developing countries. i mean, there's another bookcases about mismanagement and corruption. and so as a, you know, i can, the generalize over the course of developing was the i m f at least has kind of alternated his view in the last decade. oh so, so maybe there's some hope there are as for that kind of vision. yes, you know that is this the concept about audio stat? no. so the court up or james that take you on this dead set though, with kickbacks and so on. so this is intentionally recognized concepts. rich countries have to accept that this. uh, that's will not be page. i'm going to do a simpler on,

so i sent over. mm hm. so we need the size. i'm going to back global deal and is uh, individual country is really find it very difficult to do it. and so on the topic of climate change you mentioned earlier, how do you think the journalists on story tellers, in general, can best convey the topic of climate change to people to avoid the news or people that just kind of distance themselves from the issue entirely? well, i think we're drowning people, in fact doesn't really help, and i think it hasn't changed anyone's mind. so i think what we have to do is start to engage people emotionally. and this is done by kind of making people aware of how it affects their lives. now, and making them aware of the lives of others who have been much more seriously affected. for instance, i don't know if you read them, came stanley robinson's book ministry for the future. it's sort of a speculative fiction of us,

but i think that has more to say to most people about the next 50 years than any scientific document. it's not to say those documents aren't important, but if you're talking about changing people's minds and changing the way they think about it, then i think it will come down to literature and films and songs. and oh ok. basically, they, they present you with the wells and they say, is this the world you want, you know, 1984, for instance, by george orwell. when it is written with a sort of proposition, we could have a way i would like this. what do you think? funnily enough, we have go as like the pullout is kind of suggesting other wells to saying what, what a world like this be like, have the experience, see how you feel about it. all,

i quoted myself about the funniest. the color is in the world. yeah. it's not that difficult there because i don't have any competition. the in the us is changing. why aren't we? we have civil cells from the living world. i. the re uncovers theme difficult to convert the meaningful climate tax and everything is totally unexplored support can still be done. we need to imagine and create a new reality. one that is based on a transformation of the way we make sense of the world and out place. oh, hail the planet. coming soon on 20, interrogate the narrative, is the u. s. has continued support for israel affecting is global standing. there's no question about the united states is effectively complicit to the genocide challenge. the rhetoric?

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