the the is what was prime minister said to address a joint session of the us congress next month. benjamin netanyahu, his 1st trip to washington since the last 2 devastation, one, gaza test page could have been political implications for president joined by them and as well. so what might happen, this is inside story, the

hello and welcome to the program. i'm elizabeth put on them next month, as well as prime minister benjamin netanyahu and address the us congress. he'll make history is the only word lead it to do so for a full time underlining the extent of this very power and influence and us politics for joe biden. it presents a tricky political challenge in the middle of a presidential campaign for nothing. yahoo, it's a challenge to turn the screws and show as wells klaus in washington. america has been israel's main supply of forts, devastation, one, gaza. whitehouse needs has developed as the will progresses and the election loons closer to now who has plowed on regardless, ignoring us statements. so what will be the impact of this trip, both in the us and for nothing yahoo and as well, we're exploring all this and lots more of, i guess in a few moments. first, this report from laura con, united states. and mister different magic spot seems to be driving

a wedge between us on its way to lead as it comes is benjamin netanyahu is set to address a joint session of the us congress next month. nothing yahoo has already voices and about the us pulse again on the shipment of 900 kilogram booms. i said, it's inconceivable that in the past few months, ministration has been with a whole weapons and ammunition stores of israel americans closest allies fighters for it's like finding the density wrong and our other commonalities. the white house spokes person hits back those kind of so deeply disappointing and certainly vexing to us a given the amount of the support that we have and will continue to provide a prime minister netanyahu. the news is putting funding in an awkward position. no one in washington appears to know what's next here, who will say in his speech and some award, he may use it to pressure bodies in,

in giving him more military aids on the mays or in the 2015 speech to congress walberg almost in power. he made a stinging criticism of nuclear deal for the obama administration was pursuing with a run, calling it a very bad deal. a vomit refused to beat us and yahoo then us to then vice president bite and this time destiny, all who is likely to address be it's ray, the public showing that he's getting us support as he faces mounting public pressure from hundreds of thousands of people protesting against his handling of the will of gaza. the u. s. provides israel with $3500000000.00 and military aid every year, including those 900 kilogram bones. linda. so some sentences say they will boy called speech, but he found his, his coordinates neo, who will criminal until this between and says,

she'll skip it somewhere. but he has allies, senior republican and democratic leaders in congress, invited us and you know who to highlight us solidarity with israel. israel's one garza has already divided american public opinion, hundreds of thousands of people to protest it on the streets and universities across the us to voice their anger. and now many of waiting to see if next and you know, who will use this high profile speech to advance his stay to goals and garza and perhaps get even most support from the us north on the inside story, i'll just say around well, let's bring in i guess to the old joining us from the united states in washington dc, especially the most senior diplomatic correspondence at half post in cheyenne wyoming, is you'll see medical book and associated follow with the middle east and north

africa program at chatham pals and in boston. army 40 distinguished public policy fellow at the american university of they wrote a very warm welcome to all of us, stopped with our dc inside to up a. how anxious do you think the white house is about? nothing now? who is addressed to congress? a hey. so it says it's a really challenging time for the white house. i mean, when now at a point where a presidential debate is looming between present bite and lends his rival donald trump. and he has the 2nd time to buy a just a few weeks off to us. the problem is just for the white house is really not even so much about the policy or even guys or even that yahoo, it's about their own coalition. what me know about democratic folders is of 75 to 75. now oppose israel's actions and costs that we know payments and that and yeah, who is deeply controversial with them at the same time we know many democratic lawmakers likewise feel how can we boycott them? yahoo, i mean this is our, our oldest allied is the someone who's going to cascade us. so there's

a lot of anxiety at the white house. i see does also a lot of anxiety in capitol hill with democratic politicians. one to single support depends and fighting. but they also want to be distant from this, from the department of start, right? i mean, as the bus and right now who the international criminal court is potentially pursuing arrest smart support. so that also taking him outside storage to legacy beyond this is that that's a real kind of interest which kind of tired prizes this whole moment and sort of by then ministration on. got sign. it's real about. yeah, a lot to pick up on from what you've said, let be come to, you'll see, you know, oper was talking about the address of the democratic policy itself and its support for israel. the republicans is not as much of address for the republican party for a support of israel. so the republicans has invited nathaniel, who yes, the democrats had to agree for nothing. yahoo to address both chambers of congress bucks. do you think that's what do you think that nothing yahoo is trying to do with the risk within the democrats and the support,

the more unified support he has from the republicans? what will he do with the dynamics of the us right now? you'll see to thank you. i think it's, it's what the attorney or use is doing is actually playing both parties because the system is at the same time it is a, it's considered a concerted data base in case that the wall doesn't tend to waive into do for the last 8. maybe 9 months, so all for eliminating care. some us then it can, you know, if he doesn't blame the, the position and these are all it doesn't. but if it doesn't blame the military or, or the security, the organization is, i know you can blame actually that divide in administrative say the overall i got the munition to weapons from our best i like closest i like the new the one to. ready or the other hand, he intends extra, which i think is a very dangerous area of, of intervening, especially viewing election a you was eventually election you in american politics and not the jesus,

the range of him in, in doing so. he's that needs before is mentioned for in 2015, starting to do the jcp laying agreements. so that's what i'm trying to. and $11.00 and a few minutes might be that the starting next leave to go ahead and pay the time to in the election. and the other home he's playing is playing coldness by saying, look, you know, it's, it's all, it's all american politics fault if we don't dream the war. so. ready in election either you should support these are and ami. how do you see this upcoming visits by nothing. yahoo, and what do you make of, you know, everything you've heard so far using that death and you all who would use this address to criticize president biden. as we've heard, he has used, you know, a speech to the us congress to be critical of the us administration before president broccoli. bonus yvonne nuclear dale, which joe biden, you know, skipped. you know,

i will do everything that he's always done as prime minister and that most of the other is really prime ministers i've done before him for decades, which is to improve his political standing, i call and israel and promote of the lovely uh, designers does rarely propaganda, themes that have successfully for a century now brought the united states as a very back close the closest. so partner of israel and the, the close of support in the united states for his, you know, as low as been the congress of the president's come and go. but the congress has consistently been very, very pro, is rarely on this practice starting to show in congress there's probably 8090 a 100 members of congress who will oppose as rarely wishes may or not attend nothing. yeah. who has a speech? so this is a totally unprecedented situation in which nothing. yeah. who is known to use the totally pressure, the techniques of propaganda and political advantage. he's mainly looking at

a domestic audience in israel, in the united states. she has become very divisive, but more important than that the palestine issue has become a serious american domestic political force in the election here. okay. and we've seen the way, so this is a really, really unusual, but the very dynamic situation. yeah, that's a really interesting point. you may call me that you're predicting that nothing you all who will use presidente methods and what is, and i'm president of time i, but we have a us congress that you know, has it, can you help on international audience understand why the u. s. congress has for so many decades, overwhelmingly supported israel. and how is it increasingly out of step with what the us public wants, especially in an election? yeah, absolutely. i think it does a historic bipartisan push disappointing throughout right on the state of the us as

a relationship is a bedrock of all foreign policy. that's something we created by political pressures and elections. i mean, we don't have our fact to allow me because come out and save us right. a pack, which is a big price for a lobby groups here in the us. but other thoughts as that's like specific, a 1000000000 that donors who could be relevant to many members of congress and increasing what we've seen in, in recently as of actually normally because who don't want to not line who come out and say we all questioning israel's policy have seen millions of dollars bumped into tried to feed them. so this is the election as soon as also estimate philosophically important to many legislators. unimportant, tremendous. congress holds the pest friends. right? so you don't get that $3500000000.00 to israel every year that we were talking about earlier without congress approving it without congress pushing for on sales. the reason right now in such a strange position is that the buyer ministration has created. i've tried to do 2

things at once. it's tried to say we are pressuring israel on civilians and god, so by pressuring israel and ending the war and seize fire. at the same time, the administration has been aggressive with congress just recently. they pushed congress to release small size of truck to israel. this is something that top democrats didn't want to do. so that's a real dynamic here where the, by the ministration on top democrats in congress on together. and on the flip side, the on the spectrum title, trump is relevant because now who's not going to come right out and say, i'm trying to help elect donald trump. but by creating this impression that democrats don't know where they are. and israel impala sites don't have anything to offer. he's also bolstering plugin meant that donald trump and republicans have said, which is maybe democrats, or just abandoning israel and jewish americans. and that could be irrelevant and put in an argument that a lot of democrats are scared about coming in on the. yeah, and again, you'll see, you know, this is similar to the question before, but how much can nothing yahoo take advantage of when the democrats don't seem

united? the republican side, not just republicans, but the far right and his own coalition. you know, does he have something to gain at home from criticizing divided administration in front of the u. s. congress? so yeah, i think that sort of, nathaniel feels comfortable playing the stage maybe where no one actually believes the many anymore. and i said, well sorry to say that is, is very important because that is something i cannot do inactive states. it was difficulties or but doesn't want to simple within the hours to mrs. chuck schumer all over the senate. so chuck schumer said recently this is, i should the election. it's one to again, to ensure these are the secuity, but the doesn't support the way that these are to come back. the woman goes and how you are used to say is, is, is very different console doing like is this. and what i know divide in the nation doesn't do a very good job with that from that. then you know,

it's all about his police because the supervisor or i think it's, it's roughly reminding all over the that's, that's the facing collection. so i mean, these are the, and one of the reason that the bright 2 hostile files so desperately and foam and from the government is because of the school. it pro options. i'm so sorry to play . yes, he's basing is that and then we'll play the statement and it's always very popular and he's like, if you're seeing as sending up to f one enemies. and so. ready it's a like, any think you will gain some, some points there, but at the same time, what is the game that he's playing? and i think this one of the danger is that to you, mike. arlene mates altogether. the closest i did you meet so so desperately in times of crisis. okay. and brought out the really interesting point about the senate majority and data. chuck schumer, johnny. why did chuck schumer agree to inviting nothing? yahoo! and i think may it was, he agreed to this visit, you know,

to nothing yahoo addressing both chambers. when in march he said that nothing y'all who was an obstacle to peas. and as you'll see, said he close elections in israel. a good structure, more like by done like less than yeah, like most of these characters and the executive and legislative branches of the both governments are too fast lawyers. they don't know how to keep a commitment. they only know how to act in their, in the service of their own permanent incumbency. and for this really is in the service of total american support for israel. you know, the americans are a, the government is making some criticism from the who are here and. busy and stuff about the. busy about the united states has been and susie aspect consistent out front cheer leading supporter of the as rarely, genocide there's still some extraordinary situation where the u. s. at israel

together are being taken to court of the united states and other places for genocide and complexity. and genocide, so the us government is not an impartial act or the us government certainly is generally governments or one party the american congress. there is one element in this dynamic from the support for israel is still strong, but it's not as strong as i used to be. and this is the big story in the united states, up in all the traditional foundations of us support government support for video or framing at the edges that haven't collapse, but they're offering at the edges. public opinion students, intellectuals, media, labor unions, church groups, political parties, even members of congress. busy criticizing israel, so chuck schumer is showing that he is above all a 2 faced, typical, successful american politician who says one thing and then changes to the next month because it's more beneficial for him to change of these guys. and some

a girl lady is becca no, no sense of consistency. the principles. they're political animals whose aim is incumbency. and we're seeing this, we'll see it played out and many, many ways in the coming what the difference is, the big difference. as i said briefly before, is the palestine issue has become for the 1st time of years of this conflict of domestic american political factor electoral political factor and nothing. yeah. who's coming to college? there's nothing new, but people supporting palestine all over the us is, you know, we don't know how that's gonna play out. but this is a completely unprecedented situation. and they have nothing, you know, a presence is trying to take him back to his old ways where the congress of supporting of the, as rarely as the jewish people. but then they don't understand the as rarely as the big tremendous supports they have from the 1940s until

a few years ago as freight and as you frame crating. um. but yeah, been able to make a and it will be really interesting to see how it plays out before the election and crucially on election day off. but you know, some of the mentions numbers that you, yourself have mentioned 64 percent of democratic lucius. think israel is committed war crimes and guys, a 56 percent believe it's commissioned genocide. that's according to the doctor for for progress. think tank of the democrats worries about what's going to happen about their support in the election campaign and on election day. what are the, what's the calculation they're making at the moment? yeah, i think the problem is really interesting. was that cheerleading right. the americans being too drastic, shelly revived. he's another was that's quite common not in washington which is enabling. right. people are very aware that these are us main site that's, that's dropping us, me bombs on hospitals, on children. it's

a us spot blockades. so there's a lot of concerns. some will make us a lot of people out, some of the who have printed these weapons sales on well from budgets. i, i just invite us to zoom out, right. that's a real desire to personalize this and say, benjamin, that neo horrible man, the opposed spent some obama. but for a lot of these have are crowded low mean because you have a comfortable reality that having to fees as again ronnie said, as paula side has like, risen to the floor. and it's unprecedented to be these. everybody told me cuz i'd be off by didn't you do anything about this earlier? right? prior to october 7th. might have we gotten to this place of silence all the time off of the top, which led to many is really being killed in costs just being taken. and now it's a pretty southern housing policy. it means that so this is creating a broader conversation. i think that's what democrats us struggling in the assembly . we have to offer a message that's not just, we want a dismissal for the government. we want someone who's not benjamin netanyahu. it has to be a new c, some spots under cod, section 5, but seem to so it has to be about how do we get to be some stability,

right. how does the fact that we are supporting this middle eastern ally, not in time, the less and was a new me over this is not just the shadow of donald trump. it's also the shadow abroad a war, which is a real concern for americans. so that's one that's the thing. economic childs as climate change. other issues, people do not want to be thinking about the risk of 11 or more, which is very real and make sense beyond that and yahoo to a lot of the, it's very political and military establishment. that's something congress is thinking about as well. so i think you're going to need these bigger picture on says to occupation to a possibility for 3, the actions in gaza and to broader long term sustainable stability. and not just how do we hold in that and, you know, and so the, certainly that's what the democrats are saying that they want for the actions don't seem to match what they're saying. you'll see what do the republicans want and all of this because they're the ones who extend of invitation to nothing. yeah. to yeah, and i, i can de adele plain politics in which this will because out of time to undermine

that day by then the ministration there want to show that, you know, it slipped enough to bite. and s s is august said the to electric state and name is what's happening that i know you guys us. they think they can even have it. and i believe in even more what happens in, in gaza and this thing, this right? so in the book we see that right now, and sometimes we need to go and see if it's in the store. so the context is the neglect. so these are the values standing policy in the united states by the installation of the community. so it was a really long time everyone, so that was a states of scroll down a few things thing either it's counting both. ready can get any, any was, and it was obvious, it's one point to whom that the kids would a get to us. and the 2nd that was the evidence and what's happened since, since since then, and it's running stuff to play domestic politics, whether obviously it needs to have in the middle of. ready all in the united states is never good news because they're kind of way to continue. and instead of as

a change of ministration in the, in the united states, you might expect that the extra works for them to teneo complains about enough enough. i'm your nation of them, sorry. which by the way the administration would be nice. it's would actually being if it's cool, i've been rectified. so the situation is guessing then just guess in guys or in the west bank, we don't pay enough attention. what's happening in the west bank because balance there is getting reservation is moving, drenched, and then then, then as a circular violence which, which makes it was the, we say a government because he's already government and security folks. his complacent contains, at the time, the situation, lebanon, and the both of the is, is on the venture for foods cable. from me, you also mentioned the international community that how does the u. s. congress? is it aware of what it looks like to the world to invite a man for whom the international criminal court seeking a rest once a will crimes for crimes against humanity? the leader of

a country who the international court of justice is investigating for genocide? yeah, the answer is that is lovely of the united states congress, especially the republicans have no idea about what's going on in the world and especially what's going on, at least as i said, the type of politicians, they just want to stay in power and exercise. so that the benefits of power, the higher the tremendous higher make the tragic and cool army of all this is that both the american and the is rarely strategies and guys a field. and then loving a failed. and i'm secretary blinking, who was a cartoon like character who pops up every saturday morning, making another trip to them, at least to try to create enhancing around me on a coalition which they've been trying to do something. alexander haig was a foreign secretary many decades ago. these temperatures have no idea about how to

deal effectively with the power forces and the human sentiments of the people all around the police. they only understand the use of force, and they only understand the use of sanctions and compelling people to follow their imperial lead. but the strategies are failing. the us of israel have a terrible time, the loveliest and in the world, the other them being and banded them, taking the court and all that. they're wildly isolated in a new one village and other for a hand. they have very, very little respect and they're losing their respect within the united states and within israel as well. so this is an extraordinary important historical moment. and certainly the most pivotal moment in my career. and i've been doing this for 55 years now. since 1968 i started being involved in the least issues publicly when i was up to the course of the, the us. and this is the most dramatic moment that signals serious change. the structural change within the us, within israel,

them at least within the countries. if you look at his bottle and come out of some sort, a lot of others. what think doing the governments are all, you know, they're taking vacation somewhere. southern france probably. who knows what they're doing, but they're not doing very much at all. and the israeli government, a strategy is not working. the american government strategy is not work. so the real thing for all a freefall incessantly, some would argue a complete failure of the international community. but the one guys are very much continuing and it's 9th month on the do use see this trip having an impact on the wars old i think that's a real hold from the by the ministration. but they can have this impact, but it boils down to it, but some of us leverage, right? the sheet is where the decision making and what we think consistently from the administration is really more rhetoric, a toyota, rav of them, any kind of real pressure on benjamin netanyahu. in the speech, in so many ways is

a combination of the right. these really leadership feels not just entitled to unchecked american support on a comfortable american sport consistently. it feels beacon come to your capital. i'm not sure you and that's the moment we're right though. i think the biggest sort of opportunities for improvement to come from the region because that's a real sense of the strategic costs of a small you've seen savvy read in particular, which the us are reading, want us to see signing, to deal with america and with israel society and excited give us a solution that address as policy and concerns consistently. i think those voices pushing back against a violent ministration may be the only possible wake up call because we do know they haven't been moved by the mentoring groups. we haven't been moved by student protests to as all people domestically in the us, perhaps regional meet internationally. those play has been pushed proof lessons and i will have less than a minute left in the program. i'd like to give you'll see the last word regardless of what happens with the speech,

has nothing yahoo already won by being invited to address the u. s. congress, as we mentioned more times than any other world leader to i think so, and this will probably, this is the get the ability to save this, this invitation. that's what you want to have done that teasing in data states. and these are the context of the mental, he lost a more reasonable call to a fees each correlation. and 2 weeks ago, living government, actually the they, the united states, i'm calling this is actually telling you, my lifeline. the best thing in our inside the and i just have the chromecast, so we get to because it's going back to church. so they understand that he's an obstacle for beast. and these are the needs that spelled a li election in order to start looking in a very different way to end the war 2 to come the situation down and then to move the play into how to resolve these are the but a single country. it's won't happen often and that the and the 10 year old and no

one should say extra sewing or lifelike. mr. mckelvey, thank you so much for your time. you'll see medical book and shanda bush. i lived in washington dc and ami cody in boston, and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, i'll just say or dot com. i prefer the discussion to go to a facebook page that's facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story. you can also join the conversation on x. a handle is at a inside story for me, elizabeth put on him and the entire team here. bye for now. the a load of defense during the corruption

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