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the, the israel's prime minister set to address a joint session of the us congress next month. benjamin netanyahu, his 1st trip to washington, since he lost his devastation on gaza. his speech could have big political implications for president showed by them and as well. so what might happen, this is inside story, the
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hello and welcome to the program. i'm elizabeth put on them next month, as well as prime minister benjamin netanyahu and address the us congress. he'll make history is the only would lead it to do so for a full time underlining the extent of us. very power and influence and us politics for joe biden. it presents a tricky political challenge in the middle of a presidential campaign for nothing. yahoo, it's a challenge to turn the screws and show as wells klaus and washington america has been, israel's main supply affords devastation, one, gaza. whitehouse needs has developed as the wall progresses and the election loons closer than now who has plowed on regardless, ignoring us statements. so what will be the impact of this trip, both in the us and for nathan, yahoo and as well, we exploring all this and lots more of, i guess in a few moments. first, this report from laura con, united states and mr. diplomatic spot seems be driving
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a wedge between us on its way to lead as it comes is benjamin netanyahu is set to address a joint session of the us congress next month. nothing yahoo has already voices and about the us pulse again on the shipment of 900 kilogram booms. i said, it's inconceivable that in the past few months, it restriction has been with a whole weapons and ammunition stores of israel americans closest allies fighting for its like finding the density wrong and our other commonalities. the white house spokes person hits back those kind of some degree disappointing and certainly the vaccine to us a given the amount of the support that we have and will continue to provide a prime minister netanyahu. the news is putting funding in an awkward position. no one in washington appears to know what's next here, who will say in his speech and some award, he may use it to pressure bite and it's giving him more military aid on the news.
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or in the 2015 speech to congress walberg almost in power. he made a stinking criticism of nuclear deal for the obama administration was pursuing with a ron calling. it's a very bad deal. obama refused to beat us and yahoo then us to then vice president biden at this time. destiny, all who is likely to address be it's ray, the public showing that he's getting us support as he faces mounting public pressure from hundreds of thousands of people protesting against his handling of the rule of gaza. the u. s. provides israel with $3500000000.00 in military aid every year, including those 900 kilogram bones. given the sunsets to say they will boycott speech by the phone to it says coordinate from yahoo! a will criminal until this book, one says she'll skip it somewhere. but he has allies,
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senior republican and democratic leaders in congress, invited destiny all who to highlight to us solidarity with israel. what israel's one garza has already divided american public opinion. hundreds of thousands of people to protest sits on the streets and universities across the us to voice their anger. and now many of waiting to see if next and you know, who will use this high profile speech to advance his stated goals and garza and perhaps get even most support from the us. nor honda insight story, which is 0. well let's bring in, i guess, to the old joining us from the united states and washington dc approach. i have the most senior diplomatic correspondence at half posed in cheyenne. wyoming is you'll see medical book and associated follow with the middle east and north africa
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program at chatham pals. and then boston army community distinguished public policy fellow at the american university of babe ruth a very well and welcome to all of you. let's start with our dc inside to up a. how anxious do you think the white house's about nothing now? who was addressed to congress the hey, so it says it's a really challenging time for the white house. i mean, when now at a point where a presidential debate is looming between pressing bite and lens, his rival, donald trump, he has this to contend with just a few weeks off to us. the problem is, you have, for the lighthouse is really not even so much about the policy or even guys, or even netanyahu, it's about their own coalition. what me know about democratic float is of 75 deciding time. now, suppose israel's action from casa, we know payments, and that in, yeah, who is deeply controversial with them. at the same time we know many democrats and warming because language feel, how can we avoid caught them, yahoo, i mean this is our, our oldest allied as somebody who's going to cascade us. so there's
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a lot of anxiety at the white house. i see that's also a lot of anxiety in capitol hill with democratic politicians. one to single support depends and fighting, but they also want to be distance from this, from the department of so right. i mean, as the bus and right now who the international criminal court is potentially pursuing arrest smart support. so that also thinking about that historical legacy beyond this is that, that's a real kind of depressed which kind of tired tries is this whole moment southerbuys in ministration on the outside. and it's real problem. yeah, a lot to pick up on from what you've said, let be come to, you'll see, you know, oper was talking about the dress of the democratic policy itself and it support for israel. the republicans is not as much of address within the republican party for a support of israel. so the republicans has invited nathaniel, who yes, the democrats had to agree for nothing. yahoo to address both chambers of congress box. do you think that's what do you think that nothing yahoo is trying to do with the risk within the democrats and the support, the more unified support he has from the republicans?
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what will he do with the dynamics of the us right now? we'll see to thank you. i think it's, it's what the attorney or use is doing is actually playing both parties because the system is at the same time, it means that each consider that you consolidate the base in case that the wall doesn't tend to wave into here before the last i mean it'd be 9 months, so all for eliminating k some us then it can, you know, if he doesn't blame the, the position and these are all it doesn't. but if it doesn't blame the military, you all are the security and the organization is, and now you can blame actually the device and administrative say the overall he got the munition to weapons for while best are like close as i like the new, the one to. ready or the other hands, he enters extra which i think is a very dangerous area of, of intervening, especially due. ready in election a you because eventually election you in american politics and not as he is
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a stranger in doing so he's done it before was mentioned for in 2015, starting to do the j. c b o a agreement. so that's a time $2.11 and a few minutes might be that the starting actually to have to pay the amount of time to in the election. and the other home he's playing is playing coldness by saying, look, you know, it's, it's all, it's all american politics fault if we don't dream the war. so in the election, either you should support these are and rami. how do you see this upcoming visits by nothing? yahoo, and what do you make of, you know, everything you've heard so far using the death and you all who would use this address to criticize president biden. as we've heard, he has used, you know, a speech to the us congress to be critical of the us administration before president broccoli bonus yvonne nuclear did which joe biden, you know, skipped. you know, i will do everything that he's always done as prime minister on that. most of the
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other is really prime ministers i've done before him for decades, which is to improve his political standing, i call, and israel, and promote the lovely uh, designers does rarely propaganda themes that have successfully for a century now brought the united states as a very back close the closest, so partner of israel and the, the close of support in the united states for his, you know, as low as been the congress, the president's come and go. but the congress has consistently been very, very pro, is rarely on this practice starting to show in congress this probably 8090 a 100 members of congress who will oppose as rarely wishes may or not attend nothing. yeah. who has a speech? so this is a totally unprecedented situation in which nothing. yeah. who is known to use the totally pressure that the techniques of propaganda and political advantage,
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his mainly looking at a domestic audience in israel, in the united states. she has become very divisive, but more important than that the palestine issue has become a serious american domestic political force in the election here. okay. and we've seen the way, so this is a really, really unusual, but very dynamic situation. yeah, that's a really interesting point. you make, show me that you're projecting that nothing you all who will use precedent a method is in what is an unprecedented time off. but we have a u. s. congress that, you know, has it, can you help on international audience understand why the u. s. congress has for so many decades, overwhelmingly supported israel. and how is it increasingly out of step with what the us public wants, especially in an election? yeah, yeah, absolutely. i think, but does a historic bipartisan push,
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disappointed throughout right? on the state of the us as a relationship is a bedrock about foreign policy. that's somebody created by political pressures and elections. i mean, the doors are fact total only because come out and save us right. a pack, which is a big price for a lobby groups here in the us. but other thoughts as that's like specific, a 1000000000 that donors who could be relevant to many members of congress and increasing what we've seen in, in recently as of actually normally because who don't want to not line who come out and say we are questioning israel's policy have seen millions of dollars bumped in to try to defeat them. so this is an election as soon as also personally and philosophically important to many legislators. unimportant from a congress who is the purse strings. right? so you don't get that $3500000000.00 to israel every year that we were talking about earlier without congress approving it without congress pushing for arms sales . the reason why now in such a strange position is that the binary ministration has created. i've tried to do 2 things at once. it's tried to say we are pressuring israel on civilians and god,
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so by pressuring israel and ending the war and seize fire. at the same time, the administration has been aggressive with congress just recently. they pushed congress to release small size of shots, israel. this is something that top democrats didn't want to do. so that's a real dynamic here where the, by the ministration on top democrats in congress on together. and on the flip side, the on the spectrum follow, trump is relevant because now who's not going to come right out and say, i'm trying to help elect donald trump. but by creating this impression, that democrats don't know where they are, and as their own pa, the sites don't have anything to offer. he's also bolstering plucky meant that donald trump and republicans have said, which is maybe democrats, or just abandoning israel and jewish americans. and that could be a relevant and put in an argument that a lot of democrats are scared about coming in on the. yeah, and again, you'll see, you know, this is similar to the question before, but how much can nothing yahoo take advantage of when the democrats don't seem
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united? the republican side, not just republicans, but the far right and his own coalition. you know, does he have something to gain at home from criticizing divided administration in front of the u. s. congress? and yeah, i think that's the time you know, feels comfortable playing the state's main way. no one actually believes the many anymore. and i single, sorry to say that is, is very important because that is that it cannot do inactive states. it wants difficulties or, but doesn't change as a whole. but then you always delicious instruction automatically send it to which actual establish simply this is where it should the election. it's one to again, to ensure these are the security. but the doesn't support the way that these are conduct, the woman goes. and how you are used to say is, is, is very efficient control do like it states. and what i know that by the end of each nation doesn't do a very good job with that. from that then you know it's all about disability
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console side for her i think it's it's, it's roughly reminding, oh i'll. ready that's, that's the facing cool option. so i mean these are, and one of the reasons that you'd like to host about so desperately and phone with, from the government is because of the school and co options. i'm so sorry to play. yes, he's basing is that and then we'll take the statement and it's always very popular and he's like, if you're seeing as standing up to everyone, enemies and friends a like any think you will gain some, some points that are the same time. what is the game that he's playing? and i think this one of the danger is that t, my darling, named altogether, the closest i like to do is meet so so desperately in times of crisis. okay. you brought out the really interesting point about the senate majority and data. chuck schumer, johnny. why did chuck schumer agree to inviting nothing? yahoo! and i think may it was, he agreed to this visit, you know,
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to nothing yahoo addressing both chambers. when in march he said that nothing y'all who was an obstacle to peas. and as you'll see, said he close elections in israel. a good structure more like by done like less than. yeah. like most of these characters and the executive and legislative branches of the both government are too fast lawyers, they don't know how to keep a commitment. they only know how to act in their, in the service of their own permanent incumbency. and for this really is in the service of the total american support for israel. you know, the americans are a, the government is making some criticism from the whole the here and. busy and stuff about the. busy about the united states has been and susie aspect consistent out from cheer leading supporter of the as rarely genocide there's some extraordinary situation where the us and israel together are being taken to court of the united
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states and other places for genocide and complicity and genocide. so the us government is not an impartial actor. the us government certainly is generally, governments are one party, the american congress. there is one element in this dynamic, probably support for israel is still strong, but it's not as strong as i used to be. and this is the big story in the united states up in all the traditional foundations. busy us support, government support for israel are funding at the edges that i haven't collapse, but they're offering at the edges. public opinion students, intellectuals, media, labor unions, church groups, political parties, even members of congress are criticizing israel. so chuck schumer is showing that he is a bow, a 2 faced, typical, successful american politician who says one thing and then change it to the next month because it's more beneficial for him to change of these guys. and some
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a girl lady is becca no, no sense of consistency. the principles. they're political animals whose aim is incumbency. and we're seeing this, we'll see it played out and many, many ways in the coming what the difference is, the big difference. as i said briefly before, is the palestine issue has become for the 1st time of years of this conflict of domestic american political factor electoral political factor and nothing. yeah. who is coming to congress? there's nothing new, but people supporting palestine all over the us is, you know, we don't know how that's gonna play out. but this is a completely unprecedented situation. and they have nothing, you know, a presence is trying to take him back to his old ways where the congress of supporting of the, as rarely as the jewish people. but then they don't understand the, as rarely use the tremendous support they have from the 19th. busy this until
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a few years ago, as failing as you frame crating. um, but yeah, been able to make a and it will be really interesting to see how it plays out before the election and crucially on election day off of, you know, some of the mentions numbers that you yourself have mentioned. 64 percent of democratic lucius. think israel is committed war crimes and guys, a 56 percent believe it's commissioned genocide. that's according to the doctor for for progress. think tank of the democrats worries about what's going to happen about their support in the election campaign and on election day. what are the, what's the calculation they making at the moment? yeah, i think the problem is really interesting. was that cheerleading right. the americans being too fast and shelly revived even another was that's quite common not in washington which is enabling rec, deep level. very aware that these are us main site insights, dropping us me bombs on hospitals on children. it's a us box blockade. so that's
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a lot of concerns. some will make us a lot of people out some of the who approve these weapons sales. i'm gonna bring budgets i, i just invite us to zoom out, right. that's a real desire to personalize this and say, benjamin that me. oh, horrible man. the opposed personal obama, but for a lot of these are crowded little me cuz you have a comfortable reality that having to fees as again ronnie said, as paula side has like, risen to the floor. and it's unprecedented to be these. everybody told me because of being us. why didn't you do anything about this earlier? right? prior to october 7th might have we gotten to this place of silence all the time off by the talk which let to many is really being killed in costs just being taken. and now it's a pretty something causing policy. it means that so this is creating a broader conversation. i think, thoughts about democrats, us struggling in the them, but we have to offer a message that's not just we want the adjustments for the government. we want someone who's not benjamin netanyahu. it has to be a new c, some slot. democrats, section 5, but seeing the stuff it has to be about, how do we got to be some stability,
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right. how does the fact that we are supporting this middle eastern ally, not in time. the last in was a new me over this is not just the shadow of donald trump, it's also the shadow abroad a war which is a real concern for americans. so that's one that's the thing. economic childs as climate change. other issues, people do not want to be thinking about the risk of 11 or which is very real and make sense beyond that and yahoo to a lot of the, it's very political and military establishment. that's something congress is thinking about as well. so i think you're going to need these bigger picture on says to occupation to a possibility for it's really actions in gaza and to broader long term sustainable stability and not just how do we hold in that and you know, and so the certainly that's what the democrats are saying that they want for the actions don't seem to match what they're saying. you'll see what do the republicans want and all of this because they're the ones who extend of invitation to nothing. yeah. to yeah, and i, i can de adult plane politics in which this will because i will try to undermine
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that day by the end of ministration. ready to show that you know, it's not enough that by then s s is august said the to electric state, and name is what's happening that i know you guys that they think they can even have it. and i believe in even more what happens in, in gaza. and this thing, that's why it's sort of what we see right now. and sometimes we need to go and see if it's in the store. so the context is the neglect. so these are the values standing counseling in the united states by the installation of the community. so it was a really long time. everyone. so that was the state to scroll down a few things, things, either it's counting, both old can get any, any was and it was obvious, it's one point to another, it's wood and get to us. and the sermon was there, that evidence. and what's happened since, since since then, and so when you start to play domestic politics, whether obviously it needs to have in the middle of. ready all in the united states is never good news because the way it's continuing, instead of is a change for the ministration. in the 8 in the united states,
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you might expect that the extra hooks from nathaniel complains about enough enough immunization dr. i'm sorry. which by the way, the administration would be nice, it's one of actually being if it's covered being rectified. so the situation is getting benches. yes. and then guys are in the west bank. we don't pay enough attention. what's happening in the west bank because balance there is getting reservation is moving, drenched, and then then, then as a circular violence which we make it was the we say a government because he's already government and security folks. this complaisant contains, at that time, the situation lebanon, and the both of the is, is on the venture for foods cable. from me, you also mentioned the international community, the, at how does to us congress. is it aware of what it looks like to the world to invite a man for whom the international criminal court is seeking a rest one. so we'll crimes for crimes against humanity. the leader of a country who the international court of justice is investigating for genocide or
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yeah, the answer is that is lovely of the united states congress, especially the republicans have no idea about what's going on in the world. and especially what's going on, at least as i said, the type of politicians, they just want to stay in power and exercise the, the benefits of power, the higher the tremendous higher make the tragic and cool army of all this is that both the american and the israeli strategies and guys a field and then loving a failed. and i'm, i'm secondary. blinking was a cartoon like character who pops up every saturday morning, making another trip to them, at least, to try to create enhancing around me on a coalition, which they've been trying to do something. alexander haig was a foreign secretary many decades ago. these temperatures have no idea about how to deal effectively with the power forces and the human sentiments of the people are
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least they only understand the use of force. and they only understand the use of sanctions and compelling people to follow their imperial lead. but the strategies are failing. the us of israel have a terrible time the literally is and in the world other than being and banded them, taking the cord and all that. they're wildly isolated in a new one village, another for a, and they have very, very little respect and they're losing their respect within the united states and within israel as well. so this is an extraordinarily important historical moment. certainly the most pivotal moment in my career and i've been doing this for 55 years now. since 1968 i started being involved in the least issues of publicly when i was a google course of the the us. and this is the most dramatic moment that signals serious change. a structural change within the us, within israel,
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them at least and within the country. so if you look at his beloved, come out of some sort, a lot of others. what doing the governments are all, you know, they're taking vacation somewhere in southern france, probably who knows what they're doing, but they're not doing very much at all. and the, as really a government, as strategy is not working, the american government strategy is not work. so the faithful a freefall and certainly some would argue a complete failure of the international community with the one god. so very much continuing and it's 9th month i could use see this trip having an impact on the wars old i think that's a real whole from the, by the ministration, but they can have this impact. but it boils odds of puts some of us leverage, right? the sheet is already decision making and won't be seen consistently from the administration . is really more rhetoric, a toyota, rav of them, any kind of real pressure on benjamin netanyahu. and i'm speech in so many ways,
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it's a combination of the right, these really leadership feels not just entitle to attract americans support on the comfortable american sport consistently. it feels beacon come to your capital. i'm not sure you and that's the moment we're right though. i think the biggest sort of opportunities for improvement to come from the region because that's a real sense of the strategic cost. so this one you've seen inside the radio in particular, which the us are reading, want us to see signing this deal with america. and with israel society and excited give us a solution that addresses policy and concerns consistently. i think those voices pushing back against the violent ministration may be the only possible wake up point. because we do know they haven't been moved by the mentoring groups. we haven't been moved by student protests to as all people domestically in the us. oh, so perhaps regional meet internationally. those play has been pushed. fruitful washington will have less than a minute left in the program that like to give, you'll see the loss would regardless of what happens with the speech, has nothing you all who already won by being invited to address the u. s. congress,
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as we mentioned more times than any other world leader to i think so, and this will probably, this is we get to the, to you to see if this, this invitation. that's what you want to have done that teasing in data states. and these are the context of the moment, so they lost a more reasonable call to face east coordination. and 2 weeks ago, living government actually the they, the united states, i'm calling, this is actually telling you my lifelines investing in the are inside the. and i just have the congress who regret to. because if you haven't gotten back to church or they understand that he's an obstacle for beast, and these are the needs desperately the election in order to start floating in a very different way to end the war, to, to come to the situation down. and then to move the play into how to resolve these already, but a single country, it's won't happen after that. the and the 10 year old and no one should say,
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actually sewing or lives like. mr. mckelvey. thank you so much for your time. you'll see medical book and shand, unfortunately documents in washington, dc and ami cody in boston. and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, i'll just say or dot com. i prefer the discussion to go to our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story. you can also join the conversation on x. a handle is at a inside story for me, elizabeth put on him and the entire team here. bye for now. the a hard hitting intervenes is israel and obstacles piece. i think that the new thing, the f one of these governments with these says 5 digit, you say getting russell, a thought provoking on the e. you made weapons being used in guns. no guns should be used in an offensive way
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