change the way the days this, the global issue is abstract, so whatever i do, it doesn't seem to make a dent. alley re reveals how, with the internet connected into distancing also from the climate crisis, and delaying meaningful action outside the logical reactions has been both intentionally and unintentionally, quite a few ideas to create confusions. if we're confused with the power of psychology is looking climate action on l g 0. the u. k is set to vote in a general election this week called by prime minister wishes to knock who's conservative party has been in power for 14 years. polls suggest as rival labor leader care summer could replace them. so what are the issues and how significant is this election? this is inside story, the

hello and welcome to the program. i'm getting you navigate to the okay goes to the poles on thursday, july, 4th, and unexpectedly early day chosen by the conservative private party. prime minister wishes to knock his rival, the labor party has not want a general election since 2005. and that's part of the problem for us who knocked inheriting a party. afflicted with seemingly endless turmoil and in fighting poll suggests that the labor leader, care storm or his party could wind power promising to make sweeping changes. but other se, if he wins, it will be because there is no other option. stormers failure to demand an early cease fire in gaza and support for israel have also alienated some of his party faithful. so what are the main issues for british voters and what impact will have for the nation abroad will bring in our guests in a moment? first, this reports from and will consume sharif from mr richie. so not call the

surprised election in may hoping to capitalize on the brief economics recovery under his leadership. it's been a difficult campaign officer. difficult stuff as soon as he's come, the entire political establishment announcing a july election. these on certain times. cool for a clear plan. unfold auction to charles nicole's to a secure the man who hopes to replace and is labeled policy need a key as thomas only have to do both correct at this time for change. he's hoping that dissatisfaction to the concept is, as well as both his own policies, will make him the 1st label prime minister in 40 years. the book takes place as the u. k. bottles, economics, type nation high fuel costs linked to a housing and cost of living, crisis, folding public services and

a serious lack of faith in the government. opinion polls suggest a possible landslide victory says thomas polity, but much will depend on turn out despite but change is for you of the power of the boat for songs to you. as you can use it to stop the payoff to turn the page on, stop to rebuild all country immigration has become sent to issue in british politics. so next taken a hard line when an office including tom's to depold assign them seat goes to rhonda to use opted was announced, the scheme remains grounded by legal and political challenges. but sooner cope's, it will still be a vote rena. across you are the penny is dropping. that off is the right to price. but it's labor to come. the next government. they'll screw up the rolanda ski and an act a de facto. i'm the state for asylum seekers, making us

a magnet every illegal immigrant in europe in every way labor would make our country less secure. huge protests have been seen in london against this transfer on file. so the issue could have an impact, particularly among young voters. and in constituencies labels seen as to sympathetic or supportive of his while. now on the other side of the political spectrum, reps, it campaign a and the trump supposed to now should for raj is making his 8th attempt to become a member of parliament. full suggest is wide things. reform u. k. policy could take away books from the conservatives, but he's facing attacks from both sides, from allegations of races, candidates to accusations of policies aligning the function, preston, loud them. you put him on his 10 on the ukraine bowl. and oh,

the conflict has caused big problems. issues to neck. is it possible before the end of the day commemorations and phones was widely criticized while his flight boots tama tate unto the end, who would be standing at the end of the election. they'd be known of to the 4th of july, and of course i'm sure if i'll just see the inside story. okay. the ok, let's not bringing our guys to any us from london as will hutton, who is a political economist columnist and president of the u. k. 's academy of social sciences and on the scotland, leslie rudolph, a pod cast or a journalist, and also the author of blossom what scotland needs to flourish. joining us from new york is pablo honda, who's a senior political advisor who is advising that you west democratic party and has previously done the same for you. okay. parties. i'm leaders. thank you so much for your time with us on inside story will hot and if i may start with you over in london, we after 14 years of conservative rule, is there

a real hunger for change though? very much say, i mean i think we and very few people open to open, acknowledge that conservative supporters and i'm a business and finance declaring that support for the labor which is excess finishing this morning. the sunday times has a right evening paper came out in favor of the labor party. the pulse reflect beside the a of the country feels profoundly mis governed, tied to the ethical lapses as much as the cost of living crisis. and the sense that whether it's failing investments, squeeze public service is britain standing in the well. and so every dial on the, on the dashboard, it's got an amd roll, read this and was not a huge and to use yes or has besides the secure uh, uh,

there's essentially to say better hands and really it is time for change. and the conservative, i think, is a long time in a position to reflect on political part together. again, it's become a federation, really of a right wing cost and also main street political party. okay, and lots of important points you raise. they are well which will drill down to throughout the program. leslie if i come over to you we're, we're just what was mentioned in the polls a moment ago. so one poll that i saw has labor leading to conservatives, by about 20 percent to 20 points, excuse me. and according to the economist, it's called the upcoming election to wipe out for the tories. i mean, if this latest pulling data is correct, then the election will give the ruling. conservative party is biggest loss in more than a century. apparently. do you think that the odds are going to hold, or will there be some sort of twist on election day? what's your projection? i think the results aren't going to hold it. we say resist, do not try. just about every 2nd of those of us who are following the election. see

a different turn, the different angle, a different line almost every 4 days. just in case you're interested at the latest one today is apparently press settings. our bet will feel as a better country today, 2024. that it was in 2010, which was after a period of labor government the, i don't think you could find a single person anywhere that agrees with us. so some days it's the, the, the war on, on the legal crossings and the small boats some days, bits that labor will simply prove unreliable, will lose and waste your money. and some days it's that there's a feel good factor that basically nobody feels a button. so i can't see anything but the tories are our monitoring to hold on to that would make any kind of dent and the lead, the nice seems so predictable, this danger for labor is that everyone starts on the when adult turner's, pablo as a, as a former campaign advisor to u. k. political parties, in your opinion,

how much can you pin this appear and shift on the currently leadership of prime minister risk has to be like himself or is it sort of the collective failure of the conservative party and it's many years in power and it's many prime ministers that have that have been through the past 14 years as well. there's definitely an element. the paperless of have had enough of tori rule and i think is the se 14. yes, this is quite a lot if that's not the policy one. but the, the prime minister, and i'm actually the people around him have really not made this easy. this campaign has been dominated by tori gas that started as, as he started in the practice that with him being or a, you know, making us announcement in the pouring rain. but then it just went from gas to gas to gas. it was done book a, it was the due date, as i said, it really has not been a good campaign. the nice thing it has just about as has gone from, from about to west to him and i barring a size and make kind of demick level, you know, event between how in the past day,

i don't see any way much. they can pull the spark. well, you seem to insinuate a moment ago that this voters are not really feeling and few is ya stick about a future labor governments. correct me if i'm wrong here and they're just kind of determined to bring about an end to a tory rule. is that how you see it? well, i mean, that's what the po share. i mean if i try to get down to windows of his popularity will be in a level that david cameron's from his friend, 201020 baptist or 97. and i say, and it's been, it's been a, it's been a safety 1st campaign is being can be as minimal as, as possible. me to in general terms, right. change. so people haven't had the opportunity to either get really angry with them or i'm really excited to get with them. but i think that and his popular harder was describing has deep roots. it's not just, you know, that they, yeah. campaign stuff. uh, a kind of a, but it's,

the policy itself is not aligned about what it wants to do, just really have an appetite, the whole power, i think, i mean, is too many agendas bank to see that. and, and that, that i've seen like himself, has been a lowest common denominator. prime minister, he's always cod triangulating between his extreme right and his mainstream center. and it's really no no words. and he's the refresh found the good doing hearing. so in that sense, you know, i mean the country feels in summers say, he's safe, but he's decent is decent. they think that is going to really stay, but i suspect it will be, it'll be a big majority probably. and they think that so things he's trying to do make sense . let me ask you this. how is the labor party manage to capitalize on the different chance? invent with the conservatives and also from what you've seen, which labor policies have actually connected with the british public as well,

was saying it really is at the moment, almost everyone, but the conservatives cannot see the long list of a failure that there's been every different flavor you could have of conservatism has been tried and failed. the biggest one that people remember recently really was less trusty, was prime minister for a very short period put through a bunch of that phrase at the market so much. it wasn't funded properly that it sent a people's mortgages. it right through the roof. i'm not still the case. i think that was probably the last straw for a lot of conservative voters because the feeling that the conservatives were safe with your money left, that was the end. and that probably is not impossible to change. so in a sense, labor have really picked up by just not being the conservatives in power, making all those mistakes. i've got to say again picking up some things well was talking to buyers. and some of the problems for breton are really deep seated and not being brought up by either of the big parties. so for example, we lost lots of money loads to trade and loads of jobs through breakfasts. and

although the majority of british voters noted that breaks it, there's not a single main stream political party that wants to pick up. but i'm make about to an issue at the selection except i'm speaking from scotland and i should say, i'm an independent support or just to be clear. but the s and p have big really pushing that they're the only ones. there's also just the other big issue is privatization that was brought in 40 years ago by margaret satcher. now no one's talking about that. the loved dams, of talking about the state of, of water and rivers in england. in scotland, rivers and water was kept in public cons, but water was privatized in england. one of the very few countries on our site actually to have done that. and how is that going to be solved? because, you know, having a tough or a cold bookman, having more regulations, more investment, that's fine. but still

a crumbling system. we're not getting to those really core issues in this campaign . more more is the touch a well look. i mean, lovely. speaking of the core issues, one of the, the boat is taking place, obviously in a period of as we know, economic turmoil. so is that the main issue for voters? do you think it is? the question would be in a sense, what's the solution? who's to blame? so again, in the scottish national party who have been the government, the devolved government in scotland not for 17 years. their stance is quite different really. from the tories labor they want, they have in scotland. we have higher taxes on, on those who earn more than that, they want less will start to because basically the poor spend their money. so if you want growth, it's hard to see how that happens. if you come down on people on lower wages. so those kind of issues have been playing here at the same time. lots of people in

scotland like myself, i voted labor nearly all my life until it became possible to have a different outcome and the dependent scotland. now the big question, scotland is whether people think, let's just put all our money on the labor to just get rid of a conservatives. it's not clear how it will go here, right, okay, a problem. let me bring you in because this is according opposite to secure, according to the organization for economic cooperation and development. it is saying that the u. k. will have the lowest growth rate in the g 7 in the year 2025 . to what extent do you think is that a reflection of the conservative policies, i think, is a reflection of concession policy, but it's been exacerbated of cost by brackson and as the as the last week. it was the same there in scotland, that there is this kind of like a conspiracy of silence around this huge elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about breaks that is destroying our economy. but not only our economy is destroy the country and novice of sense of time to who we are and you know, breaks at the moment and most tray is costing us the 1000000 pounds every single

hour. and it makes me laugh, but we're in the middle of this election campaign where you know, everyone salts throw statistics and accusations all over the place and you've got labor claiming that's where the policies cost. 37000000000 boy is coming. labor policies cost a similar kind of, you know, $40000000000.00 on the thing. meanwhile, of independent economists impossible on the list that concluded that breaks is costing us a 100000000000 pounds. every single. yeah, nobody's talking about that. yes, but let them so told my going back into a single icon as absolutely a logical 1st step. but generally, no one's talking about this nor my stomachs to our economy, but just costing local people like the average family is thousands of pounds with soft po yet because of the business, the all right, mistakes that be made. right? and people are recognized not as cost, and the polls are shifting and someone's about that. none of the policies, not seriously. i talking about this. absolutely phenomenal mistake. okay, well,

how do you explain to silence surrounding breakfast, breaks it? and also um, if there was a labor government to empower what sort of stance do you think they'll take when it comes to breaks it and relations with the, with the assignments of rex is not in the total side. disadvantages. i mean, fibers mentioned at the live dentist are in favor of rejoining the single market beyond that you can use and eventually, and as, as he was saying, yes. and people taking that stuff to, i'm sure, when the labors elected, etc. that said, that was not a more positive about the open union. indeed, i was talking to a, a, a see a member of the team labor team and, and just the last few hours saying, you know, once this is, well, once we go through we will have a good change. but the thing is that the moment they want the conversation to be level of the conversation to be about 14 years they want to to about a conservative faded over 14 years actually is a, in their mind you correctly josh. they say raise breakfast. then the conversation

becomes about that, and it's a very, very, very, very divisive subject to britain. so i'm expecting that able to turn the corner. uh, i will be talking about a big uh, defense punch on the to start off i think, and the negotiations will begin about last in january. i think nobody discussions about the environmental collaboration, discussions about improving the trade incorporation agreement. so i'm looking for how much will pay you to pay and stuff so like when they get out to what about, well, the issue of immigration because i mean the both major parties of the, the have made that issue of immigration central to their campaign. both parties promising to got migration levels, but how different is a labor party to the tories when it comes to immigration? it's, it's, it's an issue of hi site. it is. and if nigel for eyes becomes electricity as a joins in the house of commons with 2 or 3 other members of things, reform,

policy, and we'll get it probably a high percentage of the live demons. but 5 of your seats. and you say you want 5 that, well, that is, it will be here. we talking to immigration in the house of commons. i it is it they will, they will get through with the funds to rewind the famous fights through. and they were getting through with that and they will sits on the border control units and they will attempt, i suspect that we some continuity with some of the, of a tory policies. they will take a more relaxed approach on the students coming to the country with that 500 is because it's samples university finance is that that happens, but it's going to remain, it is getting that stuff is going to be a to keep the conversation down the temperature,

keep the temperature down then to confirm a treat. nancy ever been language, and you can try and use um, internationally, agreements, right? to get set to customize those. that's going to be the stats. okay. another top uh issue of course is the war on guys. i leslie, what does the election mean for the you case for a policy? let's talk about that as a 1st and then i'll ask you about ukraine. well, you, you've talked and sat and i'll just see what is covered. they demonstrations everything in london. they've been all over scotland as well, and it was the s and p who brown with this earliest, whose leader he had to resign over a domestic problem here. but holmes, a use of who i think was the 1st muslim leader in europe. he a national leader, he was very strong on immediately saying as soon as the, the, the atrocity in israel half and followed by the attacks on gaza. he was the 1st to

say that had to be as a spar and fox his in laws as his wife's mother and father were trapped and gas or for the past 6 weeks. so that became a big issue in scotland for people not starts with the border. there is a slight standing in certain constituencies against labor because labor conspicuously failed to endorse cold for us. they start early and clearly some of the things set up to say back here, storm or, and david's law, me the, for an sec potential for and secretary and the labor government which seem to be sort of weighing out further is acceptable to bomb a refugee comp or to withhold water. so i think that this could be stimulated for a long time. you think that this could cost the labor party votes and it will cost the labor party votes, whether it's enough to actually change it looks as if as surveys the labor party have done suggested in length and particularly there isn't going to be a big enough impact on their light too much obviously is to damage them, but i think it's still creates a lock of the thursday. awesome. and those communities for change,

government. okay. pablo, i know you speak to us from new york, but obviously we're seeing these huge protests in london over the gauze of war. and what are the options for britons who support a free palestine and the enter the guys a war who feel that neither labor nor the conservatives were present their views? and yeah, i think it's a really tricky one. and, and it is true that labor aren't losing some supports and as opposed to me, i'm not sure it's going to make a ton of difference. and we start seeing this bull and both in politics on outside about those all the say it'd be nice. yeah. and there was a lot of controversy surrounding as well being involved in your vision. and there was an expect it to be a big kind of, you know, protests and that being tickets will be down and actually being picked up and as well did pretty well in the, in the voting for the public. so i think that there is, there is going to be an impact. i don't think it's going to be survey, i think both as he was feeling as though late and even labor. know the concept to support them. may look to smallpox, you know, course we did have a bi election, an area in the u. k. y, and george galloway on his policy that the work of policy,

basically ronald laptops, platform and did very well. they will not bi election. there's kind of mix polling at the moment about what the hell hole about seeing the gun reaction. of course, bi election is a very, you know, what can be very so singular issues and people run on a, on a very specific platform and they can get elected that way on a low turn out and things like that. whether that transpires in a generation remains to be seen as the say pulling was a little bit all over the place. i'm not fighting with people who feel like they don't have a home in either labor on the concepts of an issue. this issue may look to the other parties, place that they've done some advice that, that they want to cease by a. but i think ultimately some honest, despite how people really feel election as of to come back to how it is impacting them in this moment. in that pocket on that fine on says right thing was that will be a little protest about hearing that. honestly, if i'm, if i'm truth about that, i think people will go back to voting on the issues that most of them right now and

not okay. but let me ask you, let me, i will let me ask, will this on the issue of ukraine? i mean, all the major amount of fest, those of the party is called for continue with support for ukraine. so what do you think the selections means for the new case policy? i mean, we're going to see a deepening of support in cooperation for you. chris, as of yeah, that's actually, i mean the, the british government of the tooth body has been, as you know, very strongly pro crane. i'm sure that will continue with your stomach. you should also, you, you should also know that actually the amount of faster cool. so the recognition of palestinian state, which is quite a big deal for the labor part for the labor party, actually to get that fall off of it. so let's talk about a 2 state solution in the past. it nice to hear about recognizing a palestinian state, and i don't think this opinion in britain has moved no doubt in the last 6 months. it started off by the you know, the very pro. no, well understanding of the horror of how much the tax and disproportionate nature of

the response increased, the scene is disproportionate by these res has led to the mainstream opinion is, is leading into the palestinian cause more than i can remember any time my adult life is a commentator, so that, that, and that's reflected i think in the, in the they were funny manifesto on, on, on israel, on you, on the train, i think is providing, uh, uh, these elections and trucks are going to be important. it says, concerned that the french is going to be kind of less than solid in a joint european response to it. and pretend that britain is going to kind of even more important that i mean, this coalition that has been up until now. and it shows, in germany is, isn't, are, and what are the position of britain is emerging as in assess, you know, the storage and in europe for the training and cause that's going to continue. that

is going to continue and the deep, deep and i think got the star. okay. uh, lovely final word to you. i mean, just sort of big picture here. how critical you think the selection is for the tories, and is there going to be a wipe out as well? it looks like there will be a wide tires. um there will be a lawn slide. it's really quite difficult to see what labor will actually do with that to weather as well, suggests they will then begin to move into the areas that they thought to electrically sensitive to open up during the selection bike for exit. like some of that thought. your legacy at public services here really in a very bad stage. and maybe that's the lack of enthusiasm. this is not like 1997 when tony blair was about to when there's none of thoughts, sense of, of dissipation or excitement. maybe not students care storm are, these are not kind of follow tile exciting days. they're really quite serious. but yeah, there has to be hope other has to be some kind of hope that we're not just going to

get a dusted done version of what's failed for 14 years. with the conservatives, just with a labor was asked on. alright, we'll have to leave it there on that. no, thank you so much for joining us. thanks to all our guests. will hutton leslie right. read off on pablo. honda, thanks for joining us. thank you for watching. you can see the program again, any time by visiting our website. i was a 0 adult comment for further discussion. you can go to our facebook page, facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story. so in the conversation on x or handle is adrian side story from myself and the whole team here in delphi. thanks for watching. and bye bye. for now . the name is brandon jackson. i'm a 3 point louisiana. i've recently been released at all web to $25.00 and a half years,

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