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basin of the militarization of the police over the past 100 years connect with our community and tap into conversations you will find elsewhere. folks in the region, government and other companies are stealing indigenous land. the stream on out to 0, the higher can read through the carrier being causing devastation, but allow me to, i'm on climate sorry. it is the fastest and earliest ever atlantic storm a direct result of global warming x. but say, why is this storm closing so much concerned? this is inside store the other very welcome to the program on the clock. a storm like no other. that's how her can barrel is being described. does it boxes the current being, it's left,
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the devastation in destruction in this way can more is expected warnings about climate change in global warming? all reported daily and media right around the world. but this storms, timing, it's speed and it's intensity, is causing concern among scientists globally. we'll find out more about space, the local, and the wider impact of american barrel later in the program with, i guess i will take a closer look at the science behind this particular storm without seeing image urologist wrote mccully. first, let's have this report from mickelson. sure. how the king bed room is breaking records as a test to the caribbean. it made land phone on for now does kind of go on and on monday. so happening about 90 percent of homes is the strongest storm to hit the southeast and creeping into decades to see this level of disruption. it is almost, i'm gonna give you a like it almost toto damage or destruction of all buildings with any public
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buildings, homes or the private facilities. there is almost complete disruption. off the electrical grid system in the entire communication system is completely destroyed. some people who lost a homes on union island, a tiny crop and descend vinson and confirmed the deeds occupied a go, arrived in the jamaican capital with tales of what it was like in the middle of the stone. i saw right in uh in my tight area because the topic. yeah. it was a hot for all was brought to the account. uh movies. we just have a lot of different solutions that is or you know, like if it isn't on this, on tuesday, every week into a category full stone would remain destructive across the region from the dominican republic. to ken coon and mexico, people rushed to stoke up and take shelter and venezuela. the stone brought heavy
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rains to the northern state of sioux cree under the bust. it's bang trickling plumps separately. people have died of being reported missing. or to me, gus, off at the bottom, there are $8000.00 houses with various levels of damage. we've already responded with this and civil protection teams are working with the army to document the damage on they told me at least 400 houses are completely lost. that really is the 1st time it came of the actual and took season, and the earliest on home record to be classified as the maximum catch would be 5, the national weather service planes up trying to gather data to understand more about barrels intensity and structure. so in to side, mind me, climate change for the storms, rapid strengthening, and the warnings of an extra or movie season, the head will consume sherry, i'll just see the inside story. so what is the science behind this stallman what
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might just happen next to explain, has, i've seen and meter ologist from mccully to barrow is a note with a major hurricane you over there. this, this much, that from the point of view of what it looks like from space is huge, it goes from the coast, if it is way to right to be on by now since since and lose here, both of which find the effects quite unpleasant, but the devastation was near the eye. it's a beautiful lie near grenada now in september. we think this is a major hurricane happens every 120 years or so. and not surprising, but it's july and there's the worry. it's a unique storm. it phoned in june became in 24 as a category for american. that's what happened there. so that's the earliest category. 5 in july with winds when an excess of 250 calories probably should have that categorized. it's the wins just around the inside of the on the strongest. when they're in the category 6. so category 5, just go up and up as, as stones get with us. now,
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barrels of course is fits like every tropical storm by the rooms off the surface water as it is warmer and the lines are going to kind of be in by 2 or 3 degrees above for long to navigate. this isn't going to change, might even get worse, might get warm and still, so you're sitting more energy for every storm that forms hence, barrel early on to major, and that will still getting, bouncing through the car, being, which is warmer than normal pos jamaica is still is a category for still slowly losing energy as it goes further west, submissively. but what does this say for off season? well, in fact, the season was already full cost to be rather with to know what codes have up to $25.00 main storms. what about the average? maybe 7 major hurricanes. that's the category 3 or above the average of 3. we've had one already on the drive as ours. you know the warmer was, which is avery web. it's certainly in the hurricane pounds. i'm letting me in here, which is the pendulum swing almost the opposite of el nino. it just adds more input to. so the conditions are right for
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a very nasty season and you see how it started. all right, let's take this so we can bring in. i guess none, orlando, in florida, it's daniel guilford. he's let me draw just an office for scientists to focus is on how climate change effects harkins heats and local communities for mary a. p a is in bridgetown in barbados, which is just being batted indeed by heart and barrow. and she's the caribbean delegation spokes person for the international federation of the red cross and red crescent societies. and take the technical lead on evolving crises and dissolve those. and you have sonya is in manila, he's the southeast asia executive director green pacing. a former client negotiator for the philippines. government will welcome to own of you. let's go straight to the region festival red ram area. yeah. you all to pulling red cross personnel to get in and try and help with this catastrophic situation. well, it's all your eye witnesses saying about the severity of this hurricane?
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you so good morning. good afternoon. i'm good evening to or you'll view us. i'm re se and bobby this bridgestone and i rather the so what's the bob medium population on this sunday into monday morning in bridgestone and bobby to the deposition on the south coast in particular was immense. i mean, over 200 and drive to fishing vessels have been destroyed on 20 both phone. there was major damage to the ports of bridgestone. and then we also had damage to the fisheries industry. but even that synopsis pills in comparison to what we're seeing and greeting you to we have red cross staff and volunteer station in benita. and i mean to live through that. it's the job is based on is immense. as you saw earlier on any program target who has been completely do math, you said 98 percent of an island is gone. the communications on carrier costs. so
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down, people are still trying to make contact with their friends and their families. every building has not gone on touched. i mean, that's just to we have it's countries that are in the past the barrel. i mean it's, it's amazing to think about the, the structure, langley that was the sun and you know, and i live in st. vincent on the granite begins, the communications are still down, the airport has been law schools, churches, the main hospital, all destroyed. and it's is keeping going as we speak, the hurricane barrow would be impacting jamica. and the point is right, uh, we must absolutely emphasize here. is that just how early this is come in the season, and what is it to be a very severe harcum season? i mean, it's july. the main part of the hurricane season, typically in the caribbean, is around september into november,
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maybe the beginning of october. that's quite so easily. we have, we have mobile, phillip follow to if we really take a look at the forecast. and we have to think about what these constant impacts on the region having. it's the 1st still of the season and it has gone through 8 countries, the projected to go through each country sofa. is this really what we need to expect for the next few months in the region? okay, well that's also that question now to daniel guilford. i know you grew up on the floor of the coast. i understand not so far from the carpet in the gruff observing a big stones, barreling in, at, as a climate scientist. now you also have deep knowledge of the climate systems. now we have as read was just saying the are these kinds of re 5. how can ever, how surprised all you at this and how concerned all you full the season? the head? yeah, well hurricanes are kind of like giant sheet engines. they take energy from the ocean on the surface, kind of like what rob mentioned earlier,
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and they converted into is and they take it as fuel converted into wind speed. and so what we're seeing out there in the atlantic right now are very warm sea surface temperatures. unseasonably warm. as you mentioned earlier, these conditions are kind of like what you would expect in september. and so these hurt this hurricane barrow that is moving through is releasing conditions that are unlike anything we've ever seen before. is unprecedented. total on the storm is having unprecedented impacts and we are quite concerned, you know, it is only just a lie and we're seeing september like impacts. and so what does this mean for the rest of the season? certainly the sea surface temperatures out there are remaining warm as long as african ways the sort of disturbances in the atmosphere keep rolling off the african coast. we were, you going to have those warm waters and there's plenty of fuel available for these storms to sort of develop and then begin to grow. and so we are certainly concerned that in line with many of the predictions out of the national oceanic and
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atmospheric administration and other other groups that have made predictions about the season that it will be an extremely active one. and that this is probably the end of the 2024 hurricane season. it's actually just the beginning. so we are concerned about what these impacts are. and we just are very cognizant that if you're along one of the coast lines in the caribbean or the golf or the even the eastern seaboard united states. and this is going to be a time where you need to pay careful attention to what's happening in the tropics. done to just just take this on a little bit further. you say that the booming ocean is a driver of this, of these hurricanes. why is it the warm ration temperatures, fuel harkins and big storms, and so i couldn't oh yeah, that's a wonderful question. so a hurricane is almost like the engine in your car. as you push down the accelerator fuel comes into your engine and starts and make it turn into and speed up and, and in a hurricane is very similar in making some sort of fuel source and on our planet
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that fuel source is the warm ocean temperatures. we see we're seeing more motion temperatures that are quite a bit warmer than we would've seen this time of year in, in past years. that there's something like 2 degrees celsius warmer and this can have big impacts and these hurricane because you add more fuel to them. they can spend faster and faster, they have that opportunity to grow into. the real monster is like the hurricane barrel that we're seeing right now. and so that fuel source is sticking around. those warm ocean temperatures aren't going anywhere to season. and so we expect these hurricanes as they begin to develop ins area. they can see that fuel source, they can take advantage of it, take that tensile energy that is stored in the ocean, and converting to kinetic energy in the form of wins that can really provide a lot of the damages that we're seeing right now. it's in, in, in the region, and so as we think about what's going to be happening going forward, a lot of this heat, as rob mentioned, is here to stay. government change has sort of attract more energy in the earth in
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your atmosphere. that energy eventually gets down into the ocean surface, which then provides a lot of work for these storms. be able to fuel up with. uh, so this is something that is a major concern for only. i mean it's got interviews with human, sorry to jump to, you know, it's not going to be the thing. it work. it's climate change as being fuel by fossil fuel emissions. great, inclined to kind of blanket around the yep. sonya so what's being experienced in the car being now is experienced appearance right around the world. very familiar seeing of course in the philippines where you uh, what are your thoughts about what we're seeing in the car being in the context of the west and the effects of climate change? especially in the philippines. yes. just watching the news coverage and listening. 3, all right, now it's certainly recommended send by the series. so i'd say things paula says, we have seen for the past many years and certainly the one to keep my home found in the monthly fee support by when i on and 2013 and support by fund or i just 3 years
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ago, which indicates for us you know, most of these 5 boys have become more disruptive and caring so much in 1050 meant it aligns with one of the intergovernmental panel. busy on climate change, just saying around the more frequency of block, i think i'll repeat the 5 tropical storms and that's very worrying. and i can only imagine the suffering that's happening in the caribbean right now. i've seen it with my own eyes here where we live and, and i can only really sympathize and, and, and pray for the best for those who are still struggling to. ready pick up the pieces and, and racing against time to save lines and homes to 3. what are the global discussions around climate change in relation to harkins like this? a of the voices of those countries like those in the car, been deed in the philippines of the pacific. and those countries in the,
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in the costs has of climate crises like these. all those voices being heard. i think situation like this for us caribbean voice has to be heard. how many more bags are we going to have to live through? we haven't gone through hurricane maria on a month and 2017 behind hurricane dory and in 2019. no way here again. with hurricane barrels as the strong this hurricane to hit the region in 20 is this early on. it forces the conversation. we are at the forefront of the crime with crisis, but no longer because of the crime with crisis, we are living and breathing is experiencing it. every single the, our lives on livelihoods are being impacted. i mean, how do we quantity 5 so be to how much that we've seen. how do we quantify 98 percent of an island being destroyed and it's not only one, it's more than one. we've seen it and carrier who is seeing it. and st. vincent that impacts in bobbie the in saint lucia in jamaica and dominic in trinidad and
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tobago. the list goes on. how long does the list have to grew? before we take action before we release, taught to listen to, to the voices of people who act before friends of this kind with crisis, we need to have more spaces. so our voice will still be empty. fighting on voices to be heard, because how long are we expected to suffer the consequences of the crime with crisis when we, when he come to be less than 10 percent? to global copland emissions? yeah, i give it to you what, what are your thoughts? so one of the biggest challenges we face in terms of finds the last things i believe most of the final price is if obviously some of the fossil fuel industry sense of the 4 of these prices. and the slowness by which
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international, the international community and nations, big, serious, i'm vicious options for this price and swap. we're seeing right now are examples of what we've been paying it to happen in the future. if we don't do not apps urgently on despite this and, and what we have seen, those are very difficult in this international negotiations is, is of course, the best. but the answer is that lie behind that. this is big issue. i would also want to mention that the tricky part about storms when we talk about define advisors, if it's only been a more reason that the, the scientific community has made a very category call. the climate change is driving mines in pens, farms, and then they can be just be the be the reason. so that's why the science of pac abuse on being able to push the political boundaries around by with option has not
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been seen in recent times. and, and then i think all of this extra assignments, extremes that are happening along with the world right now. and i just farms levels when he waves should compel leaders to pick captions. daniel, the thing is that you say you have always kindly screams going on like the hurricane barrow bits. meanwhile, develop nations continued to subsidize fossil fuels to the june of trillions of dollars. yeah, there's no real incentive for big oil and big gas to ease production. but if we continue to wilma planets in the way that we are doing, what does that mean for these weather events that are already reaching experience a yeah, at the climate system is going to respond in turn. right. and the more fossil fuels will mean that the temperature of the plant and it will continue to rise. and as the temperature of the planet rises, these impacts like proceeding stream heat, hurricanes like hurricane barrel, which is being impacted already right now by climate change will continue to be
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impacted by many changes here. right now there's and impacting us uh, in real ways real lives are being affected by the storms. so it is critical that we come together and work toward solutions to, to sort of solve the, the, the climate change problem that we are all collectively in the world, dealing with it. and these things are expected to not change. we're going to have this heat with us for a long time. so in addition to mitigating our impacts, we're also going to add to that and change the way we live our lives to protect ourselves from the worst of impacts. so it's really important, we continue to have conversations with anyone and everyone who lives in that climate changes here. it's happening and we need to do everything we can to reduce that's and we've done. we've been having those conversations for your 20 years and more going back in time and an action is not happening fast enough. that's right. we need to make it immediate changes right now. and one of the
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challenges i think is sometimes the climate change can be a little abstract. it's far away. maybe it's in somewhere else, but climate change we can see through hurricane barrel, the extreme heat way is the spring flooding we've been seeing around the world. it is happening right now. it's no longer an abstract thing. as we just mentioned, we now have the science to point to particular events and say this was made worse by climate change. or this intense event was made more likely because of climate change. the science supports that, and so what we need to really be doing is making, having our policy support solutions towards reducing our climate emissions and the climate impacts hopefully going forward. we're looking at pitches just a 2nd to go over the pass agreement at crossing the line. back in 2015, which is almost 10 years ago, where there's been a ross of elections across the world this year. yet the climate crisis has hardly been on the agenda, not of the u. k. daughter of the united states government. clearly believe it's not
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a vote when we were at the end of the day. it is a hot topic issue. i think people necessarily don't want to, as they say, put the head on a block for what is being described. as donald just said, as abstract phillips, but it's not abstract too. it's as we are living in every the, it's a reality. and we need to focus on the reality. we need to focus on accountability because the crime with crisis was not started by small island developing states, but we need to ensure that we protect the most vulnerable in our communities. who are the footprints of this kind of crisis. we need to maybe stop being a little so politically correct about it. and we actually meet as he said, the conversation has been going on for 20. is the time to take action was not, no, it was then. what do you mean by let the politically correct?
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probably some point of we need to tackle the issues of hands on. we need to talk of the issues that are in front of us. we need to take the well overall eyes off. we need to bring like spaces like this, do bring a lot more away in this car, t and vision to what is happening in these countries that are being affected by climate change and put a human element to it because of the human element. that stuff is the most, and i see you on out of money that needs to support, as i'll call except in terms of the policies i'm making, the policies are reality. because if we continue to sits on our hands, we're going to continue to have more barrels. we're going to continue to have more dorians, they're going to continue to have more super phones. and we really need to start putting the human agend at the full front on the humanitarian agenda at the forefront to protect the life of the livelihoods, of people who are routinely impacted every single season. but okay,
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these would be super. so 3, i'm going to move on because we're gonna go 3 or 4 minutes left. and i want to come to both of our other guests that you have festival. and you mentioned the price s. how do we make that a more meaningful? and the question is, is the mechanism itself broken? the un framework itself is, is just not working. there are certain indications that we need to put pressure on the international process. it this i wouldn't, i would agree with you a little bit broken, but it's our best option right now in terms of getting old countries. ready to contribute towards meaningful solutions for the climate crises, i would say every politician will doesn't talk about climate change based on the wrong side of the piece 3. and we will keep exposing the sort of leaders who, who are not addressing and confronting describes just. ready like they should, but as a price is, it's daniel,
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despite of the renewable energy is gaining ground. there is a growing demand, especially from us movements around the world to change. it's not too late, is it? it's not too late. you know that the fact that we're dealing with barrels as of the impacts impacts are already with us, but there's sort of a range of what impacts we could be seeing in the future. and if we reduce our, our fossil fuel emissions, our greenhouse gas emissions, right? now we can sort of mitigate and reduce those impacts that we're going to be seeing going forward. and this is really good evidence what's happening with barrel right now is really good evidence that the climate system is already responding to the decisions we make. so that's actually kind of an interesting story because it says that the decisions we make right now will affect going forward. and so it is critical that this moment we have these conversations, we continued connect, what we see happening in the real world to the decisions we are making about how we
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admit things, how we produce our energy. and it's critical that we think about that in this moment and make the decisions going forward that will be product, both ourselves and future generations. yeah, if you have what, it's on both sides of defense from negotiating a to activism at this point in time. where, where do you find, how do you truly believe that we will get out of this? so there are days when we confront the arctic and it's like the repeating barrier then the if the issue just really thoughtfully plus start and, and seem to go. but we have to wake up each morning with hope and hope is stronger than fear. and therefore, we should just keep believing that another world is possible that we can make this happen. we can make the just energy accreditation possible in our generation and then create a world up. it's just if it's safe. and that's that, that, that is meaningfully incredible for everybody. this is, uh,
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this is about just as be somebody, fairness, those are suffering from the most adverse impacts of defined advices, are adults. so then keep it said the leads to this problem. and therefore, if we have any faith in your mind, if the site is facing your mind if event we will be able to find just basis and, and, and result of this crisis. one simple, let's finish and the region ria at this difficult point in time for the car been, it must be hard to find any optimism. a tool is no. what, what are you thinking about the is a head and how we tackle this crisis. it wants to agree with what the end side we can't, we can't allow ourselves to things like that. we have to be optimistic about the future. we have to replace the organizations like the red cross to support the community development and community building efforts at that level. because the communities, all very 1st responders, so we need to invest in community and resilience. bellingham,
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community preparedness, so that we know what to do. and we knew how to adapt on able to sort of chat the cost, followed for the future. we need to understand the risk of the relatives a lot better so that we are able to plan and prepare for them. and we have to do that with an open mind, an open spirit, to be able to accept the hope that's going forward. because in the caribbean, we are refusing to accept that this is going to be the b, b, o and or for us, we need to be able to be more resilient. and in order to do that, we have to have a positive outlook on the future. right? as i say when, if not now we'll have to leave it the a thing. so i guess daniel guilford, a written buddy. yeah. and another if you have sunroof. thank you very much and thank you for watching. you can see our programs again at any time by visiting a website out there at the. com. and to continue the conversation. just go to our
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