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a good start on the road to recovery. the storm damage some homes, especially those who can least afford it, like it and will feed that card to their roof, flew off soaking everything inside, including their cardboard walls. the hurricane season starts now, but they've never come before september or october and imagine if it start to move worthy, what can we expect? i'm maurice. unlike hurricane otis, which caused catastrophic damage and lift at least 50 did in acapulco last october, this time authorities took precautions and there were no human casualties. at this point, hurricane barrow has become a tropical storm, is that makes its way to the other end of the you can time peninsula from there, it will enter the gulf of mexico, where the warm water is good. turner's again into a powerful hurricane before it rich land falls, yet again in mexico. on sunday,

on the road to cologne, businesses are slowly opening up to us to starting to come out. relieved, didn't we? we are ramaya. the worst is over, at least for now. you see and human algebra to mexico. authorities in the town in ireland to sicily have issued a 2nd to read a large because of volcanic activity. the strong bony volcano has erupt, it and speed hold ashan lava. it comes a day after a month after europe's largest active volcano erupted competing in the nearby town of atanya. in osh, looking at airport was supposed to close template awfully upfront is next on robotics, and stay with us. and ours is the worked out of their existence, it's load ship as a principal present, asked as

a correspondence with any breaking the story we want to hear from those people who would normally not get that forces on the international news channels. one david top. if i proud all was when we covered the fullness quake of 2015, at the terrible match, all the facts and the story that needed to be told from the hall of the affected area to be then to tell the people story. it was very important at the time in 1971, a military analyst by the name of daniel ellsberg leaked to the press, a 7000 page top secret pentagon study on covering years of official lies about u. s. military involvement in the vietnam war. delete documents, known as the pentagon papers were instrumental in exposing the scope and strategy behind the us as war in the region. and many of the time believed that they could change how the world view war decades later, as conflicts range on in your brain. you're going to need to just the name of the decision making process behind wars remains as murphy is that what we do know is

that billions of dollars is spent on weapons and defense contracts every year, making conflict incredibly profitable for so that will benefit from what who are the biggest players behind the war machine? and upfront special daniel ellsberg, the daniel ellsberg, thank you so much for joining me on upfront is thank you for having a large part of your life's work. has been committed to not only raising awareness about the dangers of nuclear weapons, but also the money behind them. in 2020 is depend, demik raged. the 9 nuclear weapons states collectively spent an estimated $72000000000.00 on nuclear weapons. and we're now living in a time when the danger of nuclear war, of course, have spike. where does this leave the movement for nuclear disarmament given how much money is that play? and all of this is kept us from having any real effect on reducing the danger. ok. war all these years i'm over was quite effective range and helping stop the above

ground. trish and then really, really under contract stream eventually. but in other respects, it really has just been very effective and i don't think the movement was just conscious as it should be, of the money behind judging the fact that had on congress they were really actors. so it was just a question of what people watch which, which was void for work or just political, a strategic aspect. so it is not needed. it's dangerous and so forth. but it's getting very little attention to the role of companies like holding lockheed raphael and general dynamics and job the asia as you're far they really want to factor. it's like talking about climate with i'm talking about the extra incorporation or show or show drawing and actually that he should wait time or just talk to a lot of pretty much we just don't face track and we're finishing large flo shavani

directed at keeping the status cool, which is the status goal of extreme nuclear dangerous, especially in times of crisis like this. the end of climate move on toward the end of this basically the end of the correction little is ation of a creek. free shuffling of people around the world can talk about the threat of nuclear war and this abyss that we're headed toward, and that's certainly a piece of another piece of it, is more an armed conflict that's taking place right now is playing multiple countries. you can, you've got ukraine, you've got a young man, you've got some malia, you've got the ethiopian list, goes on. but behind wars like that are a weapons industry that you just alluded to. that was worth $531000000000.00 worldwide in 2020 and as of this recording, while the invasion of ukraine intensifies, the stock price is general dynamics, lockheed martin. as you mentioned, northrop grumman raytheon. they recently hit their 5 year highs. so as we talk

about more, we also have people who benefits from war. can you help me unpack that a little bit? let's really benefit it. is the old dress button slogan coolly, bono, who benefits are going all the way back and we'll shoot for name. let's just go in the last century world war one. the loans by j. p. morgan to the british for arms, for it should british it and tried to deal, or even it had lost the war to some attention to the motor window, calling bankrupt. and wilson, our president could not allow that to happen. it would have been a financial disaster. and back to show on for later on in particular, whoa, whoa, who benefited from vietnam going on as long as you do it? or ref, cashier right now, the way that we're supporting in your money true arms, just show the review and the way it is keeping it actually genocide,

a more going on or a normative massacre. and i think with very little benefit trick shipped to the i'm sure your factors, people ask, why don't we learn more from our failures in vietnam and uh after i understand and elsewhere. and the answer is how, how solution to learn as far as for very profitable for the people you name for lucky raphael, i'm not sure what any others are. they have anything to learn. i'm afraid that right now, there's 2 major purposes that will keep towards it. can keep the word and ukraine going, as long as we're in afghanistan. now here's the way that it's being waged now, but by a kind of good we're, we're, we're supporting that wish report as we did atkins to show the issue. and that's kind of stand for 10 years on the we'll claim, you know, people will be ground to pitch in the course of that as we ask grams for. and yet it's very profitable for people who are supplying those weapons and keep going to

use one other major motives that are fictional evictions in particular in europe. and that is our newest role in or who are not after all european nation. and we ask no particular rule in new york in union or your nature. oh that is the mafia. shes cushion ups, truck, our thing. we control natal, pretty much, and nato position execution region to shell, a norbish them off from arms to now to the farm. already warsaw pact, nations which had only checked her grades are actually soviet weapons all together from the moment, took the berlin wall, came down lockheed representatives for in warsaw. showing me i'm on a need for f 20 tools and for other weapons right there. like it's true, as the russians, reasonably fashion treat. russia isn't indispensable enemy in your

nothing else can run a female history channel enemy that's, that's, that's, that's fascinating language. break that down for me, the, an indispensable. and what does that mean? it means that you can't really justify new tried and shopper range or icbm, which the north requirement is making the whole realize she'd be out against the oven, or i should order. okay, so they just don't 100 as rationale for a multi $1000000000.00 home exposure. only russia has a target, surely sophisticated arms to fight against. you don't need advance 5th generation fighters against people who don't have heavy aircraft or fighters, or their own, or sophisticated ones. but russia and know china if for the future in particular, to offer not just a ride home or a competitor, but someone who could be painted as an enemy against home,

you have to defend. and of course, who know in the last 2 months has just been a bonanza for the garbage people. because it last, you mean russia look an offensive enemy or sometime who has to be defended against, with the latest weapons, with new weapons. and of course, russia has it, military industrial complex to that. that's fascinating. reminded me of the black arts poet, gills got herons that everybody loves peace. the problem is you can't make no money off of it. you know, in the past few months, more than 5600000000 dollars has been poured into ukraine in the form of military aid from the us, from the u. k. in from the e. u. we seen similar situations in the past when us arms were used by libyan and syrian opposition groups. but what happens when those conflicts are over or seemingly over? oh, where the weapons go? the 1st, it's a long time before these kind of picture over, you know,

you have kind of shannon went on for 20 years and i could have been much longer in libya. what we did was supply lot of weapons to people who in charge. i sold them to other insurance, easily interest groups and others throughout africa and elsewhere. and of course, our information now expansion on an effect that she can for soviet ice, which are all shipped. sure. yeah. okay. and then we are anxious. so we shouldn't have blow back to fix all keeping in mind. they didn't highlight these option just research. we were obviously, they didn't invade ukraine. who did that. however, the, in their people, they were in charge of the government were willing to risk a war life is coming from their policies which weren't checked for voc rehab in terms of making it likely that the russian to any russian we're, we're the eventually react against it. however illegally, just as we reacted,

waiting khrushchev put initials into what truly is your tires are not specials, did not, in fact strengthen our security. and i assure you, that is someone who is looking at precisely the problem in the pentagon. at that time working for his mac number, i should say it's not a security problem, initials into what it's supposed to call problem critical. the can this is someone at this stage foreseeable, right. i mean, after seeing what happens in syria with thing, what happens in libby or weak as you've done, we can go back decades prior. the weapons end up in the hands of folk who are physically we wouldn't want to have them. and yet we continue it to fund them directly or by proxy. so i guess the question for me is, why do we allow that to happen? and ultimately, what happens to these, what was, what kind of consideration is given to what happens to these when it comes down to who is a we is we're talking about, it's not just,

it's not just century the tax payers or the citizens who are by the way, regrettably, willing to, she had tests of others who don't look like, gosh, ukraine is getting much more concerned about the casualty using the word crimes because it is not a problem. most homes that are being a victim last year. but probably the russians in this case, but it's like christians and that through my thoughts and to see the room. so try which inter, increase your public pressure lessons here before putting all of these on vacations and so should. oh, what's the problem? we hear that matters. one should provide the large campaign contributions and it provides the personnel and high level sit tight and the frank benefits fine from them. there's no problem. it may not be very successful, but a feeling war is just as profitable as

a winning one. in fact and show proof better cuz it goes on forever. as you shave the winning is over st with uh, we can show you the libby is it is the prime example uh where in which i'm sure they have cash and where the webpage fan go to other people. it provided opponents to an adversary. what is the pat multiple adversaries are also good for the military industrial complex, not only in our country and ignore as well. it's not only american to show the show webpage utilities mainly. these uh, let me see the french, the others. and the russians have big arms mortgage in the world. according to the institute for policy studies last year, the average american tax payer gave about $2000.00 to the military with over $900.00 going to corporate and military contractors and contracts. the

average tax pair contributed about $27.00 to the centers for disease control prevention and barely $5.00 to renewable energy. how do you advocate for peace? when so much tax pare money is going to will call it defense or so because in particular are very resistant to spending on social welfare or of any kind for people or anything that in any way seems to compete with private industry. the one thing you can get republicans to a bunch of money for is allegedly national security. even though almost none of these were going to actually add or even relevant to our national security, which they are relevant to making french against russian. you need russia later, china will be the building of little charlie to serve the purpose of the necessary

the industries chivalry. but now it was hard to keep the cold weren't going uh, fully at full speed with without rush engine anyway in the ninety's and the reports of this century. so knowledge back and was back for to your track on worship. like now putting his shit into that in a way that i think was not on welcome to our military industry. if they didn't actually want to drive much, or they could even count on russia actually invading another country. like to have rush through objecting and complaining and posing and checking into a great i see do the whole year ago, which worker with troops on the edge of the ukraine and, and brothers. all that was good traditions. and it doesn't, by the way is doesn't justify put was a griffin at all. he's

a did have reason to feel in the longer run strickland a russian security in terms of what financial close to their borders like the weapons in cuba. and we objected to the tenant currently here, no, richard of increasing for trending toward vague to all that. and russia has had no legitimate originally from reading the train. but nevertheless, we've pursued a policy that was warmed against, going back to the late ninety's by towards kevin others, the founder of the cold war and 1st place who should issue him from describable tell her blunder. mistake to make an enemy refresher by moving especially into ukraine. up some of the us as top spies and military generals with ties and defense contractors end up as intelligence analyst on various news channels when they retire. for example, former c, i a director john brennan became nbc senior national security and intelligence

analysts. i sent you shaking your head. i can't wait. what are you going to say? and former c i a director michael hayden became a national security analyst for cnn. how much does this, a compromise with the public is told about what, what else, what that state? well, it depends what you think the purpose of the functions of media is in times of war in our motorized society. and folks from pretty much is to show the public on the need for more weapons and the need to intervene in this country are media is ultimately controlled by major corporations like general electric, for a long time. and many other conglomerates basically told me, shows recognize the consumers of big business. and as i say more is good visions for the media and drill for the administration, even when it's failing. so sure, i'm answering your question. it's natural for them to hire these people for

messages to get propaganda out of who better to do it. that nation military or the she, i people, if you want and list war which can affect the wish has wanted for the event something. what happens right? what happens when citizens are only told the truth about war uh, after the war's are over, after the government information is leaked after information is the classified. it seems like we only get this under extreme and unforeseeable circumstances when the people were trying to conceal it. so what does that mean for us? well, the kind of information that we need is a bug for you. um, i was represented by such as the pentagon papers, which was a study of vietnam decision making 44526768. i put that out 1st starting in $69.00, and then through the newspapers in $71.00, each for that was somewhat related, but not too long. but i put on trial for

a possible 115 years in prison. that showed down quite a few people, but i didn't see any other bigger choices for 39 years until chelsea manning put out hundreds of thousands for files long as kind of shame and a rack. and she was friendship and a half years in prison is no to for his revelations, essential relationship criminality. why the national security agency, the universal surveillance, not only in our country but around the world, but uh where it wasn't so illegal but definitely against the transportation in america. and so is essentially a lifetime exile. so these people in general, hail revealed a drone program, but they did what they should have done just as i think i did what i should have done. but everyone has paid a penalty, very heavy penalty. not even my chase eviction actually committed. so many crimes

which happened to amazingly almost miraculously, to become revealed towards the end of my trial, i kept me from having to go to prison. she had intended, with the others, isn't showing either a trial or prison and that just purchase people. you mentioned chelsea, manning, she of course lead information through wiki leaks and now it looks like we can expounded, drilling a size is being extradited to the united states. and we can be published, of course classified information including documented supposing us war crimes in iraq. and if dennis dance and publishers were integral to the information but newly about the vietnam war. so i'm curious from your perspective, what happens if that president that you spoke to is said that allows governments to dictate what can and can't be published? well, if i make it this way, it's written just to create a new express position of distinguishable from russians today with drawing

a charge of extradited if he hasn't yet been extradited. but it was expedited and prosecuted, convicted here, we loan. i've had the 1st instance of an actual journalist. i haven't get an impression for putting out the truth. i was the 1st source for official to give information like a teacher or should i was put on trial for. but no journalist is here. we're going put on trial, thanks to our 1st amendment, freedom of the press and present speech, which most countries don't have as a law or a of it will be essentially russian did. if julie nashandra successfully prosecuted, and we will have to approach the state control of your information, such as we're shooting in russia today. all of these cases, of course, demonstrate the importance of exposing the truth about what's happening when it

comes to war in other matters. and of course, your linking of the pentagon papers is a prime example of that. but today, we have an expansion, arise even of this information and it's hard to decipher what's true, what's not, what's fact, what's fiction, how important is it to have actual transparency when it comes to government actions and government decisions about war. the, i'm afraid is that transparency and war are 2 words. don't really go to each other . they don't exist together. you know, hard time, a secrecy that's a government carries on all the time of audition crimes and lies misleading statements and bad predictions from retros sections. that secrecy, you shouldn't go to devices or because you have to keep it from your enemy. that's one of the senses in which direction and at least are indispensable. especially as

i see the long term once in the, in the cold war. we have to keep things from the russians altogether and show you don't show pick transparency. and when people do come out, there's 2 that they either get, they do get prosecutor when it's coming out of the ship, part of it, which is you're just making is nothing much happens. it may affect public opinion, additional expense of public affairs doesn't drive policy, or whether award can be ended or not. i hoped it would. in fact, in my case, an action would show concerns that i might put out his chic rich, which i did have, but i didn't have documents to prove it. but he thought i had documentation to shut me up. he did domestic crimes against an american me, which actually featured far more politically than the media and as of other people we were truly in vietnam or crime against an american congress more.

unfortunately, when these things have come out, i have to say not much of strange. so there's a problem with the audience with the citizenry. you could say with our species. and i actually, i do say that our willingness to support on questioning a liter, especially when he or occasionally she can point to somebody's reckoning their security. and she has to shut down public information about it in order to people who are wrong with that pretty well. and when they find out there's not too many of our own shoulders, you're getting killed ashley and they have tennis fans. they got to go on and definitely have cash that was 20 years ukraine. i think of 5050 vall down the russians came in more, didn't get out, which i don't expect them to do wish and others will be supporting a little more which quickly just costly to the ukrainians as the gorilla war.

that's the most redeem products that we supplied against the soviets, and that's kind of stand that cost. so media and a half f can live and i would hate to see that imposed on the grant and people one under any circumstances i venture or lifetime in vietnam. and i saw what we did to instructions from the way a bottom question. shovel megabytes. that has not yet been the price in afghanistan, no matter what, what we're hearing about for crimes, because you will, could be show negotiated outcome, which concessions are made on both sides. however, i'm satisfactory. mindful to many people on both sides could shave hundreds of thousands to be the initial 5. and i would like to see that happen. i don't think it will. i don't think it will. wow. and on that, so bring note i want to thank you for your time,

daniel ellsberg. thank you for joining us on a thank you. a pod . his aim interviews is israel and obstacles piece. i think that the new thing you have on his government with these says 5 digit, you say getting less of a thought provoking on the e. you made weapons being used in guns. no guns should be used in an offensive way . that's our facing realities. you're running mean what does he bring to the table? hard from the presidential go to some we cannot take the fact that he was signing up, present as not the need for the effective he of the story on talk to how does era with a manual micros policy performing only french voters will decide whether to give the fall rights power. pick the results of the run up phone on july 7th of

consequences for your loss of coverage at the 2nd round of the french elections. and i'll just say the as the world wait to see if the international criminal court will issue a rest. torrence for the leadership is right. and how much people in power quits the r c, c's, track, record on trial. this court was created to hold those responsible, accountable, prevent such crimes from happening again. so is the i c. c fit for purpose? people in power on al jazeera rush i, it's a fairly challenging place to work from. as a journalist, even though you're saying you can't do it, it's not allowed to, you're still pushing, they're always pushing a boundaries for peacefully. mazda,

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