but me and most of the government says it needs international support to rebuild civil society. we capture the people in the criminal way when, but without the good of presence and without the good judges, how can we do that? that just is so and that those are the small but very important stuff. the internship. i mean it's kind of help to the soldiers. it's the end of the line. but if nothing else, the secure and well fed them yet most bits of civil war that can be counted as a when tony chang elders are one bonder, this 8 people have died because of flooding. as far as he's the one that was the levels will continue to rise to 1000000 people are affected of the heavy rains cause major rivers to bus the banks of the country is in the middle of it. some of them on soon. but scientists say that climate change has made the reigns stronger and more rustic. meanwhile,

officials in the us state of texas have asked people that to pass a storm barrel. they say the tropical storm, could we gain strength and hit the state as a hurricane on monday. the barrel has already slipped across the caribbean, killing at least 11 people. mexico cannot preparation is been underway in that you could confident skill on wake federal and made land full that on friday as a category 3. hurricane. lots of america edited a scene human has went out from puddle. com. it's hard to believe that less than 48 hours ago hurricane barrel. at the time, a category 3 storm came onto this beach, broke power lines down trees, centuries frantically into their hotels and to lock down. now you can see people are back on the beach. the sun is out, and what was a hurricane? a deadly hurricane that left at least 11 people did in the caribbean, on its path to your to mexico is now a tropical storm. overnight it hits many that

a city on the other side of the you can time peninsula. now it is going into the gulf of mexico still as a tropical storm for the moment it's not doing any damage with the big question is will of gather strength in the warm waters of the goals and then head towards either come, i will leap us in mexico and then on to texas. that's where we're seeing right now . it's going towards what this, christy, texas, it may or may not. wizard or become stronger. it could even become a category 3 or higher hurricane. this has been a very, very mystical storm throughout the time that it's been in this area. and so we really can predict what's going to happen. you see, and human alj, a 0 play other governments, mexico, as well. that's up for me and associates, hey, well, mass us and we'll have more few hits of to upfront, and i will see you off to that to stay with the

nature 9 made catastrophes. alley rate was by severe weather events or resulting in other words, think devastation. the variety of human factors needs to intensity and impact is a purely natural. and the politics behind normalizing climate changes was to affect if i was supposed to be seen as normal. but if that's something that should have to happen to any one, is it really a natural disaster? oh, hell, the planet on al jazeera, in 1971, a military analyst by the name of daniel ellsberg leaked to the press. a 7000 page top secret pentagon study and covering years of official lies about u. s. military involvement in the vietnam war. leak documents, known as the pentagon papers were instrumental in exposing the scope and strategy behind the us as war in the region. and many of the time believed that they could change how the world view war decades later as complex range on and ukraine. you have anything over here, just the name of the decision making process behind wars remains as mercury is that

what we do know is that billions of dollars are spent on weapons and defense contracts every year, making conflict incredibly profitable stuff. so what benefits from what? who are the biggest players behind the war machine? and upfront special daniel ellsberg, the daniel ellsberg, thank you so much for joining me on upfront or thank you for having a large part of your life's work has been committed to not only raising awareness about the dangers of nuclear weapons, but also the money behind them in 2020 is the pen demik raged the 9 nuclear weapon states collectively spitting estimate. it's $72000000000.00 on nuclear weapons. and we're now living in a time when the danger of nuclear war, of course has spiked. where does this leave? the movement for nuclear disarmament given how much money is that play and all of this was kept us from having any real effect on reducing the danger of the war all

these years. they're both on was quite effective range and helping stop the above ground. trish and then very easily under contract stream eventually. but in other respects it really hasn't been very effective and i don't want to move on was conscious as it should be of the money behind jimmy effect that had on congress they were really active. so there was just a question of what people watch which was to avoid know for work or just political, a strategic aspect. so it's not needed. it's dangerous and so forth. but it's getting very little attention to the role of companies like boeing, lockheed raphael in general dynamics and john t i page as you're far they really weren't effective. it's like talking about climate with i'm talking about the extra incorporation or show or show run. and

actually this week time i just talked about pretty much we just don't face track that we're finishing large flo shavani directed at keeping the status cool. which is the status goal of extreme nuclear dangerous, especially in times of crisis like this uh, and of climate move on. toward the end of this, basically the end of the correction little section of a creek, free shuffling of people around the world can talk about the threat of nuclear war . and this abyss that we're headed toward, and that's certainly a piece of another piece of it, is more an armed conflict that's taking place right now is playing multiple countries. you can see that you create and you've got a young man, you've got some malia, you've got the ethiopian list, goes on. but behind wars like that are a weapons industry that you just alluded to. that was worth $531000000000.00 worldwide in 2020 and as of this recording, while the invasion of ukraine intensifies the stock prices and general dynamics

lockheed martin. as you mentioned, northrop grumman raytheon. they recently hit their 5 year highs. so as we talk about more, we also have people who benefits from war. can you help me unpack that a little bit who's really beneficial? it is the old dress button slogan coolly, bono, who benefits are going all the way back and we'll shoot for name. let's just go in the last century world war one. the loans by j. p. morgan to the british for arms, for extra british shooting chad to deal or even had lost the war to some extension, p motor window calling bankrupt. and wilson, our president could not allow that to happen. it would have been a financial disaster. and back to show on for later on in particular, whoa, whoa, who benefited from vietnam going on as long as you do it? or ref, cashier right now the war that we're supporting in your money true arms,

just show the review and the way it is keeping it actually genocide, a more going on or a normative massacre. and i think with very little benefit trick shipped to the i'm sure your factors, people ask, why don't we learn more from our failures in vietnam and uh after i understand and elsewhere. and the answer is how, how solution to learn as far as for very profitable for the people you name for lucky raphael, i'm not sure what any others are. they have anything to learn. i'm afraid that right now, there's 2 major purposes that will keep the can keep to we're ukraine going. as long as we're in afghanistan. now, here's the way that it's being waged now, but by a kind of parental we're, we're supporting that wish report. as we did atkins to show the issue and that's kind of stand for 10 years on the we'll claim, you know,

people would be ground to pitch in the course of that as we have terms for and yet it's very profitable for people who are supplying those weapons and keep going to use one other major motives that are fictional evictions in particular in europe. and that is our newest role in or who are not after all european nation. and we have no particular role in the european union or your nature. oh, that's just the mafia changed culture. no stress are thing. we control natal pretty much. and nato position execution or reason to show a norbish them off from arms to now to the farm. already warsaw pact, nations which had only checked her grade or actually soviet weapons all together. from the moment that the broiling wall came down, lockheed representatives for in warsaw showing me i'm on a need for f 20 tools and for other weapons right there. like it's true,

as the russians, reasonably fashion treat. russia isn't indispensable enemy in your nothing else can read channel history. channel enemy that's, that's, that's, that's fascinating language. break that down for me, the, an indispensable. and what does that mean? it means that you can't really justify new tried and shopper range or icbm, which the north requirement is making the whole realize she'd be up against the ellen or i should order. okay, so they just don't 100 as rationale for a multi $1000000000.00 homes budget. only russia has a target, surely sophisticated arms to fight against. you don't need advance 5th generation fighters against people who don't have heavy aircraft or fighters, or their own, or sophisticated ones. but russia and no china for the future in particular,

to offer. not just a ride home or a competitor, but someone who could be painted as an enemy against home, you have to defend. and of course, know in the last 2 months has just been a bonanza for the garbage people. because it last, shoot me russia look an offensive enemy or sometime who has to be defended against which the latest weapons with new weapons. and of course, russia has which military industrial complex to its fascinating reminded me of the black arts poet, gills got herons that everybody loves peace. the problem is you can't make no money off of it. you know, in the past few months, more than 5600000000 dollars has been poured into ukraine in the form of military aid from the us, from the u. k. in from the e. u. we seen similar situations in the past when u. s. arms were used by libyan and syrian opposition groups. but what happens when those conflicts are over or seemingly over?

oh, where the weapons go. this is the 1st, it's a long time before these kind of tricks. it rolls around. as you know, you have kind of shannon went on for 20 years and it could have been much longer in libya. and what we did was supply lot of weapons to people who in charge show some to other insurance agencies and terrorist groups, others throughout africa and elsewhere. and of course, our information now expansion on an effect that she can for soviet ice, which are all shipped. sure. yeah. okay. and then we are anxious, so we shouldn't have low back to fix all keeping in mind, they didn't have the option just research. we were obviously, they didn't invade ukraine. who did that. however, the, in their people, they were in charge of the government were willing to risk a war life is coming from their policies, which weren't checked for voc rehab in terms of making it likely that the russians

here any russian we're, we're the eventually react against it. however illegally, just as we reacted, waiting khrushchev put initials into what truly is your tires are not specials, did not in fact, tread in our security. and i assure you that is someone who is looking at precisely the problem in the pentagon. at that time working for his mac number, i should say it's not a security problem, initials into what it's supposed to cont, problem critical. the can this is someone at this stage foreseeable, right. i mean, after seeing what happens in syria with thing, what happens in libby or weak as you've done, we can go back decades prior. the weapons end up in the hands of folk who are physically we wouldn't want to have them. and yet we continue it to fund them directly or by proxy. so i guess the question for me is, why do we allow that to happen? and ultimately, what happens to these, what was, what kind of consideration is given to what happens to these when it comes to on

those who was the we were talking about? it's not just, it's not just century the tax payers or the citizens who are, by the way, regrettably willing to, she had tests of others who don't look like, gosh, ukraine is getting much more concerned about the casual using the word crimes. because it is not a problem, most homes that are being a victim, i'm sure, but probably the russians in this case. but it's like christians and their life thoughts and to show you their rooms for trying which inter, increase your public pressure. the lessons here before pushing all of the subject cases and structured. oh, what's the problem? we hear that matters. one should provide the large campaign contributions and it provides the personnel and high level sit tight and the insurance benefits fine

from them. there's no problem. it may not be very successful, but a feeling war is just as profitable as a winning one in fact and show proof better because it goes on forever. as you shave the winning is over st with uh, we can show you the libby is it is the prime example i where in which i'm sure they have cash and where the webpage fan go to other people. it provided opponents to an adversary. what is the pat multiple adversaries are also good for the military industrial complex, not only in our country and ignore as well. it's not only american to show the show webpage utilities, mainly. these, let me see the french, the others, and the russians have big arms markets in the world. according to the institute for policy studies last year, the average american tax payer gave about $2000.00 to the military

with over $900.00 going to corporate and military contractors and contracts. the average tax pair contributed about $27.00 to the centers for disease control prevention and barely $5.00 to renewable energy. how do you advocate for peace? when so much tax pare money is going to will call it defense. so because in particular, are very resistant to spending on social welfare or of any kind for people or anything that in any way seems to compete with private industry. the one thing you can get republicans to a bunch of money for is allegedly national security. even though almost none of these workers actually add or even relevant to our national security, which they are relevant to making french against russian. you need russia later,

a china will be built enough, little charlie to serve the purpose of the necessary the industries chivalry. but now it was hard to keep the cold weren't going uh, fully at full speed, with without rush engine anyway in the ninety's. and the reports of this century, so knowledge back and was back for to your track on worship. but now putting his shit into that in a way that i think was not con. welcome to our military industry. if they didn't actually want to talk much, or they could even count on russia actually invading another country like to have rush to objecting and complaining and posing and treatment towards rate. and so you do the whole year ago with wordpress, which troops on the edge of your brain and, and brothers. all that was good traditions. and it doesn't, by the way,

this doesn't justify pulled, was a griffin at all. he's a did have reason to feel in the longer run strickland a russian security in terms of what financial close to their borders like the weapons in cuba. and we objected to the tenant henry had no retreat of increasing for training toward vague to all that. and russia has had no legitimate originally from reading the train, but nevertheless, we've pursued a policy that was warmed against, going back to the late ninety's by towards kevin others, the founder of the cold war and 1st place who should issue him from describable tell her blunder. mistake to make an enemy refresher by moving especially into ukraine. up some of the us as top spies and military generals with ties and defense contractors end up as intelligence analyst on various news

channels when they retire. for example, former c, i a director john brennan became nbc senior national security and intelligence analysts. i sent you shaking your head. i can't wait, what you're going to say. and former c i a director michael hayden became a national security analyst for cnn. how much does this, a compromise with the public is told about what, what else, what that state as well, it depends what you think the purpose of the functions of media is in times of war in our motorized society. and folks from pretty much is to show the public on the need for more weapons. and the need to intervene in this country are really, is ultimately controlled by major corporations like general electric for a long time. and many other conglomerates basically told me, shows recognize the consumers of big business. and as i say more is good visions for the media and drill for the administration, even when it's failing. so sure,

i'm answering your question. it's natural for them to hire these people for messages to get propaganda out of who better to do it. that nation military or the she, i people, if you want and list war which can affect the wish has wanted for the event something. what happens right? what happens when citizens are only told the truth about war uh, after the war's are over, after the government information is leaked after information is the classified. it seems like we only get this under extreme and unforeseeable circumstances when the people were trying to conceal it. so what does that mean for us, as well as the kind of information that we need is a bug for you. um, i was represented by such as the pentagon papers, which was the study of vietnam decision making 44526768. i put that out 1st starting in 69,

and then which was the most papers in 71. and so that was somewhat related, but not too long. but i put on trial for a possible 115 years in prison. that showed down quite a few people. i didn't see any other big new choice that for 39 years until chelsea manning put out hundreds of thousands for files on his patterson and a rack. and she was going to share with him and a half years in prison is no to for his revelations, essential revelation. so criminality. why the national security agency, the universal surveillance, not only in our country but around the world, but uh where it wasn't sho illegal, but definitely against transportation in america, it actually is a essentially a lifetime exile. so these people in general, hail revealed a drone program. i think what they should have done just is i think i did what i should have done, but everyone has paid a penalty,

very heavy penalty. now the money chase eviction actually committed so many crimes which happened to amazingly almost miraculously to become revealed towards the end of my trial that kept me from having to go to prison as she had intended with the others, isn't showing either a child or prison and that just purchased people. you mentioned chelsea, manning, she of course, lead information through with you leaks. and now it looks like we can expound julianna's size is being extradited to the united states. and we can be, it's published, of course classified information, including documented supposing us war crimes in iraq and again, the stance and publishers were integral to the information but newly about the vietnam war. so i'm curious from your perspective, what happens if that president that you spoke to is said that allows governments to dictate what can and can't be published?

well, if i may put it this way, it's written is to create a new express position of distinguishable from love. today with julian, a charge of extradited if he hasn't yet been extradited. but he was expedited and prosecuted. convicted here, we loan. i've had the 1st instance of an actual journalist. i haven't get an impression for putting out the truth. i was the 1st source for official to give information like that to generation i was put on trial for, but no journalist is ever been put on trial. thanks to our 1st amendment, freedom of depression and free speech, which most countries don't have as the law or a or it will be essentially were shifted. if julie nashandra successfully prosecuted, and we will have to approach the state control of information such as we're seeing in russia today. all of these cases of course,

demonstrate the importance of exposing the truth about what's happening when it comes to war. in other matters, and of course, your leaking of the pentagon papers is a prime example of that. but today, we have an expansion, arise even of this information and it's hard to decipher what's true, what's not, what's fact, what's fiction? how important is it to have actual transparency when it comes to government actions and government decisions about war a hi, i'm afraid that transparency and war are 2 words. don't really go to each other. i don't think just together in a hard time, a secrecy that's a government carries on all the time of audition crimes and lies and misleading statements and bad predictions from regular sections. that secrecy, you shouldn't need to turn your life in more because you have to keep it from one

your enemy. that's one of the senses in which direction enemies are indispensable, especially as a certain long term once in a, in a cold war, we have to keep things from the russians altogether and show you don't show pick transparency. and when people do come out, there's 2, they either get, they do get prosecutor when it's coming out of the ship, part of it, which is you're just saying is nothing much happens. it may affect public opinion additional except for public affairs and doesn't try pharmacy or whether award can be handled or not. i hoped it would. in fact, in my case, an action would show concerns that i might put out his sheep, which, which i did have, but i didn't have documents to prove it. but he thought i had documents should just shut me up. he did domestic crimes against an american me, which actually filtered far more politically, the use of other people we were truly in vietnam or crime against an

american congress more. unfortunately, when these things have come out, i have to shake not much exchange. so there's a problem with the audience with the citizen rate, you could say with our species. and i actually, i do say that our willingness to support on questioning a leader, especially when he or occasionally she can point to some what is strengthening their security. and she has to shut down public information about it in order to people who are wrong with it pretty well. and when they find out there's not too many of our own shows. tricia getting killed ashley and they have kind of span. they had to go on and definitely have cash. that was 20 years ukraine. i think to 5050 fall down the russians came when more didn't get out, which i don't expect them to, to wish than others will be supporting

a little more which quickly just costly to the ukraine image as the gorilla war. this p looks at dean put up to we supplied against the shoulder. yes. and that's kind of stand that cost. so a media and a half asked and lives and i would hate to see that imposed on the training people one under any circumstances. i venture war like that in vietnam, and i saw what we did to instructions from the way a bottom course shovel, megabytes that has not yet been the price in afghanistan, no matter what, what we're hearing about for crimes. because it will, could be show and negotiated outcome and which constructions are made on both sides . however, i'm satisfactory. mindful to many people on both sides could shave hundreds of thousands to be initial fives. and i would like to see that happen. i don't think,

you know, i don't think it will. wow. and on that, so bring note i want to thank you for your time, daniel ellsberg. thank you for joining us on a thank you. the latest news. the renewed bombardments and intense fighting show that in north goes like it was what the strip this will this fall from over with detailed coverage given the lack of international up for it would be up to residence if they've been to defend their very existence in their land from the hoss of the story. we're not passion for through this something that helped her serve by the daily life. it's a distraction of, from what she has witnessed. this is the 1st one they saw that we see the real time

. it's the victims themselves. there's a disconnect between what we are witnessing on social media versus what we're seeing on mainstream. it is always an attempt to frame a to side of them, but there is no 2 sides to this. the western media does have a western bias. understand what they are looking to stay out and raise the listening post covers how the news is covered. the challenges with pod hitting interviews is israel. it needs to go to pieces. i think that to move in the f one of these governments with this, this part that you say getting russell, a thought provoking on the e. you made weapons being used in guns. no guns should be used in an offensive way

. that's our facing realities. you're running mean what does he bring to the table? hard from the presidential? could we go to some we cannot take the effective use of the present as not anymore the effective he had the story on talk to how does era the the hello i'm about this and this is the news on life from dell ha, coming off in the next 60 minute sponsors holding the 2nd round of it's paul, i'm entry elections far. right. is hoping for us we think majority hospitals struggle to deal with the wounded in jobs. another is very so i kind of you and one school chose more than 16 people,

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