was telling me that sharing personal stories with a global audience, it's you who determine what the future we all collective we make always explode on a funded law class progress on which is 0. they left echo are saying it's influenced by foreign countries. now these here molly and bertina paso have set up their own block calling at the alliance of certain states, but what's behind their new agreement, and what impact will it have on the wider regions? this is inside sort the hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much i'm shown, molly protein and also and these year have come together to form the alliance of have states. each is ruled by a military john to and that's led to

a split from the larger west african regional block echo was the 3 military rulers have pledged to support each other against outside threats and internal security challenges. but can they find success by going it alone, or will the divided savvy region make regional challenges even more difficult to tackle? well, bringing, i guess in a moment the 1st this report from sent him on the 3 leaders united in their isolation chair, molly and for keen of fall. so have announced their withdrawal from echo was that was after the west african regional block suspended, then slicing the recent military takeovers. the 3 nations signed a security agreement last year to come to each other even case armed rebellion or foreign intervention. on saturday, they held their 1st meeting in the chair. oh, really woke up room. our people have turned the backs irrevocably on echo because it's now up to us to create the alliance of the health states. consideration the a b s. it's an alternative to any onto the visual regional grouping by building

a silver and community of people. see the 2nd in 2021. molly's military over through disability and government empties power that was followed by coo and berk unit fall. so in 2022. when the shares military followed suit in 2023 echo off from the military intervention. the 3 states by that together seem to tack on one would be considered an attack on all the military leaders of the newly formed alliance of so health states say they plan to work together to confront armed groups the past year receive hundreds of attacks across the region, thousands are dead, and millions are displaced. previously these states relied on france and the united states for military support, but relation to soured on accusations, frances, interfering, and their internal affairs. the french and american troops have been ordered to leave, and the 3 nations are now increasingly turning to russia. so continuing to

a 1000 for, for goods, the continent that is suffering continues to suffer due to imperialist, these imperialists have, but one key saying they had africa is an empire of slaves. that's how they view africa for them. africans belong to them. all land belongs to them. they've never been able to change their ways. so suddenly the echo off is also fighting, selling the same armed groups. it's seeking to form a dedicated security force. and it's also trying to bring molly new share and for clean up also back into its full because let me come up 510 of them in the us. i'm up participating by this way. the commission proposed the senator through as part of the council of ministers that came class might be under suspension. they should be allowed to take part in

meetings relating to security as well as insect toward our matrix. the military leaders of molly, the chair and breaking a fall, so relying on each other to remain in power. the test now is whether they can split from the rest of the region. well, still confronting common security challenges since monahan, l g 0 for inside story. the all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guess in bordeaux or one to share with a specialist, an advocate on forces who has been imbedded with military operations and camera room. and molly, in the workshop and my daughter without delay farm or foreign minister, a more tenea and president of the san jose harris security strategy center. and i was costume either mind permanent secretary of this, i had international solidarity for him. he specializes in japan to terry and, and development issues in the south region. a warm welcome to you all, and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story. all right, well let me start with you today. observer say the timing of the alliances that had

stage announcement and summit was deliberate. they say it's to show echo us the economic community of west african states that burkina faso molly and this year can do without the regional block. but is that realistic? i sent you very much uh giving this opportunity with the zip code. no, it is in 2 days and is it communication for them to continue doing should take care. oh, show me to enter. so please call me, i think, visiting to somebody out on this, but i think provide the cost and the put a ticket in economy and security situation. is that going to be the short of the security or the economy with the no, no king but uh is this is all i to

as to what you know people 16 of give you to me. i see what is behind us. so i don't think they, i think this point 6 with the going to be the origin but trying to put everything into court. uh to me is all to bear one. um, what does the establishment of this alliance the alliance of some other states? what does it mean for an already volatile region and what impact will it have on the wider region as well? uh, the science uh is its 1st and foremost intended to ensure the safeguard of each of these 3, regina switched to the top outcast with the rest of the region and of been suspended from eco was so uh, i think that the actual driver was really the concern other and it was really to intervention which faulty the development of these its alliance. and the statement

that an attack on any of the member countries would be an attack on. oh. and now they are trying to develop between 2 and 9. talk to reason mechanism. which is basically a refraining what existed before with the g 5 cell, which also included more returning and to and will likely include the intelligence sharing the, the possibility of fuel into positions. and also, you know, incursions pursue tribes when assuming the an on group into one of the neighboring countries or whether you can help turn the tides on the surveys in, in the, in security situation. but these are molly and routine are leaving is difficult to say because they have lost the thoughts of the novel is that they had a thanks to the 40 supporters where the united states with ease of france or, or the european countries which provided the transport ridiculous support training, so now they're, they're a lot more on their own. yes, there was russian support, but uh, that's a, that's,

it's too early to say whether that's effective in any way. and it's the support that uh, they have to pay for. so it's uh right now, the security situation has degraded significantly. we've seen a spot of a major defeats for the root canal benoit's area recently with hundreds of uh, soldiers sealed. so right now it's not taking good and it's quite a re to say whether the seller has to be able to improve this setting in any way. okay, so i'm from your vantage point. how easy or how difficult will it be for the alliance? if so have states to form some kind of whether it be economic agenda or whether it be security policies that will benefit the citizens of their country the next day that treats the patio table more time. yeah. to get it from the core and to be more exciting. i think he's been done most of the as well to see if it's possible for one of the country to be uh, this uh,

the country. so before on the, maybe to we are the speak, the same sort of the dc creation or some of the idea is since i last is the quote, the quote, the all the above 3 minutes each, the video, the what are these companies pay income most increase the, the, the, so on a new way, of course, the days people support from me for a sunday, unfortunately, according to janet july 26th at the, for the record, i'll decide to don't whether these are many which we know which kind of costs associated with the races and also uh at the same time, so they cmt showing by the display of the yeah, it's not because it was the display of the company's inside of the make

combined meets the location of the distorted key. because when do we start talking these yeah, the combo, but usually somebody under these kind of things or how does the please to the decision? so that's why i think, you know what they're going to do, like, what do you know about 2 months they will be the full on the inside. the try to do that to make the point, bryan, people wish in just a i never knew that under my the other ones with the i think this is something definitely right. and that must be yeah. to be for the on the table you have when we pull them up the to see the oh is this video under now you have 42nd to what was the people that. ready the page on of the previous person,

it's from woodson countries from cuz i think it easy to cushion on to dc the y. hm. oh, and uh, so quoting the company and the how the price to get it down to least um channel basically. i think 15. 0 did seduce me. yeah. you can come on more on the more difficult and uh, and some of the stuff related really dc area. okay, so i think, yeah, okay, so much, i'm sorry to interrupt you, but i want to get back to you about the point your menu items debility just a minute. let me go to do again. right now, do i want to ask you about the fact that we know that echo was suspended? molly burkina faso in the year after those respective military coups that happened in the past few years. uh, but you know, echo as also they impose sanctions on this year. and molly, but they've also, they've also indicated that they're initiating moves to, to bring these countries back into the fold. how do they hope to do that?

it was sent to me. uh, i think this makes it easy for the vehicle to do what it says. uh uh, 300 name is uh, pretty good position, but the 2nd call submitted the nauseous taking implementation of this is in which is even more difficult. but their goal was to do is to try to confuse one way of uh, the city to stay at the foot of the waste access to receive the, to madison. don't say they should be. so i'm not going to see why specifically because they don't talk to me. but at the same time, for me,

what is most important is the place in your country should go to the tennessee that the cheese is as to whether or not i suppose it is for the and they have to do to get access to the neighboring states we're going to call this is true specifically for the need. and so here's, here's what i think i'm the organization. i cover the communion, but they don't have mississippi's or cities to decision making. they have to remodel on fixing the trying to bring for a ticket. finished on the 17 is on the the, the national the constitution try to unite

the tape for all of the, with the, with the poor. the see if i saw the 72 is a busy in the country and we've got things going on with the what is going to be the better the more care. and there was going to air one of the military leaders of new jerry, malia burkina faso. they have ruled out returning to the echo us regional block. but from your perspective, is there anything that could change that that could bring them back into the fault? i don't really think the current regime will concede or rejoining echo was which they see as a enact into uh uh, i use the western inches with the fact that there was a is,

i mean even though there isn't any could. i mean, i'm wanting to re transition plans to planning still using the c a f f frank. so that's also viewed as an instrument of domination by phone. so i only see a return of any of these countries to request. if there was a receiving change, i don't really see it happening in the current regime unless it was or a country you turn in terms of outreach from like was to these countries. i think they're betting strongly on these sale states alliance to, to satisfy the needs. and we'll probably try to work out an individual deal with a one or more countries with the access to the c. we've seen that the, the, the develop, your relationship is to go. so the thought might be the country the, the in for when trying to get to an output to, to see, rather than being gauging uh to join back in a cost to consume i'd, molly burkina faso in his chair. they've regularly accused france of meddling,

and echo was how much did anti french sentiment impact the action that was taking the formation of this alliance? yeah, so i think uh uh, when it was part of the site to make a senshi against my id or you know, in the middle uh oh crap. the flow of my feet was around maybe the have a meeting before or something, and a so the position would be under the position for the airport sunday, created an air conditioning when, oh, that's why you see something that happened. but to the, to see, to see the easy the blue she just the easy. yeah. yeah. of course would be under to

be in the next one. this would be the one file company. it would not be easy for the vehicle, but i think i think some of the it's gonna be possible for them to the absurd inside request, but nearby remember that when they think she needed from me, it was on the. busy wrong is for the it will be in the can do um, how much will the creation of this alliance draw in non western powers like china and russia. i sent you. this is a very important question. as you know, shining uh, you know, for big couldn't disagree specifically to national relation and bucket. is that pretty sure they have been there since 1616. but

there's been got the they have the beds, a student there today, and middle management is having the equipment of the a data. and they also don't, they wouldn't say this is the case i'm working on. this being said, i have mentioned earlier, we are not envisioned, i feel comfortable with the do fish site to the input side. we discovered by if you look into that, if you look to see if you look for to some expecting. so the should be more the i go to check and with that, so send it to with easy access to menu, which is the biggest financial thing to do. but this supposed to be out of the condition that should be careful trying to

the 17 and put to new good on put back concrete, was a with the reduced to the sauce. but to finish this up soon, you're going to change this to remove that night. to kind of change it should be is that you know that you'll see the excess then you have to say it for 12 not to go. but keep the good thing access if it to turn it in. so could you uh, set it uh, might be difficult to if i had to put once by all the time. yeah. so my point is should be inside of the most of the 60s. uh and is not a citizen conference or so the gotcha should be

the way to december. this property is it just seems to be more oh uh, what kind of situation everyone um echo is has over the years provided troops and security to calendar the armed groups that operate in the region. what is the risk now that this split becomes more of a, of a power vacuum? i mean, does that increase the risk of a violence going forward, more violence from these armed groups operating the region if they perceive the split to be a power vacuum us uh, well, most, uh, the more likely thing is that the, even the security situation in these 3 countries which form the alliance degrades. there is an increased risk that these are in groups will be in a position to strengthen more aggressively neighbors for these countries,

whether it's chad for a more time. yeah. or toggle between, we've seen a tax already taking place, particularly in the even toggle, also some indications to in the gonna i think so think of the well so there is a, it's a reset. that if the security situation further degrades in the sales state alliance countries, then i'm going to be able to move expand area of operations and targeted other countries, whether the moving away from megawatts has any direct impact on the, the young. but you couldn't make implications resulting from the sanctions from the, from the, the, the disconnection or, and the difficulties in doing between the, of these 3 countries in their neighbors. and it might not be a direct consequence, but this whole crises of credit uh, and tension that has been ongoing since 2020 has definitely impacted security in

a negative way. and that alone is increasing the risk of uh, of a spread of, uh, uh, the army boots activities to other countries innovation costume. um, i want to talk more about some of the armed groups in the region on groups linked to outside that link to i. so they've jacket for control of territory in, in molly burkina faso and this year. how bad is the situation currently? and the think is this is not uh, is similar in some of the criteria and uh, on the whole i would like to just, i do want to continue on your quickly because in the completion on that easy uh, when maybe to decide on the obama supposed be under coming onto the 7 days. yeah. you saying went back to dish. we bought the somebody she went to my mother and the be going to need to become most of the dishonest. so the way i think

even the thinking that the solution we come from to create a folder and the kind of the, the, the, the place for p t r with that means the solution because the from the, from, so now we have to move it one way you see, so now the next night, correct? some in my the not this is usually the new. it's now the come from the, the big the, uh, competitive. what, uh, what type in for pizza. yes it is. the 2nd from the big, the big deal to be on the on the, to have some combined under join the suggestion. but on december to the bank. and uh, now we go see the list on the let me find the,

uh lennox is for. ready some reason on the excuse me, because the mac connected is done with me becoming a little more on the most wrong got on the, the i think still in individually and the, the class. that's no surprise. the one that you might have under the come make the share and at least to go back and much more. can you say that think that's what the great and these people the, the uh, with the diesel degree home branding be joining a quote that you missed on. because this went to uh, 3 or 4 years because what you would, because it might need you to have what else you have there may not help some what's, what's the word for them to come back together? so that's why you spend together because they have to be some they do

$73.00 of the companies on the publicity. i think this one is due to the end of the 6 for the coming month. oh yeah. oh i do. um, if i could just get your opinion on, on this uh, who has more to lose from the creation of this alliance going forward for, from your perspective ultimately, might it, we can echo us more or might it, we can molly new share and book you in a fossil more so this is again products course the news is that the city. oh very, very citizen. very well decide of looking, but i go to see, oh the it should give you the condition

version is no full quarter for veterans to or to see more minutes of migration with the uh, overseas to to y'all. so the uh, zip code please. because expensive quote. edition uh, which is, well, the, what i go to the station where seems to end up in the small to well working to unified values. if any of these kinds of situation have been tested, positive tendency to belong to go back to the type of system. mm. hm, so my, the, i saw a guide is the union. so the, the kind of what the weight is that just organization is not

able to bring to get the smoke. uh, it is by but one second for the zip code please. hm. and the multi point by point is that should be a tech have include, including what sort of sort of any bike or fine for a minute here to been. this is really good and it's going to be what some of this when you have a crisis in finishing that for one indian me. so i think that should do it because she can sit viruses but mississippi. yeah. i'm gonna do, i'm, i'm so i'm sorry to interrupt you but, but we, we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave the conversation there today. thanks so much to all of our guest, everyone to share as a, i'm

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