the confidence, brightest, illegal students putting minds against the best means in africa would really be interesting to see how we miss uh, gather together for tournament. unlike any other top me expressing maybe the apps we can cause a human and people. it's why is now invest in weakness for couldn't move on out is era they left echo are saying it's influenced by foreign countries. now these year molly and burkina faso have set up their own block calling at the alliance of certain states. but what's behind their new agreement and what impact will it have on the wider regions? this is inside sort the

hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much i'm shown, molly protein, if also and these year have come together to form the alliance of head states. each is ruled by a military john to and that's led to a split from the larger west african regional block echo was the 3 military rulers have pledged to support each other against outside threats and internal security challenges. but can they find success by going it alone, or will it divided savvy region make regional challenges even more difficult to tackle? well bring in our guess in a moment, the 1st this report from defense of them on the 3 leaders united in their isolation chair, molly and for keen of fall. so have announced their withdrawal from echo was that was after the west african regional block suspended. then slicing the recent military takeovers, the 3 nations signed security agreement last year to come to each other even case armed rebellion or foreign intervention. on saturday, they held their 1st meeting in the chair. oh,

really woke up room. our people have turned the backs irrevocably on. echo was, it's now up to us to create the alliance of the health states. consideration the a b s. it's amount sensitive to any onto the visual regional grouping by building a sovereign community of people. see the 2nd in 2021. molly's military over through disability and government empties power that was followed by coo and burkina faso in 2022. when the shares military followed suit in 2023. echo off threatened the military intervention. the 3 states bound to together saying the attack on one would be considered an attack on all the military leaders of the newly formed alliance of sal, health states, say they plan to work together to confront armed groups. the past year receive hundreds of attacks across the region. thousands are dead and millions are displaced. previously, the states relied on france and united states for military support. but relation to

this hour on accusations frances, interfering in their internal affairs, the french and american troops have been ordered to leave. and the 3 nations are now increasingly turning to russia. so punch in, not just also for, for kids, the continent that is suffering continues to suffer due to imperialists. these imperialists have, but one key saying they had africa is an empire of slaves. that's how they view africa for them. africans belong to them. all land belongs to them. they've never been able to change their ways. so solid parts in echo off is also 5 things done at the same armed groups. it seemed to form a dedicated security force, and it's also try and spring molly new share and for clean up also back into its full because the 5 ton of the m. the fibers i'm up participating by this way. the commission proposed, the sanity for the last part of the council of ministers rep can please might be

under suspension. they should be allowed to take part in meetings relating to security as well. ask in step toward i matrix the military leaders of molly, the chair and burkina faso are relying on each other to remain in power. the test now is whether they can split from the rest of the region. well, still confronting common security challenges. since monahan, l. g 0 for inside story the all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guests in bordeaux, or one to share as a specialist, an african on forces who has been imbedded with military operations in cameroon. and molly, in the workshop, how can i do it? or would i delay form or for administer more tenea and president of the san jose harris security strategy center. and i've got some of that i'm on permanent secretary of this i had international solidarity for him. he's specializes in japan

to terry and, and development issues in the south region. a warm welcome to you all and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story i heard you let me start with you today. observer say the timing of the alliance as that have states announcement and summit was deliberate. they say it's to show echo us the economic community of west african states that burkina faso molly and this year can do without the regional block. but is that realistic? i sent you very much uh giving this opportunity with this to go north in 2 days. is it communication for them to continue doing should take care. oh, show me to enter. so please come to me, i think visited to somebody out on this. but i think provide the closer name, the put a ticket, the economy and security situation. is that going to be the shouldn't be security

or the economic? no, no, no kidding. but this is all right, so as to what you know, people seeking of give to them. i see what is behind us. so i don't think they have, i think this point, so it shouldn't affect the, the going to be the origin but trying to put everything into court. uh, to me is all to bear one. um, what does the establishment of this alliance the alliance of how the states, what does it mean for an already volatile region and what impact will it have on the wider region as well? uh lisa lions uh is its 1st and foremost intended to ensure the safeguard of each of these 3 region switch to the top outcast with the rest of the region and of been suspended from eco was so uh,

i think that the actual driver was really the concern other and it was really to me and dimension which bolted the development of these, this alliance and the statement that an attack on any of the member countries would be an attack on. oh. and now they are trying to develop between 2 and 9. talk to reason mechanism, which is basically a refraining what existed before with the g 5 sale, which also you could be more returning to and will like into the intelligence sharing the, the possibility of joint operations. and also, you know, incursions pursue tribes when assuming the a and i'm group into one of the neighboring countries or whether you can help turn the tides on the surveys in, in the, in security situation. but these are molly and bertina are leaving is difficult to say because they have lost a thought of the novel is that they had uh, thanks to the uh, 14 uh supporters where there was the united states with the diesel friends or all

the european countries which provided the transport ridiculous support training so now they're, they're a lot more on their own. yes, there was russian support, but uh, that's a that's, it's too early to say whether that's effective in any way and it's the support that they have to pay for. so it's uh right now, the security situation has degraded significantly. we've seen a spot of a major defeats for the root canal benoit's or your recently with hundreds of, uh, soldiers steeled. so right now it's not taking good and it's quarterly to say whether the seller has to be able to improve this setting in any way. okay, so i'm from your vantage point. how easy or how difficult will it be for the alliance? if so have states to form some kind of whether it be economic agenda or whether it be security policies that will benefit the citizens of their country the next day that treats the patio table more time. yeah.

to get it from the core and to the what exactly i think he's been done with the 55. so to see if it's possible for one of the above country to be uh this uh, the country. so before, under the, maybe to we are the speak, the thing sort of the front of the dc creation or some of the idea is since i last is the quote, the all the above the minutes each, the video, the what are these companies pay the increase the, the, the so on but knew what the cost of these people support from me for sunday. unfortunately, according to janet july 26th. i think for the, for the title, the weather need which we know which kind of questions easy to create the

race and also uh, i just sometimes dmc showing by the, by the yeah, it's not because it wasn't much possible for the display of the companies inside of the departments i had to make to get a combined bt or ration under the standard. because when do we start talking to jackie combo? but if you need somebody under these kinds of things, you don't have to stop up in us on the please. so this is the situation, so that's why i think, you know what they're going to do, like what do you know about 2 months ago the, the full and the been. so i did try to get back to point bryan and meet people wish in just a i never knew there might be other ones where the i think this is something definitely right. and the must be the of the table. you have a total of the to see the car. oh,

in this video under now you have 4050. so what would you see the page on of the previous person? it's from woodson countries, but when it comes to the ocean on to dc, the wire. mm. hm, oh, goodness and uh, supporting the company and the how the price to get it down to least um channel basically. i think 15 years did you choose somebody to come on more on the more difficult and then somebody to you stuff relating to you? yeah. okay. so i think, yeah, okay, so my, i'm sorry to interrupt you, but i want to get back to you about the point you're making writing stability in just a minute. let me go to do again right now. um, do i want to ask you about the fact that we know that echo was suspended? molly burkina faso in the year after those respective military coups that happened in the past few years. uh, but you know,

echo as also they impose sanctions on this year and molly, but they've also, they've also indicated that their initiating moves to, to bring these countries back into the fold. how do they hope to do that? it was sent to uh, i think it is much easier for the vehicle to do what it says. uh uh there is no, nothing is uh, pretty decent position. but the 2nd call submitted the noise is taking the position of decision which is even more difficult. but their goal was to do is to try to confuse why the press 3 to stage, the foot of the waste access to receive the to madison. i'm sorry they shouldn't do this for no good. i see why

it's presented because they don't have to make but at the same time, for me, what is most important is the place in your warranty. should go to the tennessee. the cheese is as to whether or not i suppose it is for the and they have to do to get access to the neighboring stage on football. this is true especially for the need. and so here's, here's what i think i'm the organization i kept for the communion, but they don't have mississippi's or cities to decision making. they have to remodel on fixing the trying to break for a ticket. finished on the 17 is also due to

the national constitution try to unite the domestic pro the with the with the courts. the see if i saw there is call 72 is a big country and we've got things going on with the what is going on need to be the better, the more care there wants to go into the air. one of the military leaders of new jerry, malia burkina faso, they have ruled out returning to the echo us regional block. but from your perspective, is there anything that could change that that could bring them back into the fault? i don't really think the current regimes will consider rejoining echo was

which the c as a enact into a uh by use with student interest with the fact that the, the ticket was uh, is, i mean even though there isn't any could. i mean, i'm wanting to re transition plans the plans to using the c a f f frank. so that's also viewed as a, an instrument of domination by phone. so i only see a return of any of these countries to request if there was a reason even change. i don't really see it happening in the current regime unless it was a complete you turn in terms of outreach from michael was to these countries. uh, i think the bedding strongly on these uh, sales dates, alliance to, to satisfy the needs and will fully try to work out an individual deal with a one or more countries with access to the c. we seeing that the, the legal up your relationship is to go for the, the, that's might be the country the, the in for when trying to get to announce that to see rather than being gauging to

join back in a cost to consume. i'm molly burkina faso in this year. they've regularly accused france of meddling and echo was how much did anti french sentiment impact the action that was taken the formation of this alliance? yeah, so let's do that because i, i think uh uh, when it was quite a dump he decided to make a century against my new york. you know, in the middle that uh oh, brass, the floor my seat was around maybe the meeting before or something. and also the position would be under 10 positional government for the position of airport sunday created an air conditioning we when oh, that's why you see something that happened but to the the see to see

the need anything the completion of the machine. yeah. yeah. of course would be under to be in the next one. this would be the one file company. it would not be easy for the for i think i might have somebody, it's gonna be possible for them to observe inside request, but to nearby. remember that when they think she needed from me was on the. busy wrong is for the, it will be any time to do um, how much will the creation of this alliance draw in non western powers like china and russia. cindy, this is a very important question. as you know, shining. uh, you know,

big credit is pretty sufficient. its international relations and bucket is that pretty sure they have been there since 66 please. and but it has been got the they have the benefits in there today. menissi renewed my the my data and they also don't able to say this is it looks like the bottom of the vs bank said i had mentioned earlier, we got a full code to the defect side. tricity if it said we should look into that. if you look to see if you look for to some expecting, so the shouldn't be more, but the i go to check and with that,

so send a truck with easy access to menu. you're just the biggest financial realty, but the supposed to be out of the conclusion that shouldn't be careful to try to the 17 and put to good on the back concrete was a, with the some of the sauce. but since you are you going to change this to something i can kind of change it should be, is that you know that you'll see the excess then you have to say it for 12 not to go what cannot, why we have good access if it to turn it in, so could you uh, set it uh might be difficult to assess him once by the time. yeah. so my point is should be inside of

the motor vehicle for 60. so i'm just learning about is not a citizen, i am convinced or so the i'm not sure it shouldn't be too long. i'm not going to this everybody's piece of property is it just seems to be more oh uh, what kind of situation the air one um echo is, has over the years provided troops and security to counter the arm groups that operate in the region. what is the risk now that this split becomes more of a, of a power vacuum? i mean, does that increase the risk of a violence going forward, more violence from these arm groups operating the region? if they perceive the split to be a power vacuum as well, most of the more likely thing is that the, even the security situation in these 3 countries which form the alliance degrades,

there is an increased risk that these are in groups will be in a position to strengthen more aggressively neighbors for these countries, whether it's chad for a more time. yeah. or toggle between and we've seen a tax already taking place, particularly in the evening to go also some indications to in the gun a, a thoughtful thing could 0. so there is a, it's a reset that if the security situation further degrades in the sale, state alliance countries, then i'm going to be able to move expand area of operations and targeted other countries, whether the moving away from megawatts has any direct impact on the, the young body, you cannot make implications resulting from the sanctions from the, from the, the, the disconnection or, and the difficulties in doing between the, the, these 2 countries in their neighbors. and it might not be

a direct consequence, but this whole crises of credit uh and attention that has been ongoing since 2020 has definitely impacted security in a negative way. and that alone is increasing the risk of uh, of a spread of, uh, uh, the army boots activities to other countries innovation costume. um, i want to talk more about some of the armed groups in the region on groups link to outside that link to i. so they've jockey for control of territory in, in molly burkina faso and this year. how bad is the situation currently? and so i think it is not uh, is the criteria and uh, on the whole i would like to just do one thing before we continue on your quickie. because in the completion on that easy uh, when maybe to decide on the obama so cozy under coming onto the 7 days. yeah. you

soon went back to the guess we bought the somebody she went to madison, but that does something on the vehicle. she needs to become most of the looking at this time. so the way i think even the thinking that the solution we've gone wrong to create a folder and the kind of the, the, the, the place for p t r was that was the solution. because the from the, from so now we have the one way you see, so now the next night, correct. i mean it might be on the not this is jason the new it's now the come from the, the big the, uh, competitive. what uh, what type do. 450. yes. the 2nd from the big. yeah. the do you have to be on the

on the to have some combined under join literally suggestion, but i just came to the bank. and uh, now we go see the list on the let me find the, the, uh lennox is for the television. and the, because the mac connected is done with me becoming a little more under more frank got done the, the, i think still in individually and the, the place that the probably the one that you might have under the can come make the shower on the lease to go back and manual on the right and these people, the, the uh, with the diesel degree home branding, the joining a quote that i missed on. because this went to uh, through your employer be what you would because it might be you have immediate

health. what else you have the united health some combined together. so that's why the dates are gonna be some decent. maybe 3 uh around the companies on the publicity. i think this one is due to the end of the month. oh yeah. oh, there is a fee. i do um, if i could just get your opinion on on this, who has more to lose from the creation of this alliance going forward for, from your perspective ultimately, might it, we can echo us more or might it, we can molly news year and became a fossil more so cool pictures of the products. course the news is that a c o v, a very citizen pretty well decided looking but i go to

see, oh the, it should sort of give you the condition. very sure is no full quarter for writers to so we move into those migration with the uh, overseas the tool to yeah. so the uh, zip code please. because an expensive option. uh, which is, well, the, what i go to the station where to send a small to uh, working to unified values, if any of these guys should have been tested, positive tendency to buy, to go back to the private system. mm hm. so i saw

a dentist uh union. children on the go was come with waiting in the organization is not able to bring to get the smoke. uh, which is fine. but one second for the zip code please. uh, the multi point by point is that should be a tech have been including what sort sort of the coin right mine from minnesota to benny. this is what's a good time. it's going to be watson is when you have a crisis inversion. like for one me or is it so the detection um it was tested viruses but mississippi. yeah. i'm gonna do i'm,

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