you know, the, [000:00:00;00] the color on sale rama deal. what email does the reviews on life, my headquarters here in the hall coming up in the next 60 minutes. the 90 palestinians including children are killed and it is really, it's called a designated site. so israel says the target was the head of how boss is military wake, but copy. so that's a pretty was killed in the strike. we have the worst government in the world. that's why we're here. we want the government probably to submit even this would be

all who are gonzales to continue the war eve. this is really, really about his resignation, supposes of republican presidential candidate, double trust, call waiting for him to speak as a campaign valley of the key battleground states. and pennsylvania to be life event plus the on malcolm web in my baby, my place of the firing to got angry crowds of residents and encourage them to uh, interior i said about the number of bodies found just here and it, this is quite the welcome to the news as well as car without yes, another definitely a ton of called the location is repeatedly designated as a safe sighting concept. just days ago it's military drop leaf let's altering thousands of pounds to the is to flee garza city. it told him to go to the wasi claims. the target was the head of her bus has been the tree wing. instead,

at least 90 displaced, palestinians was slowly set up to fight to get some tribes. all dismissals and bulbs pounded that tens and all the wasi. i circled sites i was off to as well as private disability, but not to be all. he says, there's no set to take. the how boss is lee that was killed. now the bodies of it isn't published, it is a plan to go. many of them children, that's with yahoo is about to continue the war to achieve his go back to what the cost to about to civilian death told. how do you by the begins on coverage of data by law in central garza the aftermath of what palestinians are describing as one of the words is radius toxins. israel's war and dogs that began bodies lies scattered across the ground level mo awesome and area and south west wing dogs. on that israel assured people would be

a safe zone. emergency workers and civil defense. the crews are among the injured witnesses, say they were targeted by various forces as they try to hold the windows and decide what the needs were facing serious challenges in reaching the effect of diarrhea and the injured especially due to lack of fuel and proper equipment. really fighter jets and drones armed with missiles and bombs. it struck rows of dense with 1000 of displays. families were showtime. the search continues for any sign of life. we was sitting in the tent, nothing was happening. so to me, rocket fell on us. i still trojan in pieces one after another hundreds of injured people are brought the mazda hospital in time. you visit us. the 1st most sounds was fired like rain towards us. there was a minute between each missile they find too many missed,

solves that the people of the why the strike. we with all my was a safe side with israel limited humanitarian, a deliveries, doctors and dogs. i have a few supplies or medicine to treat the hundreds injured. we started receiving good tens of cases and a few minutes later we are suffering from lack of supplies under the stomach. we are merely enough of uh, everything inside that is really monetary claim. the target of the attack was the scene or how much military commander, how much they, but how much case the claim falls and saves defenseless civilians were killed on an area that was designated as a humanitarian area. funerals take place for those whose bodies have been recovered and those who survive there is no where safe to go hunting my mode. i was just the central ga, the palestine,

the 2 bays and emergency medicine dr. he's working on a field hospital. they were, those strikes took place, the people are describing essentially the ground turned upside down on individuals or digging people out of the ground. most of the hospital is just seized operations, aside from what they've received. and we're anticipating people's arrival. it takes almost 30 to 40 minutes for the ambulances to come here. so we're prepping, hoping there aren't too many more casualties. we're very experienced in the snow, because we saw the multiple mass casualty incidents including a large one last month with on the site. all we received about 200 was that 150 and to just say that to

50 straight to an operator. and you know, this is just one of many cool ways that this population is being systematically targeted and killed off. it's uh there everybody. so exhausted and people are afraid, all the people are living and search for conditions that you cannot even imagine and to target them and to kill them. and, you know, i heard stories of people being dug up from under the sand because of how powerful the explosions were. um, it's just so cruel you you, you know, you wonder to yourself how the world is still silent and standing idle and not doing anything to stop these atrocities. what will it take? um, what has to happen for people to take a stand and take action?

let's take you to the us now as well. stage of pennsylvania buckler with double trump. the republican candidate for the presidency is speech risk assessment. our country's been, the judge has been stolen from us. you see that the greatest or great is crimes, is what they've done over for years and hiding what the obvious facts are. is that how did you say you're run for your run? for the president of the united states, from a basement, from a basement. it was very dishonest stuff, but you know, we're going to have the greatest selection. i tell you what we did fantastically in 2016. we did much better in 2020. you know, we did much better that it was rig there was a rent deal, but we just much better. but it's nothing compared to the enthusiasm all over. not just in pennsylvania all over is nothing compared to the of those years of that we've seen over the last year because i mean a year think of a year and a half ago,

it started. it really started from immediately after the election. you want to know the truth, but year and a half ago we were seeing crowds of people desperate to have rallies desperate to have anything to take back our country. we're going to take it back next week. the republican party will hold its convention in milwaukee, wisconsin, and 5 days from now, we will officially accept the republican nomination for president. right now we're going to get a good sunday and i'll tell you, you have a real stiff, right? don't know if it's easiest, if you know your current senate, i've never met them. i don't think i've ever met them. i was only there for years, but i don't think i ever met them. i'll tell you that just send it a votes with bite. know whoever happens to be for those last we got to get them. i liked it a form it we got again,

mccormick pressed by for me. it's a good man. do. he's a, he's a valued fighter. he's a great, great gentleman. so we're going to bring them up for the show. we bring them up for a couple of minutes. all right, you get ready, my car make you get ready. i'll get you up. you to the world to see if i've been republican party that is bigger and stronger. more confident. are you not the board? that's what we are with the most united party that oh, i see. you know, it's, i'm watching the fake do's go crazy because this thing, the republican party has not been united since ronald reagan. like, it is right though it was united under ronald reagan the 2nd time it was very united. and they said there's never been anything like it, they've never seen a movement like this. make america great. again. you know, joe, by director of all we have to stop mega, mega means make america. great. again, joe, make america gravel go. that's all we want to do. if he was doing the job,

i wouldn't even be doing this. i'd be a beautiful place with a gorgeous ocean, the mediterranean deadlines, it's maybe the pacific. thank you. thank you and said i met with you by didn't know i tell they get a senator elected. and to make sure we take back the white house, because if we do, we're going to make america better than ever before. we're going to make it. and it's not easy, because we have millions and millions of people in our country that shouldn't be here. dangerous people, criminals, we have criminals. we have drug dealers. we have people that should not be here. ad, it's much tougher than if it happened. the, you know, we had the strongest border ever and reported history with the best border. in fact, if they could have a put up a chart, i don't know if they can do, do you guys have access to that?

just that i love so much. you don't mind if i go up the teleprompter, do you for the seller product is there. so damn boring, i try and explain that. oh it is. wow. you guys are doing a fidget better with time. my guys take a look at that, just take a look, the arrow and the bottom. see the big right? red arrow. right? so that's what i left off is that was the lowest point and that comes right from the government services comes right out of border patrol. take a look at that. so that arrow is the lowest amount of illegal immigration ever in recorded history into our country. and then and then the worst president to the history of our country took over and look what happened to our country. probably 20000000 people. and you know, that's a little bit all that's your, that's your, it's a couple of months old. and if you want to really see something this said, take

a look at what happens the, the new the

media doesn't. so i gotcha. let me get my shoes. so we're going to the

the you what you have to say are in the, in the last few minutes as going from uh, the prism to republican candidates took to the podium as a reilly in buckler in pennsylvania is wish to weigh in his motorcade when shots were fired in the vicinity of hays like ton um for a moment we weren't quite sure what the status of donald trump was. but um to personnel was soon, uh, surrounding the stage, his personal body, god, uh, certainly control the situation in terms of where he was to make sure that he was ok. then they formed

a circle around him. they took him off stage. again, we didn't know what the state of this donald trump was until he came into view, punching the with his fist with the crowd shouting, usa usa. he's that huddled into that full by full the vehicle with a way we don't sure what the status is of who fired. ah, that's what a gun was that the revolver was a pistol. we don't show whether it was blank. so lines i knew they should. we, i'm not sure, but as you can see now from the pictures his medicaid is now leaving the venue of the butler where many thousands of trump support is a guy that, hey, he told about him accepting the republican nomination to fight the presidency and lives and this yeah,

obviously many people stunned by what they've just seen. the doesn't seem to be anybody injured at the baby, but it just seems that there was a lot of screaming gulf shouting. and people i think and chocolate what they've just seen and not sure what to trust them to come from. so let's close over to john head to the correspondence. he's also, uh you said you, john, you are outside the video. don't show whether you can see the boat to page moving, or whether you had those shots, the tool, but obviously the pictures with chevy and all of a sudden, dorians on an empty stage, with donald trump, with the way, seemingly ok, and don't touch by what happened within the last few minutes, that's right to helen. if you look behind me, these people are rushing out of that venue. they were of course,

inside windows. a parent shots were fired. what's happening now is everybody is packing up and watching out of here. they do not want to be in this area with that kind of a potentially still existing threat going on. we don't know what's happened to what seems to has been a gunman. trump appeared to be ok, is the secret service. we're walking him out of the venue covering him at every possible angle. it did seem like he might have had a mark on his face. not clear if maybe he was hurt on his way. cummings, falling down and when he was hiding behind that, how would you? but you can see out here, there is something close to pan if people are coming by yelling if there's a shooting and they're on their way out of here. so hell, so from now we just, we have to wait and find out what happened if it got to me what happened just to be a former president. trump, again, who seems to be physically ok. a job. i think we have to crawl view as also

informed them as well, but that was a huge security detail about just the wrong jo gourd from generally about a road eddie full of presidents. they do have a lifetime security around that, or they would have actually looked at that very carefully to see whether it was safe enough for him to take to the stage. and anybody going into the new, i presume where you are. you must have seen some sort of security as people who wanted to see him and him told, would have gotten through that the drive there was security on the way in is there always is in a presidential event, you're not allowed to carry a backpack. you're not allowed to carry, you know, a number of any kind of bag really and that's because the former president was in there and people were, you know, the concern is that there might be some threat posed to him in there. he's always surrounded by secret service, and those were the people you saw surrounding him as

a took him away. that's of course their primary mission is to protect their their clients, presidents, former presidents, other people who are designated by those people. um, so the yeah, security was really intense in here and there were a magnetometers secret service here. so how someone might have gotten a weapon in there. it is really hard to say. they wouldn't have been able to get it through the front door. that is for certain, but this is a big venue. they were thousands and thousands of people in there, it's outdoors. so obviously somebody got something in there. sounded very much like shots fired. and again, we have to say it appears that the former president is all right, but i'm hearing people screaming here and you can just see the rush to get out to

him. indeed again and you know, we're just looking at the images of what happened just a few moments ago, joan. and it does seem that when those shots were fired, whether they were life or blank, we don't know. but the president seemed to bend down very quickly, didn't seem that he was actually hates. and of course we saw him walk on stage with his secure, with the details surrounding came it like a in the wall of steel you might say until they could get him to his vehicle. sadly, and historically, america was no stranger to the presidential candidate. so presidents being shot j, f, k, ronald reagan. i mean there was a history of this sadly. so yes, absolutely. and it's a, it's a history because of the relationship that america has with the guns. it's easy to get them. the, the 2nd amendment has been ruled by the supreme court to protect the individual,

right, to own guns house. and we've got one in there. i have no idea. but there's, yeah, there's a very long history of assassination in this country. and it seems fortunate that the former president was not the victim of this evening, but we really don't know what condition he is and he just appears well, so hell. but this could have been much worse. it appears indeed of course, i'm sure it will literally be hearing from political voices on both sides of it, both extremes of the political dis, for in the us. it only then goes perhaps to show that that will be most security around these events. as we had towards the conventions in a few weeks time as close to can the, the republican convention next week. but now security around donald trump and definitely security around the president, joe biden is going to be heights and those officials will fighting and buying full

seats and winning elections locally will also be we reevaluate and security that's right, with a republican national convention coming on monday you can bet that security will be even tighter than it already is. and it's, it's dreams right now. i live in chicago with the democratic national convention will be, i can tell you that, that security, there has been a very, very intense. but you can be sure that that is going to grow even more intense. there will be strong limits. one expects on what protesters can do in the access to any of these candidates now is going to have to be, is going to have to be restricted more. you can expect that donald trump, in particular, you know, who does these huge rallies with thousands and thousands of people will not want to be exposed like that. again, a also worth noting that he is

a very strong supporter of the individual right to bear arms. it'll be interesting to see if this changes his policies at all. indeed, john, we know you're looking to go too far away. we'll leave it as to now. uh, we'll come back to in a little while, but we can join a bumper, perry, professor in presidential studies at the university of virginia joins the staff in charlottesville, in virginia. it has to, besides miss perry that all conversation was going to be about what it's going to be like to be president. and what type of vice president's might double trump choose the events of taking a tub in a different direction. i just want to get your reaction to what perhaps you've seen and what you've heard. my heart is skipping a be i have to tell you honestly, um i think i think i'm okay but i, i just it's a collection of that and, and my stomach to be honest with you because i have to report, i'm old enough to remember when president kennedy was shot and killed in dallas and 1963. and i'm thinking back to

a presidential candidates who had our victims of assassination attempts and was successful. robert kennedy and 1968, the president's brother, a gun down in los angeles at the height of victory avoiding the california primary that night. and so, and so i just, it takes it flashes the back to that, and i'm just sorry that this is a, as you all said, this is the street in america. and it is because of america's love affair with guns and weapons and violets. indeed, it will be interesting to see what the fallout is politically and the comments that come out from the political spectrum, i presume that it will be all the same page and condemning exactly what's going on . we'll proceed to the pub betrays, or what's happened, whether it was live, file or blanks. but at the end of the day, as you say, it's all about america's love, a sine wave guns. and this will become now much, perhaps

a halter top pick of the halted debates as we head towards november, the 5th. so i think it will, and i think just again, the topic of not just guns, but violence in america, violence in, in, in politics. who knows what the details are here, but i had that sense of, of clutching my heart in my abdomen because i was listening live to the former president speech and getting ready to comment with you about the importance of pennsylvania. and when he stopped, suddenly i did not have a a screenshot so i could see, and i, i just thought, oh no, no, please don't have this happen. and so on. it can, maybe this will be something that will help us as a country to be more united and less fraud. i hope so. that is my home, but i've been hoping that my whole life time and these kinds of things can continue to happen. we have more analysis to do with you. uh, barbara in the next few minutes, but we got about 12 correspondent job heading jordan,

cuz i think he can actually speak to somebody who witnessed what happened. joan, how you are way back with you in butler and i believe you do have a di witness. i do this is kathleen. my not my lot. my lot. my apologies. kind of who was inside at the time and let's just ask her what she saw. and what did you see kathleen? i can hold it. well, um i was kind of in the back, thanks me to god. and i had just asked someone standing next to me to take a photo of me with president trump in the background. and he took 2 or 3 photos and then suddenly a whole body of shots went off and we knew immediately what it was. and the man who was taking my photo, it said that doesn't sound good. and then immediately after that, people started to run. some people started to get down on the ground. nobody really knew what to do. and our 1st thoughts were, you know, as president trump. ok. and then i heard as we were going out that they shot the shooter,

and i don't know how he could have ever or she could have ever gotten into the valley because that they had excellent security. but let me ask you about that. what, what, what security do you do? go through. i went through one of those doorways, you know, magnetometers, hector, metal detectors. i had put everything in putting my car keys, you know, on the table next to me, my credit cards, my license so you know, nothing went in with me that and you know, people, i guess people really didn't expect that this was gonna happen, you know, but um it was uh it's unbelievable really is unbelievable. could you see? did the president look okay to you before i present far away and of course people started to panic so i really couldn't see what was happening on the stage. but again, our 1st thoughts, everybody's 1st thoughts were, is the president okay. and uh you said that uh you had heard that the gunman, presumably a gunman, wasn't too far from the, which was the shot. i heard that he was shot. someone was on there.

weird at the shot just here to come from the right to my right. and it wasn't to be in the back of the arena. yeah. it wasn't too too close to the sound like it was pretty far back. is there any reason to believe that anybody else was hurt? there were several shots that sounded like yes, there was a 100 all the hard. nobody was hurt until but um, there were a lot of shots. right. we did see an ambulance back there with flashing lights. um, any other observations about what you saw in there? um no, just as the police were really well organized and directed people out, you know, and it was very orderly. and um, you know, people were not like hysterical just more angry and very concerned about you know, so again,

we have to take this country back. i just can't believe that this is happening. you know, so close to home. well i want to thank you for talking to us kathleen and being here. i'll thank you for having us by the way. thank you. i. we will. we appreciate hearing that. i know you might wanna leave as everyone else wants to be a little safer. so i think i need to my, my, my family is pretty concerned, so thank you so much. thank you. take care. take care. i think we do have another yes. if. if we have time here. hi, i'm john. can i ask your name? nice to meet you on tracy, tracy. what happened? let me just stand over here so people can see you are not killers. we were upfront . and um, he was watching and we knew we were watching the sharpshooters cuz we were at the riley last time. that's when we knew that he was come in and we pay attention to that. and he had noticed and, and he's like, look, the searchers are doing something. it looked like it came from be on. it looked like it came from outside of this perimeter is, is what it looks like. and then the shots were fired and everybody got down. we

were right outside of the main thing. we were closed. i mean, and i just want run and we, you know, made sure is he okay, he pop back up and then somebody said he has lived and i don't know, but yeah, we looked like you might have had a mark on his face. did you see that his praise? okay. yeah. my husband dead but yeah, if i just praise okay, this is a plan to tax. i mean it was, it's the last stop when the rally. i i and i'm, and i'm sorry, i mean, nobody wants this to happen. how this isn't time where that happened. you're from here. yeah, yeah, we live here. so this isn't a place where that happens. did you see where the gunshots came from, or what was him? he was here. it would be to the right of him, other states, but it looked like it was beyond the fence, is what it looked like. so and the way the start tutors, when they were shooting and then the ones that were on this i were shooting across as well. so. so there was return fire. yes, it looked like it. yeah. that may account for the number of shots that we heard. so that's what it appeared so well, thank you for talking to us. you have a great you too. well, and that is the,

the story that we're hearing from the people who come out to the president. the former president did appear to be all right. there's some question as to whether he had a minor injury about it, but people are saying that you appeared okay when he went out, that's what i saw on the screen when i was watching it as well. but people are definitely scared and they're fleeing. and apparently one thing we learned here is that some of those many shots that we heard those were return shots from security here. possibly the secret service don't really that we know that you'll be starting by for us and speaking to people who are leaving the venue right now. let's pretend about to bumper, perry professional. we don't care about to barbara. we all just go to just summarize exactly what's happening. obviously it's very fascinating story. at the moment we're trying to get all facts and figures full in

a row as i say. so trump was speaking about legal immigration when they shots was and he was seen ducking his that night with again that she likes a couple of months old. and if you will want to really see something this said, take a look what happens off to the well, that was the scene when day shots were fine, and barbara perry joins us again. professor in presidential studies at the university of virginia, from charlottesville in virginia. and barbara, i've just managed to perhaps look at that image again, the whole sequence. just as those shots with 5, it looks like the full, the president sort of took his hand toward says the, as if somebody had grazed it to not could be perhaps the scenario where people say that was maybe

a little bit of luck. all he may have full of it back in his head as he wouldn't that we don't know yet. we'll get those details later. the live pictures that we're seeing is that helicopters are now around. that's how are you and people are leaving? this is not exactly how we would have walton said, his, his final right of the before the republican convention to of ended. but it has end date in a way that is going to be so controversial and create so much debate. not just about guns at about security, but about donald trump, the man himself. as indeed and as if we needed more drama in this 2024 presidential election. and the descriptions of, of the former president's hand coming up. and again, it just flashes me back to president kennedy in the motorcade and 1963 and raising his arms. who were the 1st shot? good, and then and sadly,

the fatal shot or hearing about presidential candidate. i can remember 1972, george wallace, the controversial segregation as a former governor of, of alabama. and he was at a rally running for the democratic nomination. 72. ready when he was fail, find as fast as bullet was not killed, but he was paralyzed from the waist down for the rest of his life. so again, this is far too common in american history, and it will, will stand by the easy we hope of course the candidate is okay. and we hope that all will remain safe going forward. yeah, the pictures we're seeing now, very empty venue, which has screwed all over the place. i think chas and billboards. we things stay true because obviously now in charge of the area, we presume they'll be friends, accessed somewhere along the line. a whole range of sites got some of the images should i say a lot the public called see right now we're getting lots of different feeds from many of the domestic us channels as well as the international ones and all right,

and i'll just share of that too, in terms of the security now route donald trump, as you say, you know, this presidential race doesn't need any more drama that we've already seen in the past 7 days. you might say, but it looks like we're heading for a lot more as well. it does and, and again, of course i, i'll piece, all right, thinking people want both candidates to be, well i and indeed it seems they will be officially made the candidates of their party. so we want them to remain well and fit and fit enough to run and serve as president, whichever one is selected in november. but i also think of the assassination attempt on ronald reagan just after each of the office and 1981. and it appeared that he was not injured. he was pushed into a legacy in washington. and on the way back to the white house, the secret service agent noticed some blood coming from his mouth and turned out he was in a really difficult situation where a bullet had almost here's the art, here's as long as he was bleeding out. and on a rise velocity flood,

once we got into the hospital, thank goodness stabilized him and released the bullet. but i remember that day very well in addition. so we have to hope that this, when people are seen in this way, that the former president seemed to be okay. maybe some sort of glancing mood or, or just hitting the podium or, or the, the secret service. but i do think there's one of the why witnesses said, boy, we need to take america back. that does worry b, i, you know, this is, this is not really all of america, the violence and in this kind of political violence, it's always as often a lone wolf as they say. so maybe one person who has the psychological problem. this is not america. i and so this concept of we have to take america back is, is a bit jarring to me to have someone say that, but that may be the result. and so in addition to assume that the boat, this may actually work in the favor of the former president. indeed,

i mean talking as we just heard with the john had to not correspondent who's the 2 eye witnesses. they obviously were talking about salts, very close to the sage and the 10 fi given by the um, uh, security services that were in the vicinity. it raises this whole question now about security around not just the presidential candidates, but the candidates at state level as well as they go about looking for votes as they go about come the thing is they go about doing what they really would say. they love to do, which is to go out there and speak to the people and say, please vote to me, i want to represent you in november. and this is going to raise lots of questions at various levels now, isn't it? because each state behaves in a very different way when it comes to securing and keeping safe the political candidates as well. they do. and that's our federal system. a system of federalism,

where we have 50 states and we have 50 different approaches to the law in those days. and as you say to security, you just mentioned the state police of pennsylvania. now surrounding the side of this terrible event. those are not governed by the president or the f, b i or the federal bureau of investigation. they are state police, we have local police, we have local sheriff's and given the culture of any individual state. and for that matter, the desires of the candidate. president kennedy in 1963 writing in an open car through the streets of dallas, texas, where people were standing on buildings. and it turns out at least one shooter that we know me all was in the building just above the president and was able to fire the single shot. but kennedy didn't want secret service agents on the running boards of his limousine because he said i wanted people to see me. so in addition to this history of political violence, we also have a history of what we call the personal president and candidates for all offices as

well as the president and the presidency. think that if people can see them and they have that one to one relationship with them, but they will be elected and they will be successful and they're not incorrect in that. but sometimes chances have been taken when, when they shouldn't be. and oftentimes we don't know what the danger is, as with reagan sprague and just the exit the hotel and washington wave to the crown and were shot. now in that same hotel, they built the garage outside that door. so when presidents come and go from that venue, which they do frequently speak, they come through a garage area where a crowd can't see them. but again, the irony is, and the tension is presidents want to be counted as want to be seen. indeed they do . we will of course, keep in touch with you, i think over the next few hours today. barbara probably is be good to speak to. thanks very much for your time. let's go to ellen fisher join us from milwaukee, wisconsin. then island. i think nobody expected face to happen just wants to get your reaction. knowing that we are leading to the buildup of the republican

convention. it's going to take all the very different tow it isn't test. but let's start with what, what we know that the, the former president is safe. he is being secured by secret service agents. they have taken him away from the scene in a vehicle. his exact condition isn't entirely clear, but you saw blood on his face after those shots were fired. we also know that president biden has been informed by of stuff old events, just though you say pittsburgh in the last half hour, and he will continue to be brief by what is going on. my understanding is the intention is that he will place a call to the former president is sometime in the very near future here in the walk . you the preparing, of course, for essentially total comes coordination as the republican presidential candidate come thursday, is due to address as the whole at that point security is already building up here.

it is now going to be increased significantly because of what has happened in the last few hours and the last hour. in fact i and so we can expect to see a lot more security. it'd be a lot more difficult for people to get through the security check points for everything to slow down. and perhaps even the court and around the whole with the convention will be held to be expanded even further. we know that at least 3 play lloyd's of secret service agents and the equipment arrived in milwaukee just in the last few hours. so they've called in reinforcements from the number of surrounding states, including indiana to help increase the security level. here it is possible that those numbers in the coming hours will be increased even further, particularly, as i say, as donald trump is scheduled to speak to the republican convention, make his acceptance speech come thursday evening. of course, milwaukee itself, as you say, you know, it is,

it has an intense security presence already around it. again, you know, with double trouble, you know, this condition unknown to the but, but we, we think he's okay with say some minor injuries. so how is this going to be received by the republican party? i mean, how will they deal with the fact that the candidates need, he lost his life, potentially? or it's not surprising that the finger pointing is already started on social media and you would expect that. but we know that the temperature in american politics has been boiling for some considerable time. we've had democrats seeing that if donald trump was elected in 2024, it would be the end of the united states. we have had a democratic public and say, joe, by no means the end of america as we knew it if he is allowed. another 4 years that many, many times politicians, it'd be one to tone down the rhetoric born,

but there could be the potential of violence that someone, me, well try to take matters into their own hands. and so we'll see that has been done played or dismissed. and perhaps this may be a moment where there is a reckoning, but there was sylvan slaves directly in the united states. but this isn't a new thing. this isn't from donald trump's time. this has been going on for more than 2050 years in the united states. and so there will be consent that this sort of language has led to what we've seen just in the last hour in pittsburgh. certainly there will be finger pointing and you can see that as i see already on social media, but there will be an investigation. they'll be an investigation to find out how is this happened, does join hands and was seeing that from the the sound of the shots. it appears that shots were fired towards the stage and then there was a rough could bully apply it in response. it seems like the so the secret service responded very quickly. sadly, on the video the,

i've seen the voice that you hear shouting, get done, is almost certainly going to be a secret service agent telling the, the former president to hit the ground. and then you see him being surrounded so often it said that the secret service would take a bullet for the past and that they are watching and hear you so that that was certainly the case that for men that i could tell you what's the wrong thing donald trump, to make sure to see with safety fit the protocol, then is to remove them from the scene as quickly as possible to get them into the vehicle. first of all, to make sure that he is okay. i've been to get any medical treatment is required to get him to a safe location where they can start to judge the situation and leave the agents on the ground to katia. any investigation that is required and also to see if they can apprehend or even finish it till the past and who file the short. certainly we have

on the tape. someone show thing. sure. to tell you that we don't know whether that is actually the case. but people will know there will be a fill in quite a under way. and as i say, almost certainly i'm increasing security in and around key to milwaukee in the coming out. okay, the for the moment to i'll and we will leave it with you. we'll stay in milwaukee though, and call save it to patsy. co haine who's live for us that hi patsy. obviously we go back grow. we know exactly what's happened. we wish we're seeing shots of what happened a few moments ago with double trans sunday with the security detail around a monthly take about stage. i think we just need to extend the conversation to now the conversation is about done crime about the the right to bear arms. that means these are all topics that donald trump likes to talk about. and now he perhaps has become a victim of gun crime. it does sound like it um, you know, i want to point out i have, i was

a white house correspondent for 10 years and a not that long ago. it's very unusual for secret service. and these outside events do not have a very wide perimeter. they usually have people above it, keeping an eye on like the crowd. they have an excitable amount of technology that goes with every presidential candidate. so obviously there's going to be an inquiry as to exactly how far the perimeter was. what sort of searching was done that we do know in the, in the past donald trump has been very anti megs. may not that are. those are those metal detectors that people get wanted to go through. remember in january 6, he said, these are my people, they're not going to hurt me, let them in, even if they have guns. what are these things that's going to be interesting here here in milwaukee where the convention is going to take place just today. i was working on a story for you about security preparations and it is very intense. as i mentioned, have covered some political conventions before. i don't remember seeing a perimeter that was just this wide. it, it really is,

was going to be very strict. they were going to have 16 different agencies that are working on the security plan for a year and a half. i myself interviewed the milwaukee police chief today and just think i really wanted to ask her about is the wisconsin state has a law that is no local officials confound the use of or the carry of weapons in the state so well, secret service can and does take control of that inner perimeter and they do screen people for guns outside of the convention for and that are even in the places where protests are supposed to be. anyone can carry a, was it, they can a concealed weapon that can carry it. and i asked the police do, how do you react to that? that just seems like a recipe for disaster. if you've got protesters, you can be on the edge. i protest, there's just gonna be our did he said, look, there's nothing we can do. this is a 2nd amendment, right? it's in the constitution. basically what we looked for his behavior. so people can have their guns,

but then if they start acting like they're going to use them in an appropriate but what inappropriately then, they're going to move in. now he seemed very convinced of that, but for me just seems like it's powerful weapons. we have now the air fifteens that can fire multiple shots within seconds of each other. how much damage can be done before police can move in? now granted, there's going to be a huge police presence here, as alan was mentioning, it might increase. now, especially a guy, you don't know all of the facts, but to start off this week of the president of the former president's nomination. just to have this happen is really going to just change the entire dynamics of the convention, possibly of the entire election. indeed, we'll see what happens suddenly in the coming us as we stay with the story publicly enough for us and, but we'll keep things patsy wants to go. let's to show you the moment. that's loud shots were heard in the direction of double shrubs riley less than 30 minutes ago.

he would then seem ducking, hey, somebody that just a couple of months old. and if you want to really see something, the said, take a look. what happens the well, let's say the republican voice that'd be the show is a political strategists and to come and tell you to join us out from washington dc . you've seen the pictures. i'm show rita as much as we've just seen that as we were monitoring. uh, president trump. uh at his speech in pennsylvania. i just want to get your reaction to what you, sol. i was watching the rally at the exact moment that i heard the popping sounds. i saw the former president trump uh dropped to the ground and certainly he clutched his ear before he did. so my 1st thought was something great

tim there. and even after he had dropped to the ground and was being bodied covered by secret service. and i saw somebody in sort of a military looking fatigues, law enforcement show up on the, to the right of the stage. there. i continue to hear popping sounds. and the certainly it was a weapon, who knows what type but the, the screaming, the shrill of the shrieking that immediately brought tears to my eyes. and i know butler, pennsylvania very well and spent an entire summer there. i know people who live in that community work in that community and these are solves, are the, are people who are there. this is supposed to be a unifying, fun, summer afternoon in pennsylvania. the weather is pretty hot, feels like a regular americans over, you know, on a personal level. yeah. yeah. i must say. so let you finish reading. sorry. oh, yes, no, i must say um, i am completely shook. i've spent 8 years warning about the increase of political

violence and extremism in this nation. a political operative who like me, who's worked in the political arena for 17 years. i have never felt a moment like this. i would a tiny girl barely born when uh, reagan was shot in washington dc outside the washington, hilton. i will remember this days of the rest of my life. the immediate former president of the united states was shot. this is america. indeed, and i think that the, we're certainly guessing what now and the why is that the platform of presidents is okay. and, and present biden has been given an initial briefing of the incident. so we expect the coming president to be speaking to the full, the president, we think within a short time it has to be said that we've talked about security around the convention, which will happen in milwaukee in 2 days time. but security to events like this have always been tight. are you surprised?

perhaps that's, that has been a lot somewhere along the line. if it stays somebody who's taken a pot shots at the president took place range. i'm not surprised. i've been waiting for this day. almost. i'm expected it. i will get. what can you say about a former president who when he was still in office on january 6th, 2021 standing at the ellipse of the white house, addressing supporters of his. and we know now through transcripts that were made available through the january 6th select committee on capitol hill that he was fine with people bringing weapons through the make nominators at that. riley on january 6th, 2021. what can be said when we know these facts, of course, people with guns are welcome at trump rallies and low trump rallies. like i said, i've been on this network many times talking about how i do not support the former president. i don't vote for him in 2016. i have no, i did not vote for him in 2020. i am not supporting him this time around. do i have

never changed my registered republican status, but i am still an american. i am still a person with eyes and ears and a heart, and i can say that this shocks the consciousness no matter what, everything changes from here on out. i cannot over state how massive this moment is as the republicans roll into milwaukee where again, weapons are and are allowed to be taken into the convention. promises in cleveland in 2016 and they were also allowed. but so we should expect this kind of thing, but it's not right. and it's so wrong and it highlights how charged the rhetoric created politically in the united states, we have less than a $120.00 days to go. and this re send everything i think, present bite, it should address the american public to day and talk to us because we are a nation shall get from seeing the imagery. do you think the whole issue of the right to buy rob's the constitution? the way it's ingrained in the psyche of the american people, you know,

better than we would do outside the board to solve the us. i mean, is that going to be a debate? you think? you think don't trouble want to talk about that deal where it says that we're a no bad guns are just bad people or i think he'll continue with that line. he. he doesn't seem to ever meet the moment in a rational, practical way. i hope he changes that, but i don't have much faith that he will when he was brought up from the position of being on the floor of the stage. after those, those shots rang out the popping sounds. he was brought back up in a pattern by the secret service agents who were covering him in a circular pattern and almost kind of hovering over him. he put out a fist from the cupboard pattern. and that's to show those people at the rally that he is invincible, that he project strengthen. a brief moment and that's why it is the porters

continued to follow him. they love a strong man and look, americans of always loved a strong man. but this moment demands a reassessment of how the republicans move forward. and as i'm an american mother, i know that guns kill more american kids than any other costs. guns cannot be normalized the way they have been since the assault weapon band with was repealed. we, you know, we are a nation that is generally say, you look at our communities, they are generally safe. of course, we have crime in urban and rural communities. but what i want to say is this, the founders of these united states never, ever intended for people to have been that could renounce shots could be deployed a number of bullets within seconds. they wanted people to be able to protect themselves or be able to, if you don't have a weapon, indicates that a rebellion was needed against a too powerful authority. yes, the government, but the founders could have never imagined the type of things we have now,

which are bump stopped, which turn the weapons into automatic weapons d o, a weapon that could deploy just a few shots, turning them into the weapons of war. essentially, this is not what the founders wanted. the republican party needs to meet the moment . indeed, as perhaps the democratic party also needs to meet the vote with how do you think they will react? a president biden does take. what might assume that he will take to the waves that resume to discuss exactly what we've all witnessed in the last hour. what do you expect, tim? what would you want him to say? also, anyone who's been watching um, you know, sort of our political fights play out over the past couple weeks. you know, i have, have seen democrats essentially fumbled the ball not looked very unified since by didn't was debating trump. and, you know, look, republicans have set out to cast biden as in firm as unable to complete the job.

not just even through the rest of the year. forget the next 4 years. but maybe just, maybe the democrats will come together and talk about what we all need right now, which is the national healing. we need healing from all the bills that plague our society. guns being one of the foremost and democrats in congress have tried in earnest to pass legislation that many republicans, unfortunately, could not get behind. because lobbying still is there by the national rifle association. the amount of money spent in politics because of our citizens united decision that still exist. all these factors complicate many moderate republicans even being able to come out and prove for any kind of compromise with democrats on the issue of guns and violence. so in some ways what i think is unfortunately true . well there, there will be a continuation of this thing, but i do hope the present by the end does the right thing and addresses a nation and speaks about how our communities can be healed. in the aftermath of devastating moments like this. um, fortunately,

it seems that all that the former project from suffer it is an injury to his ear. i don't know any more at this moment, but thankfully, it was nothing more. still, no matter which way you turn it, the situation changes the game less than a $120.00 days to go. and i believe we will see something changing this res, given the bag. now, many of this moment reading to show that for us republican strategist and regular contributes a to, i'll just say it's good to speak to you. thanks very much for joining us. let's come back over to our correspondent john hadn't drawn, who's in butler in pennsylvania, unraveling exactly what might have happened with the people that were witnessing or witnessed. what did happen, joe? this is a fast moving story. really, isn't it? and people are still pretty shocked by what like, seem to come. so if you want to really see something that's right. i talked to a man named paul costco who showed me a photograph that she took from very close to where the former president was. and

it did appear to show blood on his right ear. but this man also said when trump climbed into the vehicle as escorted by secret service agents that he gave a fist pump in the air, which suggested that he was all right. i also talked to a woman who told me that next to her, several people. she said about 3 people appeared to have been shot. she spoke to a man with blood on the shirt. and that man said that the person who was helping probably did not survive. but i have someone here who is right upfront. this is erin austin, we thank you for your time stopping to talk to us here at algae 0. can you just tell us, what did you see? what do you, what do you know from what happened today? you were a volunteer here, a volunteer. so i was sitting in the 1st row directly in front of the president, trump. i still call him president trump. he was speaking, we were standing up. he was speaking, all of a sudden we heard pop, pop, pop sounding,

a lot like fireworks. then we realize they're all the secret service is at least 4 of them jumped on the stage, pushed him down. and all the they were the news people that were random on the front, they pushed them all down to the ground. and then the man with the guns go come up and they start clearing the area and i hear them clear one clear to clear, right? clear left, lift them up, so they lift president trump up from the ground. president trump says i want to get my shoes on. i heard that directly from him. they must have fallen off when he pushed him down. on his right cheek was a tear drop of blood right here. then when he turned, you could see the right here from the top of the year to the bottom. blood wasn't pouring blood, but it was blood like