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imagine a more extraordinary us election campaign, an assassination attempt on donald trump. 2 days before becoming his party's domini, his support, unaffected by criminal conviction, an ongoing port prosecutions and his choice of running mates. j. d. events once compared him to out of hitler and was previously escaping critic milan his rival. president joe biden fiercely resist calls to quit the race because of concerns over his age unfitness to run after a disastrous performance. and his only debate with trump so far in this campaign, courtroom drama for by this family to with his son convicted on criminal charges. that's the campaign so far. they're still 4 months to go. so what impact will the last few days have on the outcome, or is it too early to say? we'll get to where i guess in a moment, 1st, this report from image and kimber. somebody

to try the just 2 days off the supply being an assassination attempt. he has tony trump. so to me how to ration that the republican national convention in wisconsin and his support is committed to an ever made a phone call from you saying if this is doing anything, it's really galvanizing everyone behind him. not only people who've been supporters for a long time, but people who maybe were on defense, i think are now coming to see what we've been saying all along that he's just been so persecuted. trump is not the official republican nominee for president securing alons like number of delegates sites and he's picked ohio, send it to j. d bones, as he's running a candidate for vice president. the question is on the motion that senator j, the vance be nominated by acclamation,

all those in favor signify by saying on all those of whom signify by saying no. in the opinion of the chair, the eyes have an emotion as a dog bones he was needs a critic of trump is not one of his most loyal defenders and brings with him a load republican fund base. and the crucial state of ohio may help trump with the presidency wants to see as an important plan in support of trumps populist and his make america great. again, policies and echoing of the republicans. he claims its democratic rhetoric against trump. it's to blame to subsidize assassination attempt before the assassination attempt health and fitness of president j point and have been dominating the election coverage since then. it's been trump driving the agenda point and says votes and trump indistinguishable. referring to phones as a client of trump on the issues. taking

a stephen checks out his ations. democrats have used inflammatory language about trump. how do you talk about the threat to democracy? which is really when a president says things like he says, to just not saying is the main site. somebody look i, i 5 not engaged in that rhetoric. now my, my, my opponent is a case that i read or talks about to be blood batt, to be loses in the same nbc, in to be void and said he's praising of keeping a bull's eye on trump for the mistake. bought that it was a bite remaining focused on trumps policies. for questions about volumes age of the face, it is the conversation swells around trump died still remain. the sport who's been just on dine followed me still likely to get the democratic nomination. police candidates all cooling for unity, about the already common ground in an extraordinary presidential campaign. so full image and came back out to 0. the inside story.

all right, let's not bring in our guest. joining us from the united states as in washington dc, is laura blessing, who is a senior fellow with the government affairs institute of georgia and university in ann arbor, michigan. michael trial got who is a research professor, am or to us at the center of political studies at the university of michigan, and also in washington. we have with us era. com, who is the us political expert and former congressional staffer, thanks for your time with us on inside story. eric, i'll start with you. both candidates have spoken of unity and uniting the country, but in a country that's being described as a reading deeply divided. how critical will be the tone they strike over the next 4 months to the direction that the country takes. and i think it's very important. in fact, we know already there has been just this rising a level of political violence that has certainly shaped the discourse in the country. and now with less than $120.00 days to go until the selection. i think what we're seeing now is a very different tone, and 10 are in the selection and with

a very weary electorate right now. i think it's more important than ever that both candidates, as well as they're running mates, begin to do more to actually attempt to try to unify the country and speak more about their policy differences and less a about personal attacks on one another. laura, what struck you from the republican national convention and what do you think the messaging was that was coming out? i think it's uh, an interesting it a such a view of uh, a candidate who has a real master of the visual image. and we saw that both after saturday shooting but also with the convention itself. i think we need to also pay a lot of attention to the strategy behind different aspects of the choice of the vice presidential pick, as well as different aspects of the party platform. yeah, we're going to get onto the topic of j events at a moment, but let me just bring in michael 1st uh michael,

the assassination attempt on donald trump and the sympathy of the public. by some, do you think that's, that's translated into political capital for him is momentum behind trump? well, we'll be able to show the poles that are conducted over the weekend and next week after the convention is over. ordinarily, we could expect a post convention a bomb. and then i said, in addition to that, they'll be kind of empathetic response because of the assassination attempt. i wouldn't be surprised if donald trump in those falls next week we're leading by 6 or 8 percentage points. eric, they are sure that a lot of times what yeah, go ahead. got a lot of time left in the campaign a. okay, eric, do you share that view? i mean, what impact do you think that the shooting will have on the election and voters? no, i don't, i don't think that we're going to see donald trump game that much of

a bump in the polls. mostly because one, i think donald trump, even though this was a very or if it moment donald trump is see, i think as a very polarizing figure in this country. moreover, it has been donald trump, that has been actually fueling a lot of the political violence that we're seeing play out in the nation right now . in addition to that, because most americans still don't have a clue who j. the vance is. i don't think they're going to actually gravitate to the party because of this relative unknown and political lightweight that we, that we see that donald trump is picked. in addition to that, what we saw, at least from the 1st opening night of the convention, was more of the same in terms of what mag has been pushing, which is basically a lot of grievance against so many in the country right now. and so i don't think we're seeing a vision or a plan that is actually going to move the nation. but further, or in fact,

try to unify or actually tap down the political rhetoric that we're already seeing . so i don't think we will actually see necessarily the bump that my my, my colleague has set or suggest that we're going to after this convention. michael, let's talk about j. the vans who trump picked is running mates is vp on that ticket . what was the motivations you think for his selection of date events? what does he bring to? not only trump, but the movement itself. i think it's an unusual pick because it's, it's, it strengthens the team's appeal to the backup page, but it doesn't do anything to potentially increase the size of our coalition going into election day. on the other hand, donald trump hasn't really shown on any inclination to try to broaden this correlation. i think that the bands could be important

in terms of a couple of the critical stage and the so called blue wall on the midwest, especially pennsylvania and michigan, which are going to be very tightly contested. donald trump didn't need j dfacs in order to when i, ohio. so i think many people see this as a kind of legacy selection cementing down from solar on the republican party. but it's not a very strategic political charge. historically, michael, when it comes to actually getting elected for us, president, do vice president selections help as well. maybe they can in certain ways that the margin they could be selected because they're from an important stage where the,

where they think that the outcome could be close. i think one thing that j d bench could help the campaign with is interactions with contributors who may be more conservative than the typical uh they publish them identifier. and he would be very good that private meetings with donors as opposed to speaking of to a large gatherings. this selection does provide an opening, i think, to the bottom jeff pay because of his positions on abortion. and the fact that he has indicated he would have been elections in our 2020. they'll be a debate between j d match and couple hours sometime in the fall back to be a very interesting and important event. okay, i'm glad you brings out the issue of abortion. eric, let me ask you this. i mean, vance has consistently voted against legislation. some of the democratic lead to codify abortion rights,

restore the protections of roe vs wade and the list goes on. mean women are hugely important voter base, so the selection of daily vance won't really boost support among women voters. will it? and actually i agree with mike on that point. i think this is actually a boon to democrats and the fact that he selected judy vance. and the reason for that is because we know that this issue of abortion has been a big, big winner for democrats, particularly. and many of these referendum states and special elections. and i think now given that you have someone like j d badge, who has such a a very caustic and controversy or record, particularly on the many things that he has said about women and women's rights. i think this is going to be, feel that the, the big bite and harris campaign can use not only against j b bad, but it gets republicans writ large as they begin to use this as an issue, as a wedge and as a cultural against republicans, we know that the issue of abortion is perhaps the single biggest winner for

democrats and i think j d match is a massive, massive gift to them on this issue, particularly at a time right now when joe biden is facing so many challenges internally. i think this gives him a both and we know that he's going to be in nevada, another key battleground state, where i suspect they will begin to hammer this issue home. laura, do you agree with that? is that a strategy that you see the democrats using going for? oh, absolutely. i do think that yesterday's convention proceedings did have something very important pertaining to abortion, and not just the journey best pets pick up the events of, of saturday with the shooting likely helped by the republicans or for a larger fight over the abortion provisions inside of the platform itself, which are a step down for me, you know, more restrictive position in previous platforms that look to give the issue up to

the states. and so i know both eric and michael are right to point to the dances positions on abortions. we should also look at the larger positioning of the platform as well as the republican party and trump statements trying to tamp down this very successful issue. uh for the democrats. okay, laura, just i'll stick with you for just a moment because i'd like to look at the democrats for a month and specifically by and i mean, we saw that he gave an interview this weekend in which he called a row that he gave an answer to this weekend, but previous to this interview he's called trump and exist central threat. and in that interview he gave he had to come out and sort of defend himself. and his rhetoric is by now facing a test going forward because he needs to try to revive his own political fortunes by looking presidential by convincing people that he can actually secure a 2nd term as president. but at the same time, he'll still need to sort of take on trump. so he's really face

a sort of difficult decision about when to return to the offensive games. trump. so i think the statement that the bottom put out in response to saturday shooting, i was in the appropriate statement that we've seen of by actors across the political spectrum. obviously there's been some exceptions to that. and uh, you know, parents is tweet has been pretty widely circulated. i, uh, just as an example, but it called the lower the temperature of to, you know, and i go back and embrace the ability and to contest politics on the merits of a while. busy unifying americans, i think that's the appropriate message for everybody to house and receive that threat to civic society as well. michael, what about the message that was sent out by j, the vance? i mean, he tweeted the in so many words of it was biden's political rhetoric that led to the shooting. what do i stick to that statement? reflects to j. d bench is, are, has been as

a republican candidate. and there is also commentary about his prior views and how they've changed over time about donald trump. so they'll be some review and inspection of j g advances past statements. and how he seems to have a capitulated to donald trump in order to gain the spot on the ticket. what, what do you think it is though, michael, that less trump overlooked the comments that dave events has made about him in the past? well i, i think that is some of his ability to help in some key space that the martin, the fact that there are the larger we are quite in sympathy. and also that there's some sense of

a legacy that donald trump would leave with a j. d. vance as a possible successor. so this campaign is pretty consistently about. so man thing is base. and the main attraction i think of j. d match compared to the macro. rubio and jumping to burn them is that he is clearly on the mag a side of the republican party as it stands today. eric, i got to ask you about how you think allies across the world are looking at the selection of j the van. so if him and trump worth will not take it, i mean, if we just look at his comments about ukraine for a moment, so he's earned himself a reputation as one of the biggest opponents of continued us age to ukraine. he said this that's been us has provided a blanket of security to europe for far too long,

and he's calling for european allies to step up their own military contributions. how consequential do you think that the stance is going to be and what impact is it going to have on ukraine and nato to? oh, i think it's huge. i think what we're saying from jamie vance is, he's an isolationist, very much in the same vein as donald trump. and i think that audiology certainly, i think send shivers through the west, particularly in light of the very successful nato summit that will just help here in washington dc where the united states and other nations, per se, made clear their intentions and their support. and to continue to operate as a bulwark against not only russia, but fascism that continues to course through europe. and so i think what we're seeing here is janie vance, i think, is, is going to certainly make a lot of those leaders in the west. extremely nervous because what we see here is someone who is not

a balance to donald trump with someone who actually continues to enforce those ideas and those ideologies of moving away from this, this global framework that the united states has implemented and lead over the last 7 or 8 decades, i mean, he certainly sounds like eric that he wants to condition support for ukraine, but it's not the same when it comes to israel because he's also said this, i mean on the, on the goals are war. he's eco trumps coal for israel to quote unquote finish the job again time us and the gaza strip. and he's also said this and i quote him, a majority of citizens of this country thinks that they're savior and i count myself. a christian was born, died and resurrected in that narrow little strip of the territory of the mediterranean. what does this tell you about? what sort of policies that, you know, he'll try to push for if he becomes vice president when it comes to israel and the palestinians? you know, it's ironic because if you go back to the primaries, we saw where joe biting was having a very difficult time,

particularly on his left flank with many progressives. and of course the air been muslim population out for his support for nothing. yahoo in israel, and what we see from present for president donald trump and his pick j event is they are clear, clear supporters of net in yahoo. and if they were in fact elected the, they would not only prop provide support to nothing yahoo, but would certainly give him a blank check and free reign to actually continue to create cook and continue these atrocities that we are seeing play out in the region. and so i think that's something that voters should actually be mindful of when they're looking at these 2 candidates. laura, let me just ask you about some, some of the latest polls that i've seen. the one that really struck me actually is that there seems to be very low voter. infuse the as i'm for the selection and this is apparently a who at a 20 year low. so it's an nbc pool,

which round 64 percent of voters say that they are very interested in this to selection that may sound high, but this is a 20 or low. what do you make of that? there is, i think there's a, you know, the choice of these 2 individuals, um and if that's on the electron and if it's something we've seen this whole cycle and, and you know, the button is certainly stumbled. busy in the more recent debate, i think that's exacerbated those feelings on, on the democratic side, and it's gonna be the larger pulling on this in as possible. change as we go forward towards the election. and in terms of confiding, make those numbers up because even combined, make those numbers up because even polls are showing us that the democratic party as a whole, is losing support among a key demographics, like black, latino, and younger photos, which as we know have large, we backed the party in the past. sure. and, and these are interesting demographic,

demographic shifts that have of gotten a lot of attention and, you know, as, you know, as, as it certainly certainly deserved. i, i, i do, you know, we have a, this, this is shaping up to be a very close election and, and the thing about close elections is that a variety of different things can be thought of as being consequential. so whether that's the voters in dearborn michigan who oppose the administration's actions in gaza, whether that's a racial demographic, all of these different things have the potential to matter of. but there are there's, there's certainly a list of michael. um, how would you sort of gauge the, the temperature of the country right now? i mean, we're 4 months away from the election. it's so much has happened for both candidates to well i think that there's a large portion of americans who are dismayed at the current state of our politics, which is also complicated by reactions to the violence in the attempted

assassination. we're living in this period of scream color is ation. where uh, politics, domestic politics is think your mom, it kind of a tribal aspect where democrats don't like republicans and republicans don't like democrats. i think also in terms of the particular parenting of this campaign. i, democrats and independents, are facing pretty strong fresh pressures where they have concerns about joe biden, his age and his ability going 4 years into the future. but on the other hand, they have such a strong dislike for donald trump. that they're going to have to decide whether or not they're going to get a pallet are going to vote on election day. i think turn out will be a very major factor. and the republicans probably have

a slight advantage currently in that regard. because of the commitment of donald trump's base, and the main strategic point for the democrats is whether or not they can energize people who prefer joe biden over donald trump. despite the fact they're not really happy with the parenting. and we'll go to the polls on election day. eric, i'll give you the final word. i mean, it just seems like there's a hardening of the political atmosphere and environment. would you agree with that? and also just picking up on what michael was saying, how did the democrats energize not only their campaign but their voters and encourage them to come out and vote i, i totally agree with that. i do believe not only is they are heartening in terms of what we're saying play out, but i think it could potentially, we could actually be seeing a get worse, not better in the wake of this assassination in terms of where democrats stand right now. i think we have to remember,

democrats have actually also performed the polling data in the last 8 special election. so since 2022, where there was expected to be a red wave that never actually crested democrats have actually $18.00 out of 8 special elections. and even this year, and some of the races that we have seen, democrats have continued to over perform what suggest that right now? i don't think the polling is as accurate as well as we're seeing. namely, because i do believe that right now, democrats are doing far better with rank and file boulders, especially african american voters. and i think that's something that could be in play. and while there are those who think that right now will met them is with donald trump. i think based on polling data, i think that can be very surprising and somewhat detrimental for the republican party given would they given where they seem to think we're seeing a democratic ticket that's hobbled. but i think when you look at it's rank and file voters,

i think they're doing very well compared to where some of the elite and donor class may stand right now. all right, well we shall see what happens over the next few months. thank you so much for joining us, laura. blessing michael trog on an airy town. thank you for your time. to thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. alda 0 is all com. and for further discussion, you can go to our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash adrian side story. so in the conversation on x or handle is a j inside story from myself and the whole team here. and so how, thanks for watching and bye bye for now the to bob system, the streets of chicago on different with the same ambition biting the way to a better life for themselves. and their. 6 in

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