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opening the u. k. parliament with westminster. the new labor government has now set out its legislative plans with economic growth as its priority wrecks it and high fuel costs. in part, due to the ukraine war has helped drive a cost of living crisis with many struggling to make ends meet the new prime minister at your summer. it takes over after a landslide victory earlier this month. that ended 14 years of conservative governments. so the electorate wanted change, but what can we expect from the new governments? and with the u. k. involved and the wars in gaza and ukraine? what changes if any, can we expect on foreign policy? we'll get to where i guess in a moment. first, this report from imaging kimber, my lords, the members of the house of commons, the king speech mocking the official opening of the newly elected u. k. parliament. by government will govern in service to the country. of my government's legislative program will be mission lead based upon the principles of

security fed as an opportunity for all stability will be the cornerstone of my government's economic policy. every decision will be consistent with this fiscal rules. point minister castaneda just says the plans laid out in the speech which is written by the government and spend will take the breaks of britain or the following may sincerely, truly tired of his labor government and has been elected with a will pick majority of 174 that i've seen the conservative party, which has been in power for 14 years. it is to welcome you there more than 35 new proposals. and at the top of the agenda is economic growth. one of those bills is building more houses, like some question, the plan, their proposals to re nationalize the railways, which were privatized on the conservatives. 3 decades ago, bought,

i've seen services decline, put in foreign policy, domestic changes, and not expected. stormer waited for months until february, before calling for an immediate cease fire, and garza. he's punched, his policy, supposes formerly to jeremy colbin, who was a strong supporter of protestant, even political, the human rights phones will search for peace. not bull. off of the new government has taken funding from pro is right and nobody groups and some a members of the labor of friends of israel, grand, such as the new foreign minister days off to his appointment. he travel to israel and the occupied westbank. i'm using old diplomatic efforts indeed, last week with the g 7 nations, and particularly with attorney blinking, pressing full of that hostage deal. and i hope to that we see a cx 5 support for ukraine, and it's quite against russia will be quite on wavering. but one area of difference,

maybe the e u d p m has city kind of robot breaks it, but you can push the close to toys with your, the, whatever plans obeyed. the difficult part would be to implement the image and kimber out to 0 inside story. ok, let's, i'll bring in our guys joining us all from the u. k. we have in london, lucy fisher, who's a white hole editor at the financial times, and a host of the political fix podcasts as an officer in eastbourne, we have tim bell who is a professor of politics, the queen mary university in london, and also in london as peter gig and who's a political commentator and sunday times best selling author of the book, democracy for sale. thank you so much for your time with us on inside story peter. i'll start with you 1st. when you look at the scale and the challenges that the u. k faces that the speech meet the needs of the british people. and that's kind of the big question people going to be asking on the box of the see did coach on the

big themes of the general election. and the beginning themes deductibles us. things like house things live transports, particularly housing, and it's a king's b. so what you've got is very much an outline of these starts aside bills. it's not saving so many areas. what exactly we're going to be looking at, what we can see almost very clearly signal is a much more intervention to space than what you've seen in the past. we've, we've had 14 years of concert as government which ended in a rec, for defeats. the conservative party and in some respects labor, 2nd sample here, starting the settings of open saying i want to be much more interventionist. the big issue and the biggest was like in your packages and as someone shows it active farmers, where is the money going to come from? we know. busy that the bush economy isn't, isn't we place on the public finances in about position and was not clear. i think something as just kings beach is exactly how beyond supply side changes, difficult part of going to address stuff. okay. gotta important points you raised

there. loosely, let me ask you what you think the aim was of the speech on, was it achieved? i think it was to fault the see to show the scale a piece of fission to get started on some of the most difficult emissions in his government, including the one of the central redo that mission and for a driving economic growth in order to pay for many of the things he wants to speak to pointed out, you know, people are already on skiing, where the money is going to come from. and the big measure today, big bill announced was on counting reforms to get house building and construction and building going. i think we'll see what you see is it's new bills that will allow him to take off some easy when she knows the last government and the pony share, which adventist felt that that was a huge level of incompetence they want living up to that touches. so wanting to get going on on taking off some of these manifesto balance, and that's why i'm not surprised you also carry day. but a number of bills from the last we administration. we should see next, smoking,

firm and various other brands. that's with me for particularly to the one, allow him to um, to choke up those easy wins and show that he's go hunting in the national interest . i'm not taking a courses on or tribal approach to good policy. okay, let's drill down into some of these sort of key takeaways p, tim. when it comes to planning reforms to get the country to build a more house as an infrastructure, how key was that? do you think of likely importance? i mean, one of the huge problems we have in this country is a housing market that really does notes of the population and particularly young people. it's absolutely vital that we build more homes. i'm not so sure as perhaps the government is that building will necessarily say a big forward in prices, but nevertheless, we have to do something to make devolved by increasing supply. so that is hugely important. and of course there was a multiplier effect. once we start building more,

presumably then we will get more people into employment, although that's going to be difficult given that we already have quite high employment rates and presumably will also have enough on effect on wages as well. so that will mean there was more spending done by people in the economy, so it could establish of us to a circle. that's what we got with the hopes anyway. and peter, when it comes to the issue of enshrining into law, the ability of the fiscal watchdog to assess every big fiscal event. so, mean how significant is that? well, this is really a signal to the kind of sense which the later part here. so it would always be campaigning and go from and to slot. yeah. so you never, people have said this, it really in many ways above lives. charles, the conservative leader before and actually seeing that fairly short lived quite device has been sort of leader who was a huge theme of labors masses, election winning campaign that lives across it, across the economy. there's trust, i trust class a lot with the old new york. i mean kind of what they're kind of doing with this. i

don't, i think this is more symbolic than anything else really. but it's quite a powerful symbolism all the same. let me ask a 10 then, or pardon me, i'll go to lucy 1st, at least, to the other, announce what we heard was nationalizing the railway. but that is a pledge that labor made on the campaign trail saying that they will fully nationalize the trade network within 5 years or coming to power. and i suppose now comes the difficult bit actually trying to deliver this. how difficult is it going to be, do you think actually it sounds like it's a huge um, disruption to the way that the rail services are currently running the heat k. but i think that the most part neighbor is trying to and smartly, you know, shift services on the state books as a, when contracts come to an end to avoid a huge, really upset. also avoid the kind of costs that come with nationalizing all the utilities, which they say would just be, you know, a bad bodies, the money, the tax pay. but of course, you're in the politics of this. it is a salt to the next to the party when they need to have moved away from some of the

other issues that look very tricky to deliver that with the bonded by the next. i think one area with that is a big question. mark next is on what the final package or what, cuz rights looks like. they bought a house today and out since introducing a bill on that front. a lot of that is going to go down to consultation. but they are all members of the country trade union movement, and some of them the left blank of the parties were a little suspicious that some emissions at all with this stage where opposed by this big business may yet be jettisoned by the new government. and was there anything not included that you wanted to see whether we're able to see it well known as possibly a relative? but i think certainly some funds of democracy in this country did want to say they initially put through a bill to reduce the voting age to 16. for example, i think they wanted to see what i'm asking if i see registration. i think they would have liked to same labor go for the on house of lords or full months. it is

one of labor's intending to do is to get rid of the remaining hereditary pay is in the house of law. so people who have asked them to because they are born in the our stock or say, i do. so we introduce a monday tray retirement age for some pays in order to get the numbers in the house of lords down. of course, many people would argue that in the 21st century, democracy like britain, we really shouldn't be in a situation where one house of parliament is a point said roll them elected. there are many people in the labour. uh so i to believe that, but uh the labor government has said that uh, any progress on that is for the future. i think they probably will introduce folks at 60, not something that's been a policy for some time and they will introduce automatic bunch of registration. but they say that there's plenty of time to do that. and to be honest, i think labor probably has called at least 4 or 5 years. there's no danger of this government collapsing any time soon. right. but peter, i mean that the speech might have to convince you that the campaign promises are

actually being turned into reality, or at least the process is beginning because government plans and then government achieving something or are completely different. well deliver parking washington electives on a higher level of the promises. there wasn't a lot of promises in the neighbor manifesto as well as it was by the same document . you know, there's a lot of talk of change, but there was no loss of nice on the goals. so what we've seen today, there's not a huge amount of mass based pricing based off of the slide before hand. and the challenge i think for labor is less about specific policies that they, from the election campaign in more, how to actually change the standards of living. they come and united kingdom, you know, reinforcement really way just haven't really embrace it all over the last 15 years . they long tailor, most diversity is still south and in the united kingdom and those i, she does quite a lot of kind of this dissatisfaction of politics as it is. and the scale of labor's victory really does also reflect the 1st possible system we have in the

united kingdom, where it's kind of winter takes. also labor did very well, but a lot of that goal was very much nancy. conservative both punishing to conserve as for what was widely seen, especially towards the end of their administration of those incompetence. but the challenge for labor is actually going to be delivering something that people will feed as a time to build their funds and not will. they will also tank labor for the end of it, which isn't easy. it's, and there's some comparison being made between in uh this, this uh, this policy that was put for these laws that are going to be inactive. and what tony blair said back in 1997, where he actually introduced the national minimum wage, a windfall tax on privatized utilities, referendums on devolution, and scotland wales, and also a independence from the back of england as you know. so was, what is it more restrained this time around and as storm are pursuing a more cautious approach? is that a strategy? you know, i mean, i think if you laid out those a 1997 policies on the part of totally brad they,

they look quite impressive. but i think if you looked into and summarize these faulty proposals by the labor government in 2024, probably you could pick out some which was just as impressive. actually, the labor government in 1997 was very cautious for the 1st few years. and indeed, some of the politicians said that they wished they take a more involved to just the huge majority that they had. but then, i mean, i think what peter says is incredibly important. and the labor government has to be seen to deliver on some of the things that people felt were very, very important. and then the selection and which are really to do with legislation they all to do, quite frankly, with results is that needs to be diverted into all crumbling public services. a lot, something that a king speech is really going to talk very much about, but he's actually in the end probably what he is going to help labor when a 2nd time in particular, obviously money for the national health service. a guy,

as you've already alluded to in some ways, these parts of the challenge, the labor faces because of the moment people are asking where the money is going to come from. and it's very difficult to believe that unless, if they keep to that fiscal, we'll say find other false forms of tax revenue. and they're going to be able to do that. that isn't really something that's dealt with a miss king speech. it wouldn't really be dealt with a 90, not just a to program, but it's something the government is going to have to do pretty soon. i think lucy way in on this, i mean my peter and sam rightly points out that this is according to research and polls coming out of the u. k. that after the election, people felt that delivery was lacking by the last government. so how much pressure a storm are under a to deliver right now and is says agenda dominated by a more for a gradual approach to change. i would think he is under huge pressure to do that. there's always this balance between people cool values, voltage balance due to this. but in fact, as he said,

the polling showed at the notes dimension. even people who are aligned to consider themselves and knowledgeable with conservative values, felt that in it ministration be in the 14 years the policy was not delivering the full was no, you know, competence. and that's one of the she really is that they have received such a crushing the data from the public and a huge to beat out the german inaction. so in that sense, pressure is i want to kissed on the, in addition, you know, it, i think he need, he knows that he will be on paper. his majority looks huge. a lot of the things he dropped, he's one all by points and in margins. so, you know, come the next election and just 5 years time, he needs to prove he's been a bit and the race is all to get some of the most difficult subjects and underway now at the spend some of his political capital want it tight, but it is a very difficult school situation. where do you see the political campaign begin by

this government to sort of bring all the skeletons, obstacles it and try and in some of the worst situations like the prisoners capacity crisis on the last tory administration. we have some kids, thomas say, you know that the present is issue is less than he realized at one in a position. and i think we'll be hearing a lot more about that in coming weeks. we teresa is going to bring forward this review all the parties spending inheritance that will do a lot of that to make work. i'm trying to hold the lowest government responsible on that could potentially aid the way for tax wise is maita this weekend. and even though the government now pledged, you know, increased taxes and walking people and suggested that it had new kinds of tax rises outside of the very narrow rough dimensions it outlined. and it's not at best. i think we could yet see them say, now we've seen under the bonus and just how bad the situation is. we all going down to raise revenue from someone a before we go on to the issues of foreign policy, peter,

i just got to ask you about breakfast because it seems that labor part of the labor party is adopted sort of the same policy as the conservatives which is that they won't have another referendum despite the poll, suggesting that brits with vote to, to go back into the you. i mean, how, how much of an issue this breaks it remained. well, during the extra campaign breaks, it was the kind of the dog that didn't buy a notification of heartache even to live dan's delivered democrats who are, whose policies to wants to return to your opinions really talk about breaks it at all. but it's a huge aspect of the common situation that brooklyn is, and one of the reasons we've had such sluggish gold in the last few years is the is the trade barriers. it's are going to be the one lee, but it does exist that could be polled to quickly increase. gd, p is at coastal volume and with your opinions, that also comes with lots difficulties. there's already been back to the d, like cetera. i think what's going to be interesting to watch at the moment labor doesn't really want to talk about it. it wouldn't be interesting. it was delivered, democrats were to become more vocally a t rex. and i think there's definitely a large amount of there's a large percentage of labor holes and the big the labor members who are very

agitated by rex and still. and so i think, i think it's disappeared as an issue just because it doesn't really appear in the king's page, is to site image read was the, the reality you had that is still a massive fisher versus politics. and these kind of on, on result in many respects. okay, time, what, what did appear though in the king speech is that the u. k. once better relations with the you. but is it clear how far labor is willing to go? it was pretty clear that they don't want to rejoin the single monkey or the custom junior, which is piece of sack, would be the easiest way of getting groves in this country because they call them as fail. but that's probably cost us around 5 percent of all g d p. case dom a piece labor coatings are obviously still very worried about losing people who voted leave in 2016 from this commission that they built in 2024. so this, i think very difficult, charles, that will see that happening, at least in the 1st time of a labor government. what labor will trying to do is to use the read negotiation of

the trade corporation agreement that comes out for we negotiate action in 2025 to try and as it was incorrect, the edges and improve some possible trading relationship with the european union. i think will probably say agreements on victory issues and that will help i think with the export and import food animals prompts, etc. that will help. we may see some moves towards what we call dynamic alignment. so that will be as the you changes as regulatory rules in various areas . we will automatically change all is to harmonize with them and that will make it easier for people next bolting to the european union. that will make a difference for quite frankly, we all, if we don't rejoin the single market and we don't, we joined the customs union going to be treated by the european union as the country with all the disadvantages and the friction. so that in both. okay, and on ukraine, lucy, i mean,

do you see any difference or between the conservatives and the labor party when it comes to ukraine? we heard in the king speech that's, you know, ukraine is hugely important and we understand from this government. but backing and arming are ukraine will continue. i think that's the one kind of area of policy. what keeps telling me is we g distress continued c, which is pre to excessive wishes to knock. and he says that in pretty on the skies times that the u. k remains foursquare find, keep they've committed to the same and uplifting spending all on. ready tree h t crane 3000000000. yet to printing sachi that the conservatives had, and certainly storm and the space before the election, an officer to possibly reassure told him is lensky, including the nate, to summit in washington last week. so i think mt scenario where we weren't see any deviation. one question mark still remains as a how long it will take the shape of government to increase defense expenditure at 2.5 percent g d p. they've said they'll get that on the have this week announced

a major strategic defense review that will, that help them grow, not how they get back from the current level of defense spending, which is 2.3 percent t t p. and of course, the other war is guys, peter, what does this government mean for, for is really support and the war on god's. i mean, we did see that during the election. they lost seats. and there has been approved or palestinian supporters from the labor party is you know, we heard in our report that a number of ministers have actually received as really donations of this. this report claiming more than 40 percent of care storms cabinet has been funded by a pro is really group. so do you expect continue it see there as well when it comes to support for israel just like the conservative? well, in the king speech, the parts talked about wanting to send us a piece in the middle east on the have a saw an independent palestinian stage. i think care storm are on a senior ministers are, are very wary especially publicity and by what happened in the election,

they were very slow to support the cease fire. i think many of them that were breaks, how slow they were to support the ceasefire and gaza. the language from the labor party has changed as your package shows. david, i mean the foreign secretary was and is my vision benjamin netanyahu recently as well. i think they're trying now to try and kind of kind of a little bit to try and stop some of the tax on them from their less liked around guys on what we heard and they couldn't speak. there's nothing really new. i mean that's and that's, that's been a longstanding u. k. policy, right support for the to stay solution and pursuing peace when it comes to is realism, housing. and so there was nothing new. you know, that is no longer on the king's page. i know which is not that's surprising because the king's base doesn't tend to deal with foreign policy issues. and so i think in that respect is not surprising. well, the neighbor hardly will do that's new or is, i think, is still unclear. will it look to recognize that an independent policy in st. now we're out of now for 2 sites, solution, etc. that's possibly one place where pressure will be applied. okay. and to him when it comes to transatlantic relations,

um relations with the u. s. i mean does not depend not so much on actually who occupies 10 diamond street, but who occupies the white house, spelt so yes, i mean, uh, what i have a label for example wants to do in terms of helping you crane is going to depend in the end on where the donald trump wins in the united states in november and decide whether or not to actually continue the us support for ukraine without us support. british supports, in your opinion, support what really mean a great deal. so the election in november and the united states of america is going to be incredibly important for you k foreign policy. clearly you'd have to say that to case dom i'm told trump choke and cheese. uh, i think they, they, i think i'd speak very, very differently. but obviously a labor government as has happened before, is just going to have to deal with whoever they have to deal with in, in the white house, whether they will still talk about the so called special relationship. we don't

trump to win. well, we've yet to say, yeah, we will see that um, just final thoughts from the 3 if you on the, on the same question lucy, i'll start with you. where do you think this new government sees the new case place in the world? it will certainly, you know, just on the hudson said dot u k is back. he wants to play a big role on the world stage. and i think we will see the piece of travels from the prime minister, an orange secretary, desktop. i'm reflect that in coming on on tim, i think we will see labor play more of a european role rather than replacing the operations of the conception, the government have to some sort of in the pacific tale. so i think many people in the life of policy see that is to, i'm vicious. so i think they will play a big part, but it will be a regional role if anything, peters and you agree with that, or do you have any other thoughts? why would that go that i think, and we, we will be of more of your funeral. it depends what happens in the why sizes as

well and november's election, and then also to some degree with also dependent both direction properties. you are paying politics takes, as you are paying politics, move furniture right into the populace. rise. it's quite striking, next year starting with a call to buy, which has king speech as an antidote. populism. i think that could be changing in the future between, you know, what could be populous and by right, governments in europe and the british government. and how do you think that he'll be able to handle that? i think it's going to be tricky. i think, you know, we've got senior labor figures who have been actually very vocal against the populace royce. now we can see move with our it's donald from having to kind of backtracked quite a last i certainly i think it was the see the story in the see do today looking through the various comments that people like david allow me to find 2nd, notice have made about donald trump. notification for a slot for him is the me looking welcome back on the us. and i think similarly when it comes to your up, i think it's going to put some challenge for this labor government that wants to be seen as principals wants to be seen. i think in some respect, as it's not leading

a social democratic charge at least occupying and the popular space when it's going to be book building up against the populace. governments. okay, we'll have to leave it there. thank you so much for joining us at lucy fisher. it's in bell and peter again, we appreciate your time. thank you. and thanks for watching, you can see the program again, any time by visiting our website, i'll de 0 dot com for further discussion and go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j inside story. so when the conversation on x r handle is adrian side story for myself and the whole team here in delphi. thanks for watching and bye for now. the the latest news as it breaks the process, you are in the bring up a lot with detail coverage. elizabeth facilities are for hundreds of 1000. more people are at risk of contracting,

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