to the decision to several ties comes out to ukraine's intelligence spokesman said, rebels have been given information to conduct the attack. keeps cold. molly's decision. short sighted and hasty cease fire. deal between democratic republic of congo and rolanda has collapsed shortly after coming into effect. fighting has been intensifying and the east of the country, despite attempts to pause a conflict, as far as millions of people out of their homes. refugees affected by the violence have been arriving in neighboring uganda, malcolm lab reports these people having run for their lives. now join more than one and a half 1000000 has been displaced by 3 years of armed conflict in east and democratic republic of congo. they fled fighting between the rwandan backed and 23 on the group. come guys, government forces, and other armed groups. they've arrived at this primary school and neighboring uganda,

which come goes government. i'm the when say will say backs and 23. my says, when fighting for a couch between the my, my and the f t a uh, my husband and eldest charles were killed and i slept with these children on the way here. we passed through intense fights in between the 2 groups. across the border and come go my my and the f. d, a law or among the groups that the government forces have backed in an attempt to defend that surgery from the neighbors. many people here. so the government lost control of the on the groups. some have turned on each other for london back and 23 recently took control of the boy, the town of his sasha. they now control border crossings and mines of coal town and other minerals, the canada and millions of dollars every month for whoever controls them. a cup of porridge is over, new arrivals. get for now they'll get more help in a long time refugee settlement. this question is come though. yes. the receiving

the new outright was as a way to say within them the number had to going to big. that's now normalizing about to really say with them on a data business, you can to deny supporting the m 23 and create for wonder and you've gone to invaded condo in the 1990s. has been accused of meddling, inducing minerals ever since. and for as long as people here haven't had peace malcolm web elders era, the bottom line is next to because the website, i'll just, you know, don't. com, robots and stay with the maybe his son does head to head with his really historians that he morris. the jews were on the 5th of the night, elation by the arabs, and that's my view legitimize justified cleansing arabs from palestine. the hutus

that exactly the same thing about maybe food in 1990. israel has committed a numerous war crimes since the hospital found some type of stuff. i'm fairly sure that'd be rough time. the toward itself is not a wall time head to head on out to 0. hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question after israel's latest escalations is the middle east running the risk of a wider open ended war. let's get to the bottom line. the 12 hours a part is real, killed, a top commander in has the law and living on an inner. ron allegedly killed each mile honey. the former elected palestinian prime minister and head of from us. now the entire region is in suspended animation. willie ron feel force to respond if not to establish deterrence, at least to say face and by killing the chief negotiator of home us. has israel buried any chances for success in the cease fire talks and return of hostages. it was supposed to end the war in gaza now and it's 10 per month. plus what role is

the political situation in the us playing with a leading duck president and a roller coaster election race in full swing? today we're talking with jeremy skate. he'll co founder of a new investigative journalism website, drop site news, an author of several books, including the assassination complex inside the government secret drone warfare program. jeremy, thank you so much for joining us today. i'm just interested in your take right now on the temperature of things. are we tilting towards something that could dramatically escalate? absolutely, we are. you know, benjamin netanyahu has been a supremely belligerent leader of israel in the various times that he's health power. but what we're seeing right now is he's the chief arsonist in the middle east, and he is on the loose. and i think what we're seeing is that a israel generally operates within a sand box. the parameters of which are defined largely by the united states, whether a democrat is in power or republican. i think that that in yahoo smells blonde

right now because joe biden is a lame duck president. netanyahu definitely is closer to donald trump, but i think that he feels that he is in the perfect position with biden is friend to for decades and a committed, a zionist. to run the game that he was wanted to run his entire career. he wants to draw the united states into war with iran. he wants to continue a war of annihilation against not just the palestinians of gaza, but also the west bank and his supreme prizes. can he draw the united states into a full over conflict with both has blah and iran? i guess in the case of a smile, honey, a. and i want to remind people he was the former prime minister of palestine, clearly headed the political wing of from us, but his assassination inside iran. very dramatic. and i'm just interested in what you think it ron's reactions to this will be, i mean this is,

this is an incredible upfront to around sovereignty. that's how it's being perceived in tech, ron, you know, and immediately you had the supreme leader of iran. he was walking up in the middle of the night and informed that there had been some form of an explosion that had taken place in the housing complex. where is miles india and the head of palestinian islamic jihad. the knox, lot of both of them were, were saying and this complex steve, this was a housing development that is controlled by the, the, the top military unit, the i r g c, all the iran. so this was striking right at the heart, not just of iran, but all of it's a supreme security for us. now, i think a lot of times when we talked about this, the equation is sort of upside down. how is it wrong going to respond? yes, that's a legitimate question and, and certainly iran is going to respond. but how should the world be responding to what is real and that yahoo have done right now? the key question is, is iran going to begin with some form of

a heavily telegraphed response? that's what happened some months ago as a, the is rarely struck. the iranian consulate in damascus, killed more than a dozen people, including 8 members of, of the elite, the revolutionary guard unit of iran. and, but the iranians, although they showered missiles and droned, strikes down on israel. they did so in a calculated manner, there was one death in, in that strikes. so the question here is, does iran escalate in response to this assassination on their soil and other attacks against it in line with what they've done in the past? who are we going to witness a precipice being cross? we're now iran actually takes the bait and said we're in and all our military conflict with israel. i think there's another dimension here which is remarkable that is real, just killed the person they were negotiating with. who, despite no matter what you think about him off honey, a was considered to be one of the most balanced and moderate deal makers of that

organization. am i wrong? i know you're not wrong. and in fact, let's remember that despite how the western media talks about from us, a mazda is much more than the o cosign brigades, the military unit of from us that launch the october 7th attacks against israel is not here, is not in a member of an armed forces, he is the head of a political movement. he is the chief of the masses political bureau. he is the former prime minister of palestine democratically elected by the palestinians of the occupied territory. so what israel is doing here, palms as we pass for 300 the day of its genocidal war in gaza. it comes as biden and anthony blinking, and jake sullivan and gold burns. are all saying, oh, you know, i don't believe you're lying here as when that yahoo says he's going to total victory, which means total destruction of gaza. we'd feel that

a ceasefire is in sight now. who comes back from his victory tour in the united states where he met not only the sitting president, but the democratic, i presume, democratic nominee for president campbell harris, and he goes tomorrow lago and pays as respects the donald trump. he goes back to israel. he green lights and assassination in the southern district of bay route, not just of a senior house block commander, but we understand that in iranian military advisor was also killed in that strike for other civilians and dozens of people. and before the civilians were killed, dozens of people wounded. so netanyahu, here's a response to bite and saying we think a ceasefire is inside, is to literally assassinate the chief negotiator and then vall, that he is not going to stop until when he defines this total victory. which is the other destruction of gaza and the lighting on fire of the entire region. yes, raises the question, it is real, has killed him, us leaders in the past, it killed the leader of hamas. the founder shake off,

met the scene and others in the past. but that never killed and knocked off from us as an organization is a movement as you've it's, and i think it's one of the most interesting elements here because of the way that, that netanyahu frames basically trying to obliterate hamas and others. i've talked to generals, you've talked to general david, betray us, and that is it from us as a move and even people who might want to be supportive of netanyahu disagree with the premise that you can basically wipe out a political movement. i love your thoughts and i know you've been talking to leaders in the region. both have boxes as long as you hot and others would love to get your sense of the temperature there. how are they feeling and seeing this moment? but let's just look at the ground reality. steven gaza. we've had 10 months of a scorched earth campaign from the air at times from the sea. a ground occupation in various parts of the gaza strip and palestinian islamic jihad and from us have waged a gorilla. insurgency war, where they've inflicted great damage on the,

is rarely military, despite the fact that they're operating with weapons. that overwhelmingly they have manufactured beneath gaza in tunnels. they're holding off a nuclear power backed by the united states in a war of attrition on the ground. and gaza, the killing of his mouth, m e a and home us and just allow me to you how to officials have been very clear in my discussions with them is not going to kill the armed resistance. and you know, the fact of the matter is if you look at the independent polling that has been done consistently over the past 10 months, the status of the leaders of tomas and pals sending his stomach, you have, have risen dramatically as the standing of mach mood of boss and the palestinian authorities have plummeted into almost non existent support in part for their corruption. and the view that the p a is, is essentially an agent of the as rarely occupation. but the fact is that the, the, the wind has shifted so dramatically that many palestinians in the occupied territories believe that the men who are taking up arms against israel are their

only option right now. this is the result of decades of american policy. and reading is really leaders. it's not just net and yahoo do what they please with palestinians killed them in large numbers. it's very clear that while you can assassinate leaders, you cannot kill a movement that exists because of 75 years, a war of an i. elation that israel has waged against the palestinians with american backing under democrats and republicans, or you just mentioned the victory tour, the victory lab that that prime minister is real pi mister netanyahu took in the us, seeing tomlin harris, seeing joe biden, seeing donald trump. i'm interested in how you think he's reading this moment about the political future of america, and whether there are substantial differences or not between now who is the presumptive nominee. com, la harris of the democratic party. and donald trump and how you see that moment

loved to know whether you see differences between commer harris and joe biden. there are differences. they're largely cosmetic, and i would say superficial. pamela harris and her top advisors have made clear that she has been a full participant in american policy uh over the past 10 months. harris herself is said that she shares, joe biden stated, iron clad commitment to what they call is real security. she herself has paid homage and, and pilgrimage to a pack the. the major is real lobby group. it's trying to defeat candidates that criticize israel. they're going after corey bush, they're going after l on omar. they're going, they go after anyone that even registers a pretty moderate dissent against us support a policy of israel. but what i think is interesting in the details here, clearly not in yahoo is much more politically aligned with donald trump. and donald trump has made all sorts of audacious statements about how you know he would

authorize be to finish the job. biden is a, is a predictable character. netanyahu has known him for 40 years. i think that yahoo was very happy to have way. a lame duck president and joe biden right now, because he can really push the envelope on biden's public protestations, and he's doing that he's daring by and actually cut him off, which i don't think by them is going to do. but what i think is most interesting is carmella harris, starting in november of last year, comma la harris was a figure that the administration started to put forward to register empathy for the suffering of the palestinians in a much more pronounced way than other administration officials. and when you guys started says i'm there for a minute, jeremy, i wanna, i wanna play a sound bike. and i think what you said is very, very important. and it's very different. it's something you know, when you're kind of like watching for these kind of, you know, distinct nuances between them. let's play a sound by then want to get your reaction to come on here and speaking. that it is time for this war to end and end in

a way where israel is secure. all the hostages are released, the suffering of palestinians and gaza ends. and the palestinian people can exercise their right to freedom, dignity, and self determination. so that last segment i'd love to get your thoughts and reaction to because it's something i haven't heard many officials from the white house so overly connect those 2 elements. yeah, i think man, yeah. who clearly views camo harris as the worst possible outcome of this election in terms of viable candidates that could actually when i'm but i would compare it a bit to netanyahu's view and brock obama. he knew that when it actually mattered on a military level, and even to a degree on a political level that um brock obama was going to be supportive of israel in line with bi partisan us iron clad support for the israeli government, regardless of who's in power but, but then on issues such as illegal settlements and perhaps on questions of

palestinian statehood. that's where i think you start to see some difference with a political figure like comma la harris. i want to be very clear though steve. pamela harris, his record indicates that she is a firm supporter of an aggressive, militaristic israel. but her rhetoric is the kind of sentiment that the israeli government typically does not like and nothing yahoo specifically had major problems with obama, largely because of his rhetoric and his stance. on settlements with obama took a very mild move key, abstained. he ordered his un investor to abstain on a vote condemning illegal annexation and settlements. and that was like, you know, the greatest of sins in the eyes of netanyahu. so let's, let's keep it all within perspective. carmella here is will be a firmly pro is real president who will support aggressive action that kills large numbers of palestinians. but she is going to put a, a slightly different spin on it. and i don't think these railways are gonna like

that. what do you think trump would do? you know, i, i've contemplated this a lot. i mean, you and i, you know, even talked about this last time. you know, we had a discussion. i think, you know, trump would have been a garish in his celebration of the mass slaughter of palestinians. i think it's possible we would have seen some form of overt us military support. perhaps jerome strikes against leaders of the cosign brigades, or from us because of the fact that there are some americans being held captive by whom us. i think you could have seen trump crossing over some lines that that binding was unwilling to. but i think it's important to remember that it would be pretty hard to top the level of support the joe biden has given for this scorched earth will have an i elation and gaza. i mean the is right. we have gotten every thing they want. there was one moment when biting symbolically pause the transfer of some 2000 pound bonds, and they made a big rock as a publicly about dropbox. but now who's gotten everything he wanted,

i largely seen the abraham accords effort. and then the ongoing efforts to bring more into it, particularly to even to normalize relations between the saudis and is real as part of a way to build a military alliance or military association if you will, in the region to deal with iran and, and that kind of take on if you will, iran and it and, and it's interest in the region. and i'm interested in, in whether that conflict between essentially the sunni, shia divide is exploding more quickly. now whether that, that's really what's at stake and that to some degree, those steps, these assassinations inside iran, are going to take us into a conflict that ro, essentially the sunni side of the air middle east into a bed with is real. taking on iran by the i think there's, there's 2 things here. you know, when i spoke to a senior officials within hamas and palestinian islamic jihad,

they emphasized that one of the motivations this, this was not the dominant motivation. but one of the motivations behind the october 7th attacks was in fact the abraham accords. as they saw it, the abraham accords which are directed by lateral normalization agreements between israel and era countries. um that it erased longstanding positions in the era of world that any deals with is real must come with a robust path to palestinian statehood. and these circumvented that so that, that's one part of this. the 2nd is that yes, nothing. yeah. who has tried to convince error countries in the region that iran is their real enemy and is even spoken of a kind of middle east nato to confront iran. but remember that as netanyahu was engaged in that rhetoric, what we have on the ground is the emergence of the access of resistance, which is iran on sir ally the who these in yemen. the islamic resistance in iraq has blah from us palestinian islamic jihad, they have

a coordinated operation center. they are essentially the answer to the kind of alliance that 1st trump now biden have tried to push through with netanyahu. and i think it's a recipe for it for extraordinary escalation and violence in war and the region netanyahu just a month before the october 7th, the tax, in fact that it was just 2 weeks before was speaking of the un. and he held up a map of the middle east and palestine didn't exist on it. and he so said, oh, this is the great, he sort of compared it to, you know, this great thruway that was going to connect asia in the middle east with europe. and that israel is the key player. and that at the center of it is an alliance against iran. the us is playing with fire right now, long ago they could have cut this off and guides us by saying no more weapons for you. that's something no american president is that we could imagine winning right now is going to do, but we're watching a genocide unfolding. and finally, i just want to say this, steve, i'm on al jazeera. the assassination of it's male alcohol is,

is one of the most horrific crimes against journalism that i've seen. l g, 0 arabic score. hispanic was decapitated while he was doing his job. a $160.00 plus of our colleagues have been killed. several of them from out to 0. i'm so glad that i've been gorski beach was freed from a russian prison. i've advocated for his release. i think it's shameful that so many of our american and british and western journalist, the colleagues have been silent in the face of a mass murder campaign against our fellow journalists in gaza. and alta 0 has paid an enormous price and i want to stand in solidarity with the journalists of al jazeera, who are the eyes and ears of the world and have been murdered for doing their jobs . well obviously this the news room appreciate your words and thanks, i think every time, not only an al jazeera journalist has been killed, but many other journals have been killed, covering this war and conflict in gaza. it is shaking the ground. i sit in

washington dc, but you can feel feel that there. and i think it's extremely important and very much appreciated. let me ask you, jeremy, have you been in discussions? i know if you've talked to various leaders in the region, but i am interested in other elements here that we often no talk, but you just mentioned has blah and, and house on us for all i've had a has blog, has basically said that the nature of their conflict with israel is now, but the change that the killing of flagship, who are a military commander, is now meant they are going to go into a different phase moving from sort of small time here in their attacks to something much more significant. so it's another indication you sort of talked about it wrong, you know, a highly telegraphed approach. at one point i beginning to see a lot of telegraphing from leaders that this is about to get much, much worse. yeah, i mean, part of, of the untold story here is that both iran and has the last have shown a tremendous amount of restraint in the face of a disproportionate is really a tax against their assets, their people, their territory. and, you know,

that's one part of this that nobody ever everyone's talked about because it's politically incorrect. i mentioned that fact. but the reality is, as the law is not from us, has the law has a bi, most estimates at least a 100000 fighters. well trained uh, over the past decade has moved toward a more conventional armed force. they have well over a $150000.00 missiles and rockets, pretty much every weapon system that the iranians have. hezbollah has, as well as manufacturing its own drones. in fact, a just 2 weeks ago has the law started to a published drone footage that they had taken of targets both military and civilian objects in israel as a warning to the israeli regime. that if you come at us and you start going outside of the informally agreed to area of conflict, we're going to hit you back hard in a place that you're not expecting. i think everything is on the table right now

from has the last mr. roll up is, is a very, very sophisticated thinker. he's a powerful orator and he understands the, as really a government very, very well the, the, the, the ball is in their court right now. and i think ms rela is waiting not just the short term consequences. but is this going to lead to what many in the region have talked about as the great war that they believe could unravel the state of israel? what, what do you think happens in terms of us equities? if the nightmare that you've been worried about actually comes to, to be are, you know, i would answer that by saying the following. um, you know, i think that if you look at people like see, i director william burns, who knows the region very, very well. and you look at a, a career military officer like the defense secretary, lar, lloyd austin. if you read between the lines of, of what they've been saying over these past 10 months, they are deeply concerned about what israel is doing. the fact is that the united

states wants to maintain a robust military presence in the region. it also wants to pivot away from having to deal with wars throughout the middle east because it, it's prioritizing potential conflict with china. it's dealing with the russian war and ukraine right now, which is also to a degree of proxy war that the us is involved with. and so i think there are vulnerable u. s. military and economic assets in the region that motivate the concerns from people like burns and in austin. but they, they, they also feel like this is ruining their major pivots toward china. and that if they get embroiled in and is rarely lead war, that sets the middle east further on fire, that this is going to be bad for the business of the american empire. i don't think there's anything about a terry and motivation here. i think these are our people that are looking at american power in the world and how this could affect it. well, this will have to end up there. i'm going to congratulate you on your new site,

drop site news, co founder jeremy scale, hope. thank you so much for joining us today. thanks steve, and thank you everyone involved 0. so what's the bottom line? human life is the bottom line. last week is really forces killed. 2 more journalist from al jazeera is smile. i'll go and his camera man rami, i'll repeat, we're both fearless journalist who literally gave their lives so that the world can see what's going on and gaza, just like everyone else there. they had lost their homes and their family members and had been constantly moving around, hoping for a safer place all while dealing with a hunger and deprivation that has been imposed by israel, broken smile, and rami were 27 years old. they joined the ranks of so many other palestinian journalists who have lost their lives, trying to tell this story, including 2 others from al jazeera summer abo dock out last year and sure when i walk with the year before that. so the question is, why, what is it about telling the story the earth is real to know and, and if governments like is real,

are allowed to continue on this path on punished. what happens when no one is around to shed light on the dark violin corners of the world? i think we all know the answer to that question. the world is becoming mean or more vicious, more selfish and less human. and that's the bottom line. the of surfers around the world? no. okay, hold on. a famous wave crashes on the reef just offshore, but the olympic games are turning this paradise upside down. not everyone sees the benefits of hosting the competition. it serves as publish it to you for them. a minimum part of the population, profit from the games were used to common nature. now we're seeing cars and trucks every way. people here are also worried about long term damage to the environment. a controversial new judging tower built on the coral reef. olympic control center,

feeling what used to be fields of crumbs with rocks and temporary 10. it doesn't matter if you're on a boat, a surfboard or you live in the village. most people aren't getting close to the actual residents need accreditation. spectators one passes through a lottery and there's been complaints. some people saying their home no longer feels like their home. adding to the question of whether this will all be worth it when the olympics have packed up and less. as china ramps up to potations. if north korean defective human rights groups say they face imprisonment, torture, and even death in the country. in desperation, some involve dangerous journey. 101 east reveals the north korea's clean defectors on al jazeera. as the cost of over celebrates the 25th anniversary of nato's intervention that ended the fighting between the serbian and cause of albany and forces. we were meant to be completely ethnically, cleanse people are power,

examines the posts for landscape, and present the challenges for the regions youngest country. this is a vibrant nation states that is a live today because we took no attraction that's not possible the making of a states on that. just so you know, in the end to live with anger and bitterness, the hatred it, it each you up inside and i can tell you the doesn't. that's parents. you asked to be able to, that go to go for the journey was a great success. but there's no success until you've achieved the actual thing that you set out for that is the release, at least of the one present that we've been focusing on. on a personal level, i think returning to this place as being the it's just a dream to the background. part of it was a nightmare. so it's a nightmare and a dream come together. i think the dream has overtaken the night.

the coming of harris and her newly chosen running mates size up their republican rivals . donald trump is not fighting for you or your family. he never set it back kitchen table like the one i grew up at the time about this, and this is obviously a life from dell. i'm also coming up israel's most wanted by named gaza is now officially the new political chief of homeless. so in together whatever they can find, the tailors helping palestinians who lost nearly ever since the war on bangladesh has interim government appoints a nobel laureates. chief advisor.