welcome to simmons and exclude does under the redesigns luxury living, crafting a future today, we create the u. s. approved. so major weapons sell to israel, also calling for an end to its warrant casa, with another round to see spot talks in the works intentions running high in the middle east. is peace possible and can diplomacy work? this is inside story, the hello that on james bays. mediators are hoping to kick start cease fund negotiations between israel and home us the 2 sides to be mulling a us back proposal for more than 2 months. in direct toll signals advanced

extensively during that time, and sticking points remain. meanwhile, there's no laptop and is really a tax on casa and fears of an old out regional involving iran. and its proxy is have searched the us secretary of state and the blinking has postponed his trip to the middle east box. he's approved a $20000000000.00 on sale to israel. what does this mean for finalizing a c spot and gaza? i'll discuss all of this, and i'll guess in a moment, but 1st this report from victoria gave me each day a new whole row. so the people have gone to the bombing around the gauzy refugee camp is the latest. the attack came hours after the by the ministration approved. the sale of weapons was 20000000000 dollars to his row, and while the us public schools for cease firing, garza, when you diplomatic efforts are intensifying, president joe biden says he hopes a deal may stuff who ran from attacking israel doesn't see what happens.

the expectation. the chance is israel's war and goes and may escalate into a regional conflict of increased since the assassinations of a senior hezbollah figuring a route and the political leader of i'm asked into a rand 2 weeks ago. we need a ran and beyond groups. blame israel for the killings which many see is a major blow to negotiations on ending the war in gaza. as its political leader is smell, and the head represented thomas in discussions about the sci fi do that would include the release of israeli captives. we've seen the reports of what they have said as it relates to their participation. our partners and connor have the shirts that

they will work to have from us represented critics of israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu accused him of schooling and agreement for political gain. as he faces schools to step down, israel has confirmed its negotiates his will attend a new round of tools scheduled for thursday, but us secretary of state tends to be blinking, has postponed his trip to the region. the united states can do something right now, not to uh, you know, a p, israel by providing you with more weapons. here's more what the police stop using the know how about you just deny the sale, denied any future aid to israel and also in worse, not just called for us the spark but and forces the spar in gaza palestinians. and during relentless bombardment, repeated displacement and growing hunger and disease, though he wait to see if this latest attempt to break a piece becomes reality. victoria gates and b l just interested inside story.

well i guess today didn't see knowledgeable about the palestinian israeli conflict . joining us from washington, d. c, with joined by act boss shaheed, ahmed, the senior diplomatic correspondent for huff post. he's been covering the u. s. policy on gauze of since the obama administration. in montreal 1000000 rabbani is a non resident fellow at the center of conflict and humanitarian studies is also served at the united nations. all of at least conflicts at a senior level and intel of a lonely l. a format is ready. diplomat who's previously served as director general and spokesman for these right. for mystery. thank you. all 3 of you for joining us today. all of been on this program. i know before, let me start with you along. we have 2 things or more than 2 things, but 2 important things into different directions, potentially the potential of something good with new, see spot tools and then the possibility of iran responding militarily. the possibility of a regional role. people have told me they have

a sense of fear and full boating right now. how dangerous is this moment? let's say it's about a 2 ways of 10 days now that we are looking at the sky. well, the environment, the mesa county, everybody's ready for the ryan overseas follow together, this falls and the so and then the for being full smile on tomorrow. hey, there is a time between the dogs being cut off tomorrow and the success and the wrong you use by law with thoughts. and this is very interesting because that i seem to be my as my may be also down there against, by a day such a way that we say they were specifically coming damage people. and the, the, the, the way you might be,

as seen as the responsibility on the sides or ways where they saw everybody, we see the body. but there is a critical day tomorrow for the surgery, or no the for the wrong increased by the risk of those. and obviously you talk about the worry, the intel of a clearly that why are you a shed by people across the region? of course, people in gaza see every single moment, but in lebanon, in a rom, they're out there. a fee is across the region as well. let's look at what's leaving in the next few days from a washington d. c. perspective where you all, i'm not going to ask you about what wrong might do. we'll come to that later. but it's really guesswork. the tools that are looming in doha. what do you think the chances of that and also the us secretary of state, he was coming to the region. it seems for now to of his phone, can you shed some light on that?

it has to be changed. i think the full alignment ministrations. what are you asked in this moment? august 15th has become me called 3 days, which is a decision that they me and just write to kind of all the summit. but there's a lot of pressure, unimportant me to do it just a few days before the democratic convention, a major moment in the election season. here in the us, from the administration of this back to that whole being, having this, the having this intent is focused on having multiple countries about the egypt. but also you are getting countries to all 4 to 5 people now will create pressure on israel class. but to the point of what, what the actual leverage sides for the us we've seen now this $20000000.00 the sale of israel. we've seen several steps for recent days that it undermine fees in the us and $0.88. yeah. right. so what i'm hearing kind of from the other side, the side which, which has very is um it concerns with this deal is that they don't see the us

accidental exchange. yeah, i think lincoln's decision on this trip is interesting from that point of view because he's buying this dean as, as a bit of a hollow, saying that this point, he visited a region so many times will talk to us that it will be having seen progress we have seen repeated promises of progress. i think the most notable thing about c, i a drug to build bonds is planning to be in her. she's very much seen as somebody who can deliver it to you. but if you don't have the political will and the images to have, if somebody is very sign on somebody modified which by not seeing, i don't have the us is going to walk out on august 15 with the outcome b. c, which is extremely alarming. because just from a broader perspective, as or what mentioned hunger and these are spreading, right, we can see the potential huge humanitarian crisis that implicates us just a couple of months before the election. and is that really what, pressing bite, and what's behind him by his presence on the highest, was running on a very upbeat campaign, right? who's really trying to change the tone of the conversation?

you, as does us love to be seen as promised in this impracticable, above the wall and potentially equally its own troops at risk grain in iraq in syria. if the iranian concentration expands. busy as the writings which you talk to the nation, but it's easier to have the us or some of the process rather than the very frankly, which is the risk. as many people here in washington thinking about last week. and i'd like to bring you in to talk about your views on the chances of success at this deal. but it's worth, i think, reminding people watching this. but this has been going on for a very, very long time. they've been so many of these talks and they've taken place and the president biden back in may, the last day of may, he announced what are the comb tools of a deal? listen to this. this is truly a decisive moment. here's those made their proposal. how much as it wants to cease fire? this do is an opportunity to improve whether they really need

a mouse needs to take the deal. for months, people over the world of call for cease fire. now it's time to raise your voice is demand. as i saw mos coming to the tape graces this deal. and then this for that they began, well that was present by and then he gave details of this deal that was gonna be 3 phases 90 days. long 1st phase of c spa withdrawal from the big populated areas release of a number of is really captives moving in return for many palestinian prisoners. and he said it wasn't his riley deal. it was, it was, it was, it was a us deal. actually, how mass accepted it. i'm not in your who didn't. well, i think we have to look at these talks as essentially a us is really charade. which is being conducted in order to achieve the

objectives that are essentially on related to the motives that are being presented for many months. the uh, the us and israel engaged in this process as a fig leaf to give his real cover to continue it's genocide will campaign in the gaza strip of somewhat a can to the oslo process. and the 19 ninety's, which under the cover of the diplomacy, 1st and foremost, served as a fig leaf for israel to continue its process of settlement expansion and the consolidation of his really rule and the occupied territories. so he could be just to be clear. mean, when you say it's a charade, do you not to leave the israel at this moment? sorry, the us at this moment want say spa, do you believe they don't? they want us to fail. that is that what you'll say? well, i was about to get to that point because i think what's changed now is,

is that washington's objective with these talks is, is not just to keep them going for the sake of enabling israel's genocidal assault and the gaza strip. but rather it's subjective now is to seek to prevent or at least minimize the prospect of an all regional can flag ration resulting from iranian lebanese and potentially other retaliations against israel. for 2 reasons, the attacks across the region. and i think the objective here is to have these talks. would washington like to like them to succeed? i'm sure there are those in washington that would like them to succeed. but we also know that they're not going to succeed, as was just said without us pressure on israel. and there is absolutely no indication that pressure is coming. now if we view this from the perspective of seeking to prevent or minimize the,

the reprisals against israel for its recent assassinations, then i think we need to look at these talks. the deployment of additional us forces to the region and the reason $20000000000.00 us arms deal with israel. not so much as contradictory developments, but as parts of the same policy to hello. as we've said, this was a bite and proposal at the end of may. it was even endorsed by the un security council in a resolution then in june, how most accepted it, just bring us up to date, the nets and yahoos problems. well with this. what on next? and you know, who's new conditions. in the last few months, there was no change on the check. the whole both sides, the main players, one goal, the, you know, the other one is close to wow. wow, wow, was the war now?

will be there to do you want to free to do, you know, golden girls are into it the way it's needed. and if this can be bridge by the mazda stays, because there is no minimal amount of glass between the size. the both sides look really plus the is the size or the full, eh, the. so we have stuck on this issue. and we want to just back the, you know, a, i see home us easy way to get the get to school and the but the issue is that the of the code. okay. all right

bar on that, all the to guess all saying that nothing you all who is deliberately undermining this deal. what do you hear rings ever in washington? all the people in the state department or the white house at some point, who are prepared to say that netanyahu is the obstacle to piece. and i think blaming that in yahoo, it is doable for the us. and the station you've seen a pretty hoss when it's come out, the come out of pressing the button that you've been using cost was i got something . yeah. but i think that there's a real difference between a rhetorical assault and that in yahoo, in kind of a bus lising this issue and taking a broad, a holistic approach and saying, well what are the conditions under which israel going to consent withdrawal from dasa and wouldn't any of those requirements to be doing it? i think from the us of the spec to personalizing it's nothing. yeah. who is easy but thinking about how do we reach

a post or scenario that's acceptable. it's about israel, that's some of the i'm us. it's really hard and even though the 49 customers are 10 months, so i don't think that i think you could see them at some point come out and have more name holding or abusive netanyahu. i don't think you're going to see us in ministration. both support for israel in a meaningful way that changes the motor is really political calculus. and then from the mazda perspective, the us doesn't have a drag link that i think along the way it was. i was very assume that the media does not trusted very much, and the us doesn't have a direct channel to talk to him us. i think just the final point is, is also it is looming shadow. i'll be less lucky, bring back j gosh. but also some subset over here, because there's a real sense at this point that netanyahu maybe with the clock on for some time, right, that he was extremely close to the present from the republican nominee. meanwhile, it went again in november and meanwhile, aladdin, yahoo, a free hand to do whatever he wants and does that even be on what he's done so far?

so i think that's a real c a that yes, the concrete pressure, i guess they can schedule meetings. they will schedule that the sales have kind of try to signal what a us as a shot as real is. but media is real, just isn't listening at all because they're saying, well someone else is coming in and we just don't care about pressing by them is i can see, i think the very skill every prospect for his team, which is just some of the green good saves really trying to end this and just for a safe saving reason, a lot, even for humanitarian, more low, even strategic reasons alone. maybe you could um, enlighten us a little bit on the internal is riley dynamics of this because i even see around now between nets and yahoo and you'll have collab, the defense minister to man, the international criminal court of prosecutor once charged with war crimes. got a glance saying that nothing you know, who's totally total victory slogan is nonsense and less. and you also know whose

office cooling galant for out for his m t. israel narrative. what's going on here? i'm, can you just paint a picture for us? if this coalition collapses, because of a see spot deal, what then happens to nets and yahoo? because i think it's important context, this is not collapsing. no blakely into not a nice way to pay the 4 months. it seems the speech in gold rush. so is a standing ovation over the, there's the key that people start to say, this is the. so the magician is becky, down. the right way is stronger than the always good to shines on. the polls off a,

when the polls are asking to see if brian really said last time, you know these about everybody else like this situation a month ago. so it seems very profitable. the degree is the sales to people say, oh do you we saw this this because they don't, don't know the way to do the oil change for us. yeah. most of the things on the the, the y'alls 1st of all. right. cool, cool vouchers. it's a the diesel, they say the best all a but there is no i the solutions to the out way. gosh to the base. okay. how do i make maybe it kind of just at the point that i was,

i was putting a moment to go. what would it do to his public, a rating, his views of, of these really public is biting. what's to actually say netanyahu is the problem. that's why you are not getting a c spot. that's why the captives and not being released. either way, the, the to say to the young lady was leaves. so what she gave me that they did not need to know the, sorry, bobbie bowie was to say no, by the hour. however, this is very grateful for the reason. maybe there was a pause by him, but she stepped with the something. all right, and it's easy to see it. the stage was the wrong. yeah. the spotlight, but even say this is this one. change in body to say look,

you won't be around. so any time i call she's back home. it will be in the week. yeah. okay. let's spring and move it my you know, on the, on those us, um sales. because, i mean, looking at this at the time when the international criminal court has made its rulings, when we've got war crimes charges against tops is rarely lead us to be giving these items is, is, it is something that many, many people will, would condemn, but also if you're looking at just an you, you, what for united nations and you look at a bit of diplomacy with mediation, you know, taking place isn't us just days before these talks giving away diplomatic leverage . well, why should we be looking at this as the united states shooting itself in the foot rather than the united states,

acting in its own interests and seeking to promote those interests? i mean, we had the absolutely bizarre spectacle a day or 2 ago of us secretary of state antony, blinking, lauding the geneva conventions on the, on the commemoration of their 75th anniversary. reaffirming what he claims is, is us commitment to those conventions, then merrily going off and signing off on a 20000000000 arm steal to a genocidal regime that was recently followed by the international court of justice to basically have violated on the most fundamental principles of the geneva convention, i think what you know, if you take the combination of these talks, which as, as was just know that our serving to postpone or minimize or perhaps even prevents altogether retaliation against israel's assassinations together with this arms deal together with the deployment of the us nuclear powered

submarine and other ships to the region. so it's quite clear that these are consistent. and it's quite clear that the united states is looking at israel, not only in terms of their bilateral relationship and what has been the history of unconditional us support for israel. but it is also looking at it in a broader geo political context. meaning that it wants to ensure that that is real, holds its own against the wrong and that it is the wrong that comes out drawn the short end of the straw in any potential conflict between the 2. so, you know, um, uh yes, um, you know, judging by the recent 50 standing ovations and the us congress for nets and y'all and so on. and you can make all kinds of legitimate comments about how far off the rails of the us political leaders. but at the same time, we also, i think,

need to take very seriously the possibility that they know what they're doing and they're seeking to achieve what they want to achieve. rather than always looking at us policy a somehow contradicting us priorities and contradicts the us address. one last point for any of this to change, it would require genuine us leverage on the us. us are sorry on, on is real and a little deal just made the point that nothing. yeah. whose popularity and political position has been improving precisely because there is no, there are no us consequences or repercussions for it is really a long term just in terms of its actions. well, i don't foresee any scenario including the failure of the talks this week that would lead to a fundamental and meaningful shift and in the us position on this issue. all right,

well let me bring you in on millions points that the us may actually be doing what it wants to do and knows what it's doing. what will you keep bringing up the, the electro, a part of this and, and we've got less than a few days till november the 5th. do you think couple of harris would like to see a ceasefire or not? and what would it mean for the election if the us got dragged into some regional war in the, in the coming weeks? but let's just say quickly, i do want to have this goal of the point about the broader us elizabeth stablish about instruction at the top. so the site, that's what you need. i came out and said, i see the i see, right? so you're very much seeing a deliver is a deliberate us. sorry. it involves nothing. yahoo is the problem. we don't want to talk about the us israel relationship or the palestinian question. let's just try to be met and yeah, with lots of deeper over this i think that would be the ideal for the administration. sure. what sort of what happens if they got the problem situation

get some sort of at least sellable when. right? it doesn't have to be a mutual plan, it's about the americans. what else don't need to know the details and frankly, probably don't care about the details of reconstructions or accountability for products any if uh, if they can just say we stopped the guns, we sought the bombs. that would be a huge win for vitamin as a higher as conversely, if that doesn't happen, i think you'll see things really ugly a few months. donald trump has seen a huge noise about leaning wrongly, that he didn't thought any, was the escalated the vast majority of us on the sites. and he brought us very close to multiple was including, particularly when they're on the that these are above the control. the point and bite and highest theme now indicated not just an atrocity of nonsense october side of the hundreds hot ation, but also in a big hole in the, on the board. that doesn't involve us troops and us casualties in iraq. and sir,

yes, i don't see how they come back from that i think, but not really reach focus is higher. so we'll try to do is differentiate highest attack on the campaign trail from washington. the white house, the state department of hired as the vice president, innocent ministration running as part of policy. should that be a more difference? and it's just not possible, right? can closes right away. and i think it's given the highest hasn't shown any meaningful difference from by who, in terms of policy booby or towards me. but she happens when i was these, then you got sold us, sorry to be minds things. look you've actually less than tensions. you haven't heard us saying we don't want to get courtney's was anymore. i mean really received . yeah, for the i about thank you very much. thank you to all guess. all right, ball shaheed ahmed who and rabbani and a lonely al. i'll just say we're a has teams and gaza and across the region, and you can find detailed analysis on out. is there a dot com? we want to hear your views to go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash 8 inside story, or ex, tangled, sweetest, well at

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