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the whole, the justice system, specifically, he wants to replace the entire supreme cool, and then pick a new set of justices along with 1600 other federal judges, the magistrates. and he wants to do it, but popular vote. he says it will clear out, don't you judges you'll get, get in with us, go to the keys. what we want to do is correct and disappear, corruption above all at the top level, judges and justices natural, but many of them been organized crime. so it gives in want color criminal go freight who makes can judge you say that putting positions up to the recipient dependence. so did you dish or explain that though, like with this means that everyone in the district will have to go on campaign to become a judge, to be independent and be able to judge someone. i have to be in a position completely isolated from the center of power in the country. and right now it's the other way around. they pushing us closer to the world of power business, political parties. but most people believe the mex chris justice system. does me
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change almost cough of mex, can say they have little or very little confidence in the justice authorities. and you can see the sign is a protest against the supreme court, which we just outside. but what seems like a failed system? is it really the judge is the problem? not so says pilot matthew yochi from human rights, which the main problem in mexico is just the system, isn't that judges are corrupt. it's not that courts are corrupt. it's that mexican prosecutors who are supposed to investigate and prosecute all crimes are just not very good at investigating and prosecuting crimes only around 10 percent of all of the investigations that are opened every year. actually lead to criminal charges before the court. only around 10 percent of those cases. so one percent of all of the cases actually lead to a trial and the vast majority of investigations even into really serious
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crimes like homicides disappear and says human rights abuses are just archived or closed without being solved. 15 minutes or so noticeable the supreme court, which the president wants to replace, has been one of the few institutions that is provided opposition to his plans. so that now he looks public. congressional majority needs to change them out in a vote expected to for his term and see some type of june home. and i would just say to mexico city, lots it from me sort of side of the news continues here on out to sara, off the bottom line, the
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the hi, i'm steve clements, i have a couple of questions has come over here is scramble the us presidential race and is she on the road to the white house? let's get to the bottom line. the former president, donald trump, and current vice president, comma la harris, have a few more months to convince the american people that they shouldn't be there. next president, the polls say their neck and neck for now, but with about 80 days to go, both candidates still have more than enough time to attract more voters or lose them. so we've major issues facing the united states from immigration in the southern border to america's policy towards palestine and israel to the economy. you name it, which way is this race going? who to americans trust and the like more and do their vice presidential choices.
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center j. d. vance and governor tim walt matter at all. today we're talking with david casting these national politics corresponded for mcclatchy's and simon rosenberg. a democratic party strategist, thanks to both of you for joining us. let me start with you, david. yeah, i think just a few weeks ago, not only were the polls showing it, but i think donald trump probably felt he had this race down, that he was going to win and prevail or over president biden. what's happened in since those last few weeks? every things happen, um, obviously the big switch, the big swab, it's amazing, go back in 6 months ago. people are saying is could never happen to bind was going to be a nominate. it was a conspiracy theory to think that anyone else would be the democratic nominee. and here we are. we're on day 25, a comma harris has campaign, and i don't think she's had a bad day. the biggest enemy of kama harris has campaign right now, is there's 80 days to go. and as we know, going back to 2016 in particular,
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a lot can happen in those last 80 days. but man, you couldn't ask for a better 1st 34 weeks going to next week's democratic convention. they probably get another good week out of that just by 1 august. i think september, i just wrote this on my sub savings of timber is probably the best opportunity for publicans to get that momentum back. and that's going to be at the 1st debate. do you think donald trump is feeling the pressure? absolutely, i mean, if you watched him in his rally the other day in north carolina and i watched it very closely, his advisors said they wanted to give an economic speech to bracket. come on. harris's economic speech in north carolina also taking place this week. and he basically complained about it, he got mad the cheese on the cover of time magazine. she's not giving interviews, he's talking about immigration, he's talking about how she's not very smart. he was completely off message and you can tell he was frazzled because he was also citing poles. don't really use this. most polls public polls out there right now for comma
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r as in the lead in the battleground states. places like pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, and trump with signing polls that we're not sure about, but that he was a head. so i think he's definitely frazzled knows he's losing, he's not going to admit that, but his actions on his stone tell him, sign me, let me go to you and ask you about how the democrats are feeling right now. and i don't have to just, you know, be honest, i think a lot of americans, despite her being vice president, did not really know. kimberly harris were unfamiliar with her accomplishments. at least that's my view. and i'm interested in the fact that she has done so extraordinarily well. you've seen the pulse, major mileage when it comes to shifting independent voters and other democrats that may have been sitting on out, you know, on the sidelines of this race. who would love to get your sense of what democrats are feeling right now and what you yourself think about the combo la harris candidacy? yeah, i mean, democrats are really excited and there's incredible energy. i don't know that i've actually ever felt the kind of energy we feel right now. even going all the way back to the obama campaign in 2008. you know, we've not only had we taking
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a solid and meaningful lead in polling, but the flow of money and volunteers into both in the harris campaign in all democratic campaigns, up and down. the ticket is also made our party much stronger and more powerful than we were even a month ago in terms of just closing out these last 3 months of the election. and so i think we're very optimistic. i think we all though, understand that elections as david are saying anything can happen in this age of trump and that, you know, we need to keep her head down and doing the work. but i think one of the things that people underestimate, i believe, is the success that we've been having since since dobbs, 2 years ago, there's been, we have consistently in all these special lots of mid term elections off your electrons, every type of collection. we have been over performing expectations and republicans have been struggling. there's been sir, one basic electoral dynamic in place in the country since dobbs. and now this election is starting to feel like what data like,
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all those other electrons that we've been having over the last 2 years. we're democrats are on the front foot, run off in square unified. we're strong, unbelievable amount of volunteers and money. more money than republicans far better political operation, republicans and then they're saying is struggling. and what david was saying is that i think it's hard for people who don't live in the united states to realize just how um, what, how difficult a time the trump campaign is. happening right now, i mean, they are melting down. they're barely doing any events. every time term speaks, he's creating negative news and negative stories for the campaign. there's incredible division inside the republican party, unprecedented division. so you know, we're unified, strong, optimistic. they're a big mess. and i'd much rather be asking them and these closing months. well, let me push you a little bit on that on that unity a. um, uh, observation and ask you, you know, how unified it really will be, you know, going into the convention. we've seen some interesting outcomes where some of the most left members of the democratic caucus,
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corey bush and jamal bowman have both lost their primaries. we've just seen l 100 omar in minnesota when and which receipt of sleep when, who are members of the so called squad, so they want them. so there is this perception that not every thing is copacetic and unified within the democratic party, or is that something that i'm overstating? so i've been working in democratic politics since the late 19 eighties. the democratic party has never been more unified right now than in any time since i've been in the business. i mean, of course, in a big time, american political party, they're going to be things going on internally. but man, are we fully be looking at what she wrapped up the nomination within a couple of days of getting into the race? i mean, david was talking about sort of the serendipity and certainly extraordinary things that we've all witnessed here. but one of them was that the party just organically rally behind her, so aggressively in those early days. that was not a foregone conclusion. i mean, there could have been very divisive internal democratic politics. i mean, i think for months, many of us have been kind of tip toeing around the age issue and politics. how to
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talk about how to talk about president biden's age. we finally became more robust than it has this now flipped on donald trump, we're now he's the old guy, and people he raised age more than anyone else in the air when it was still biting . and trump does the age issue matter that no, i think it's less about age and more about trump's inherent instability and his instincts for k. i mean yes, he is much older than harris about 20 years. but i think the fact that parents just replaced by it and she's really a blank slate, right. she didn't have good approval ratings as a vice presidential candidate. she was not a good presidential candidate when she ran her own in 2019. she had to drop out before the voting began, if she or she is now just because she is not joe biden. and to his point before about the democratic unity, the unity came just because it was not joe biden. and i think use this part of that,
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but trust problem is that he's old. it's that he says things that are off the wall and he says offensive things. and that i think is the inherent problem. i mean, he can have a 2 hour rally and they can take talk with the economy and it hit on some of the points. and some of the points i think are, are legitimate questions to, to put a comma harris. why didn't you fix the economy while your vice president? what are you doing now? what about your record in office? you've been there for 3 and a half years. but then he enders off message and talks about wild, crazy theories, a lot skews out a lot of false hood. and that is not a message that is consistent in discipline and penetrates to the public. so i mean, i'd love to get your thoughts on, on this age question as well. but let me add something by news to talk that them along the lines of democracy itself was at stake. and that what mike com is fascism, the end of this nation is we know it, she just kind of laughs that off. and basically it's talking about kitchen table
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economics, you know, right? not wanting to go back in the past. and i'm interested in whether you agree with the own thing and you know, is that, is that kind of optimistic, even more humorous frame, something that works in this, in this toxic environment? well, she did something really powerful and i remember i disagree with david a little bit of that. she was just not not to abide. and i think that she came out of the box very, very strong and her positioning of forward and backward of not going back were going forward. took us out of the political dimension. i think this is really important, right? this is not a left, right conversation. it's not an ideological conversation. it's an inclusive conversation, is that this desire, as obama and as clinton, that to be an optimist about the future and to want to bring the whole country along with her. and the, the end to end to make the case that we can't go backwards. and i think that it also then reinforce trump's page. and his sort of reactionary politics in the sense that they're trying to strip away rights and freedoms. i mean,
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the 2nd thing she did though i was the core foundational value for campaign is freedom. and that's an implicit, you know, an implicit explicit critique of what the republicans are trying to do to strip rights and freedoms away and, and our democracy for all time, which is literally their agenda. and so i do think she's going there, but in a slightly different way. and let's be clear. freedom is the foundational value of the mountain democratic party since the for freedom speech and 1941. she's tapping into a deep recivore or something deeply powerful for the country that we all want. i think it's greater freedom. so i think that part of the reason she's doing so well is yes, she created a far better frame one that fits who she is. california and younger going forward and has now made trump look small and backward leading and, and i think it's been very effective assignments because i just challenge on is just also whitewashed, her position on everything. she was for medicare for all in 2020. she says she's
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not for that anymore. it was against tracking or that that's none of that matters of minutes. but why does it matter or isn't it in this? because she's been vice president in this administer, right? so then she had and so on. so she was born in ministration and the crime is tristan's failures on immigration, on inflation, on rising food prices. and i think is she hasn't taken any of these questions yet. the challenge i would have been calling her is right now. she hasn't been through the me, cried her. she's not taking questions, she's not doing it. and there's a reason for that. time is right. she's ahead strategically. that's right. but with who is pamela harris? nobody really knows. she's what anyone. everyone. anyone who you want her to be, that is who comfortable. i also think just to just add into this for a minute, but now it's a tight race. and in this, there are a lot of americans that are saying they missed donald trump, cuz gas was a dollar gallon cheaper back then that the, the, you know, the, the dynamics of a more expensive economy. inflation are still out there, resonating with a lot of americans who may not be watching political talk shows. so i'm just
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interested in that dynamic as well. yeah, i mean look, there's no question that she's going to be running on the record this ministration . and we should be loud and proud about it, because this has been one of the best economies in american history. stock market is over 40000 right now. we're the best job market. since the 1960 is the lowest uninsured rate in american history, we have unprecedented amounts of domestic investment in manufacturing. and then in the clean energy revolution, we have no reason to run away from anything that we've done. i mean, right now border flows are lower than they were under trump, the crime rates, and finally, crime rates and murder rates are, are far lower than they were under trump. i mean, the country is far better off today, and we just have to go make the case. and as, and as david is aware, the financial times that a bo this week, the show to the 1st time, the democratic candidate for president was ahead of the republican candidate on the economy. this was a devastating problem for donald trump. and so whatever they were running against before, we're in a very new place. democrats are not on the defensive of what we've done. we're very
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proud of the, by the harris administration. we have an incredibly strong track record to run on. but if there are problems like they're going to win this election by running on the border, i can show you what happened in 2018 when donald trump ran the mid terms and immigration, we won by 8 and a half points. and so we're not scared of any of these debates. we're confident that we can perry them. we can win them and we can defeat donald trump entity pants . david, i want to ask you a little bit about the meat grinder the honeymoon period. we're in right now, maybe through the convention. what will the meat grinder be comprised, though, she's taking a couple of questions on the tarmac, very rudimentary stuff and you know, i get why they're not doing it, but i think it comes to the end in the end of august, right? she's going to get through the convention. maybe the democrats get a little bump out of that were in the 1st. she says she's going to do an interview . maybe it's just, you know, a joy read someone that's going to be sympathetic to combat hers. but eventually, i think she's gonna have to take those questions unless they're gonna go in that
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1st debate and it's going to be trump. and if you know who knows what donald trump shows up on september 10th, but that's why i think this will be the seminal moment in the campaign. 10 trump deliver a chris case against the by just paris administration, who has our time harris divide. everything's that'd be tied to by and can he do that? i'm not sure he can do it. i'm not saying he's able to do it. but harris if he's able to go throughout this campaign without taking any questions, that will be an incredible feat. but i think she's going to have to explain why she was medicare for all when she was a candidate. and no longer why was she was against cracking and no longer because of pennsylvania. why she wanted to get rid of the detention camps on the border, which is a can a but now is wants to be tougher on immigration. because if we're talking about present united states, she's on vp anymore, she can make these decisions right. once you sign a medicare for all bill, if it came to her desk is, are questions we don't know. i think they are just part of the process. and as a reporter i, i feel like she needs to answer them. but i don't know,
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maybe she goes by, because trump someone discipline people just vote against him. your assignment, the president of columbia university just resigned in part because of her response around gaza related protests on columbia university's campus. but, you know, students are coming back to universities at the end of august, the beginning of september. we also have uh, at least promises to make the palestine protests, a major part of the chicago political scene at the democratic national convention. do you worry at all that that would be a problem for the harris campaign or they prepared for that? do you think that that there's any distance that she would be putting between the discomfort that many younger voters had with president biden's position on his real, gaza versus is where harris's. yeah, i think this is a problem to be managed, but not a threat of any kind to her candidacy. and i think that you know, we are going to have, i think, some, pompey days next week of the convention. i think the protesters are ready to rumble
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and are going to try to disrupt things. and i think we're all expecting i, i'm, you know, i would be surprised if there's going to be the kind of level of intensity on college campuses as there was in the spring. because i think the universities are going to be much less because they're going to be more or less, much less forgiving. i think for some of the disruptions that happened on campus and are going to be controlling their campuses much more aggressively than they were in the spring. and i think it's really important to us understand that in terms of just a polling and all this stuff, and just where the american people are, is that these protests were very popular in the united states. and there isn't really a big reservoir support for the protesters and even with young people, when in the latest the most recent pull of 18 to 29 year olds to harvard institute of politics, paul, they ask young people to write 16 issues of an intensity. israel guys and was 15 out of 16 in the actually as part of college students who has 10 out of 10. this is not a voting issue for the overwhelming majority of young people. it's
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a high or small group, highly concentrated, the very loud and vocal right. we all know that. but i think that ann harris has already, i think, demonstrated a rhetorical change from biden on this issue and, and being more sympathetic, i think, to some of the critics. and so is this going to be a big threat to the harris campaign? i don't think it will be, but like any problem or challenge in a, in an election, if you don't manage and effectively you can become something bigger. but right now i don't see this is something that will emerge as a major issue for us. and the selection, david, i don't know if you have any thoughts on that as well, but i also want to ask you about the vice president of choices. so what are your thoughts on i just, i just, i just think there is the x factor. if iran gets an a war with israel next week, or in september or october, that's all we're going to be talking about. and that's another question that come or it's really and that's what happened. it totally really could have. it's fine. but in october, surprise, you say probably these last possibility, right? so come wires, we don't know. i think one of the arguments the trump can deploy against her is she
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may not be ready to be commander cheats. me what, what would she do if a ron starts launching missiles, it isn't what is the us position pension answer that on a debate stage and a press conference with colliers is very good on camera and a rally scripted what we, that's what we know. we don't know yet if she can replicate that a plus performance on in, on script and moments with unscripted questions. and you know, as well as i do when the biggest ex factors is foreign policy. right. and it's the thing that scrambles candidacy is i can change an election and it's not that it may be number 15 now on the issue matrix. but if we've got a full out war with a ryan is real in october, i believe that groups up let me get both of you. in the last couple of minutes we've got to share your thoughts on whether vice president feel choices matter. we have j, the vance center from ohio, author of hilde, billy elegy, um, you know, has, has become donald trump's running mate replacing, you know, who we had before,
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mike pens. and, you know, in the case of a counsel harris, we helped him waltz. the governor of minnesota, former high school teacher, and i just interested in whether you think there's a dynamic at the v p level that matters. what do you think about these 2 choices? david vinny is matter for about $45.00 days when the prices board in the middle of the summer, and we're looking for stories to write about who the pick is. i think democrats did get the better pick. i mean, polling shows that walls is more favorable than j. d. vance who is, you know, insulting cab ladies and talking about childless women at home. not a great way to court undecided voters and suburban georgia. but i think you will see, see coverage receive a both vance and walls as we get into the fall and the focus more be on from. and here is, there's not really a historical anecdote to point to that a v p. change and election except maybe start paneling in 2008. i don't think that change the election, but really impacted sign. i would love your thoughts on j. d. vance. and tim wants,
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the city of answers, the worst be picking. americans live in my view and he's not only the most unpopular vp that's ever in modern polling, but he's continually to generate unbelievably negative news for the republican ticket every single day. because these all these interviews that he did on his obscure writing podcast and where he said, just crazy stuff are coming out every day. the latest stuff yesterday about post menopause of women's main goal in life is to raise their grandkids. you just insulted tens of millions of motors and, and in ways that are, has radicalized the women of america. i think that people don't understand. and i think in many ways from a loss of selection, but the pick of chevy that's and it was a similar moment as jobs was 2 years ago. because trump could of picked a candidate who was an olive branch to the never trump version to the reluctant republicans that were sort of upset about the direction of trump and taking the party and studied double down. and he picked the super mag, a pro 20 project,
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2025 pro put, and frankly, republican, somebody i say is from the hand made sale wing of the republican party who was among the most violent, odious massage, enters that we've seen in american politics. and i think it radical as part of the reason we came out with such a bang. come with harris. is that vance? i think already begun to radicalize many democrats against them. so i think fans has been a disaster, and trump is distancing himself from him. is clear tension in the campaign and we know from pulling that he's dragging down the republican ticket nationally and across the country. second, as was, was a great pick. i mean, i, you know, who knew i didn't know him very well. i was nervous, frankly, in a very, you know, the 1st 24 hours, but obviously they've got great chemistry. he's going to be in and bassett, or for the right for the vice president of parts of the country role and ex urban parts of the country that were perhaps going to be difficult for her to reach, given her urban and california upbringing. so he, she really at added somebody to her, a ticket that can expand, enter coal ocean,
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all trump did with somebody that ended up, i think doing enormous damage to the republican ticket. is extreme is i'm uh and with that. so i think we did come out way on top and yes, the v p matters an awful lot and these elections because it's a sign of their, of their values. and when they, when, who they are, it's a signal on particularly for somebody like harris who took an orthodox, pec. she took a risk, it's really paid off for her and shows that she's probably a far more capable politician than many people in washington or to bring their credit for any quick last spot. i don't, i've trouble loses. i don't think jamie vance will be the reason, so i'll disagree with with signing on that. but i do believe vice presidential picks matter because look, who is the neighborhood of domini? she was biden's back and she slipped into this because solely because of that reason, i don't know, she was a democratic primary in 2024. if it's a big field, you've got newsome in whitmore and put a judge in the rest. but since she was by inspect that she might do the next
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president, and that's why vice presidential, that's why we will leave it there. what a fascinating conversation national politics correspond to david cantonese and democratic party strategist simon rosenberg. really thank you both for joining us today. excuse me. so what's the bottom line? president joe biden believed he deeply believe that he was the only democrat who could beat donald trump. and he regularly said democracy itself was on the line. this decision to drop out of the race scrambled the political deck in america. and that way younger women of color, vice president commer harris is actually leading trumping every battle ground state . true by race within margins, but still fighting was clearly wrong. america's future is up for grabs and the different visions offered by a comma harris tickets versus a donald trump ticket. give american voters a more clear choice. we'll see more of this in the upcoming festival of the democratic national convention in chicago. with this race is now a real race and is nowhere near over, nor determine the implications for the future of america's engagement in the world
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