has a decision to make. firstly, there is that whole issue of the home secretary undermining the boss, so step away from politics and the home secretary and downing street spokesmen and all that kind of stuff. put it in your own world. if you went to work and you chose to undermine the boss, then you did undermine the boss, then you publicly humiliated the boss, would it leave your job security prospects enhanced or diminished? i don't really need to answer that question. then there's the separate issue, connected though, which is the whole thing around what she said in this article, the language in this article. ms braverman�*s leadership ambitions are no secret, and the battle for the future direction of the conservative party is thought by many already well under way. in fact, some question whether she is pushing to be sacked. ms braverman�*s language was at odds

with the prime minister's statement on wednesday. while he opposes a pro—palestinian rally being held on armistice day, he has ultimately backed the "right to peaceful protest". and while ms braverman does have the tools and authority to remove the police commissioner, she doesn't have free reign to involve herself in daily policing decisions. so where does this leave the commissioner, mark rowley? to exit stage left at this point — no matter how honourable, that might be the right thing to do — would not be helpful for me policing perspective, and the last thing this weekend needs is something else that's not helpful. it needs a little bit of common sense and continuity and stability, and i suspect he would've thought that him leaving would not provide that. our panel to discuss all this tonight, bryan lanza one political

strategist who ran the donald trump communications department, and running but paul wall. but let's start with bryan. but there has been a lot of criticism tonight for suella braverman, but there have been some who think she enunciates what many in her party want to say and she gets punished for it. what do you make of her intervention? it do you make of her intervention? it looks like the launch of a larger political— looks like the launch of a larger political campaign. _ looks like the launch of a larger political campaign. if— looks like the launch of a larger political campaign. if you - looks like the launch of a larger political campaign. if you look. looks like the launch of a largerl political campaign. if you look at the uk _ political campaign. if you look at the uk and — political campaign. if you look at the uk and europe _ political campaign. if you look at the uk and europe in— political campaign. if you look at the uk and europe in the - political campaign. if you look at the uk and europe in the israel—i the uk and europe in the israel— hamas_ the uk and europe in the israel— hamas war— the uk and europe in the israel— hamas war that— the uk and europe in the israel— hamas war that we _ the uk and europe in the israel— hamas war that we are - the uk and europe in the israel— hamas war that we are having. the uk and europe in the israel—i hamas war that we are having his cause _ hamas war that we are having his cause deep— hamas war that we are having his cause deep divisions _ hamas war that we are having his cause deep divisions and - hamas war that we are having his cause deep divisions and i- hamas war that we are having his cause deep divisions and i think. cause deep divisions and i think people — cause deep divisions and i think pe0ple sort— cause deep divisions and i think pe0ple sort of— cause deep divisions and i think people sort of look— cause deep divisions and i think people sort of look at _ cause deep divisions and i think people sort of look at the - cause deep divisions and i think people sort of look at the foot i people sort of look at the foot landscape _ people sort of look at the foot landscape and _ people sort of look at the foot landscape and say— people sort of look at the foot landscape and say these - people sort of look at the foot. landscape and say these divisions are going — landscape and say these divisions are going to— landscape and say these divisions are going to result _ landscape and say these divisions are going to result and _ landscape and say these divisions are going to result and lines - landscape and say these divisionsl are going to result and lines drawn on both_ are going to result and lines drawn on both sides _ are going to result and lines drawn on both sides. in _ are going to result and lines drawn on both sides. in clearly— are going to result and lines drawn on both sides. in clearly the - are going to result and lines drawn on both sides. in clearly the homei on both sides. in clearly the home secretary— on both sides. in clearly the home secretary has _ on both sides. in clearly the home secretary has made _ on both sides. in clearly the home secretary has made a _ on both sides. in clearly the home secretary has made a decision- on both sides. in clearly the home secretary has made a decision to i secretary has made a decision to draw_ secretary has made a decision to drew her— secretary has made a decision to drew her life. _ secretary has made a decision to draw her life, what _ secretary has made a decision to draw her life, what she - secretary has made a decision to draw her life, what she thinks i secretary has made a decision to draw her life, what she thinks is| secretary has made a decision tol draw her life, what she thinks is a political— draw her life, what she thinks is a political decision. _ draw her life, what she thinks is a political decision. i— draw her life, what she thinks is a political decision. i think- political decision. i think that's ultimately— political decision. i think that's ultimately to _ political decision. i think that's ultimately to her— political decision. i think that's ultimately to her detriment, . political decision. i think that's -

ultimately to her detriment, being part of— ultimately to her detriment, being part of a _ ultimately to her detriment, being part ofa team _ ultimately to her detriment, being part of a team and _ ultimately to her detriment, being part of a team and not _ ultimately to her detriment, being part of a team and not being - ultimately to her detriment, being part of a team and not being the l part of a team and not being the team— part of a team and not being the team leader. _ part of a team and not being the team leader, you _ part of a team and not being the team leader, you cannot - part of a team and not being the team leader, you cannot make l part of a team and not being the - team leader, you cannot make those types _ team leader, you cannot make those types of _ team leader, you cannot make those types of political _ team leader, you cannot make those types of political selfish _ types of political selfish decisions. _ types of political selfish decisions. but- types of political selfish decisions. but in- types of political selfish decisions. but in the . types of political selfish i decisions. but in the long types of political selfish - decisions. but in the long run, i want _ decisions. but in the long run, i want to— decisions. but in the long run, i want to be _ decisions. but in the long run, i want to be surprised _ decisions. but in the long run, i want to be surprised if- decisions. but in the long run, i want to be surprised if he - decisions. but in the long run, i want to be surprised if he werel want to be surprised if he were launching — want to be surprised if he were launching the _ want to be surprised if he were launching the launch _ want to be surprised if he were launching the launch of- want to be surprised if he were launching the launch of a - want to be surprised if he were . launching the launch of a broader political— launching the launch of a broader political campaign. _ launching the launch of a broader political campaign.— launching the launch of a broader political campaign. there are echoes here of when — political campaign. there are echoes here of when boris _ political campaign. there are echoes here of when boris johnson - political campaign. there are echoes here of when boris johnson wrote i here of when borisjohnson wrote articles about brexit which were not signed off by theresa may's team when he was under her leadership at the foreign secretary and he eventually quit the cabinet. do you think it works, this, there are politicians in the conservative party were looking at what she is saying who think that she is making, you know, plans forfuture leadership, it is always work or do you have to be careful how you go about it? 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i the article that she placed in the times? ~ . , the article that she placed in the times? ~ ., , ., ., , times? i think many of them are sick ofthe times? i think many of them are sick of the fact that _ times? i think many of them are sick of the fact that actually _ times? i think many of them are sick of the fact that actually she is - of the fact that actually she is behaving like an outright backbencher rather than the home secretary. and i think theyjust feel that there is a sense that the prime minister really needs to rain her and and at least if not sachar, some of them do want him to sachar to show some authority, at least put down some clear markers about what

she can and cannot say. but the problem is that she has done this serially, repeatedly. she is talked about the idea of it charities being banned it from handing out tents for the homeless people. that was not authorised by number 10 and in fact it was such an embarrassment to make sure it was pulled from the king's speech. that is a kind of behaviour from mechanic minister you really don't expect when you are on the same team and you and the barrel of a year—long general election campaign. yet to be is that it is possible and i think is that more than anything else and the politics, the fact that she is going off piece thatis the fact that she is going off piece that is really concerning for a lot of tory mps. now, obviously, many of them think that she may well be itching to get fired and saying things deliberately to get sacked i don't quite buy that. i think she is saying it because she genuinely believes this and she feels that she is tapping into a certain segment of the public opinion. but at the end of the day, but will really

determine her fate is of the day, but will really determine herfate is i think whether or not not what she says, her rhetoric about she delivers and i think that is next week and will be really important. we have this rwanda courtjudgment coming, and if that's negative, that might give them the excuse to say actually is time to move on.— them the excuse to say actually is time to move on. chris mason made the oint time to move on. chris mason made the point is — time to move on. chris mason made the point is that _ time to move on. chris mason made the point is that since _ time to move on. chris mason made the point is that since immigration l the point is that since immigration is a key issue for conservative voters and obviously they need the base to come out in the election next year, she stirs the base and she fulfils a role for the prime minister. and you can see the politics of that. the only downside i guess from rishi sunak poss my perspective when you consider that is the preamble to this ralph was the problem in the labour party and the problem in the labour party and the splits over keir starmer�*s feelings towards god is acidly talking about the conservatives and their positions. that cannot be good

politics. their positions. that cannot be good olitics. . , their positions. that cannot be good olitics. ., , ., ., politics. that is not good politics in one of the _ politics. that is not good politics in one of the things _ politics. that is not good politics in one of the things here - politics. that is not good politics in one of the things here is - politics. that is not good politics in one of the things here is rishii in one of the things here is rishi sunak is not simply good at politics with the people try to keep the troops in line but things that he is like him and he would not say and some of the stuff she says is licensed when it comes to the politics of it, policing one of these marches, the prime minister himself has been outmaneuvered by the head of the met police, who said i call your bluff was to be futile me to ban this march, you will have to order me effectively to ban the smart. i don't think we should be like likely benefit of a speeches we have a long tradition in this country and the prime minister was basically outmaneuvered by the police chief. and that again, if that happens here that shows you the prime minister, something is wrong and i think some backbenchers nuzzling his round there and that maybe his instincts are actually very similar to suella braverman's come of it in terms of execution and have a guess about it, it is quite flawed. ,, ., ., ,, ,., flawed. should make the point we have made _ flawed. should make the point we have made calls _ flawed. should make the point we have made calls to _ flawed. should make the point we have made calls to conservative i flawed. should make the point we i have made calls to conservative mps to come on and talk about this in

support of suella braverman but none of them have responded. we should just add that dentistry sit in that they have full confidence in the home secretary. coming up, we are just ten weeks from the iowa caucuses. last night, five presidential republican candidates went head—to—head in miami. did they do enough to turn this into a contest? or is the former president who skipped all three of these debates now sauntering to the nomination? and a blockbuster deal for the actors — four months on the picket line, they finally have a deal with the hollywood studios. before all that, let's take a quick look at some other stories making news here in the uk today. the nhs waiting list in england has hit a record high as new figures show that more than a million patients are on more than one waiting list. the overall waiting list hit a new high of 7.7 million at the end of september. the overall waiting list is at its highest point since records began in august 2007. the shell oil company is suing the environmental group greenpeace after activists climbed aboard a production platform

being towed to the north sea. greenpeace says it has been asked to pay more than $2 million. a 14—year—old boy has appeared in court charged with murder in leeds after a teenager was fatally stabbed near a school in the city. the 15—year—old alfie lewis was stabbed near st margaret's primary school in horsforth on tuesday. the former student later died in hospital. the charged boy was remanded in custody. you are watching bbc news. before we deep dive into last night's republican debate in miami, let's remember this. the leading candidate donald trump is facing multiple felony and fraud charges, has been found liable for sexual abuse and refuses to show up at any of his party's debates. more than that, he refuses to sign the agreement to support any other candidate that might become the nominee, all of which barely

registers in the polls. in fact, the former president's decision not to appear in these three televised debates now seems politically astute since the five other candidates on stage seemed to forget last night who the frontrunner was, turning their aims and some five—inch stilettos on each other. do you want a leader from a different generation who's going to put this country first? or do you want dick cheney in three—inch heels, in which case we've got two of them on stage tonight? yes, i'd first like to say they're five—inch heels, and i don't wear them unless you can run inthem~ — applause. we've got two of you on stage. the second thing i'd say is i wear heels, they're not for a fashion statement, they're for ammunition. in the last debate, she made fun of me for actuallyjoining tiktok while her own daughter was actually using the app for a long time, so you might want to take care of yourfamily first. leave my daughter out of your voice!

..the next generation of americans are using it, and that's actually the point. yeah, hersupporters propping her up, that's fine. here's the truth... you're just scum. we will go and end all formal trade relations with china until they stop murdering americans from fentanyl, something ron has to say he's going to do. ambassador haley said - somehow i wasn't doing... she welcomed them into - south carolina and gave them land near a military base, - wrote the chinese ambassador a love letter saying _ what a great friend they were. ron, you are the chair of your economic development agency, that as of last week said florida is the ideal place for chinese businesses. and i abolished that agency that she's talking about. _ no, he... enterprise florida, we abolished it, and of course we banned _ china from buying land... he scrubbed the website last week. go check. let's make sure that none of these state laws put a woman injail or give her the death penalty for getting an abortion.

let's focus on how to save as many babies as we can and support as many moms as we can and stop the judgment. we don't need to divide america over this issue any more. i would challenge both nikki and ron to join me at a is—week limit. it is in our nation's best interests, and frankly i think it's unethical and immoral to allow for abortions up until the day of birth. how long should americans be expected to help fund the war in ukraine? kirsten, let's remember from the last time that we turned our back on a shooting war in europe, it bought us just a couple of years. and then 500,000 americans were killed in europe to defeat hitler. this is not a choice. this is the price we pay for being the leaders of the free world. so let's bring in matt terrill, former chief of staff in marco rubio's presidential campaign. thank you very much for being with us. i thought there was more substance to this third debate than the previous two.—

the previous two. there certainly was more _ the previous two. there certainly was more substance _ the previous two. there certainly was more substance in _ the previous two. there certainly was more substance in this - the previous two. there certainly i was more substance in this debate. so that throughout last night and we also saw those candidates, if they had in previous debates, drawing contrasts among themselves but the real challenge for these candidates right now as they are not drawing enough contrast among themselves in the front runner of this race and that's former president donald trump. for president trump has a commanding lead in the polls and is leading in key states like iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, those early states will have a pivotal role in deciding who the nominee for president will be. so certainly more substance and we saw it with a dialogue, a debate among the contenders who were on that debate stage last night, but the real challenge right now is that they are well behind president trump in the polls and need to find ways to gain ground soon. if polls and need to find ways to gain ground soon-— polls and need to find ways to gain ground soon. if you were to look at the race in — ground soon. if you were to look at the race in the _ ground soon. if you were to look at the race in the whole, _ ground soon. if you were to look at the race in the whole, most - ground soon. if you were to look at the race in the whole, most of our| the race in the whole, most of our viewers recall that ron desantis was always thought i was the man who would challenge donald trump also do you think this is now between donald trump and nikki haley? latte

you think this is now between donald trump and nikki haley?— trump and nikki haley? we will see is still a ways _ trump and nikki haley? we will see is still a ways to _ trump and nikki haley? we will see is still a ways to go _ trump and nikki haley? we will see is still a ways to go in _ trump and nikki haley? we will see is still a ways to go in the _ trump and nikki haley? we will see is still a ways to go in the process . is still a ways to go in the process with your point we are getting much closer to state like iowa and new hampshire and carolina voting. in so look it really is getting down to crunch time for these candidates. many were going to want to see these candidates try to get the field more it narrowed so they can go one—on—one with president trump was a sort of as ambassador haley or ron desantis or team sky or chris christie, all the senators were on candidate stage last night they'll have work to do in respect to gaining ground in the polls that we will see who that is a can emerge him in the pack but right now all those candidates are still well behind president trump and the pole so that we are seeing some of them 9° up so that we are seeing some of them go up and down such as nikki haley in the polls were there to well behind donald trump when it comes to the polls. the behind donald trump when it comes to the olls. ., . ., the polls. the china exchange interested _ the polls. the china exchange interested me. _ the polls. the china exchange interested me. nikki - the polls. the china exchange interested me. nikki haley i the polls. the china exchange - interested me. nikki haley probably one that in canada because she

pushed back on ron desantis but some good opposition research with a point i wanted to make you just how far the us has moved on china. think about where barack 0bama was in 2010 at where david cameron was in 2010, it is a total shift now.— it is a total shift now. definitely. the whole _ it is a total shift now. definitely. the whole thing _ it is a total shift now. definitely. the whole thing in _ it is a total shift now. definitely. the whole thing in the _ it is a total shift now. definitely. the whole thing in the us - it is a total shift now. definitely. the whole thing in the us is - the whole thing in the us is certainly— the whole thing in the us is certainly respected in the awkwardness in the us with the uk and i_ awkwardness in the us with the uk and i think— awkwardness in the us with the uk and i think you will see in this tory— and i think you will see in this tory party. _ and i think you will see in this tory party, there is a lot more nervousness about dealing with beijing — nervousness about dealing with beijing and notjust in terms of security— beijing and notjust in terms of security but also in terms of trade. and i_ security but also in terms of trade. and i think— security but also in terms of trade. and i think we are definitely following the american lee and i think— following the american lee and i think it _ following the american lee and i think it is — following the american lee and i think it is clear it was notjust donald — think it is clear it was notjust donald trump that had this anxiety, it was— donald trump that had this anxiety, it wasjoe _ donald trump that had this anxiety, it wasjoe biden donald trump that had this anxiety, it was joe biden as well. so the risk cross— it was joe biden as well. so the risk cross party consensus there and there _ risk cross party consensus there and there is— risk cross party consensus there and there is beginning to be cross party consensus — there is beginning to be cross party consensus here with the labour party commotion— consensus here with the labour party commotion may well be government next year. _ commotion may well be government next year, is as hawkish on china now— next year, is as hawkish on china now as _ next year, is as hawkish on china now as the — next year, is as hawkish on china now as the tory party has been traditionally. sol now as the tory party has been traditionally. so i think you were seeing _ traditionally. so i think you were seeing a — traditionally. so i think you were seeing a bit more of that. where is

keir starmer _ seeing a bit more of that. where is keir starmer on _ seeing a bit more of that. where is keir starmer on that? _ seeing a bit more of that. where is keir starmer on that? i _ seeing a bit more of that. where is keir starmer on that? i think - keir starmer on that? i think he wants to put — keir starmer on that? i think he wants to put his _ keir starmer on that? i think he wants to put his credentials - keir starmer on that? i think he wants to put his credentials on | wants to put his credentials on national security like with russia so he _ national security like with russia so he relaxes you to deal with and engage _ so he relaxes you to deal with and engage with a mash of country like china _ engage with a mash of country like china on— engage with a mash of country like china on things like climate change, no question, but on trade and certainly— no question, but on trade and certainly security, i think they will be — certainly security, i think they will be as— certainly security, i think they will be as hawkish if not more than the conservatives, just as they have been _ the conservatives, just as they have been on _ the conservatives, just as they have been on russia, applicant and the conservatives on russia's significant lots of russian money and that— significant lots of russian money and that was not good enough. and i think what's— and that was not good enough. and i think what's interesting is that rishi _ think what's interesting is that rishi sunak it's trying to get done is almost — rishi sunak it's trying to get done is almost the david cameron route, coming _ is almost the david cameron route, coming up — is almost the david cameron route, coming up with the same but he realises— coming up with the same but he realises he needs only to pull them out of— realises he needs only to pull them out of the _ realises he needs only to pull them out of the post brexit trade nightmare. and trade with china might— nightmare. and trade with china might be — nightmare. and trade with china might be one solution, so he is in a real bind _ might be one solution, so he is in a real bind with some of his hawkish bits of— real bind with some of his hawkish bits of his — real bind with some of his hawkish bits of his party and other bits of the party— bits of his party and other bits of the party saying we need the chinese cash~ _ the party saying we need the chinese cash. . the party saying we need the chinese cash. , , .., , the party saying we need the chinese cash. , ,, ., _ cash. interesting because obviously b an cash. interesting because obviously bryan where _ cash. interesting because obviously bryan where the — cash. interesting because obviously bryan where the us _ cash. interesting because obviously bryan where the us go _ cash. interesting because obviously bryan where the us go skim - cash. interesting because obviously bryan where the us go skim of - cash. interesting because obviously bryan where the us go skim of the | cash. interesting because obviously i bryan where the us go skim of the uk to as enters a policy vis—a—vis china. talking about abortion, the

results we got on tuesday suggested that abortion is driving people to the polls and it still a problem for the republicans. the result in virginia particularly interesting because the governor there was proposing a 15 week limit and there you hear on the stage last night talk again of a number. is it really about a number of people across the us order theyjust want about a number of people across the us order they just want the government out of their reproductive rights? government out of their reproductive ri . hts? . . , government out of their reproductive ri . hts? , ., , ., government out of their reproductive rit hts? , ., , ., ,., rights? listen, are they for some states it is _ rights? listen, are they for some states it is a _ rights? listen, are they for some states it is a number. _ rights? listen, are they for some states it is a number. certainly i states it is a number. certainly california — states it is a number. certainly california will— states it is a number. certainly california will have _ states it is a number. certainly california will have a _ states it is a number. certainly california will have a number i states it is a number. certainly. california will have a number and much _ california will have a number and much like — california will have a number and much like set _ california will have a number and much like set dakota _ california will have a number and much like set dakota will - california will have a number and much like set dakota will have i california will have a number and much like set dakota will have ai much like set dakota will have a number — much like set dakota will have a number but _ much like set dakota will have a number but virginia _ much like set dakota will have a number but virginia does - much like set dakota will have a number but virginia does not i much like set dakota will have a i number but virginia does not want the number— number but virginia does not want the numberand _ number but virginia does not want the number and that's— number but virginia does not want the number and that's not- number but virginia does not want the number and that's not why- number but virginia does not want i the number and that's not why glenn youngkin _ the number and that's not why glenn youngkin get — the number and that's not why glenn youngkin get elected. _ the number and that's not why glenn youngkin get elected. to _ the number and that's not why glenn youngkin get elected. to get - the number and that's not why glenn youngkin get elected. to get elected to push— youngkin get elected. to get elected to push forward — youngkin get elected. to get elected to push forward these _ youngkin get elected. to get elected to push forward these conservative . to push forward these conservative social— to push forward these conservative social policies _ to push forward these conservative social policies. he _ to push forward these conservative social policies. he came _ to push forward these conservative social policies. he came forward i to push forward these conservative i social policies. he came forward and appealed _ social policies. he came forward and appealed to — social policies. he came forward and appealed to the _ social policies. he came forward and appealed to the suburban _ social policies. he came forward and appealed to the suburban mum - social policies. he came forward and appealed to the suburban mum by. appealed to the suburban mum by turning _ appealed to the suburban mum by turning the — appealed to the suburban mum by turning the page _ appealed to the suburban mum by turning the page on _ appealed to the suburban mum by turning the page on this— appealed to the suburban mum by turning the page on this drama i appealed to the suburban mum by. turning the page on this drama that existed _ turning the page on this drama that existed in— turning the page on this drama that existed in washington. _ turning the page on this drama that existed in washington. and - turning the page on this drama that existed in washington. and it - turning the page on this drama that existed in washington. and it goes| existed in washington. and it goes against _ existed in washington. and it goes against his— existed in washington. and it goes against his brand _ existed in washington. and it goes against his brand to— existed in washington. and it goes against his brand to inject- existed in washington. and it goes against his brand to inject into - existed in washington. and it goes against his brand to inject into the| against his brand to inject into the political— against his brand to inject into the political campaign _ against his brand to inject into the political campaign of— against his brand to inject into the political campaign of virginia, - political campaign of virginia, whether— political campaign of virginia, whether it's _ political campaign of virginia,

whether it's15_ political campaign of virginia, whether it's15 weeks - political campaign of virginia, whether it's15 weeks or- political campaign of virginia, whether it's15 weeks or the l political campaign of virginia, i whether it's15 weeks or the ron desantis — whether it's15 weeks or the ron desantis rule _ whether it's15 weeks or the ron desantis rule of— whether it's15 weeks or the ron desantis rule of 20 _ whether it's15 weeks or the ron desantis rule of 20 weeks - whether it's15 weeks or the ron desantis rule of 20 weeks or- whether it's15 weeks or the ron desantis rule of 20 weeks or sixj desantis rule of 20 weeks or six weeks _ desantis rule of 20 weeks or six weeks or— desantis rule of 20 weeks or six weeks or i— desantis rule of 20 weeks or six weeks or i think— desantis rule of 20 weeks or six weeks or i think conservatives l desantis rule of 20 weeks or six . weeks or i think conservatives can win this _ weeks or i think conservatives can win this debate _ weeks or i think conservatives can win this debate by _ weeks or i think conservatives can win this debate by having - weeks or i think conservatives can win this debate by having a - weeks or i think conservatives can win this debate by having a directi win this debate by having a direct debate _ win this debate by having a direct debate with— win this debate by having a directl debate with some of these people win this debate by having a direct i debate with some of these people as opposed _ debate with some of these people as opposed to _ debate with some of these people as opposed to just — debate with some of these people as opposed to just trying _ debate with some of these people as opposed to just trying to _ debate with some of these people as opposed to just trying to sneak- debate with some of these people as opposed to just trying to sneak it i opposed to just trying to sneak it in and _ opposed to just trying to sneak it in and hope — opposed to just trying to sneak it in and hope that _ opposed to just trying to sneak it in and hope that it _ opposed to just trying to sneak it in and hope that it works. - opposed to just trying to sneak it in and hope that it works. and i opposed to just trying to sneak it. in and hope that it works. and you see it _ in and hope that it works. and you see it and — in and hope that it works. and you see it and conservative _ in and hope that it works. and you see it and conservative places- in and hope that it works. and you see it and conservative places like| see it and conservative places like montana — see it and conservative places like montana come _ see it and conservative places like montana come they— see it and conservative places like montana come they put _ see it and conservative places like montana come they put a - see it and conservative places like montana come they put a ballot i montana come they put a ballot initiative — montana come they put a ballot initiative on— montana come they put a ballot initiative on their— montana come they put a ballot initiative on their with _ montana come they put a ballot initiative on their with abortion i initiative on their with abortion and they— initiative on their with abortion and they don't _ initiative on their with abortion and they don't spend - initiative on their with abortion and they don't spend a - initiative on their with abortion and they don't spend a single i initiative on their with abortion - and they don't spend a single penny trying _ and they don't spend a single penny trying to— and they don't spend a single penny trying to get — and they don't spend a single penny trying to get across _ and they don't spend a single penny trying to get across the _ and they don't spend a single penny trying to get across the finish - and they don't spend a single penny trying to get across the finish line i trying to get across the finish line and all_ trying to get across the finish line and all of— trying to get across the finish line and all of a — trying to get across the finish line and all of a sudden _ trying to get across the finish line and all of a sudden it— trying to get across the finish line and all of a sudden it loses and l trying to get across the finish line . and all of a sudden it loses and now you have _ and all of a sudden it loses and now you have the — and all of a sudden it loses and now you have the left—wing _ and all of a sudden it loses and now you have the left—wing that - and all of a sudden it loses and now you have the left—wing that says - you have the left—wing that says this is_ you have the left—wing that says this is a — you have the left—wing that says this is a huge _ you have the left—wing that says this is a huge victory— you have the left—wing that says this is a huge victory when - you have the left—wing that says this is a huge victory when in- you have the left—wing that saysl this is a huge victory when in fact the party— this is a huge victory when in fact the party and _ this is a huge victory when in fact the party and the _ this is a huge victory when in fact the party and the anti—abortion . the party and the anti—abortion movemerit— the party and the anti—abortion movement were _ the party and the anti—abortion movement were disorganised. i the party and the anti—abortion - movement were disorganised. yeah, i think some _ movement were disorganised. yeah, i think some states _ movement were disorganised. yeah, i think some states will— movement were disorganised. yeah, i think some states will be _ movement were disorganised. yeah, i think some states will be different. i think some states will be different. that was— think some states will be different. that was the — think some states will be different. that was the point _ think some states will be different. that was the point that _ think some states will be different. that was the point that ron - think some states will be different. i that was the point that ron desantis made last night with a pro—life lobby is not done enough to win the argument. how will this affect candidates when it comes to iowa? so how do we think all this will affect the candidates' prospects in iowa comejanuary?

i think we are about 67 days away. quick reminder of how the top three republican candidates were faring before this debate. nikki haley closing on ron desantis. she was in single digits in august at that first debate, but now very close to second place in iowa. let's askj anne selzer, a veteran political pollster in iowa. thank you very much for coming on the programme. did last night shift the programme. did last night shift the dialfor any of the programme. did last night shift the dial for any of these candidates from the people you spoke to? tie. from the people you spoke to? no, “ust b from the people you spoke to? tho, just by observation what i want and expecting was that each of those candidates had a job to do, and i don't know... i think they made some efforts to do it, but i don't know that it was enough for a debate to really matter. there have to be a blockbuster moment rather than a series of little tiny skirmishes. so i think ron desantis came up looking more in command of material and certainly with regard to international than he has before. nikki haley was a change in style.

she had been very assertive in the first two debates and it really interrupting and making her point with some fervor, and she seemed to be a little bit more laid back and maybe she wanted to be seen as more of an adult in the room. and i think vivek ramaswamy continued to do what he does, which some people find annoying. it is not getting him any traction. he thinks is entertaining and maybe it is to some people. i think that the two that probably fared least well were tim scott, who really needs something to stand on, it's of it to distinguish himself, and i think he blurs in with the other candidates, and then chris christie, who is not competing here in iowa so that does not matter so much. but he is there to show i'm going to continue to take down donald trump anyway that i can but i want to do it in a gentlemanly, presidential way. did

want to do it in a gentlemanly, presidential way.— want to do it in a gentlemanly, presidential way. did you do any sot presidential way. did you do any spot pulling _ presidential way. did you do any spot pulling last _ presidential way. did you do any spot pulling last night? - presidential way. did you do any spot pulling last night? did - presidential way. did you do any spot pulling last night? did you| spot pulling last night? did you have some focus groups or anything like that they would give you a steer as to who want to in the end? you know, i've seen it not forjust iowans but i've seen those things out there and they think that nikki haley probably came out beth and i cannot dispute it.— cannot dispute it. when you look at the olls cannot dispute it. when you look at the polls generally, _ cannot dispute it. when you look at the polls generally, donald - cannot dispute it. when you look at the polls generally, donald trump, | the polls generally, donald trump, ron desantis, vivek ramaswamy have support of about 75% of the voters while the others have about 10% so what does it tell you about with a primary base is? taste what does it tell you about with a primary base is?— what does it tell you about with a primary base is? we don't elect a president. we _ primary base is? we don't elect a president, we don't _ primary base is? we don't elect a president, we don't nominate - primary base is? we don't elect a president, we don't nominate a i president, we don't nominate a president, we don't nominate a president on the basis of a national poll, did a sort of put those aside. our october iowa poll of the republican caucus goers showed a decline for ron desantis a few points in ajump decline for ron desantis a few points in a jump of ten points for nikki haley such a they tied for second place in terms of such a place for iowa caucus goers in their

first choice. momentum is there is not on the side so far of ron desantis and more on the side of nikki haley. share desantis and more on the side of nikki haley-— desantis and more on the side of nikki hale . �* i. , .g . nikki haley. are you dusting off all the caucus halls _ nikki haley. are you dusting off all the caucus halls and _ nikki haley. are you dusting off all the caucus halls and bars - nikki haley. are you dusting off all the caucus halls and bars or - nikki haley. are you dusting off all| the caucus halls and bars or people will meet with me are you getting ready? will meet with me are you getting read ? ., , , . will meet with me are you getting read ? ., , , will meet with me are you getting read? ., , ,, will meet with me are you getting read? ., , , ., ready? houses and barns is a bit of and in equated _ ready? houses and barns is a bit of and in equated image _ ready? houses and barns is a bit of and in equated image for _ ready? houses and barns is a bit of and in equated image for they - ready? houses and barns is a bit of and in equated image for they are l ready? houses and barns is a bit ofl and in equated image for they are in school gymnasiums and auditoriums. i school gymnasiums and auditoriums. i like a barn. i know— school gymnasiums and auditoriums. i like a barn. i know you _ school gymnasiums and auditoriums. i like a barn. i know you do _ school gymnasiums and auditoriums. i like a barn. i know you do and - like a barn. i know you do and we liked it when _ like a barn. i know you do and we liked it when they _ like a barn. i know you do and we liked it when they were in - like a barn. i know you do and we liked it when they were in living l liked it when they were in living reasonable people show up these days. i reasonable people show up these da s. u, , reasonable people show up these da s. , ., . days. i recall my days in iowa. thank you _ days. i recall my days in iowa. thank you very _ days. i recall my days in iowa. thank you very much - days. i recall my days in iowa. thank you very much coming i days. i recall my days in iowa. | thank you very much coming to days. i recall my days in iowa. - thank you very much coming to talk to you and thanks for coming on. let's talk about donald trump. on the night of the first debate, donald trump sat for an interview with tucker carlson for an interview on x that was watched by 150 million viewers. last night, his counterprogramming was sited just 30 minutes from the debate stage in miami, in the cuban—american district of hialeah, an important consitutency in next year's election. at previous rallies, he has poked fun atjoe biden's perceived frailty, sometimes hobbling around the stage, yet last night he seemed to roll

back on that line of attack, suddenly concious of his own advancing years. and maybe that because one of his challengers, the businessman vivek ramaswamy, who many have dubbed "trump light", is half his age. one of the said last week that, on the stage, that "president trump is the greatest president in many generations". i sort of like him. you know who that is? i said, "how can i dislike him?" he's so nice. a lot of people say that, "why are you running?" well, he said, "i'm a younger version." and it's ok to say, but we want the older version, right? but that's ok to say. and you know, you've got to remember, biden's not too old. that's not his problem. he's too incompetent. he's not old. he's not too old, not his problem, bryan, what is going on they are? it is total 180. he bryan, what is going on they are? it is total 180-— is total 180. he is said in the past and in his defence _ is total 180. he is said in the past and in his defence the _ is total 180. he is said in the past and in his defence the president i is total 180. he is said in the past i and in his defence the president has said that _

and in his defence the president has said thatjoe biden punishment issue is not _ said thatjoe biden punishment issue is not his— said thatjoe biden punishment issue is not his age, it is policy and his ineptness — is not his age, it is policy and his ineptness. but he was having fun. he is rifting, _ ineptness. but he was having fun. he is rifting, he — ineptness. but he was having fun. he is riffing, he is talking about vivek— is riffing, he is talking about vivek ramaswamy, talking about asia having _ vivek ramaswamy, talking about asia having a _ vivek ramaswamy, talking about asia having a good time and engaging with voters _ having a good time and engaging with voters which is what is the most dynamic— voters which is what is the most dynamic and important thing about president — dynamic and important thing about president trump when he campaigns. but as— president trump when he campaigns. but as for— president trump when he campaigns. but as for the age thing, i won't read _ but as for the age thing, i won't read too — but as for the age thing, i won't read too much into it and you go track— read too much into it and you go back several months in here that he is giving _ back several months in here that he is giving that same response in the past _ is giving that same response in the ast. , . ~ is giving that same response in the ast, , ., ~' , past. one line breaking news toniuht, past. one line breaking news tonight. the _ past. one line breaking news tonight, the senator - past. one line breaking news tonight, the senator for - past. one line breaking newsj tonight, the senator for west virginia is not running, joe manchin, he is not running so what will that do in the senate? certainly we are seeing much more partisan _ certainly we are seeing much more partisan politics— certainly we are seeing much more partisan politics and _ certainly we are seeing much more partisan politics and we _ certainly we are seeing much more partisan politics and we are - certainly we are seeing much more partisan politics and we are seeing | partisan politics and we are seeing that down— partisan politics and we are seeing that down both _ partisan politics and we are seeing that down both sides _ partisan politics and we are seeing that down both sides of— partisan politics and we are seeing that down both sides of the - that down both sides of the political— that down both sides of the political aisle _ that down both sides of the political aisle and _ that down both sides of the political aisle and this - that down both sides of the| political aisle and this would that down both sides of the - political aisle and this would now be an— political aisle and this would now be an open— political aisle and this would now be an open seat. _ political aisle and this would now be an open seat. they— political aisle and this would now be an open seat. they want - political aisle and this would now be an open seat. they want is. political aisle and this would now be an open seat. they want is to| be an open seat. they want is to be a republican— be an open seat. they want is to be a republican state _ be an open seat. they want is to be a republican state traditionally- be an open seat. they want is to be a republican state traditionally so l a republican state traditionally so certainly — a republican state traditionally so certainly i — a republican state traditionally so certainly i suspect _ a republican state traditionally so certainly i suspect optimism - a republican state traditionally so i certainly i suspect optimism among republicans — certainly i suspect optimism among republicans for _ certainly i suspect optimism among republicans for potentially - certainly i suspect optimism among republicans for potentially pickingi republicans for potentially picking up republicans for potentially picking up a seat —

republicans for potentially picking up a seat there _ republicans for potentially picking up a seat there but _ republicans for potentially picking up a seat there but we _ republicans for potentially picking up a seat there but we will- republicans for potentially picking up a seat there but we will see. i up a seat there but we will see. time _ up a seat there but we will see. time will— up a seat there but we will see. time will tell— up a seat there but we will see. time will tell on— up a seat there but we will see. time will tell on that _ up a seat there but we will see. time will tell on that but - time will tell on that but ultimately— time will tell on that but ultimately we _ time will tell on that but ultimately we are - time will tell on that but ultimately we are seeingj time will tell on that but - ultimately we are seeing partisan politics— ultimately we are seeing partisan politics lately, _ ultimately we are seeing partisan politics lately, with _ ultimately we are seeing partisan politics lately, with the _ ultimately we are seeing partisan politics lately, with the mess - ultimately we are seeing partisan politics lately, with the mess in. politics lately, with the mess in washington _ politics lately, with the mess in washington are _ politics lately, with the mess in washington are nationwide - politics lately, with the mess in washington are nationwide and| washington are nationwide and certainly— washington are nationwide and certainly seen _ washington are nationwide and certainly seen that _ washington are nationwide and certainly seen that in _ washington are nationwide and certainly seen that in congress| washington are nationwide and - certainly seen that in congress and we are _ certainly seen that in congress and we are seeing— certainly seen that in congress and we are seeing that _ certainly seen that in congress and we are seeing that on _ certainly seen that in congress and we are seeing that on the - certainly seen that in congress andi we are seeing that on the campaign trail with _ we are seeing that on the campaign trail with respect _ we are seeing that on the campaign trail with respect to _ we are seeing that on the campaign trail with respect to the _ we are seeing that on the campaign trail with respect to the race for - trail with respect to the race for the white — trail with respect to the race for the white house _ trail with respect to the race for the white house we _ trail with respect to the race for the white house we will - trail with respect to the race for the white house we will see - trail with respect to the race for i the white house we will see what takes _ the white house we will see what takes shape — the white house we will see what takes shape here. _ the white house we will see what takes shape here. 1&— the white house we will see what takes shape here.— takes shape here. a quick one, paul, i don't takes shape here. a quick one, paul, i don't know— takes shape here. a quick one, paul, i don't know if— takes shape here. a quick one, paul, i don't know if he _ takes shape here. a quick one, paul, i don't know if he saw— takes shape here. a quick one, paul, i don't know if he saw the polling - i don't know if he saw the polling in the new york times over the week and people thought about it, but donald trump is leading bothjoe biden in five of the really crucial swing states but if you ask the voters what would happen if you were to lose that election interference case in washington, 6% say they would switch their vote. and that suddenly turns the tables completely on donald trump so that might be right, he's having fun now but if he were to lose that case in washington, it could be the election. it washington, it could be the election. .., , . election. it could well be, and that's what — election. it could well be, and that's what i _ election. it could well be, and that's what i think _ election. it could well be, and that's what i think you - election. it could well be, and that's what i think you are - election. it could well be, and that's what i think you are at l election. it could well be, and| that's what i think you are at a focus on what are really the also—rans in many ways, nikki haley and ron desantis, there is a real

chance here that they could be the nominee at some point. and that's what it was significant that nikki haley set in moderate or try to on abortion which is the key problem that republicans have got in there are many advantages obviously pocketbook issues and the economy and inflation. and ifjoe biden were to lose it would be on the economy, and that's why i think that actually the republicans may be taking a bit more moderate on the whole issue of pro—choice and women's rights than ever as they are never pro—choice is a part of the can at least toned it down and might be able to help themselves. it was really boring about that donald trump speech was fun and engaging but also at times it was dystopian, all about liars and leeches sucking the life and blood out of the country and the political establishment in dc being a rotten and corrupt. you know what you're getting with donald trump, you're getting with donald trump, you reviewed in that mix of humour but also the dark side, and maybe that's what really will determine the next election.—

the next election. should be interesting _ the next election. should be interesting and _ the next election. should be interesting and is _ the next election. should be interesting and is well - the next election. should be interesting and is well and l the next election. should be| interesting and is well and of the next election. should be - interesting and is well and of the line that democrats are no rushing to get abortion —related initiatives on the ballot next year in key swing states like arizona, nevada, florida because i know it brings people out. matt, good heavy on the programme tonight and think you for coming on and we are going to take a short break and will be right back. hello. there've been no shortage of big shower clouds out there today. some really hefty downpours, as you can see from the earlier satellite picture. the speckled shower clouds racing in from the atlantic, all circulating around an area of low pressure. that low sticking with us through tonight and into tomorrow, so there will be further showers. some clear spells between the showers overnight tonight, but this clump of showery rain will move away from the republic of ireland and then into wales, parts of the midlands, the south—west of england. by the end of the night, the winds will strengthen here as well, so it will be mild across this south—west corner. eight degrees for plymouth, but the northern half of the uk will get quite cold. some parts of scotland, —3, —1r celsius, so frost and fog for some. into friday, low

pressure still with us. with the isobars squeezing together first thing in the south—west corner, we could see a spell of gales for exposed parts of south—west england and the channel islands as this clutch of heavy, thundery downpours moves out of wales and the midlands and down into southern counties of england. that should then clear during the morning. behind that, some sunny spells, but with the winds turning more northerly, that'll focus the showers into areas exposed to the wind. so the north coast of northern ireland, north wales, merseyside, eastern parts of england and perhaps most especially northern scotland by the end of the day, that's where we'll see the bulk of the showers. temperatures of 7—12 degrees. as this area of low pressure rolls away eastwards into the start of saturday, we see this brief window of mainly fine weather. light winds, so some fog patches around on saturday morning, a frost for some. but then, actually, this looks like the driest and brightest day of the weekend. very few showers, a little bit of sunshine, temperatures generally between 6—12 degrees. could be a little bit colder

than that if mist and murk lingers for any length of time. now, as we head into saturday night, one frontal system tries to push in from the south—west, but then breaks apart. it will provide some extra moisture, though, to give rise to some quite widespread mist and fog, i think, on sunday morning, and some of that could be really slow to clear. it could be quite a murky day. the further north and east you are, a decent chance of staying dry. further south and west, it looks like we'll see rain moving in from the atlantic, but it will start to turn a bit milder down towards the south—west and the channel islands. soto sum things up for this weekend, saturday looks mostly dry, sunday will bring rain for some. and overnight, we will see some frost and some fog.