new leadership on their side. you robabl new leadership on their side. you probably heard jansen they're saying it is dreadful to have hostages as a bargaining chip, but it is the reality, isn't it? i wonder if you can see when the initial 50 hostages are transferred, and as you say it is a very delicate system to get prisoners out and to get the hostages out as well, what are the chances do you think if this is a successful manoeuvre for the offer from benjamin netanyahu to say ten hostages each day and you delay any return to violence? what do you think there is of a chance of a very narrow corridor to some kind of peace? narrow corridor to some kind of eace? ~ , h, , narrow corridor to some kind of

eace? ~ , ~' , peace? absolutely, i think it is something _ peace? absolutely, i think it is something and _ peace? absolutely, i think it is something and it _ peace? absolutely, i think it is something and it would - peace? absolutely, i think it is something and it would be - peace? absolutely, i think it is| something and it would be hard peace? absolutely, i think it is i something and it would be hard in peace? absolutely, i think it is - something and it would be hard in my view for the parties to go back to open conflict after reaching this agreement. and sol open conflict after reaching this agreement. and so i think that as the two sites continue to negotiate and the likelihood of that, there will be something that is more sustainable is going to increase. but we should also understand this is not going to be a permanent solution to the problem. the permanent solution require something much broader and that involves the west bank as well as gazza.- west bank as well as gazza. thank ou ve west bank as well as gazza. thank you very much _ west bank as well as gazza. thank you very much indeed, _ west bank as well as gazza. thank i you very much indeed, ambassador. thank you very much indeed, ambassador. before we go, news just in from holland where voters have been at the polls to decide who will lead their country into a new political era. i'm joined by anna holigan. what is the latest and what is going to happen next? it is what is the latest and what is going to happen next?— to happen next? it is fair to say this is looking _ to happen next? it is fair to say this is looking like _ to happen next? it is fair to say this is looking like a _ to happen next? it is fair to say this is looking like a pretty - this is looking like a pretty seismic result, sending shock waves

through politics and society. this woman was widely tipped to be the first ever female prime minister of the netherlands and we are inside the netherlands and we are inside the party that was supposed to be the party that was supposed to be the party that was supposed to be the party celebrating her arrival. in fact it looks as though the far right anti—islam, anti—immigration politician with radical views, geert wilders, will become the largest party. that means he will hold the task of forming the next coalition government. however, many of the other parties have said they will not work with him and yet that will play into the hands of the voters who have voted for him, those who are disenfranchised and marginalised who say the mainstream parties are not listening to them. the irony in all of this is the leader of the centre—right party who took over from mark rutte in the netherlands is the longest serving prime minister, has been accused of opening the door to geert wilders by

saying she would be prepared to work with him in a coalition. the future is looking very uncertain and we are expecting the actual results on thursday. from that point on it is a complicated process of trying to negotiate the next political government.— negotiate the next political government. negotiate the next political covernment. .,~ ., ., negotiate the next political covernment. ., ., , government. speaking from a very bus art government. speaking from a very busy part of _ government. speaking from a very busy part of the — government. speaking from a very busy part of the city. _ government. speaking from a very busy part of the city. let's - government. speaking from a very busy part of the city. let's look - government. speaking from a very busy part of the city. let's look at | busy part of the city. let's look at the front pages. the daily mail, let's hope it is just the start. the biggest tax cuts since the 19805. 450 of biggest tax cuts since the 19805. a50 of national insurance and due to frozen on all the party booze. that's all from us tonight. mark is here tomorrow. until then, good night.

a lot has happened on the korean peninsula in the last few days. we had the spy satellite launched and also the failed missile launch earlier on today. how do you think that affected talks between the south korean president and the british prime minister? the south korean president _ british prime minister? the south korean president in _ british prime minister? the south korean president in the _ british prime minister? the south korean president in the british - korean president in the british prime minister declared that today again, north korea's action and it actually produces a new layer of

complexity to the geopolitical situation in the korean plans left. this is a violation of military agreements on september nine 2019 between the two koreas and we agreed to let me —— limits satellite and it has been violated and a very serious matter for the korean has been violated and a very serious matterfor the korean peninsula. the south korean president immediately has a security in his hotel in london. , ., ,, has a security in his hotel in london. , ., , ., ., london. this deal you mentioned, this agreement _ london. this deal you mentioned, this agreement that _ london. this deal you mentioned, this agreement that both - london. this deal you mentioned, this agreement that both sides - london. this dealyou mentioned, l this agreement that both sides have not said they are going to pull out of, what is the threat of a conflict escalating and think spilling out to the rest of the region? the international— the rest of the region? tue: international community the rest of the region? tta: international community including neighbouring countries like japan, china and russia and the us must enter praise move within the context

of the north korean history. the satellite launch could potentially be a precursor to advancement in missile technology which has implications of regional security. now north korea, develops its icbm which could target american cities and south korean cities. so i think this event is likely to trigger these questions and prepare actions within international forums such as the security council.— the security council. many thanks for our the security council. many thanks foryourtime- _ around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. four men have been sentenced to life in prison for the murder of 28—year—old ashley dale, who was shot dead inside her home in liverpool, in august last year.

the trial heard that ashley dale's boyfriend was the intended target of the attack. the public inquiry into the crimes of serial killer, lucy letby, has formally begun, although hearings may not begin until next autumn. the inquiry will examine how the nurse was able to murder seven babies and try to kill six others. it will also look at how the nhs handled the case and its response to doctors who raised concerns. hundreds ofjobs are at risk after the owner of scotland's only oil refinery, at grangemouth, announced that it could close in 18 months' time. it's owner petroineos said it plans to turn grangemouth into a terminal for importing fuel. the bbc has been told that, if confirmed, the move would result in at least a00 job losses. you're live with bbc news.

the artificial intelligence firm openai says its co—founder sam altman is back as ceo, just five days after he was sacked. he was reinstated after nearly all of the company's more than 700 staff signed a letter demanding his return. here's our technology editor zoe kleinman. it's been a popcorn—grabbing boardroom drama. even chatgpt failed to predict this. ask the bot what would happen if sam altman was fired and it says there would likely have been contingency plans. in reality, openai's plan, if there was one, has been in freefall for the last five days. on friday, he was fired as ceo. we still don't know why. over the weekend, staff said they wanted the boss back. by monday, openai investor microsoft had offered sam altman a newjob, but the majority of openalstaff signed a letter threatening to quit if he wasn't reinstated. microsoft told those staff they could also jump ship. today, sam alman is back

where he started — openai ceo. i do think that's the bit that was the most extraordinary, is just how dramatic it seemed, how reactionary everything seemed to be playing out, how much this came down to personalities as well. and that's the part that is probably disheartening, because silicon valley probably gets a bad rap for that as it is. this won't help erase that at all. there are two reasons why this tech drama is so important — money and power. ai potentially promises a great future if things go well, and destruction if they do not. investment money is pouring in, but you also need expertise to develop these tools and keep them safe. this latest merry—go—round has distracted from openai's fundamental ambition — trying to create technology which can benefit the whole of humanity. zoe kleinman, bbc news.

live now to new york we can speak to karen hao — she's an ai reporter with the atlantic. great to have you here. can you break down what the heart of the issueis break down what the heart of the issue is he here? he paint a picture of what the tumours within ai are so concerned about? can you paint a picture of what the doomers within ai are concerned about? this latest drama with openai is not a new phenomenon with the company. we are seeing it explode and much more because openai is in the public eye and everyone knows chat gpt but throughout the company's history there have been major power struggles between people that have very different ideologies around how to develop so—called agi and make it benefit humanity. it is exactly what we saw this weekend. in the last years since chat gpt was released, there have essentially been to factions within the company that have always existed there it started to accelerate in their position in

polarising in opposite and extreme directions. there was a camp really focused on commercialising and building products, trying to put this technology in the hands of users and were very energised by this premise. there were also people like you said, the tumours or the ai safety cap that were concerned about how quickly were being put into peoples hands and also how quickly the capabilities were in fencing and they were seeing real world examples of what happens when a very powerful technology is suddenly placed in the hands of 100 million users. —— so called doomers. what we saw this week and was basically the culmination of a year of tension that happened between these two camps fighting over whether or not it was better to commercialise and speed up or better to completely stop and slow down. the deposing of sam altman and the reinstatement of

him, shows how much this technology and the state of this technology is happening because of these personalities, power struggles, ideological divisions. in ultimately, how much happens behind closed doors. ultimately, how much happens behind closed doom-— closed doors. thank you for breaking that down for — closed doors. thank you for breaking that down for us. _ closed doors. thank you for breaking that down for us. there _ closed doors. thank you for breaking that down for us. there are - closed doors. thank you for breaking that down for us. there are many - that down for us. there are many companies dealing with this type of technology, why is the structure of openai so different compared to those other companies?- openai so different compared to those other companies? openai was founded as a — those other companies? openai was founded as a nonprofit. _ founded as a nonprofit. interestingly, specifically to resist the fact that so much of ai development at that point in time, 2015, was already being dictated by for—profit corporations within the tech industry. so it was founded as a nonprofit on the premise that such a nonprofit on the premise that such a consequence technology for our time should not actually be dictated by profit, not beholden to shareholders wanting to grow their gains. what happened was after that,

openai decided to pursue a very particular path for al development that was very expensive. they realised that nonprofit was not able to help them raise enough capital fast enough to get to that vision. so that ultimately came up with this very bizarre solution which is to nest a for—profit entity or what they called a captive profit see underneath of the nonprofit entity. so legally, it actually looks nothing like the traditional tech company in that there is an arm of the company that is raising capital, hiring talent, building products, but ultimately it is governed by the nonprofit which is technically beholden to the submission that was draughted at the beginning which was that the fiduciary responsibility of openai is to humanity. —— beholden to the mission. and they were

stating a board and it was supposed to have members of openai and independent directors that had no financial relationship to the commercial efforts. this whole thing... t commercial efforts. this whole thin... ., ., , commercial efforts. this whole thin... ., , ., thing... i apologise for interrupting _ thing... i apologise for interrupting but - thing... i apologise for interrupting but brieflyj thing... i apologise for - interrupting but briefly because thing... i apologise for _ interrupting but briefly because we are running out of time, what are insiders at openai telling you? do you think this is close to being over or is itjust beginning? t over or is itjust beginning? i think it isjust the beginning. we still have these two factions within the company, sam altman is back, but the company, sam altman is back, but the factions have not left. if you put yourself in the shoes of the doomers camp where you truly believe sam altman may be leading the development of the technology down a dangerous path, you could get desperate and acting out even more. so i think it remains to be seen within the next few days whether there could be another outburst. bi

there could be another outburst. ai reporter with the atlantic. many thanks for your time. finally today — a bit of musical diplomacy. king charles has presented members of the south korean girl group blackpink with honorary mbes. jennie, lisa, jisoo and rose—ey were recognised for their efforts to bring the environmental message to �*millions of young people'. that's all for now — stay with bbc news. hello. we're all under the influence of mild atlantic air at the moment. so temperatures were higher on wednesday than they were tuesday. around the moray firth, actually, we had 15 degrees celsius, well above average. but it's all about to change. by the end of the day ahead, the cold air�*s established across northern scotland, and across all parts, that arctic air is with us for the start of friday. in fact, it's sitting behind this weather front here. so some wetter weather rolling south across scotland

through the remainder of the night towards the central belt. really mild and murky to the south of that, some drizzle around the coasts and hills in the west, some hill fog as well. so a fairly unpleasant rush hour for central parts of scotland, southern scotland. that rain pushes its way southwards through the day. further south, though, after a little bit of a grey and murky start, some dampness around, perhaps a little bit more optimistic of getting some sunshine through those clouds during the course of the afternoon because it gets windier. the wind helps to break up the cloud. it's mild, though. wetter for the afternoon across parts of northern ireland and northern england. windier as well here — gusts of about 50 miles an hour — but gusts of perhaps 60, 65 miles an hour picking up across scotland, pushing those heavy frequent showers and turning to snow by the end of the day across the northern isles and continuing to blow southwards through the night, blowing that rain out of the way. not much rain left on that weather front by the time it gets to the south and temperatures should still hold up, but it will be far colder further north to start friday morning. and those snow showers

initially at lower levels, probably lifting onto the hills through the day, but it will feel a lot colder. we'll really notice that, even where we keep some cloud around, i think, but particularly for scotland and for eastern parts of england, these are maximums. but i think add on the effect of that wind still blowing a gale across northern and eastern areas, potentially it will feel much, much colder than we've become used to. and, actually, by saturday morning, a widespread frost to greet us, but that means plenty of sunshine. and just a few showers still, as we see on friday, pestering eastern coastal counties. still that keen breeze here and a wind chill, but i think the winds easing elsewhere. fewer showers around and we should see not as high temperatures as friday, but actually without the wind, probably not feeling quite as bitter. still another cold start on sunday, but a question mark as to how quickly the rain comes in from the west. it does look as though we'll still see a good deal of dry, bright weather. the best of the sunshine in the morning.

this is bbc news. we'll have the headlines at the top of the hour, as newsday continues straight after hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk from washington. i'm stephen sackur. this is a city of power and politics, but also of secrets and spies.

in the cold war, the us built the best resourced intelligence agency in the world just down the road at langley. now, the cia has had a chequered history — involved notjust in spying, but assassination attempts and coup plots as well. but now intelligence seems to have entered a different realm of cyber hacking, big data and electronic surveillance. my guest isjonna mendez. at the end of the cold war, she was the cia's chief of disguise. is human intelligence still a vital asset? jonna mendez, welcome to hardtalk. thank you.

pleasure. well, it's great to have you here.