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this is bbc news, the headlines. ahead of an expected release of further hostages, president biden warns that a continuation of the conflict in gaza would give hamas what it wants. the uk covid inquiry hears from both the former the australian prime minister issues an apology for the thalidomide tragedy. a world of pure imagination, loved by those with a sweet tooth. the new wonka film is premiered in london. there has been plenty of diplomatic reaction to the situation in gaza. and my colleague sally bundock spoke to helen clark, the former prime minister of new zealand, who also served as the administrator of the un development programme from 2009 to 2017.
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she is also a member of the elders, an international non—governmental organisation of public figures who are calling for a shift in policy from us presidentjoe biden. the elders were started with nelson mandela as patron, kofi annan has chaired it, until his untimely death, and now it is the former president of ireland mary robinson. and mary robinson and ban ki—moon, former un secretary—general, both actually visited israel palestine backin actually visited israel palestine back in may this year and came away extremely worried about what they saw. and it was really with a sense of dread that the elders saw these events unfold. so, we did in the past of weeks right to president biden, we said that it needed him to step up now to rally forces for peace. there needs to be a clear plan for peace. now, clearly the longer you can keep a cessation of
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hostilities and a truce going, the more chance you have of building the conditions for peace. but it is going to need a big coalition of countries beyond israel palestine and its borders to really be pushing for once and all to get that two—state solution internationally supported in place. two-state solution internationally supported in place.— two-state solution internationally supported in place. now, i've read this letter that _ supported in place. now, i've read this letter that you _ supported in place. now, i've read this letter that you have _ supported in place. now, i've read this letter that you have sent - supported in place. now, i've read this letter that you have sent to i this letter that you have sent to president biden, which you have signed, helen, so, you talk about his leadership, how key it is that the us does lead on this, how do you see their leadership so far and the leadership of president biden on this so far?— leadership of president biden on this so far? ~ , �* this so far? well, president biden has made it _ this so far? well, president biden has made it very _ this so far? well, president biden has made it very clear _ this so far? well, president biden has made it very clear where - this so far? well, president biden has made it very clear where he i has made it very clear where he stands with respect to israel. but he's also obviously hearing other voices of great concern about the carnage which has occurred in gaza as a result of the bombardment. he
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has himself, several times during this current conflict, returned to the need for the two—state agreement. so, while in the situation we are in everything looks bleak, sometimes it is at the bleakest hour that people will step forward and say, we cannot continue to go through this. so, the us can't achieve this on its own, whatever its influence with israel may be. this needs a big group of actors to come together, i'm heartened that the european union is calling for an international peace conference, go back to madrid, where there was 1/30 years ago. we've had so many failed attempts, but can the horror we see now propel the world community to come together and to say to all forces between israel and palestine, please, neveragain, please negotiate on the solution that is on the table. it negotiate on the solution that is on the table. ., , ,. , the table. it has been described many times _ the table. it has been described many times as _ the table. it has been described many times as the _ the table. it has been described many times as the forever - the table. it has been described many times as the forever war, | the table. it has been described - many times as the forever war, this conflict in israel, in palestine, in
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gaza, one of the things you mention in this letter is the current leadership on both sides are not the right leaders to see through a peace agreement, give us your take on that? , a, that? so, the letter says that we don't believe _ that? so, the letter says that we don't believe that _ that? so, the letter says that we don't believe that israel- that? so, the letter says that we don't believe that israel and - don't believe that israel and palestine can do this on their own, and clearly implicit in that is, do the leaders currently in place there have the will, the capacity, to do this on their own? no, they don't. which is why the support of the us and europe, the support of the gulf states, egypt, jordan, the support of turkey, which is in the near neighbourhood, the support of others who have an interest in not seeing this go on and on. i think the coalition can be built, i think the us can't do it on its own, either, but the us now opening the door to others to come into the
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conversation, and that includes the un, which has often been somewhat marginalised on the issue of how to bring peace to the region, if we all work together, we could get the solution. but it needs many to tango, notjust two.— solution. but it needs many to tango, notjust two. also, it needs determination, _ tango, notjust two. also, it needs determination, resilience - tango, notjust two. also, it needs determination, resilience and - tango, notjust two. also, it needs determination, resilience and a - determination, resilience and a commitment for the long haul on this, doesn't it, something that you say clearly in this letter is, this is not going to be a quick fix by any means, and i'm sure everybody would agree with that? it will take some time to see through a peaceful outcome, whatever that looks like. given the political changes that we are going to see in the year ahead, it is a tumultuous year, 2024, we've got an election in the united states, in india, probably in the united kingdom, lots of leadership change across europe, it is a time when there could be a lot of change in politics globally? yes.
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when there could be a lot of change in politics globally?— in politics globally? yes, indeed. and often it _ in politics globally? yes, indeed. and often it has _ in politics globally? yes, indeed. and often it has been _ in politics globally? yes, indeed. and often it has been in - in politics globally? yes, indeed. and often it has been in the - in politics globally? yes, indeed. and often it has been in the last| and often it has been in the last year of an american presidency where a serious effort has been made to try to address the issue of the two—state solution. so, we're coming up two—state solution. so, we're coming up to that year again, we don't know what the end of the year will bring but i think 2024 is a critical year, if there is ever a year to try and do it, to build the confidence between the two sides, and it is in the end about confidence building measures, that is why a sustained truce in gaza is so important, then we could just crack it. but if we waste this opportunity now, when will it come back again?— waste this opportunity now, when will it come back again? helen, what is our cut will it come back again? helen, what is your gut feeling — will it come back again? helen, what is your gut feeling about _ will it come back again? helen, what is your gut feeling about this? - will it come back again? helen, what is your gut feeling about this? you i is your gut feeling about this? you have been to gaza in your role at the united nations, of course you are the elders with mary robinson, kofi annan and others, what is your gut feeling telling you about this situation which my gut feeling is telling me that it is incredibly hard. but my gut feeling is also
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telling me that on both sides of the line, israelis and palestinians want a future of peace and security where they can get on with their lives. i think one of the most powerful pressures on the israeli government now is the families of the hostages, because if a true sense now, with half the hostages still there, well, there's huge grief and concern in israel, and of course we're seeing many young people and also some women in released from israeli detention who really shouldn't have been there. so, now is the time, i know it's hard, but if not now, when do we try? helen clarke, former prime minister of new zealand. let's talk more about the aid situation in gaza. i'm joined now by bushra khalidi, 0xfam s policy lead, who's in ramallah. —— helen clark. welcome to you. what do you understand about what is happening in terms of aid are getting through to those people in gaza? ,, ., ., getting through to those people in gaza? ., ., , , getting through to those people in
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gaza? ., .,, , u, gaza? so, the aid has been coming in, as it gaza? so, the aid has been coming in. as it has. _ gaza? so, the aid has been coming in, as it has, before _ gaza? so, the aid has been coming in, as it has, before the _ gaza? so, the aid has been coming in, as it has, before the pause, - gaza? so, the aid has been coming in, as it has, before the pause, but basically now we don't have relentless bombardment or fear that we might lose some more aid workers, which the un already has many. there has been an increase in the trucks, up has been an increase in the trucks, up to 400, but we know that not all of them have come in every day. we know that only a few dozen have reached the north and it's also unclear how many people remain in the north. we're talking between 200000 and half a million people still potentially stranded in the north, unable to evacuate or unwilling to do so, and understandably so. so, i think it is not about a, it is about what this pause has provided for people in gaza, it provided them a glimpse into a very, very concerning future, people realised during this pause that their homes had been destroyed, that their homes had been destroyed, that their homes had been destroyed, that their belongings have gone, and
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really that their future has been shattered. there's no schools, no hospitals, very few running, and if they are running, they are running at maximum capacity with very little supplies and very little abilities. and water and electricity have still not been restored to gaza, nor have telecom, 100%. so, the aid should be a parallel support with the construction of gaza and should be sustained and we welcome the increase of trucks, of course, but these are not the key priorities, these are not the key priorities, the key priorities are a permanent ceasefire, so that we can brilliant meaningfully deliver a, an increase in the entry of fuel, because the fuel currently is not running the wastewater treatment plants or the power plants or the bakeries or the hospitals. so, the impact of this pauseis hospitals. so, the impact of this pause is not really being felt by
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ordinary gazans. if anything, like i said, they havejust ordinary gazans. if anything, like i said, they have just caught a glimpse into a really, really grim future. and that is understandable with so much of the north destroyed and so many personalfamily situation is now in very dire circumstances.— situation is now in very dire circumstances. the reality is, reconstruction _ circumstances. the reality is, reconstruction cannot - circumstances. the reality is, reconstruction cannot begin l circumstances. the reality is, i reconstruction cannot begin until there is a definite end in the hostilities, though? absolutely, exact and it _ hostilities, though? absolutely, exact and it is _ hostilities, though? absolutely, exact and it is not _ hostilities, though? absolutely, exact and it is notjust _ hostilities, though? absolutely, exact and it is notjust in - hostilities, though? absolutely, exact and it is notjust in the - exact and it is notjust in the north, by the way, there are entire neighbourhoods that have been raised to the ground in the south and in the middle area. the carpet bombing tactics that have been used have actually been used all across the gaza strip and this is why we have been stressing that there are no safe areas in gaza. my family has been displaced three times in gaza, and twice in the south. so, you know, and theyjust realised during this pause they were able to get in touch with neighbours of theirs that were in gaza city, which is where they are originally from, that went
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to the home and realised yesterday that the home was partially destroyed and a home for everybody is a dream and a home is a sanctuary, and a home is where you build your dreams as you build your children's dreams and their hopes, and not having a home, i think you and not having a home, i think you and i can both imagine what pain causes for people, let alone for those people that have also lost their entire families. so, i cannot stress enough that a permanent ceasefire is the only way for us as humanitarians to be able to deliver meaningfully and respond meaningfully and respond meaningfully to this unprecedented crisis. this is an unprecedented situation where we have almost 1.8 million people forcibly displaced, collectively punished by israel, by shutting off water and services and food and medical supplies and fuel. and these are war crimes. and not
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only do we need a permanent ceasefire, i think we need a permanent solution to this. and my nephews that live in gaza, this is not the first time they have lived this, every two years of their lives they have encountered, endured a war, they have never left gaza because they have never been allowed to. so, you know, also, we need an end to the siege in gaza. and an end to the occupation, and accountability, perpetrators of violence, all perpetrators of violence, all perpetrators of violence, should be held accountable for war crimes.— violence, should be held accountable for war crimes. thank you very much, and i'm for war crimes. thank you very much, and i'm sorry — for war crimes. thank you very much, and i'm sorry this _ for war crimes. thank you very much, and i'm sorry this is _ for war crimes. thank you very much, and i'm sorry this is very _ for war crimes. thank you very much, and i'm sorry this is very personal- and i'm sorry this is very personal and i'm sorry this is very personal and a difficult situation for you and a difficult situation for you and yourfamily, and as you and a difficult situation for you and your family, and as you would understand as well, israel would say they can't live next door to hamas, which is... i they can't live next door to hamas, which is- - -— which is... iwould disagree, i have many israeli _ which is... iwould disagree, i have many israeli friends _ which is... iwould disagree, i have many israeli friends and _ which is... iwould disagree, i have many israeli friends and we - which is... iwould disagree, i have many israeli friends and we work. many israeli friends and we work with israeli partners who actually disagree with that, and i think that there is a huge portion of population in israel which is not being heard right now by their
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government, their respective government, their respective government, and we saw this before 7th october, we had hundreds of thousands of israelis protesting in the streets against this right—wing government... that the streets against this right-wing government - -_ government... that is a different thing protesting _ government... that is a different thing protesting against - government... that is a different thing protesting against a - thing protesting against a government and a government saying, how can they live next door to an organisation designated a terrorist organisation, hamas, by many countries around the world including the us and the uk which perpetrated this horrendous attack on israel on 7th october in which 1200 people were murdered. but 7th october in which 1200 people were murdered.— 7th october in which 1200 people were murdered. but israel has been imprisoning — were murdered. but israel has been imprisoning palestinians _ were murdered. but israel has been imprisoning palestinians for - were murdered. but israel has been| imprisoning palestinians for decades without trial or arrest. it has occupied, it is an extinct land here in the west bank, i live in ramallah, i live under military occupation, and there is no hamas governing authority here, yet there is not a palestinian family or palestinian people here in the west bank that don't have relatives or friends that have been either put in prison, arrested, under administrative detention. there are
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640 checkpoints, enclosures, we cannot move from one city to the other. and here, seven communities since 7th october have been forcibly displaced and expelled. 50. since 7th october have been forcibly displaced and expelled.— displaced and expelled. so, would ou sa displaced and expelled. so, would you say that _ displaced and expelled. so, would you say that hamas _ displaced and expelled. so, would you say that hamas were - displaced and expelled. so, would you say that hamas were justified | displaced and expelled. so, would i you say that hamas were justified in their actions? you say that hamas were justified in theiractions? ida. you say that hamas were 'ustified in their actions?— their actions? no, of course they are notjustified _ their actions? no, of course they are notjustified in _ their actions? no, of course they are notjustified in their - their actions? no, of course they are notjustified in their actions, | are notjustified in their actions, when did i ever say that? i am askint. when did i ever say that? i am asking- iitut — when did i ever say that? i am asking. but there _ when did i ever say that? i am asking. but there is _ when did i ever say that? i am asking. but there is a - when did i ever say that? i am asking. but there is a context| when did i ever say that? i am l asking. but there is a context to this that has _ asking. but there is a context to this that has fostered _ asking. but there is a context to this that has fostered violence l asking. but there is a context to i this that has fostered violence and has allowed violence to fester. and this is the root causes and when we talk about the root causes, that is military occupation and the siege on gaza, people have been living under siege, in an open—air prison, for 16 years, children have lived in an open prison for 16 years, not allowed to leave, not allowed to seek education outside of gaza, not allowed to seek help outside of gaza. what about all the cancer patients that should be getting treatment in the west bank and israel that are not allowed to leave? �* �* ., , israel that are not allowed to leave? �* .,, leave? aren't many palestinians ttettin leave? aren't many palestinians getting treatment _ leave? aren't many palestinians getting treatment in _ leave? aren't many palestinians getting treatment in israel, - leave? aren't many palestinians getting treatment in israel, thatj leave? aren't many palestinians l getting treatment in israel, that is the case that some are given treatment, i have seen that myself?
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they are stuck here, those that were getting treatment before 7th october that are unable to return back to gaza because... but that are unable to return back to gaza because. . ._ that are unable to return back to gaza because... but previously to 7th october- _ gaza because. .. but previously to 7th october- i— gaza because... but previously to 7th october. | just _ gaza because... but previously to 7th october. i just want _ gaza because... but previously to 7th october. i just want to - gaza because... but previously to 7th october. i just want to say - gaza because... but previously to | 7th october. i just want to say that 7th october. i 'ust want to say that man of 7th october. i just want to say that many of them. _ 7th october. i just want to say that many of them, most _ 7th october. i just want to say that many of them, most of _ 7th october. i just want to say that many of them, most of them, - 7th october. i just want to say that j many of them, most of them, 9996 7th october. i just want to say that i many of them, most of them, 99% of them, their permits have been refused to get treatment here in israel, including children, two children died last year because they were not allowed to get treatment in israel for cancer. so it is important to conceptualise. pause, thank ou important to conceptualise. pause, thank you for— important to conceptualise. pause, thank you for being _ important to conceptualise. pause, thank you for being with _ important to conceptualise. pause, thank you for being with us - important to conceptualise. pause, thank you for being with us from i thank you for being with us from ramallah. —— bushra khalidi. the australian prime minister has issued a formal apology in parliament to survivors of the thalidomide scandal and their families. anthony albanese offered an unreserved apology to all those who suffered major birth defects as a result of the drug widely promoted in the late 1950s and early 1960s to relieve morning sickness in pregnant women. albanese called it "one of the darkest chapters in the country's medical history". live now to sydney and our correspondent phil mercer. as we just referenced there, phil,
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this is a tragedy 60 years in the making, why this apology now? iaihi’eiiii. making, why this apology now? well, this was a pregnancy _ making, why this apology now? -ii this was a pregnancy drug that became a pharmaceutical disaster. it is a 62 years to the day since thalidomide was withdrawn from sale in australia, the straight prime minister, anthony albanese hey, has delivered this national apology to the federal parliament in canberra, saying that in the past, the authorities failed to evaluate this drug before it was allowed to be sold in this country for he has paid tribute to survivors and the family members of victims, saying that the bullion, the trauma and the rejection, along with the pain out of the house they've suffered almost every day of their lives, made them warriors, mr albanese says that a lifelong support scheme for survivors will continue and as you say he made reference to the
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thalidomide scandal as one of the darkest chapters in australia's medical history. now, in this darkness, there has been sunlight. the phyllida ball tragedy did result in far more stringent testing of drugs, and also changes to the way that pharmaceuticals were marketed and approved, so, we had dozens of survivors and family members attend canberra today and they were here really to listen to one powerful word, sorry. and for many of these individuals, it will help them towards healing. 0ther survivors say that this apology has come far too late. ., ., that this apology has come far too late. . «i , ., that this apology has come far too late. . «i i. ., ., around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news.
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the government has commissioned advisers to find suitable sites for advisers to find suitable sites for a new national park, the announcement comes as wales and scotland are also consulting on plans. but some say creating new national parks could risk funding being overstretched. claire marshall reports. the remote peaks, and coming waters of britain's national parks. part of a post—war vision to protect the jewels in the crown of the british countryside. in his first major policy announcement, the new environment secretary travelled to a landscape restoration project in kent to reveal plans for a new park in england.— in kent to reveal plans for a new park in england. they are a really im-ortant park in england. they are a really important part — park in england. they are a really important part of— park in england. they are a really important part of our— park in england. they are a really important part of our way - park in england. they are a really important part of our way of- park in england. they are a really important part of our way of life, | important part of our way of life, that's why we're launching this competition for a new national park, but we're going further than that,
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we are putting in an extra 5 million this year, extra 10 billion next year, people enjoy the national parks for a reason, we want to expand that and really build on the history we have, and have a further national park as part of that process. national park as part of that trocess. , ., ., ., , ., �* process. lines on a map haven't even been drawn — process. lines on a map haven't even been drawn yet. _ process. lines on a map haven't even been drawn yet, it _ process. lines on a map haven't even been drawn yet, it will _ process. lines on a map haven't even been drawn yet, it will take _ process. lines on a map haven't even been drawn yet, it will take years i been drawn yet, it will take years for this new national park to become a reality, and in the meantime, the existing network is already struggling. like here on dartmoor, where dwindling park resources makes it a challenge to front even vital repair work like shoring up eroded footpaths. park chiefs will study the new funding announcement carefully. the new funding announcement carefull . , carefully. the devil is in the detail. what _ carefully. the devil is in the detail. what we _ carefully. the devil is in the detail. what we really i carefully. the devil is in the detail. what we really need j carefully. the devil is in the l detail. what we really need is revenue funding to pay for salaries of staff on the ground. feet on the ground helps us to deliver tactical projects for nature and for people. because with the natural world in steep decline, this vision of a new national park must be more than just
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wishful thinking. national park must be more than just wishfulthinking. claire national park must be more than just wishful thinking. claire marshall, bbc news. i'm sure we will have plenty more on those plans. you're watching bbc news. now, we are about to enter a world of pure imagination filled with all the chocolate and sweets you could possibly want. you may not be able to eat them, though. it may not be quite as you remember because this is the new film focusing on the origin story of young willy wonka with timothee chalamet in the starring role alongside lucas, 0livia colman and hugh grant. the uk premiere was last night. willy wonka, back on the big screen. this time it is the story of his humble beginnings and how he became a world—famous chocolate maker beloved by so many. my name is willy wonka! and the title role, it's timothee chalamet. prepare to be amazed.
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the 27—year—old dune star becomes the third actor to step into the shoes of the iconic inventor after gene wilder in 1971 and johnny depp in 2005. 0n the red carpet, crowds of fans queued for hours to get a sight of the stars. well, some fans are just here to soak up the atmosphere, but others are desperate to try and catch a glimpse of one man in particular, timothee chalamet, who has become hollywood's latest heart—throb. people are very protective over characters they love, particularly willy wonka. they don't want to see people mess it up. but we were in great hands with paul king. and it's not the story of charlie and the chocolate factory. it's a different story. it's the story of how willy wonka became willy wonka. and i think we did a greatjob. starring alongside him is 14—year—old calah lane. she plays a young orphan girl noodle who befriends wonka. i'm just, i'm so excited and ijust can't believe it. i got an idea. where do we start? what was the best thing about the whole experience? i mean, just being on set and just having, you know, getting like a second family,
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basically, with everybody. chocolate of the world. ooh! here's another heart—throb. now an 0ompa loompa. it's hugh grant, but not as you've ever seen him before as he takes on the role of lofty, complete with an orange face and green hair. i will have you know that i am a perfectly respectable size for an 0ompa loompa. # 0ompa loompa, dumpedy—dee. but it's something of a departure for grant, who's best known for playing quintessentially english gentlemen in films like notting hill and love actually. huh! but his casting faced criticism over the decision not to give the role to an actor with dwarfism. well, it's obviously something because you said, "huh." director paul king of paddington fame explained the decision. well, i think the great thing about the oompa loompas is they're extraordinary creatures. and dahl describes them as no higher than my knee or about the size of a medium sized doll.
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and we tried to use the iconic look that they came up with in the 1971 movie with the green hair and the orange skin and sort of merged that with the way dahl described them in a way that i think that maybe they would have done had they had the technology of today. the star—studded cast also includes oscar winner 0livia colman as villainous shopkeeper mrs scrubbit, mr bean actor rowan atkinson as a priest and american comedian and actor keegan—michael key as the chief of police. it was an honour, an absolute honour to be to be asked to be a part of this movie and to be a part of this legacy of roald dahl�*s creation. you're going to get more than a bonk on the head. i think that this certainly exists in the spirit of what he created. making chocolate, of course. roald dahl�*s book has been adored by generations of children and adults alike. film—makers will be hoping wonka can repeat the success. noor nanji, bbc news. the wildlife photographer of the year people's choice award is going ahead and here are the shortlisted
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pictures, with the winning image to be decided by the public. we actually can't bring those pictures to you, we're having some technical issues. i will have to describe them to you, i have actually seen them! you will have to go online and have a look, because there is a fantastic of a pony bear making a bed out of floating ice. that was taken in norway. not very good telly, describing photos, is it? we will bring those to you later and you can check them out on the bbc website, so beautifuljust for you. let's get a weather picture now, with matt taylor, who i promise you is there, can tell is how cold it is going to be. one or two, a different story
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with signs of winter. we have seen snow in parts of north—east england and scotland. the covering of snow is very limited. this is cloud to the south and west with a few rain showers mixed in, and they will become more prolonged later in the day. but for most of you, we stay dry, good deals of sunshine, but cold. where we would expect at this stage of november. tonight, the wind changes direction a little bit, so we could see a few more of you across scotland. northern england getting a slight covering of snow. and on the higher ground in the south—west, dartmoor and towards bodmin, we could see a dusting of snow into the morning. but for most, clear skies and a widespread frost with the risk of ice tomorrow morning. this is the set—up for tomorrow. it does look like the low pressure will go into france, while cornwall could see outbreaks of rain, the odd heavier
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burst on the south coast. 0n the higher ground, and towards bodmin, we could see a bit of snow at times. wintry flurries in scotland. maybe even towards east anglia and the far south—east. but for most of you, another sunny day and another very cold one with temperatures in single figures. in low— to mid—single figures. a frosty night to take us into friday and the weekend. a change in wind direction a little bit. a slightly more west or north westerly, and that will change where we see the showers into friday. there could be a few wintry winds in the south—east to begin with then in western areas later in the day. fewer showers in the east but a cold day. temperatures barely above freezing in scotland and northern england. and with that westerly wind taking effect into the weekend, a few more showers in the west, but sunday they could be
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a greater chance of rain, sleet and snow crossing the country. but the cold feel will continue all the way into the start of next week. you're watching bbc news. the covid inquiry continues today with professor danger no her and the former health secretary sajid javid, due to give their accounts of events surrounding the pandemic. the former foreign secretary dominic raab also due to address the inquiry this afternoon. we can go live now to ellie price, who is at the inquiry, and jenny harries have started giving her testimony yesterday, just remind us what she had to say, ellie? , ._ , remind us what she had to say, ellie? , , ,_ ellie? yesterday she probably did not tet as ellie? yesterday she probably did not get as long — ellie? yesterday she probably did not get as long as _ ellie? yesterday she probably did not get as long as she _ ellie? yesterday she probably did not get as long as she had i ellie? yesterday she probably did not get as long as she had hoped| ellie? yesterday she probably did i not get as long as she had hoped or maybe she did get as long as you would have hoped for, but she has certainly come back today. showers
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asked about a press conference she attended in which she basically said that she felt britain was well prepared for the pandemic, it was something which later she felt she needed to clarify and apologise for but she said it was not really her remit, it was something that she had been told by other experts and advisers that everything was in hand. it was something she said she felt guilty about or at least bad about that it was not quite, things were not quite as they seem. and it's a slightly strange timing with her because in effect it was science week last week this week feels like it is mainly politicians but obviously she did play key role at the time as deputy chief medical officer so i think i testimony is 0fficer so i think i testimony is still very important in terms of how those decisions were made but as you say we are expecting to hear from the former health secretary sajid javid. he took over from matt hancock at the tail end of the pandemic, so the spring of 2021, when matt hancock ended up resigning as health secretary because of a scandal where he broke his own social distancing rules. so,
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obviously there will be questions about his time as health secretary and i think also look out for questions from before that because of course a judge of it was chancellor at the beginning of 2020, he ended up resigning after a very high profile row with dominic cummings. —— sajid javid. in the february of that year. and obviously there has been plenty made in the witness to study so far about the relationships within government, within no 10 and between key advisers like dominic cummings and borisjohnson and how it all works and the toxic culture that we've had so much about, so i think there will be plenty that he will properly want to say on that as well. and sajid javid's testimony comes before matt hancock is due to speak, who will be in for a day and a half. he is a key focus of this part of the inquiry. he is a key focus of this part of the inquiry-— he is a key focus of this part of theintui . ., , the inquiry. matt hancock will be somethint the inquiry. matt hancock will be something of— the inquiry. matt hancock will be something of a _ the inquiry. matt hancock will be something of a blockbuster i the inquiry. matt hancock will be | something of a blockbuster figure something of a blockbusterfigure when he comes here tomorrow. he has
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been slated for a couple of

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