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ww? : mu? consfiifiuenfts land. 50 many of my constituents asked me land. so many of my constituents asked me to _ land. so many of my constituents asked me to press _ land. so many of my constituents asked me to press the _ land. so many of my constituents | asked me to press the government regarding _ asked me to press the government regarding its actions to secure a ceasefire — regarding its actions to secure a ceasefire and help the suffering of innocent _ ceasefire and help the suffering of innocent civilian in gaza. carrie asked — innocent civilian in gaza. carrie asked the _ innocent civilian in gaza. carrie asked the minister, what recent discussions has the foreign secretary held to urge israel not to besiege _ secretary held to urge israel not to besiege blockade gaza, to comply with law— besiege blockade gaza, to comply with law and innocent lives? the foreign secretary has been active in engaging with many different nations and he was in israeljust some time ago map making the point that we must ensure that the point that we must ensure that the humanitarian impact of this contract is constrained and limited. innocent palestinians are facing an unimaginable nightmare with a humanitarian catastrophe and thousands of civilians including chitdren— thousands of civilians including children being killed. further to his remarks earlier, can he provide more _ his remarks earlier, can he provide more detait— his remarks earlier, can he provide more detail about what the uk government is doing to urge israel
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not to— government is doing to urge israel not to proceed on blockade gaza, to comply— not to proceed on blockade gaza, to comply with international law and protect _ comply with international law and protect innocent lives?— comply with international law and protect innocent lives? pointing out that all sides _ protect innocent lives? pointing out that all sides must _ protect innocent lives? pointing out that all sides must abide _ protect innocent lives? pointing out that all sides must abide by - that all sides must abide by international humanitarian law, that ultimately there cannot be a military solution to pull it problems in the middle east, clearly the terrorist group her weight we hope not have a political row representing the palestinian people, but de—escalation and peace must come first. i but de-escalation and peace must come first-— but de-escalation and peace must come first. ., ,, ~ , ., come first. i thank the minister for answerin: come first. i thank the minister for answering the _ come first. i thank the minister for answering the urgent _ come first. i thank the minister for answering the urgent question. - answering the urgent question. foreign— answering the urgent question. foreign office minister answering questions about the situation in gaza, we are staying in the commons because james cleverley is going to get to his feet talk about migration. i get to his feet talk about migration-— get to his feet talk about migration. get to his feet talk about miaration. ., ,, ., ., ,, ., migration. i would like to make a statement _ migration. i would like to make a statement to _ migration. i would like to make a statement to the _ migration. i would like to make a statement to the house - migration. i would like to make a statement to the house on - migration. i would like to make a statement to the house on legal| statement to the house on legal migration. migration to this country is far too high and needs to come
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down. today we are taking more robust action than any other government before in order to ring this down. this is my first day in the home office, just three weeks ago, i have been determined to crackdown on those who try to jump the queue and exploit our immigration system, i have been working closely with my right honourable friend the immigration minister on this subject. the recent figures from the ons show a provisional estimate for net migration on the year ending june 2023 of 672,000. whilst this is lower than the ons estimate for net migration for the year ending december 2022, migration for the year ending december2022, it migration for the year ending december 2022, it is still far too high. when our country voted to leave the eu, we also voted to take back control of our borders. thanks to this conservative government we
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have a points—based immigration system through which we can control who comes to the uk. we prioritise the skills and talent that we need to grow our economy and to support our nhs, and we have a competitive visa system for globally mobile talent. for example, last yearwe expanded our health worker bees access to address the urgent need for more social care workers. the whole country can also be proud that in the last decade we have welcomed more than half a million people through humanitarian routes. people from ukraine, from hong kong, from afghanistan, including 85,000 from ukraine and hong kong in the last year alone. the british people will always do the right thing by those in need. but they also, and they are
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absolutely right to, want to reduce overall immigration numbers. not only by stopping the boats and shutting down illegal routes, but by well—managed reduction in legal my. people are understandably worried about housing, about gp appointments, about school places, and access to other public services when they can see their communities growing and growing quickly. from january 2024, the right for international students to bring dependents will be removed unless they are on postgraduate courses designated as a research programme. we always want to attract the global brightest and best. we have also stopped international students from switching out the student route into work boots before their studies have
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been completed. these changes will have a tangible impact on net. around 153,000 visas were granted to dependents of sponsored students in the year ending september 2023. today i can announce that we will go even further than those provisions already in place with a five—point plan to further curb immigration abuses and that will deliver the biggest ever reduction in net migration. in total, this package, plus our reduction in student —dependents, will mean around 300,000 fewer people will come in future years that have come to the uk last year. these measures are possible because we are building up our domestic workforce and supporting british workers. thanks to the excellent work of my right honourable friend the works and pensions secretary our back to work
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plan will help people stay healthy, get off benefits and move into sustainable employment. it builds on the ambitious £7 billion employment package from the spring budget to help up to 1.1 million people with long—term health conditions, disabilities or who have been long—term unemployment to look for work to get into work and to stay in work. we are also investing heavily in helping adults learn valuable skills and prepare for the economy of the future. and of course we have world—class universities that help in that endeavour. the five—point plan, the first of the five points will be to end the abuse of the health and care visa. do we. overseas care workers from bringing family dependents and we will require care firms in england to be regulated by the care quality
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commission in orderfor them to sponsor visas. approximately 120,000 dependents accompanied 100,000 care workers and senior care workers in the year ending september 2023. only 25% of dependents are estimated to be in work. meaning a significant number are drawing on public services, ratherthan number are drawing on public services, rather than helping to grow the economy. we recognise that foreign workers do great work in our nhs and health sector. but it is also important that migrants make a big enough financial dilution, therefore we will annual immigration health surcharge this year by 66% for £624 to £1035. to raise an
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average about £1.3 billion for the health services of this country every year. second, we will stop immigration undercutting the salary of british workers. we will increase the skilled worker earnings threshold by a third to 13,700 from next spring, in line with the median full—term wage for those kinds of jobs. those coming on health and social care visa routes will be exempt, so we can continue to bring in health care workers on which our care sector and nhs relies. thirdly, we will scrap cut—price shortage labour from overseas. we will scrap cut—price shortage labourfrom overseas. by ending we will scrap cut—price shortage labour from overseas. by ending the 20% going right salary discount for shortage occupations, and reforming the shortage occupation list. i have asked the migration advisory
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committee to review the occupations on this list because of our new hire skilled worker salary threshold, and we will create a new immigration salary list with a reduced number of occupations in coordination with their four play, we will ensure people only bring dependents or they can support financially. by raising the minimum income forfamily can support financially. by raising the minimum income for family visas to the same threshold as the minimum salary threshold for skilled workers, 13,000 700. the minimum income requirement —— 13,700 —— has not been increased since 2012. this package of measures will take place from next spring. finally, having already banned overseas masters students from bringing family members to the uk, higher fast the migration advisory committee to review the graduate route to prevent
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abuse, to protect the integrity and quality of the uk's outstanding higher education sector. it needs to work in the best interests of the uk. supporting the pathway into high—qualityjobs for the global high—quality jobs for the global talent high—qualityjobs for the global talent pool but reducing opportunities for abuse. this package of measures, taken with the measures on student —dependents we have already announced in may, means that around 300,000 fewer people will be eligible to come to the uk than were coming last year. this is the largest reduction on record. immigration policy must be fair, consistent, legal and sustainable. that is why we are also taking the fight to illegal. our plan to stop
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the boats is working. small boat arrivals are down by a third, even as illegal migration bill because the rest of europe is on the rise. today we have taken decisive action to reduce lidl —— illegal —— illegal migration bill 55—point plan. enough is enough. we are curbing abuses to the health care visa. we are increasing thresholds, cutting the sql discount, increasing family income requirements, and cutting the number of student dependents and i commend this statement to the house. shadow home secretary yvette cooper. well, i_ shadow home secretary yvette cooper. welt, ithink— shadow home secretary yvette cooper. well, i think the — shadow home secretary yvette cooper. well, i think the home _ shadow home secretary yvette cooper. well, i think the home secretary- shadow home secretary yvette cooper. well, i think the home secretary for. well, i think the home secretary for advance _ well, i think the home secretary for advance out of this statement. today's — advance out of this statement. today's statement is an admission of years— today's statement is an admission of years of— today's statement is an admission of years of total failure by this conservative government, failure on
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the immigration system and felt her on the _ the immigration system and felt her on the economy. it is another example _ on the economy. it is another example of the total chaos at the heart _ example of the total chaos at the heart of — example of the total chaos at the heart of this government. net great and has _ heart of this government. net great and has trebled since the last election. _ and has trebled since the last election, since the conservatives promised — election, since the conservatives promised to reduce it, and trebled as a result — promised to reduce it, and trebled as a result of their policies on the economy— as a result of their policies on the economy and on immigration, including _ economy and on immigration, including the prime minister's policy— including the prime minister's policy decisions. in a chaotic panic. — policy decisions. in a chaotic panic. the _ policy decisions. in a chaotic panic, the prime minister now opposes— panic, the prime minister now opposes the policies he introduced and thinks — opposes the policies he introduced and thinks that their own decisions at problem — and thinks that their own decisions at problem but who does the home secretary— at problem but who does the home secretary think has been in charge for the _ secretary think has been in charge for the last— secretary think has been in charge for the last 13 years? more chaos, more _ for the last 13 years? more chaos, more veering all over the place. net nrigration— more veering all over the place. net migration should come down. labour has called _ migration should come down. labour has called for an end to the 20% unfair— has called for an end to the 20% unfair discount for increased salary threshold — unfair discount for increased salary threshold to prevent... an end to the unfair— threshold to prevent... an end to the unfair discount, also for increased _ the unfair discount, also for increased salary threshold to
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prevent _ increased salary threshold to prevent exploitation and include advice _ prevent exploitation and include advice from a strengthened migration advisory— advice from a strengthened migration advisory committee and most of all, we have _ advisory committee and most of all, we have called for a proper plan with clear— we have called for a proper plan with clear links between the immigration system and training and the economy, workforce plans, none of which _ the economy, workforce plans, none of which are — the economy, workforce plans, none of which are included in this statement today. because they have no grip. _ statement today. because they have no grip, no _ statement today. because they have no grip, no proper plan, this is a chaotic— no grip, no proper plan, this is a chaotic approach. immigration is important — chaotic approach. immigration is important for britain. rightly we have _ important for britain. rightly we have helped ukraine and hong kong, we benefit _ have helped ukraine and hong kong, we benefit from international talent and students. that is why the immigration system needs to be controlled and managed, so that it's fair and _ controlled and managed, so that it's fair and effective, and also why net nrigration— fair and effective, and also why net migration should come down from these _ migration should come down from these record levels. but there needs to be a _ these record levels. but there needs to be a proper plan. it was this conservative government who brought in the _ conservative government who brought in the 20% _ conservative government who brought in the 20% wage discount that allowed — in the 20% wage discount that allowed employers to recruit at less than the _ allowed employers to recruit at less than the going rate. even though the nrigration— than the going rate. even though the migration advisory committee warned against _ migration advisory committee warned against it. _ migration advisory committee warned against it, even though it is
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completely unfair. they chose to apply— completely unfair. they chose to apply salary facials against lower than the — apply salary facials against lower than the migration advisory committee proposed, and not to update _ committee proposed, and not to update them for years. as chancellor and then— update them for years. as chancellor and then as _ update them for years. as chancellor and then as prime minister, the right— and then as prime minister, the right honourable member for richmond tightened _ right honourable member for richmond tightened the rules, including in may this— tightened the rules, including in may this year and including when they refused labour's calls to end they refused labour's calls to end the unfair— they refused labour's calls to end the unfair 20% discount. they repeatedly failed to listen to warnings about the failure to train or pay— warnings about the failure to train or pay properly here in the uk. 12 months _ or pay properly here in the uk. 12 months ago i warned that work visas had substantially increased as a result _ had substantially increased as a result of— had substantially increased as a result of major skills shortages in the uk _ result of major skills shortages in the uk and the conservatives were not taking — the uk and the conservatives were not taking any serious action to address— not taking any serious action to address those skill shortages. the leader— address those skill shortages. the leader of— address those skill shortages. the leader of the opposition 12 months a-o leader of the opposition 12 months ago warned the immigration system should _ ago warned the immigration system should be _ ago warned the immigration system should be linked to new requirements to train— should be linked to new requirements to train up— should be linked to new requirements to train up workers at home but the conservatives did nothing, and unbelievably they are still doing nothing — unbelievably they are still doing nothing. nothing in this statement about— nothing. nothing in this statement
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about training requirements or workforce plans. they say they want fewer _ workforce plans. they say they want fewer shortage occupations but it was only— fewer shortage occupations but it was only four months ago that they added _ was only four months ago that they added bricklayers, roof tilers, plasterers to the shortage list because — plasterers to the shortage list because they have totally failed on construction training at home. there are no— construction training at home. there are no plans — construction training at home. there are no plans to tackle that. engineering apprenticeships have halved _ engineering apprenticeships have halved since 2018, no wonder, engineering visas have gone up! nothing — engineering visas have gone up! nothing to track those failures, and social— nothing to track those failures, and social care — nothing to track those failures, and social care visas have gone up from 3500 _ social care visas have gone up from 3500 to _ social care visas have gone up from 3500 to over 100,000 a year because they have — 3500 to over 100,000 a year because they have failed for years to heed warnings — they have failed for years to heed warnings about recruitment and retention — warnings about recruitment and retention and social care. they halved — retention and social care. they halved the _ retention and social care. they halved the budget for social care workforce — halved the budget for social care workforce recruitment and support back in— workforce recruitment and support back in the — workforce recruitment and support back in the spring and still not listening. _ back in the spring and still not listening, still refusing to adopt labour's — listening, still refusing to adopt labour's plan for a proper workforce strategv _ labour's plan for a proper workforce strategy for — labour's plan for a proper workforce strategy for social care, including professional standards and unfair pay agreement. they are failing to tackle _ pay agreement. they are failing to tackle the — pay agreement. they are failing to tackle the delays in the asylum
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svstem — tackle the delays in the asylum system that have also boosted net migration — system that have also boosted net migration figures up, feeling typical— migration figures up, feeling typical nhs waiting list, preventing the long—term sick from going back to work _ the long—term sick from going back to work. the prime minister isjust crashing _ to work. the prime minister isjust crashing around all over the place. reversing — crashing around all over the place. reversing policies that he introduced, criticising policies he defended — introduced, criticising policies he defended six months ago, and introducing new immigration policies without— introducing new immigration policies without any of the economic policies to match _ without any of the economic policies to match. the previous prime minister— to match. the previous prime minister was accused of being a shopping — minister was accused of being a shopping trolley, veering around from _ shopping trolley, veering around from one — shopping trolley, veering around from one side to the other. the current— from one side to the other. the current prime minister is clearly veering — current prime minister is clearly veering but he is certainly not steering. _ veering but he is certainly not steering, he isjust climbing to someone — steering, he isjust climbing to someone else's shopping trolley and is being _ someone else's shopping trolley and is being pushed around all of the place _ is being pushed around all of the place can — is being pushed around all of the place. can the home secretary tell us, where — place. can the home secretary tell us, where is workforce plan on social— us, where is workforce plan on social care, _ us, where is workforce plan on social care, engineering, bricklaying, although shortage occupations that they total economic failure _ occupations that they total economic failure has _ occupations that they total economic failure has left us with? has the migration— failure has left us with? has the migration advisory committee advised on these _
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migration advisory committee advised on these policies command is a reform — on these policies command is a reform to — on these policies command is a reform to strengthen the committee so that _ reform to strengthen the committee so that they can do so? why are they still not _ so that they can do so? why are they still not introducing our requirements on employers, or on the government— requirements on employers, or on the government to address the skills and labour— government to address the skills and labour shortages that are driving the increase in the net migration in the increase in the net migration in the first— the increase in the net migration in the first place? the conservatives are in _ the first place? the conservatives are in chaos, they have no serious ptan _ are in chaos, they have no serious plan for— are in chaos, they have no serious plan for the — are in chaos, they have no serious plan for the economy, no serious ptan _ plan for the economy, no serious plan for— plan for the economy, no serious plan for the — plan for the economy, no serious plan for the immigration system, note series plan for the country. britain _ note series plan for the country. britain deserves better than this. " no— britain deserves better than this. —— no serious plan. | britain deserves better than this. -- no serious plan.— -- no serious plan. i was waiting for the policy _ -- no serious plan. i was waiting for the policy announcement - -- no serious plan. i was waiting l for the policy announcement from -- no serious plan. i was waiting - for the policy announcement from the labour party, sadly i am still waiting. she talks about skills training, hers was the party which in government dissuading people from bringing about, from investing in their own skills, telling people that the only good job was a graduatejob, undermining
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apprenticeships, something that we have set about repairing throughout our entire time in government. hers was the party in government failed to put transitional measures in place when the eu expanded. importing significant numbers of people in the construction industry, which meant there was a disincentive for investing in people and technology and productivity, a situation which she now decries. she fails to make reference to the £7 billion employment package that was announced in the spring budget that will help 1.1 billion people get back into work and stay in work. madam deputy speaker, when i was at the dispatch box in the days after my appointment, i said that labour had a plan for migration. the problem that they have got is that the plan they are proposing is the plan i am already implementing.
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working with my right honourable friend the immigration minister since the day i was appointed, we have put forward the most substantial package of legal migration reform is the country has ever seen. and they are great idea is already being put in place by this great government. i am is already being put in place by this great government. i am pleased to welcome — this great government. i am pleased to welcome but _ this great government. i am pleased to welcome but 4.5 _ this great government. i am pleased to welcome but 4.5 of— this great government. i am pleased to welcome but 4.5 of these - to welcome but 4.5 of these announcements that are right honourable friend has made, particularly the crackdown on the abuse _ particularly the crackdown on the abuse of— particularly the crackdown on the abuse of the dependents route which has proved _ abuse of the dependents route which has proved a weakness in the system of recent— has proved a weakness in the system of recent years, and the increase in the family— of recent years, and the increase in the family visa rate, and i can can show— the family visa rate, and i can can show him — the family visa rate, and i can can show him when he is told this will cause _ show him when he is told this will cause apocalyptic damage, when i first introduced it ten years ago,
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that was— first introduced it ten years ago, that was going to be apocalyptic for family— that was going to be apocalyptic for family life _ that was going to be apocalyptic for family life in this country, it wasn't — family life in this country, it wasn't then, it was the right protection then, i am glad he is increasing — protection then, i am glad he is increasing it now. however, can i ask him. — increasing it now. however, can i ask him, particularly about the health— ask him, particularly about the health and care visa, and in particular— health and care visa, and in particular the reduction or inability— particular the reduction or inability of people to be independents with them? how many care workers does he think will be deterred _ care workers does he think will be deterred by that? how much fewer will be _ deterred by that? how much fewer will be the — deterred by that? how much fewer will be the number is coming here? there _ will be the number is coming here? there is— will be the number is coming here? there is a _ will be the number is coming here? there is a huge shortage in the care sector— there is a huge shortage in the care sector at— there is a huge shortage in the care sector at the — there is a huge shortage in the care sector at the moment, about 150,000, and i sector at the moment, about 150,000, and i would _ sector at the moment, about 150,000, and i would hope that this isn't a significant — and i would hope that this isn't a significant contributor to the reduction in numbers, because if it is it would — reduction in numbers, because if it is it would cause damage to the care sector _ is it would cause damage to the care sector frie— is it would cause damage to the care sector. ~ , is it would cause damage to the care sector. y ., ., ., , sector. my right honourable friend asked an important _ sector. my right honourable friend asked an important question. - sector. my right honourable friend asked an important question. i - sector. my right honourable friend i asked an important question. i have asked an important question. i have a look in great detail, my right honourable friend the immigration minister and i have crashed these numbers in great detail. what we have seen through this particular
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scheme is the displacement of british workers, so the actual total numbers of people in this sector has not increased anywhere near as much at the number of people who have entered on this visa route. we also suspect globally there is significant surplus demand and whilst perhaps an individual with a family might be dissuaded because of the restrictions we have, it is almost certainly the case that someone else who does not have those family commitments will be willing to put themselves forward, so we do not envisage there being a significant reduction in demand because of these changes we have made but what it will mean is we have the care workers we need and not the estimated 120,000 other people that have in most recent years come in. i people that have in most recent years come im— years come in. i think this statement _ years come in. i think this statement will _ years come in. i think this statement will be - years come in. i think this statement will be judged l years come in. i think this l statement will be judged on years come in. i think this _ statement will be judged on whether it is pandering to the right wing of his own _
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it is pandering to the right wing of his own party of whether it actually addresses— his own party of whether it actually addresses the need of the economy. i see them _ addresses the need of the economy. i see them all cheering. can the home secretary— see them all cheering. can the home secretary adds that a number of questions? can he tell me of the dependent figures he mentioned, 120,000, — dependent figures he mentioned, 120,000, how many of those are children? — 120,000, how many of those are children? or is he suggesting that children— children? or is he suggesting that children should be going into work? what _ children should be going into work? what discusses the key happen the health _ what discusses the key happen the health secretary? he mentioned his discussions with the department for work and _ discussions with the department for work and pensions, what discusses how he _ work and pensions, what discusses how he had — work and pensions, what discusses how he had with the health secretary? home office figures show that 143,990 health care worker visas _ that 143,990 health care worker visas were granted in the year and september this year, visas were granted in the year and septemberthis year, more visas were granted in the year and september this year, more than double — september this year, more than double than september next year, which _ double than september next year, which demonstrates perhaps the real crisis and _ which demonstrates perhaps the real crisis and creating more parrots and red tape _ crisis and creating more parrots and red tape will have on the nhs and care sector. finally, professor brian— care sector. finally, professor brian bale, chair of the migration advisory— brian bale, chair of the migration advisory committee, recently warned
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that limits _ advisory committee, recently warned that limits on overseas care worker numbers— that limits on overseas care worker numbers could see a situation where lots of _ numbers could see a situation where lots of people won't get care. does the home — lots of people won't get care. does the home secretary recognise those remarks _ the home secretary recognise those remarks and recognise that his proposals _ remarks and recognise that his proposals may cause irrevocable harm to the _ proposals may cause irrevocable harm to the care _ proposals may cause irrevocable harm to the care sector? the proposals may cause irrevocable harm to the care sector?— to the care sector? the point about dependents — to the care sector? the point about dependents is _ to the care sector? the point about dependents is an _ to the care sector? the point about dependents is an incredibly - dependents is an incredibly important one. actually, if you had listened carefully to as i go to my right honourable friend, i made the point that we do not envisage a reduction in the number of people working in the care sector but a reduction in the number of people that are coming with those workers, people, the vast majority of whom, are not in work. whether they are children are at a rattle book adults, the truth is that great a burden on the british welfare system or education system, housing, school places, gp surgeries. the offer we
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are making is clear. we are supporting the health sector and social care sector. but we are doing social care sector. but we are doing so in a way that minimises the additional pressure on communities. and the point i would make is that it is incredibly easy for us to say and do things that might superficially be viewed as generous but the people who disproportionally carry the burden of the decisions we make are those who are on the lower salaries, who are struggling to find housing, rather on waiting list, and we should be conscious of their needs, that is why we are being thoughtful and careful about the people we are welcoming into our country. people we are welcoming into our count . �* ., ., ., , country. before we go any further, colleagues — country. before we go any further, colleagues will _ country. before we go any further, colleagues will recognise - country. before we go any further, colleagues will recognise a - country. before we go any further, colleagues will recognise a large . colleagues will recognise a large number— colleagues will recognise a large number of— colleagues will recognise a large number of people _ colleagues will recognise a large number of people wanting - colleagues will recognise a large number of people wanting to - colleagues will recognise a large . number of people wanting to catch colleagues will recognise a large - number of people wanting to catch my eye for— number of people wanting to catch my eye for this _ number of people wanting to catch my eye for this statement, _ number of people wanting to catch my eye for this statement, we _ number of people wanting to catch my eye for this statement, we have - eye for this statement, we have another— eye for this statement, we have another statement _ eye for this statement, we have another statement after - eye for this statement, we have another statement after that, l eye for this statement, we have l another statement after that, add then we _ another statement after that, add then we have _ another statement after that, add then we have an— another statement after that, add then we have an important- another statement after that, add then we have an important piece. another statement after that, add i then we have an important piece of
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legislation— then we have an important piece of legislation to — then we have an important piece of legislation to which _ then we have an important piece of legislation to which there _ then we have an important piece of legislation to which there have - then we have an important piece ofl legislation to which there have been a large _ legislation to which there have been a large number— legislation to which there have been a large number of— legislation to which there have been a large number of people _ legislation to which there have been a large number of people who - legislation to which there have been a large number of people who wantl legislation to which there have been i a large number of people who want to speak _ a large number of people who want to speak i_ a large number of people who want to speak i would — a large number of people who want to speak. i would urge _ a large number of people who want to speak. i would urge colleagues- a large number of people who want to speak. i would urge colleagues to - a large number of people who want to speak. i would urge colleagues to bel speak. i would urge colleagues to be brief in _ speak. i would urge colleagues to be brief in their— speak. i would urge colleagues to be brief in their questions _ speak. i would urge colleagues to be brief in their questions so _ speak. i would urge colleagues to be brief in their questions so that - speak. i would urge colleagues to be brief in their questions so that the i brief in their questions so that the home _ brief in their questions so that the home secretary— brief in their questions so that the home secretary can _ brief in their questions so that the home secretary can be _ brief in their questions so that the home secretary can be concise . brief in their questions so that the home secretary can be concise inl home secretary can be concise in answers. — home secretary can be concise in answers. and— home secretary can be concise in answers. and i_ home secretary can be concise in answers, and i will— home secretary can be concise in answers, and i will only- home secretary can be concise in answers, and i will only be - home secretary can be concise in| answers, and i will only be calling people _ answers, and i will only be calling people who — answers, and i will only be calling people who arrived _ answers, and i will only be calling people who arrived for _ answers, and i will only be calling people who arrived for the - answers, and i will only be calling i people who arrived for the beginning of the _ people who arrived for the beginning of the home — people who arrived for the beginning of the home secretary's _ people who arrived for the beginning of the home secretary's statement. i people who arrived for the beginning| of the home secretary's statement. i am trusting _ of the home secretary's statement. i am trusting those _ of the home secretary's statement. i am trusting those who _ of the home secretary's statement. i am trusting those who are _ of the home secretary's statement. i am trusting those who are late - of the home secretary's statement. i am trusting those who are late not. am trusting those who are late not to be _ am trusting those who are late not to be standing _ am trusting those who are late not to be standing. jacob _ am trusting those who are late not to be standing. jacob rees - am trusting those who are late not to be standing. jacob rees mogg. i to be standing. jacob rees mogg. does _ to be standing. jacob rees mogg. does my— to be standing. jacob rees mogg. does my right _ to be standing. jacob rees mogg. does my right honourable - to be standing. jacob rees mogg. does my right honourable fred i to be standing. jacob rees mogg. i does my right honourable fred think it would _ does my right honourable fred think it would be _ does my right honourable fred think it would be a good idea to have a cap on— it would be a good idea to have a cap on the — it would be a good idea to have a cap on the number coming in? —— does my right— cap on the number coming in? —— does my right honourable friend. in my right honourable friend. practical my right honourable friend. in practical terms, my right honourable friend. in practicalterms, managing my right honourable friend. in practical terms, managing a cap is difficult, we would want to make sure that we are being as generous as possible to people who contribute to our society and to our economy and recognise that not every single
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individual, the difference between a child that we can't as one person against a cat kick cap or an investor may bring a huge number of jobs, they are not the same and we want to make the difference between the two. , ., ., want to make the difference between thetwo. want to make the difference between the two-_ as - want to make the difference between the two-_ as a i the two. dame diana johnson. as a home secretary — the two. dame diana johnson. as a home secretary will _ the two. dame diana johnson. as a home secretary will appreciate, . the two. dame diana johnson. as a| home secretary will appreciate, the home _ home secretary will appreciate, the home affairs select committee is very keen — home affairs select committee is very keen indeed to scrutinise the policies _ very keen indeed to scrutinise the policies of— very keen indeed to scrutinise the policies of the home office. at our meeting _ policies of the home office. at our meeting last week it proved very difficult — meeting last week it proved very difficult because we couldn't get information about for example the cost of _ information about for example the cost of the — information about for example the cost of the rwanda policy, asylum backlogs — cost of the rwanda policy, asylum backlogs and the number of children who were _ backlogs and the number of children who were still missing from hotels. as unaccompanied asylum seeking children _ as unaccompanied asylum seeking children. can we have an assurance from _ children. can we have an assurance from the _ children. can we have an assurance from the home secretary that when the immigration minister appears before _ the immigration minister appears before the committee next week that we will _ before the committee next week that we will have the full evidence—based and economic impact for the policy announcements that have been made today? _ announcements that have been made today? |_ announcements that have been made toda ? ., ., ., , .,
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today? i have no doubt that the immigration — today? i have no doubt that the immigration minister, - today? i have no doubt that the immigration minister, usually l immigration minister, usually experience in this portfolio, or come fully armed with facts and figures needed. —— usually experienced. figures needed. -- usually experienced.— figures needed. -- usually experienced. figures needed. -- usually exerienced. , ., ., . experienced. pay people at home all, is that not experienced. pay people at home all, is that rrot the — experienced. pay people at home all, is that not the better _ experienced. pay people at home all, is that not the better option? - experienced. pay people at home all, is that not the better option? he - experienced. pay people at home all, is that not the better option? he is i is that not the better option? he is absolute _ is that not the better option? he is absolute right, what we want is a hi-h absolute right, what we want is a high skilled, absolute right, what we want is a high skilled.— high skilled, high productivity, hiuh ware high skilled, high productivity, high wage economy. _ high skilled, high productivity, high wage economy. these - high skilled, high productivity, - high wage economy. these proposals and the work that my right honourable friend the chancellor announced support that. they would do the opposite. tim announced support that. they would do the opposite-— do the opposite. tim farron. these ro osals do the opposite. tim farron. these proposals or _ do the opposite. tim farron. these proposals or some _ do the opposite. tim farron. these proposals or some of _ do the opposite. tim farron. these proposals or some of them - do the opposite. tim farron. these proposals or some of them will - do the opposite. tim farron. these proposals or some of them will be l proposals or some of them will be met with — proposals or some of them will be met with horror in the lake district hospitality— met with horror in the lake district hospitality and tourism industry. 20 million _ hospitality and tourism industry. 20 million people visit our committee every— million people visit our committee every year. — million people visit our committee every year, £3.5 billion industry, and because of the failure of this government to provide sufficient
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affordable homes for local people, and to— affordable homes for local people, and to have stupid visa rules, we now have — and to have stupid visa rules, we now have a — and to have stupid visa rules, we now have a better workforce crisis. two thirds — now have a better workforce crisis. two thirds of our businesses are unable _ two thirds of our businesses are unable to— two thirds of our businesses are unable to meet the demand they have because _ unable to meet the demand they have because of— unable to meet the demand they have because of inadequate numbers of workers _ because of inadequate numbers of workers. has he spoken to anybody working _ workers. has he spoken to anybody working and managing in the hospitality industry or does he not care what — hospitality industry or does he not care what they think? my hospitality industry or does he not care what they think?— care what they think? my right honourable — care what they think? my right honourable friend _ care what they think? my right honourable friend that - care what they think? my right honourable friend that the - honourable friend that the immigration minister met with the lake district tourism board, so specific added to his question, yes, he has spoken to them, and the point is, the truth of the matter is we have analysed the figures, we know which sectors have brought in the most people, the hospitality sector is an incredibly important sector in the uk. catholic employer of local people. that is what we want to see in that sector —— fantastic employer. in that sector -- fantastic employer-— in that sector -- fantastic emlo er. ., ., , employer. the net migration figures are unsustainably _ employer. the net migration figures are unsustainably high, _ are unsustainably high, notwithstanding the large amount of hon- notwithstanding the large amount of hong kong and ukrainian people, so i
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will come _ hong kong and ukrainian people, so i will come most of these proposals. particularly the action on dependents put hogan up seven filter 2020 pertaining to care and health workers _ 2020 pertaining to care and health workers. we have heard about kelp recruiting _ workers. we have heard about kelp recruiting to homes that don't exist. — recruiting to homes that don't exist. and _ recruiting to homes that don't exist, and dependings with no connection to those already visas being _ connection to those already visas being put— connection to those already visas being put together by people traffickers. so how are measures going _ traffickers. so how are measures going to — traffickers. so how are measures going to be taken to make sure that these _ going to be taken to make sure that these are _ going to be taken to make sure that these are enforced and in these abuses— these are enforced and in these abuses do— these are enforced and in these abuses do not continue to happen? we are putting plans forward we support our economy support our health sector, support the british people and do so in a way which is
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clear, transparent, predictable and fair. . ., , fair. can the home secretary tell us which business _ fair. can the home secretary tell us which business groups _ fair. can the home secretary tell us which business groups or _ fair. can the home secretary tell us which business groups or trade - which business groups or trade associations were developing these proposals _ associations were developing these proposals and support them because they are _ proposals and support them because they are concerned that i've heard today is _ they are concerned that i've heard today is that our michael —— national— today is that our michael —— national economic interest is once again— national economic interest is once again in— national economic interest is once again in the — national economic interest is once again in the hands of tory head—bangers. we again in the hands of tory head-bangers.— again in the hands of tory head-bangers. again in the hands of tory head-banners. . ., ., head-bangers. we have and continue to work extensively _ head-bangers. we have and continue to work extensively with _ head-bangers. we have and continue to work extensively with business - head-bangers. we have and continue to work extensively with business to l to work extensively with business to make sure that their needs, their needs for employees are supported, to support our economy, but also to do that in a way that does not, that does not undermine communities, does not depress wages in that works in support of the high school, high wage economy that we aspire to and he clearly does not. the
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