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some cannot because there's not enough transport to move them. many are well aware that they are moving to a place with no water, no shelter. this is part of israel's effort to safeguard the civilian population, who we don't want to see caught up in the crossfire between the idf, the israel defense forces, and the hamas terrorists. and so we're urging them to leave areas of expected combat. translation: we were sleeping l safely, minding our own business. suddenly a bomb fell on us, and the whole building was destroyed. my brother was torn into pieces, and so was his wife. _ my daughter was killed, - and his daughters were killed, including his littlest. we can't find my mum and my niece. this ominous silence has led 136 families to despair. we understand the escalation of the war due to the breach of the cease—fire by hamas. we request a meeting with the war cabinet to receive updates
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on the fate of our family members now, now! all hostages on both sides, yes. because there are 8000 palestinian hostages in israel, and the whole population of gaza today, 2.3 million people, are taken hostages by israeli bombardment. the israeli military has expanded its ground operation into "all areas" of gaza. the hamas—run health ministry says the death toll is now nearing 16,000. that is fuelling tensions across the region. we have a report tonight from our international editorjeremy bowen, who's been to a palestinian village in the occupied west bank. we will get the thoughts of un peacekeepers in lebanon, who are observing heavy exchanges of fire along the line, between israel and hezbollah. and how will the white house respond to the threat from houthi
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rebels in the red sea? joining us tonight, retired marine colonel brenday kearney. good evening. israel says it has all but completed its military objectives in the north of gaza and is proceeding "aggresively" with ground operations in the south. the idf has again urged people to evacuate from areas they're targeting. around 170,000 people in khan younis have been warned to leave for their safety, but a spokesman for the un children's charity, unicef, says there's nowhere safe for people to go. and just a few hours ago, there were reports by the hamas—run health ministry that 30 people had been killed at two schools where people were sheltering, including children. our diplomatic correspondent paul adams is injerusalem tonight. can we talk about operations on the
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ground first of all, paul? i have seen a variety of maps today. what new information at the idf giving to palestinians on the ground? the? new information at the idf giving to palestinians on the ground? they are basically saying _ palestinians on the ground? they are basically saying that _ palestinians on the ground? they are basically saying that if _ palestinians on the ground? they are basically saying that if you _ palestinians on the ground? they are basically saying that if you are - basically saying that if you are living in an area just to the east and north of khan younis are one of the largest cities in the southern part of the gaza strip, then you need to move west and get out of the way. that map that you are seeing on your screen, that red dotted line is that street which runs throughout the gaza strip from north to south. and that area, that red dotted area, is a stretch of the rotor that the israelis are saying palestinians should not get anywhere near. at the bottom end of that dotted line is of the city of khan younis. the yellow orange line is saying that this is the alternative route that you can take if you want to head to the south. i think what all of this suggests to me is that the israelis are probably going to try to cut
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across the north of khan younis towards the sea, to cut the southern part of the gaza strip off from the rest. we saw a similar tactic further north when they cut off gaza city from the rest of the gaza strip. so that seems to be the general direction of israeli military effort at the moment. and that will be a prelude to a battle that will be a prelude to a battle that will be a prelude to a battle that will probably concentrate on khan younis for the coming weeks. and obviously, that is leading to enormous concern and fear among people there. they are getting these new instructions, they are more detailed than they were up in gaza city, you can look at a map and see block by block which one is the israelis are talking about on any given day. but for people, some of whom have had to move several times already, this is exhausting and it is still confusing. find already, this is exhausting and it is still confusing.— already, this is exhausting and it is still confusing. and is there an aid operation _ is still confusing. and is there an aid operation of _ is still confusing. and is there an aid operation of any _ is still confusing. and is there an
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aid operation of any description i is still confusing. and is there an | aid operation of any description in the safe zones that they are directing people to? because they previously talked about this area, alma lassie, to the west of high newness. now they are saying there are other areas. are there safe areas away from the bombing rates that they are mounting? it is areas away from the bombing rates that they are mounting?— that they are mounting? it is a little early _ that they are mounting? it is a little early to _ that they are mounting? it is a little early to know _ that they are mounting? it is a little early to know that. - that they are mounting? it is a i little early to know that. certainly that specific area, i think that idea is gone now. it never worked, no one was heading in that direction. the israelis pretty much admitted that it didn't work, they still describe it as a safe area. what they are saying now is that you should go to areas, un schools, hospitals, where you are likely to be more safe. they are saying that these are well known... i am not sure if everyone knows what constitutes a safe building to sheltering nowadays, because even outside of the designated target areas there are still air strikes which are killing a lot of people.
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and we don't quite know whether aid is going to be able to reach what could be a myriad of locations. some aid is certainly getting in, 100 also tricks yesterday. i am not quite sure what the figure is today. but it is not enough, it needs to be on an infinitely bigger scale. all of the agencies are that, and i think everyone is bracing themselves for a very difficult few weeks, if not months. for a very difficult few weeks, if not months— for a very difficult few weeks, if not months. equally difficult for the families _ not months. equally difficult for the families of— not months. equally difficult for the families of the _ not months. equally difficult for the families of the hostages - not months. equally difficult for the families of the hostages in l not months. equally difficult for. the families of the hostages in this scenario, paul. wejust heard from some of them in our headlines full stop they want more information, particularly given that their relatives are most likely to be in the south, in the tunnels there. i understand that there is no negotiation ongoing at the moment, and hamas now saying that there will be no negotiation until there is a permanent ceasefire. what are these releasing to that? that permanent ceasefire. what are these releasing to that?— releasing to that? that is definitely _ releasing to that? that is definitely a _ releasing to that? that is definitely a nonstarter. i definitely a nonstarter. essentially, you do have a situation
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in which all of the negotiations have broken down. the israelis are saying that only extra military pressure got us any hostages out at all in the past that lasted until last friday. hamas are trying to go for a maximalist position saying that only a complete end to hostilities will see any more hostages released. we are down now, primarily, to hostages who are soldiers. male and female soldiers. there are still some civilians among the hostages being held under the israelis are extremely angry at what they saw as a breach of the agreement by hamas. but for the families involved who got used to the spectacle of people coming out night after night after night, they really wanted to see this continue, they really hoped that we would see further categories of hostages being released. i should further categories of hostages being released. ishould mention further categories of hostages being released. i should mention by the way that of course there are still
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plenty of older men, some very elderly men, who are still being held. and the families really want to see a process resumed where some of those people could come out next. paul, for the moment, thank you very much for that. the white house is going to great lengths, publicly and privately, to urge the israeli forces to take greater care in protecting palestinian civilians. there have been some strong words this weekend from the vice president kamala harris and the us defense secretary lloyd austin, who said it was a strategic imperative for the idf to do better. there's also been criticism of the increasing settler violence on palestinians living in the occupied west bank. over 250 palestinians have been killed there since october the 7th. the settler communities claim they are protecting themselves in land that religiousjews believe was given to them by god. our international editor jeremy bowen has been to an area south of hebron in the west bank where an entire village has been destroyed. palestinian farmers are using the donkey because of their neighbours — aggressive jewish settlers,
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who they say will steal or break their tractor if they use it. arabs and jews started fighting over every grain of soil in the land both sides believe should be theirs more than a century ago. in the west bank, it still comes down to that, in every rocky field. in susiya, in the south hebron hills, palestinians live under constant pressure from jewish settlers. but it's been much worse since the hamas attacks on the 7th of october. the settlers were watching. one of their leaders cancelled an interview with us at short notice. palestinians fear another 19118, when their society was destroyed by israel's independence, which arabs call the catastrophe, the nakba. translation: we have been passing| through one nakba to another through the palestinian occupation years. we cannot handle another one. we don't have any place to go. this is our land, this is our property.
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we need to stand here, here in this land. soldiers came to check what we were doing. one told an israeli colleague that he was a traitor for visiting palestinians. they filmed us, but took much less interest in what had happened a few miles down the road. the village of khirbet zanutah had been bulldozed, activists said, last night. zanutah�*s 200 palestinians left four weeks ago, after a barrage of threats from armed jewish settlers. the school was destroyed — britain helped fund it. the project was called supporting palestinians at risk of forcible transfer. activists said settlers did it to make sure the palestinians would never come back. someone drewjewish stars of david. we went there with a former israeli special forces soldier who now campaigns against the occupation. they are demolishing
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palestinian villages, beating up palestinian farmers, stealing their olives. they are trying to open a third front, an east front, against the palestinians. why? the palestinian west bank. why? because they want this without any palestinians, they want the land without any palestinians. palestinians see all this, and the rest of the settler violence on the west bank, as confirmation of their worst fears, that there are powerful elements inside israel, in the government as well as the settler movement, who want them out, and who are using the enormous crisis surrounding the gaza war as an opportunity to further their agenda. zanutah�*s palestinians have petitioned israel's supreme court and hope to return. it is going to be much harder now. jeremy bowen, bbc news, on the west bank. another area where tensions are high is further to the north on the border between israel and lebanon.
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the cross—border exchanges between hezbollah and israel resumed just hours after the week—long truce came to an end. these pictures from today show smoke rising around various towns and villages in southern lebanon as israeli forces responded. positioned not far from that border is the un observer force known as unifil. their mandate was first agreed by the security council in 1978 to oversee israel's withdrawal from southern lebanon, which reminds us how long this conflict has been bubbling. the current spokesman for unifil is andrea tenenti. thank you very much for being with us. could you tell me what you have heard today of the action across that border and what your men are seeing? that border and what your men are seeinu ? . , that border and what your men are seeina? . , , , . ., seeing? that is pretty much what we have seen for— seeing? that is pretty much what we have seen for the _ seeing? that is pretty much what we have seen for the last _ seeing? that is pretty much what we have seen for the last two _ seeing? that is pretty much what we have seen for the last two months. l have seen for the last two months. daily exchanges of fire along the blue line. this is not the first day
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and it has been going on for the last two months. that is with very concerning and tense situations. very much localised, because most of this shelling is around and very close to the blue line, four or five kilometres from the line of withdrawal of the troops. so far, the conflict has not extended to other areas of the country. maybe ou could other areas of the country. maybe you could tell— other areas of the country. maybe you could tell us, _ other areas of the country. maybe you could tell us, i _ other areas of the country. maybe you could tell us, i am _ other areas of the country. maybe you could tell us, i am always - you could tell us, i am always intrigued where your personnel are and what communication is between the two sides, what role they play in all of this.— in all of this. yes, we are located very much _ in all of this. yes, we are located very much along _ in all of this. yes, we are located very much along the _ in all of this. yes, we are located very much along the blue - in all of this. yes, we are located very much along the blue line. i in all of this. yes, we are located i very much along the blue line. most of our bases, around 50 of them, we have 10,500 troops from 47 different countries deployed along the blue line, and despite the shelling, we
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are still very much operational, but the important role of the mission at the important role of the mission at the moment is to keep this channel of communication with the two sides. the two countries are still at war and have no communications, so the head of unifil is keeping this communication ongoing, exchanging messages from the parties and trying to de—escalate the tension and prevent very dangerous misunderstandings. prevent very dangerous misunderstandinas. , , , misunderstandings. yes, because the concern always _ misunderstandings. yes, because the concern always is _ misunderstandings. yes, because the concern always is that _ misunderstandings. yes, because the concern always is that there - misunderstandings. yes, because the concern always is that there will - misunderstandings. yes, because the concern always is that there will be i concern always is that there will be a miscalculation. how real is that threat, do you think, today that a miscalculation on either side could trigger a much wider conflict? realistically, after so many weeks of conflict and large numbers of shelling every day, the potential for a wider conflict is increasing on a daily basis. also, the
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potential for mistakes or miscalculations is around the corner. although very much localised, it is also important to emphasise that both sides are using unifil to exchange messages and it means that somehow there is not a real appetite for a wider conflict, but again, as you said, a miscalculation can happen at any time. after two months, of course, the potential for a fiscal commission is increasing. the americans _ commission is increasing. the americans arrived _ commission is increasing. the americans arrived in jerusalem americans arrived injerusalem today. the vice president began the talks and the work on post—war gaza, and who will run it and what that might look like. ijust wondered might look like. i just wondered from might look like. ijust wondered from your perspective, whether you enforce like unifil could ever fulfil a role in gaza to keep the peace between the suicides? trio. peace between the suicides? no, unifil is a _ peace between the suicides? no, unifil is a mission _ peace between the suicides? fin, unifil is a mission that has been designed for the south of lebanon. any peacekeeping mission is different and of course you need the commitment of governments. you have
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to have the request from the israeli government for any peacekeeping missions and the deployment of troops, that means also the authority isolation and there will from member states. as i said, every peacekeeping mission is different and it needs to be decided by the security council, by the five permanent members, by member states. it is something that, as i said, unifil is very much designed for the south of lebanon and any other mission would be, if there is another mission, anywhere else it should be decided by the security council. ., ., ., ,, , ., council. food for thought. thank you for cominu council. food for thought. thank you for coming in — council. food for thought. thank you for coming in the _ council. food for thought. thank you for coming in the programme. i council. food for thought. thank you | for coming in the programme. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. british lawyers could be stationed in rwandan courts as part of a treaty to allow asylum—seekers to be sent there. last month, the uk supreme court ruled the plans unlawful, and downing street said it
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would publish a treaty with kigali to address the court's concerns about the rwandan justice system. the prime minister says the bbc should be "realistic�* about the price of the tv licence during high inflation. the fee, which is the main source of funding for the bbc, has been frozen for the past two years at £159, but is due to rise in april in line with inflation. hopes that the 2026 commonwealth games could be held in australia have been set back with the gold coast withdrawing its bid to host the event. organisers have said they may have to postpone or even cancel the games because federal and state governments have repeatedly ruled out supporting them. you are live with bbc news. the tiny
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south american nation of guiana says that venice whaler is on the wrong side of history and is risking an armed conflict over a long contested slave of their rainforest. over the weekend, venice whaler held a referendum on its claim to an area with massive oil deposits. the people diverted to establish a new state. the international court of justice has ordered venice well or not to risk anything that would change the current situation. there are fears that the president has taken the first steps towards a takeover, even though this referendum was non—binding and the turnout was low. joining us to talk more about this is our south america corresponded. good to see you. can we talk about the oil, first of all? what was found, who stakes a claim to it and what role is played in this? ~ ., , ._ , to it and what role is played in this? ~ ., , , , this? well, the role it plays is that that is — this? well, the role it plays is that that is why _ this? well, the role it plays is that that is why there - this? well, the role it plays is that that is why there is i this? well, the role it plays is that that is why there is so i this? well, the role it plays is i that that is why there is so much interest in this area. it is about two thirds of guiana, about a fifth
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of the population. this is a dispute that has gone on for more than a century. effectively it is said that it used to be under the ownership of the spanish colonial period but it was in 1899 when an arbitration court said that actually it belonged to british guiana at the time and that was at a time when the british ruled over. that has been the conflict. there have been lots of attempt to come to an agreement, nothing was done, it wasn't exactly controversial until 2015 when huge deposits were found. offshore as well. this has been something that has renewed interest certainly from venezuela. ., . , has renewed interest certainly from venezuela. ., ., , ., venezuela. formally, as you say, a british colony. _ venezuela. formally, as you say, a british colony. i _ venezuela. formally, as you say, a british colony. ithink— venezuela. formally, as you say, a british colony. i think it _ venezuela. formally, as you say, a british colony. i think it is - venezuela. formally, as you say, a british colony. i think it is one i venezuela. formally, as you say, a british colony. i think it is one of. british colony. i think it is one of the only english—speaking countries in south america. there are people
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on social media drawing comparisons with the falkland islands because of the british history there, is it comparable?— the british history there, is it comparable? the british history there, is it comarable? ~ ~ , , ., comparable? well, i think this is a art of comparable? well, i think this is a part of the — comparable? well, i think this is a part of the world _ comparable? well, i think this is a part of the world that _ comparable? well, i think this is a part of the world that that - comparable? well, i think this is a part of the world that that was i comparable? well, i think this is a | part of the world that that was kind of chopped up by different colonies and i think that is something that is very controversial here. certainly if you spoke to the people from venezuela, they would argue that it would be part of their territory. we saw the results, 90% of people from venezuela agreed with the referendum that it should be part of venezuela's territory. you need to try to understand that those figures aren't necessarily trustworthy. it was said that it was a victory for the country, turnout was low despite what the administration argued. certainly the no campaign wasn't very strong. there is really a real lethargy in venezuela and a lot of critics saw this as a posturing trying to foment
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national sentiment ahead of 2024 presidential elections. there is a lot of cynicism around why there has been this referendum. the issue of the falklands, there is no argument in most of latin america that they are argentinas, and that is something that is very controversial and still goes on across the region, notjust argentina. this is something that a lot of people compare it to, yes. we something that a lot of people compare it to, yes. we believe that there. compare it to, yes. we believe that there- thank _ compare it to, yes. we believe that there. thank you _ compare it to, yes. we believe that there. thank you very _ compare it to, yes. we believe that there. thank you very much - compare it to, yes. we believe that| there. thank you very much indeed. we will talk a little bit more about venezuela later in the programme. it is an interesting story, the history involved in that. let's return to tensions in the middle east for a short while. there has been quite a lot of activity in the red sea. free commercial vessels were struck on sunday by drones.
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us central command said one of its warships, the uss carney, shot down three drones that launched from houthi—controlled areas and attended to vessels in distress. we can go live now to san francisco, where we can speak to brendan kearney, a retired colonel with the us marine corps. thank you for being with us, brendan. what options do you think are on the table here because obviously the houthi is our iranian—backed and it is not the first sort of strikes that we have seenin first sort of strikes that we have seen in recent weeks, so how seriously do you think the pentagon will be taking this? i seriously do you think the pentagon will be taking this?— will be taking this? i think the pentauon will be taking this? i think the pentagon from _ will be taking this? i think the pentagon from the _ will be taking this? i think the pentagon from the very i will be taking this? i think the i pentagon from the very beginning will be taking this? i think the - pentagon from the very beginning has been taking it very seriously. the problem has been, quite honestly, that our response has been in the form of pinpricks. we bomb an ammunition dump out in the middle of the syrian desert to try to send a message to the iranians, and i think the iranians are laughing at us, we do some damage in yemen. and all we
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do some damage in yemen. and all we do there is blow up some sand dunes. it has been completely ineffective so far. 50 it has been completely ineffective so far. . it has been completely ineffective so far, ., ., it has been completely ineffective so far. ., ., , , so far. so what are you suggesting, brendan? so far. so what are you suggesting, itrendan? are _ so far. so what are you suggesting, brendan? are you _ so far. so what are you suggesting, brendan? are you suggesting i so far. so what are you suggesting, brendan? are you suggesting that. brendan? are you suggesting that there needs to be a much more deliberate campaign, maybe even taking it to iran?— taking it to iran? absolutely. i firmly believe _ taking it to iran? absolutely. i firmly believe that _ taking it to iran? absolutely. i firmly believe that and - taking it to iran? absolutely. i firmly believe that and i i taking it to iran? absolutely. i firmly believe that and i am i taking it to iran? absolutely. i l firmly believe that and i am not taking it to iran? absolutely. i i firmly believe that and i am not one for expansion of hostilities unnecessarily. the red sea, it is akin to the straits of malacca in terms of the influence that it has geo— strategically for virtually the whole world as it comes to trade. it is one of those places that, years ago when i was on active duty, we looked at as a quote unquote go to war place. that is where somebody predicts the navigation through the choke points. that is where you get very serious. i am afraid that the united states has not shown a
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serious response and that is what has to be conveyed to the iranians. the risk would always be, surely brendan, and that is why they have these proxies, that as she soon as you focus on the movement of weapons from iran they will unleash the proxies. you open pandora's box and surely the white house will be cognizant of that. i surely the white house will be cognizant of that.— cognizant of that. i think the hootie is _ cognizant of that. i think the hootie is have _ cognizant of that. i think the hootie is have already i cognizant of that. i think the hootie is have already been | hootie is have already been unleashed. they have been causing mischief in that part of the world for years now. i am not sure, the other iranian proxies, in terms of what is going on in gaza and south lebanon, that mischief is ongoing too. it is a question of whether we can convey a serious message to the iranians to cease and desist. it is bad enough what is going on in gaza, truly a tragedy. but if they want to expand the war into the red sea or
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other places around the middle east, then we have got to convey to them that we are serious. and the only way that you are going to convey that to them is by force. and if that to them is by force. and if that means a massive strike into iran, so be it. that means a massive strike into iran. so be it-— iran, so be it. kernel, really interesting. _ iran, so be it. kernel, really interesting. lots _ iran, so be it. kernel, really interesting. lots of - iran, so be it. kernel, really interesting. lots of people | iran, so be it. kernel, really i interesting. lots of people will share that view that it is a no—go area, the red sea, because of the amount of traffic running through that area. we will talk plenty more about that through the course of the programme. certainly tensions are high in lebanon and the red sea area as well. we will take a short break. on the other side of the breakable focus on matters in dubai and the copper 28 summit. lots to about. we will get into that on the other side of the break. stay with us. hello again. while we saw a bit of wintriness on monday across parts of scotland, northern england, mainly over higher ground, for many, actually, we saw some rain falling. that rain was really quite heavy
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for parts of central southern areas of england throughout monday. but as we go through into tuesday, this area of low pressure will continue to move away to the south—east. it'll stay pretty cloudy. still some wintriness over the higher ground of northern england, perhaps north wales as well. but with clear skies across scotland and northern ireland, here, a frost. temperatures —4, —5 degrees into tuesday. for england and wales, frost—free. and that's because we've got lots of clouds, still some outbreaks of rain at times. gradually, though, that'll tend to clear away to the south—east and might see a bit of brightness eventually in north—western areas. plenty of blue skies and sunshine, though, across scotland and northern ireland throughout the day, with maximum temperatures here 2 or 3 celsius, maybe about 7 to 8 or 9 degrees for england and wales. now, as we go through tuesday nights, the cloud will continue to clear away from the south—east, and then with clear skies, it's still going to turn really quite cold, actually. a widespread frost expected, and we could see temperatures as low as —11, —12 degrees over
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the snowfields of northern scotland. but then as we go through wednesday, after a bright start to the day, you notice we've got this weather system in the west and that contains milder air. but it's going to be quite slow—moving, that, on wednesday, so while eventually the cloud increases across northern ireland, southern and western areas, with some patchy rain eventually arriving late in the day, apart from some patches of mist and fog in central, southern areas, there'll be plenty of dry, plenty of sunny weather around during wednesday, but it will feel fairly chilly. temperatures only about 2—4 or 5 celsius. but look at that — 11 degrees in plymouth, a sign of the milder air, which will eventually start to move its way in during wednesday as this weather front moves through. now, as it hits colder air, for a time, there could be some snow over the higher ground of scotland and northern england. but throughout thursday, really, this milder air, the oranges here really move north—eastward across all parts of the uk. so all of us will eventually see the temperatures rise really from wednesday onward.
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but with that, turning quite wet and windy at times as well. bye— bye.
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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. palestinian sources report that at least 30 people have been killed and over 100 injured after israeli air strikes hit two
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schools in gaza city earlier today. plenty more to come over the next 25 minutes or so, but first, let's check on the sport with two. hi, kristen, thank you. the first managerial dismissal of the season. they are set to stack paul higginbotham within the next 24 hours. united currently sit bottom of the league. they lost 5—0 at relegation rivals burnley on saturday. the next game is against liverpool on wednesday. ahead of the crucial nation league matches on tuesday, lucy bronze criticise people will question the integrity
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of their fixture against scotland.

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