story, the fallout regarding resignation of robertjenrick. we are also going we are going to start with our top story. robertjenrick quit saying a new law about asylum seekers to temper macro does not go far enough. suella braverman criticised the policy saying the new bill does not work and will not stop the boats. she said she hoped mr singh at leads the conservatives into the next election. [30

singh at leads the conservatives into the next election.— singh at leads the conservatives into the next election. do you, does our -a into the next election. do you, does your party have _ into the next election. do you, does your party have a — into the next election. do you, does your party have a death _ into the next election. do you, does your party have a death wish? - into the next election. do you, does your party have a death wish? not l into the next election. do you, does| your party have a death wish? not at all. we your party have a death wish? not at all- we are — your party have a death wish? not at all. we are fighting _ your party have a death wish? not at all. we are fighting to _ your party have a death wish? not at all. we are fighting to stop _ your party have a death wish? not at all. we are fighting to stop the - all. we are fighting to stop the boats— all. we are fighting to stop the boats can _ all. we are fighting to stop the boats can stabilise the economy and deliver_ boats can stabilise the economy and deliver for— boats can stabilise the economy and deliver for the british people. the prime _ deliver for the british people. the prime minister talks about death. that is_ prime minister talks about death. that is why i asked you. we prime minister talks about death. that is why i asked you.— prime minister talks about death. that is why i asked you. we do not have a death _ that is why i asked you. we do not have a death wish, _ that is why i asked you. we do not have a death wish, that _ that is why i asked you. we do not have a death wish, that is - that is why i asked you. we do not have a death wish, that is why - that is why i asked you. we do not have a death wish, that is why we | have a death wish, that is why we need to stop the boats. the facts do not live. we need to deliver on a key promise. that is how we will win the next general election. the prime minister made the promise to stop the boats at the beginning of the year. we need to deliver on that pledge. the time for talk, the time force laden and promises is over. we need to show delivery and that is what this debate is about right now. lets turn to the problem with delivery. why do you say a policy

that goes much further than any government has gone before, to exclude the courts, domestic and international from frustrating the policy of sending migrants abroad, why do you say that is not enough? there are elements that should be welcomed in this new bill the prime minister has presented. taken as a whole, and looking at the reality of the challenges that are involved in detaining people, removing people and getting them to rwanda, it is a very litigious field and there are lots of legal frameworks that apply, the reality and sorry truth is it will not work and it will not stop the boats, that is my opinion having read it in the last 12, 2a hours. the former supreme courtjustice the former supreme court justice criticised the former supreme courtjustice criticised the government previously on the today programme. he said yesterday, i think she is wrong. the

court will be prevented from getting what they call interim relief, exceptin what they call interim relief, except in a very narrow range of cases. what he is saying is under these changes people will be able to be sent to rwanda and the courts will not be able to stop their flights. why do you think you are right and he is wrong? iaruiith flights. why do you think you are right and he is wrong? with respect, i disarree. right and he is wrong? with respect, i disagree- if— right and he is wrong? with respect, i disagree. if you _ right and he is wrong? with respect, i disagree. if you look _ right and he is wrong? with respect, i disagree. if you look at _ right and he is wrong? with respect, i disagree. if you look at the - i disagree. if you look at the wording of the bill, there are clear sections allowing a whole raft of individual claims to be made by people we may seek to move to rwanda. they will be able to challenge the decisions made by the secretary of state. those challenges could take months and potentially sometimes years. they will not stop our removal of people to rwanda. he

is a former supreme courtjustice. you would think he would understand the law. ~ , ,., , ., you would think he would understand the law. , , ., , the law. absolutely. i have been workin: the law. absolutely. i have been working on _ the law. absolutely. i have been working on this _ the law. absolutely. i have been working on this matter- the law. absolutely. i have been working on this matter to - the law. absolutely. i have been| working on this matter to myself the law. absolutely. i have been - working on this matter to myself for several years. section four of the bill, there are broad clauses which do allow individual claims to be made. that is the reality. we can't tweak at this problem. we can't 2/2 measures. we have to totally exclude international law, refugee convention, other broader avenues of legal challenge. the reality is we have seen regrettably injune 2022, people will bring claims and bring challenges through the courts and those challenges will operate to block flights to rwanda. that is how this bill and sections of this bill will operate in reality. interesting ou use will operate in reality. interesting you use the _ will operate in reality. interesting you use the word _ will operate in reality. interesting you use the word reality. -

will operate in reality. interesting you use the word reality. a - will operate in reality. interesting i you use the word reality. a downing street spokesman has said you are denying reality. rwandan government ministers had said they were not be party to an agreement that is not in line with international law. what you are recommending, would it be whipped up by the rwandan government?— whipped up by the rwandan rovernment? ., ., ., government? now. on the one hand, the bill the prime _ government? now. on the one hand, the bill the prime minister _ government? now. on the one hand, the bill the prime minister himself. the bill the prime minister himself has put forward makes clear that they are applying elements of international law. the secretary of state cannot confirm the bill applies with international law. on that basis they would be a problem on... given the state made by downing street. secondly, i would also say measures i am proposing do not breach international law. if i can just finish the point it is

quite important. the measures i propose do not breach international law. there is a perfectly legitimate basis in international law to justify the measures i put forward. are you saying they are lying when they say the rwandan government would not go ahead on the basis you are recommending? i am would not go ahead on the basis you are recommending?— would not go ahead on the basis you are recommending? i am saying there is an intellectual _ are recommending? i am saying there is an intellectual incoherence. - are recommending? i am saying there is an intellectual incoherence. are - is an intellectual incoherence. are the [inn is an intellectual incoherence. are they lying when they say they know what the rwandan government think and what the government would do? do you know differently? i am and what the government would do? do you know differently?— you know differently? i am saying that is an incoherence. _ you know differently? i am saying that is an incoherence. are - you know differently? i am saying that is an incoherence. are they l that is an incoherence. are they l in: ? that is an incoherence. are they l inc? i that is an incoherence. are they lying? i don't — that is an incoherence. are they lying? i don't know. _ that is an incoherence. are they lying? i don't know. i— that is an incoherence. are they lying? i don't know. i have - that is an incoherence. are they lying? i don't know. i have a - that is an incoherence. are they lying? i don't know. i have a lotj that is an incoherence. are they i lying? i don't know. i have a lot of respect for the rwandan government. i have been working with them myself. these are statements made by other people. the foreign minister

says, it has always been important to both rwanda and the uk the rule of law partnership meets the highest standards of international law. that means your scheme denies reality. i ask you again, are you saying the prime minister is misrepresenting what the rwandan government thinks? i disagree with the prime minister. the bill on the table itself makes clear the secretary of state cannot confirm it complies with international law. on that basis the statement from the rwandan government means it does not support the bill on the table. the proposals i have put forward do not breach international law. we i have put forward do not breach international law.— international law. we have both mentioned _ international law. we have both mentioned the _ international law. we have both mentioned the prime _ international law. we have both mentioned the prime minister. | international law. we have both - mentioned the prime minister. when you are sat by him you wrote an excoriating letter about him. you said he was either incapable of keeping his promises are never

intended to? what is your conclusion now? is he incapable are never intending on doing it? the prime minister has _ intending on doing it? the prime minister has a _ intending on doing it? the prime minister has a difficult _ intending on doing it? the prime minister has a difficult job. - intending on doing it? the primej minister has a difficult job. there minister has a difficultjob. there are lots of conflicting factors and issues to weigh up on any decision. you said he was either incapable of keeping his promises or he never intended to. which is it?- intended to. which is it? when i took u- intended to. which is it? when i took up the _ intended to. which is it? when i took up the role _ intended to. which is it? when i took up the role of _ intended to. which is it? when i took up the role of home - took up the role of home secretary, i put forward to him a plan to stop the boats, a plan i believed based on my experience of trying to fix this problem with previous prime ministers for several years that would work. you gave me firm assurances, personal, and after extensive discussion that that plan was accepted and could deliver that plan. ultimately, he blocked that plan. ultimately, he blocked that lan. ~ ., , ., , ., plan. ultimately, he blocked that plan. where does it leave you now? i ve much plan. where does it leave you now? i very much hope _ plan. where does it leave you now? i very much hope that _ plan. where does it leave you now? i very much hope that the _ plan. where does it leave you now? i very much hope that the prime - very much hope that the prime minister changes course. i very much

hope he takes on board the kind of observations that people are making about the content of this bill right now and takes them on board. there is still time to change this bill. it has just been introduced. it will go through parliament and to scrutiny. there is time to change course and i would encourage him to develop a receptive attitude. if he develop a receptive attitude. if he does not? ultimately, _ develop a receptive attitude. if he does not? ultimately, this - develop a receptive attitude. if he does not? ultimately, this bill - develop a receptive attitude. if he | does not? ultimately, this bill will fail. we does not? ultimately, this bill will fail- we have _ does not? ultimately, this bill will fail. we have put _ does not? ultimately, this bill will fail. we have put two _ does not? ultimately, this bill will fail. we have put two acts - does not? ultimately, this bill will fail. we have put two acts of- fail. we have put two acts of parliament through already. we have done huge amounts of work to stop this problem. we have not succeeded in stopping the boats. time is running out. we cannot afford to put forward yet another bill that is destined to fail. if it forward yet another bill that is destined to fail.— destined to fail. if it fails, he would have _ destined to fail. if it fails, he would have to _ destined to fail. if it fails, he would have to go, _ destined to fail. if it fails, he would have to go, wouldn't l destined to fail. if it fails, he i would have to go, wouldn't he? destined to fail. if it fails, he - would have to go, wouldn't he? i want the prime minister to succeed in delivering on his pledge to stop the boats. ., ., ., , ..

the boats. you want him to succeed? us act, the boats. you want him to succeed? us act, you — the boats. you want him to succeed? us act, you did _ the boats. you want him to succeed? us act, you did not _ the boats. you want him to succeed? us act, you did not resign. _ the boats. you want him to succeed? us act, you did not resign. you - us act, you did not resign. you described him as uncertain, weak and lacking in the qualities needed. do you really expect people to believe you really expect people to believe you want rishi sunak to succeed rather than what everyone believes great you want to bring him down and take over hisjob? lode great you want to bring him down and take over his job?— take over his job? we are all conservatives. _ take over his job? we are all conservatives. i— take over his job? we are all conservatives. i want - take over his job? we are all conservatives. i want this . take over his job? we are all. conservatives. i want this prime minister to fulfil his promise to stop the boats. he said he would do whatever it takes. ililul’iilii stop the boats. he said he would do whatever it takes.— whatever it takes. will he lead you into the next _ whatever it takes. will he lead you into the next election? _ whatever it takes. will he lead you into the next election? it - whatever it takes. will he lead you into the next election? it is - whatever it takes. will he lead you into the next election? it is his - into the next election? it is his choice as _ into the next election? it is his choice as to — into the next election? it is his choice as to what _ into the next election? it is his choice as to what he _ into the next election? it is his choice as to what he does. - into the next election? it is his choice as to what he does. i i into the next election? it is his| choice as to what he does. i am urging him to take up the advice and feedback that colleagues, with well—intentioned, want us all to win so he can fulfil the promise made to the british people. you so he can fulfil the promise made to the british people.— the british people. you said that. will he lead _ the british people. you said that. will he lead the _ the british people. you said that. will he lead the conservatives - the british people. you said that. | will he lead the conservatives into the next general election? i will he lead the conservatives into the next general election?- will he lead the conservatives into the next general election? i hope he does. i

the next general election? i hope he does- i want — the next general election? i hope he does. i want us _ the next general election? i hope he does. i want us to _ the next general election? i hope he does. i want us to continue - the next general election? i hope he does. i want us to continue with - the next general election? i hope he does. i want us to continue with a i does. i want us to continue with a party that succeeds on its pledges. that is conditional. he can only lead you into the next general election if he does what you want and demand. the election if he does what you want and demand-— and demand. the bill has been presented- _ and demand. the bill has been presented. there _ and demand. the bill has been presented. there will - and demand. the bill has been presented. there will be - and demand. the bill has been presented. there will be live i presented. there will be live discussion, scrutiny and debate about what it does and does not do. there is a team of lawyers in the star chamber, independent lawyers, he will be scrutinising it, providing important conclusions. we have to read those conclusions carefully. if have to read those conclusions carefull . ., , �* . ., carefully. if it doesn't change, should he _ carefully. if it doesn't change, should he remain _ carefully. if it doesn't change, should he remain leader- carefully. if it doesn't change, should he remain leader of. carefully. if it doesn't change, i should he remain leader of your party? ihla should he remain leader of your -a ? ., ., , should he remain leader of your .a ? ., ., , ., ~' should he remain leader of your party? no one is talking about chanauin party? no one is talking about changing leader. _ party? no one is talking about changing leader. that - party? no one is talking about changing leader. that is - party? no one is talking about - changing leader. that is nonsense. you know they _ changing leader. that is nonsense. you know they are _ changing leader. that is nonsense. you know they are and _ changing leader. that is nonsense. you know they are and i _ changing leader. that is nonsense. you know they are and i suggest i changing leader. that is nonsense. i you know they are and i suggest you you have had meetings to discuss it as well. i will ask again, if he does not do what you demand, will you plot against him as leader of

the conservative party? i you plot against him as leader of the conservative party?- the conservative party? i want a prime minister _ the conservative party? i want a prime minister to _ the conservative party? i want a prime minister to succeed - the conservative party? i want a prime minister to succeed in - prime minister to succeed in stopping the boats. he said he would do whatever it takes. there is a way to succeed in fulfilling that promise. if he does as prime minister, he will be able to lead us into the next election, telling people we succeeded on his very important pledge and that is what i want. ~ , ., ., ., ., ., ., want. when you are on the radio and television great _ want. when you are on the radio and television great you _ want. when you are on the radio and television great you talk _ want. when you are on the radio and television great you talk about - television great you talk about substance like you tour quite reasonably. when i ask you questions about tough language make you laugh at me as if i am the one talking about the conservative death wish. you condemned the leader of your party as uncertain, weak and lacking in leadership. you said he had no intention of keeping his promises. you have attacked lawyers, judges, civil servants, the metropolitan police, people worried about deaths in gaza. you attacked the homeless and migrants as part of being an invasion. isn't the truth you are a

headline grabber who does it by spreading poison glare even within your own party? the spreading poison glare even within your own party?— spreading poison glare even within your own party? the truth is when i started as home _ your own party? the truth is when i started as home secretary, - your own party? the truth is when i started as home secretary, i - your own party? the truth is when i | started as home secretary, i sought to be honest. honest for the british people. sometimes that is uncomfortable. i am people. sometimes that is uncomfortable. iam not people. sometimes that is uncomfortable. i am not going to shy away from telling people how it is and from plain speaking. if it upsets polite society, i am sorry about that. the point is we need to be honest and clear eyed about the situation right now. we cannot keep failing the british people. we have made promise after promise. we have put forward plan after plan, they have all failed. we have now ran out of time. this is an issue of huge importance to the majority of british people, who desperately want us to fix it. we need to be honest about that. only if we are honest we have a chance to properly fix and resolve this issue. you have a chance to properly fix and resolve this issue.—

resolve this issue. you say about tellin: resolve this issue. you say about telling how _ resolve this issue. you say about telling how it _ resolve this issue. you say about telling how it is. _ resolve this issue. you say about telling how it is. wouldn't - resolve this issue. you say about telling how it is. wouldn't the . telling how it is. wouldn't the honest answer be to say it is always all about you. honest answer be to say it is always all about you-— all about you. no, i wouldn't say that at all- _ all about you. no, i wouldn't say that at all. i— all about you. no, i wouldn't say that at all. i gave _ all about you. no, i wouldn't say that at all. i gave a _ all about you. no, i wouldn't say that at all. i gave a statement i that at all. i gave a statement yesterday when i talked almost exclusively about the policies and what we need to do. that is what i am on the show to talk about. i am very concerned the bill on the table will allow a merry—go—round of legal claims and litigation. the solution to that is a form of ouster clause which excludes claims forjustify ability folsom of the claims to be can get decisions made by the secretary of state to detain and remove and flights of two rwanda as quickly as possible. my remove and flights of two rwanda as quickly as possible.— quickly as possible. my statements have been focusing _ quickly as possible. my statements have been focusing on _ quickly as possible. my statements have been focusing on policy. - quickly as possible. my statements have been focusing on policy. i- quickly as possible. my statements l have been focusing on policy. i urge the prime minister to change policy. that was suella braverman talking on the radio 4 that was suella braverman talking on the radio a programme today to nick robinson. she said the new planned

law on sending asylum seekers two rwanda published yesterday will not work and will not stop the boats. she urge the prime minister to change course. a lot to unpick and the information from robert jenrick�*s resignation last night. let's start with the suella braverman interview. her message and it seemed to be quite clear. this new law will not work and you need to change course.— to change course. good morning. i think that remains _ to change course. good morning. i think that remains to _ to change course. good morning. i think that remains to be _ to change course. good morning. i think that remains to be seen. i think that remains to be seen. emergency legislation that came forward yesterday goes as far as it possibly can. it ticks all the right boxes to ensuring that actually the deal between the uk and they rwanda governing shows people coming to this country illegally will be deported to rwanda because legislation will deem it as a safe

country. there is something the courts will not be able to override and it will override the protections where you have seen, as suella braverman has rightly said in the past, people have been able to appeal those decisions without will not be the case because overwriting and to supplying things like human rights. this has been used too frequently to block these deportations. the emergency legislation that came forward yesterday does go far enough, as well as committing uk to upholding its international obligations in international law. that is something the rwanda government also wants to see. it seems it ticks the right boxes but time will tell. downing street saying _ boxes but time will tell. downing street saying mps _ boxes but time will tell. downing street saying mps need - boxes but time will tell. downing street saying mps need to - boxes but time will tell. downing | street saying mps need to operate within reality. isn't reality that you will not be able to please both sides of the tory party? on one side, suella braverman, on the other side, suella braverman, on the other side people who want to stay within human rights and international laws.

if you do need to strike that balance. the emergency legislation does that. time is not on the side of the government. if you are willing to have a general election in the months although next year had. also, ithink in the months although next year had. also, i think people will not forget that suella braverman was the former home secretary he was in a position to bring forward measures. as she said, two axa parliament have already been passed. this one under the new home secretary and the prime minister seems to go way further and way beyond what had been there previously. i think it does, you know, cover all previously. i think it does, you know, coverallsides previously. i think it does, you know, cover all sides of the debate, for people who rightly say want to make sure the uk abides with its commitment to international law but also does as much as it possibly can to get the rwanda scheme off the ground and make sure you are actually tackling one of the issues this country cares about most, stopping the small boats, deterring

people making that small boat crossing because they will know with the rwanda scheme, as soon as you come into the country illegally you will be deported. that cannot be overwritten by court after court. that will tackle the fundamental issue this country cares about, which is illegal immigration. marat; which is illegal immigration. away from immigration, _ which is illegal immigration. away from immigration, how— which is illegal immigration. away from immigration, how much is down to internal party politics within the tory party? suella braverman was asked about, would wish sunak lead them into the next general election? she said, i hope he does. normally if an mp or minister took to the media, they would say, yes. has, i hope he does. i media, they would say, yes. has, i hope he does-— hope he does. i am sorry suella braverman _ hope he does. i am sorry suella braverman could _ hope he does. i am sorry suella braverman could not _ hope he does. i am sorry suella braverman could not give - hope he does. i am sorry suella braverman could not give her. hope he does. i am sorry suella. braverman could not give her full support. i think if you are going to change leader again, on a point of one particular policy that obviously

suella cares about making money as a hand over the keys to the labour party and number 10 hand over the keys to the labour party and numberio no. rishi hand over the keys to the labour party and number 10 no. rishi sunak is doing all he possibly can in a number of areas, notjust on immigration. the economy is improving and there is a lot of work to do on the nhs but things are getting better. the government needs to communicate a lot more but i think rishi sunak will absolutely be the leader to take into the next election because he will have a good story to tell. small boat crossings are down by a third compared with last year. we are stopping breaking up last year. we are stopping breaking up criminal gangs right across europe. you are getting inflation down and growing the economy. people are seeing the pound again. things will get better, they are getting better, and the government will have to sell that message to the public. if you are going to be holding the government

to account on one point of principle as to whether this legislation goes far enough for it does not, i think it does. other lawyers suggested the government this is the right approach. we will have to wait and see. what is right as everybody in the conservative party, what they need to do this to come together to get behind this particular package of proposals, celebrate what is going on and get behind the prime minister who will lead us into the next general election. ltruihat minister who will lead us into the next general election.— minister who will lead us into the next general election. what do you think rishi sunak— next general election. what do you think rishi sunak will— next general election. what do you think rishi sunak will do? - next general election. what do you think rishi sunak will do? he - next general election. what do you j think rishi sunak will do? he make it a confidence vote. do you think it a confidence vote. do you think it is likely? i it a confidence vote. do you think it is likely?— it is likely? i am not sure about that. it is likely? i am not sure about that- there _ it is likely? i am not sure about that. there is _ it is likely? i am not sure about that. there is enough _ it is likely? i am not sure about that. there is enough in - it is likely? i am not sure about that. there is enough in it - it is likely? i am not sure about that. there is enough in it to i that. there is enough in it to appease both sides. people like rob, robertjenrick, who sadly resigned yesterday. i know he would not have done that lightly because of his personal and close friendship with the prime minister. in reply to robert's letter, if you do supply

all kinds of international law, that is something the rwanda government would not accept. if you get too far, you will never get the scheme off the ground. there has to be a balance between upholding certain parts of international law as well as making sure there is a firm commitment and sovereign parliament that the rule rwanda scheme is legal, it seems it is a safe country and allow the scheme to get off the ground, if i can put it like that, and balance both sides of the conservative party with those who feel immigration is the number one issue and those who want to also accept that and also want to maintain international vacations and abide by international law.— abide by international law. charlie ra , abide by international law. charlie ray. thank _ abide by international law. charlie ray. thank you — abide by international law. charlie ray, thank you very _ abide by international law. charlie ray, thank you very much - abide by international law. charlie ray, thank you very much for - abide by international law. charlie i ray, thank you very much forjoining us on bbc news this morning. the other big political story today, day back over borisjohnson's appearance

at the covid inquiry. yesterday he apologised and admitted his government underestimated the challenge it faced. our correspondent has the story. her report does contain some flashing images. he left under a bobble hat and a chorus of boos from protesters. boris, how do you feel. about being responsible for the deaths of thousands? clearly feeling the cold despite a day's worth of grilling. borisjohnson started as we thought he would — with an apology. can ijust say how glad i am to be at this inquiry, and how sorry i am for the pain and the loss and the suffering... sit down. ..of the covid victims? please — please stop... please sit down. right, could ushers — _ please could you ask them to leave? these were the four women thrown out for interrupting. they said they'd never accept mrjohnson's apology. personally, i don't want to hear empty words from him.

i would like him to tell the truth. i would like the inquiry to be given the opportunity to find out exactly what went wrong. back inside, he admitted his government was slow to realise the threat of the virus in february 2020. i look at all this stuff — in which we seem so oblivious — with horror now. i mean, we should have... we should have twigged. we should collectively have twigged much sooner. i should have twigged. he said mass gatherings — including the cheltenham festival and the rugby match he went to in early march — should have been banned earlier. whether or not long covid was to be equiparated with gulf war syndrome. so it's not that... and he apologised for not taking long covid seriously from the start, scrawling a profanity in the margin of a scientific document. i'm sure that they have caused hurt and offence to huge numbers of people who...who do indeed suffer from that syndrome. and i...i regret very much using that language. borisjohnson is scheduled

for another full day of grilling here at the inquiry later today — there's obviously plenty to get through. but look out this afternoon for questions from lawyers representing bereaved families. his apology to them was clearly not enough. ellie price, bbc news, at the covid inquiry in london. ali has changed her coat and her scarf and is life outside the inquiry. we will get to boris johnson in a moment. we have had news that rishi sunak will appear at the inquiry next week. this news that rishi sunak will appear at the inquiry next week.— the inquiry next week. as we have been expecting — the inquiry next week. as we have been expecting looking _ the inquiry next week. as we have been expecting looking at - the inquiry next week. as we have been expecting looking at the i been expecting looking at the timetable. it has been officially confirmed rishi sunak will be appearing on monday. it feels like an advent calendar. we have had a week's where of scientists and other aids and built up to the politicians. borisjohnson this week for two days. right at the top,

number 2a, for two days. right at the top, number24, not for two days. right at the top, number 2a, not quite 2a but the last window in all of it which will be rishi sunak. he was chancellor at the time, responsible for the eat out to help out scheme was something we will hear more about today. of course now he is prime minister. where borisjohnson was course now he is prime minister. where boris johnson was fighting course now he is prime minister. where borisjohnson was fighting for his reputation as a former prime minister, potentially even higher for rishi sunak, as he leads the country. for rishi sunak, as he leads the count . a . ., for rishi sunak, as he leads the count . 1, . ~ ., for rishi sunak, as he leads the count . ., , for rishi sunak, as he leads the count . ., �*, country. back to boris johnson's evident after _ country. back to boris johnson's evident after his _ country. back to boris johnson's evident after his birthday - evident after his birthday yesterday, what are we likely to hear question why she lode yesterday, what are we likely to hear question why she we didn't get to -a ate hear question why she we didn't get to partygate yesterday. _ hear question why she we didn't get to partygate yesterday. talking - hear question why she we didn't get to partygate yesterday. talking to i to partygate yesterday. talking to protesters outside it was a very big issue and caused a lot of anger where borisjohnson and a lot of other seniorfigures where borisjohnson and a lot of other senior figures were fined. they were holding parties in downing street and around the government a stay at the time when the rest of us

were expected to be adhering to strict lockdown rules. i am sure that will come out and be questioned about what it meant from messaging, aside from the fact what it meant for people who had lost loved ones. we get to the later part of the pandemic, probably the second and third lockdown is, about timing. scientists previously talked about by the second lockdown it was very apparent about what would happen. there was a loud clamour. he will be questioned about the timing. plenty to get to. there will be a public gallery full of people who have travelled hundreds of miles to be here. i had two of them with me now. they are essentially long covid campaigners. that is a significant moment yesterday, borisjohnson moment yesterday, boris johnson appeared moment yesterday, borisjohnson appeared to moment yesterday, boris johnson appeared to acknowledge i moment yesterday, borisjohnson appeared to acknowledge i think for the first time he made mistakes about long covid. he didn't talk about long covid. he didn't talk

about it and did not think about it early enough in the pandemic. he denied its existence and said it was akin to gulf war syndrome. on the basis that people perhaps thinking themselves ill. his apology yesterday was more about the fact his extremely weird word on the study team members contributed to when they were severely ill, it was more regret this was publicised, not regret for the fact he denied the existence of a very real condition. people are still suffering the still developing it, still getting worse, some of us four years in. it is some of us four years in. it is inexcusable. _ some of us four years in. it is inexcusable. what _ some of us four years in. it is inexcusable. what would you like to hear from inexcusable. what would you like to hearfrom him? is anything you can say? for lessons more importantly to be learned. , ., .., be learned. there is nothing he can sa . ido be learned. there is nothing he can say- i do not _ be learned. there is nothing he can say. i do not believe _ be learned. there is nothing he can say. i do not believe a _ be learned. there is nothing he can say. i do not believe a word - be learned. there is nothing he can say. i do not believe a word he i be learned. there is nothing he can| say. i do not believe a word he says anyway. we need urgent research into appropriate treatments that can get to the root of what is causing long

covid, what can treat it. people are severely suffering, losing their jobs, livelihoods, educations, futures, and in some cases their lives. we need urgent help. that is what needs to happen. lang lives. we need urgent help. that is what needs to happen.— lives. we need urgent help. that is what needs to happen. long covid is a hue what needs to happen. long covid is a huge issue- _ what needs to happen. long covid is a huge issue- it _ what needs to happen. long covid is a huge issue. it was _ what needs to happen. long covid is a huge issue. it was misunderstood | a huge issue. it was misunderstood early on in the pandemic. do you think there is a better understanding and better acknowledgement in government about the problem? i am acknowledgement in government about the roblem? . ., , ., the problem? i am not sure we have full understanding _ the problem? i am not sure we have full understanding within _ full understanding within government. research is showing us at deep _ government. research is showing us at deep physiological condition. it includes _ at deep physiological condition. it includes over 60,000 children with theirs _ includes over 60,000 children with theirs we — includes over 60,000 children with theirs. we are starting to advance that knowledge. i do not think we are seeing — that knowledge. i do not think we are seeing recognition that long covid _ are seeing recognition that long covid truly deserves. comments from borisjohnson yesterday covid truly deserves. comments from boris johnson yesterday that trivialised and minimised it again is actually— trivialised and minimised it again is actually quite dangerous because it can _ is actually quite dangerous because it can create is stigma for people in the _ it can create is stigma for people in the uk — it can create is stigma for people in the uk which we have been fighting — in the uk which we have been

fighting against bad advocacy groups and researchers almost four years. we are _ and researchers almost four years. we are likely to get more on the issue of the second lockdown, the second and third lockdown and schools and that sort of thing. other lessons to be learned from that? the timing and scientific advice at that time that well again, you know, add to the sum of knowledge about this condition? absolutely. in terms of decisions to when _ absolutely. in terms of decisions to when knockdowns will be made and the sides when_ when knockdowns will be made and the sides when i_ when knockdowns will be made and the sides when i was discussion yesterday pinpointing around behavioural fatigue and people not adhering _ behavioural fatigue and people not adhering to the rules. almost an admission— adhering to the rules. almost an admission about how we can prevent the spread _ admission about how we can prevent the spread of covid and progression into long _ the spread of covid and progression into long covid. it is really difficult _ into long covid. it is really difficult in terms of the decision is not _ difficult in terms of the decision is not being right when they were made _ is not being right when they were made. lessons to be learned for absolutely. people with bereaved families _ absolutely. people with bereaved families and people progressing to

lon- families and people progressing to long covid. families and people progressing to lona covid. . ., families and people progressing to lona covid. . ~ i. proceedings are about to get under way in the next few minutes. you will have a day's worth of evidence today. this afternoon we can expect questions from lawyers representing bereaved families and long covid groups, so i think the questioning this afternoon could be particularly emotive. we will be back to the covid inquiry shortly. we have some breaking news for you. we havejust learned that rishi sunak, the prime minister, is to hold a news conference in downing street within the next hour or so. let's go live to westminster and political correspondent. what can you tell us? we are expecting the prime minister to give a press conference, as you say, in downing street at around iiam. say, in downing street at around ”am. he will certainly be using this, i think, ”am. he will certainly be using this, ithink, to ”am. he will certainly be using this, i think, to try to defend that you rwanda felt that the government has introduced. after last night, the tory party was once again thrown into chaos after the resignation of

his immigration minister robert jenrick. the bell they have