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to minister thought he was going to lose, he would probably prefer to pull the vote than to lose. but the message from downing street is very clear that this vote is going ahead, so that is certainly why this conversation is happening, because it is so on a knife edge, but that is not something coming from number 10 at the moment. they are saying very clearly they will go ahead with the vote. they think they have got the vote. they think they have got the right bill, they want to put it to the test, they think that this is the only way to get planes off the ground and going to rwanda before a general election, they say. so as things stand at the moment, we are expecting the vote to go ahead at seven o'clock, the debate is getting under way as i say very shortly. but we have heard that noise, i would say at the moment it is only noise. and before we came to you, we had been carrying the speech by the leader of labour, sir keir starmer.
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he told journalists he thought the legislation would sail through. what do you think he means by that or is that some kind of political posturing on his part? there is a lot of political _ posturing on his part? there is a lot of political posturing - posturing on his part? there is a lot of political posturing going i posturing on his part? there is a | lot of political posturing going on on all sides of this debate in many ways. i think keir starmer�*s point is this is a government with a huge majority. they were elected four years ago today in a landslide victory. so the idea that the conservatives can't get a piece of legislation through the house of commons is one that you wouldn't normally countenance it all at this stage. and i think keir starmer�*s point, he essentially doesn't want a situation where rishi sunak is seen to have done really well by navigating all these tensions within his own party and coming out and getting through to the next stage of this legislation. there is also another issue with that, which is evenif another issue with that, which is even if this bill passes today and rishi sunak gets what he wants, it is farfrom clear rishi sunak gets what he wants, it is far from clear that when it then comes back to parliament for amendments and changes and further
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discussion in the new year that he will be able to hold everyone together at that point. so i think keir starmer is kind of suggesting this, but some of these mps, conserved mmps might be making a lot of noise and might hold their nerve this evening —— conservative mps. but he wasn't —— but he doesn't want that to be seen as a huge victory, he wants to point out the difficulties the prime minister faces within his own party. you mentioned the debate is stated to start at about half past 12. explain to viewers what _ start at about half past 12. explain to viewers what is _ start at about half past 12. explain to viewers what is going _ start at about half past 12. explain to viewers what is going to - start at about half past 12. explain | to viewers what is going to happen over the next few hours.— to viewers what is going to happen over the next few hours. there will be a debate _ over the next few hours. there will be a debate in _ over the next few hours. there will be a debate in the _ over the next few hours. there will be a debate in the house _ over the next few hours. there will be a debate in the house of - over the next few hours. there will. be a debate in the house of commons, individual mps stand up and say what they think of the bill, make requests for changes, make their own speeches. and sometimes, they will indicate quite clearly what they are going to do this evening or what they plan to do. others will not make that at all clear. it is only when the bells finally rang and they
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go through the lobbies here in parliament, they vote yes or no or they don't vote at all that we will know for certain what is happening. and it is worth pointing out there are three options. you can vote for this bill vote against it or that middle option of abstention is where the prime minister could be in trouble. it would take around 70 or so, depending on exactly how you work the maths, 70 or so abstentions for the government to be defeated. but that is certainly something those mps who don't like this, don't quite want to vote against it, it is something some of them are looking at and i think it is very feasible that even among those who don't like this bill, you could have a three—way split this evening of some of them voting for it and hoping to change it, others abstaining and others voting a flat out to know. hannah miller, thank you for that analysis and update from the houses of parliament is. back to some breaking news, which is that three
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teenagers have died following a crash between a bus on monday evening, police have confirmed. two boys aged 18 and 119 were declared dead at the scene, two other men aged 19 and 17 were taken to the university of wales in cardiff with life—threatening injuries. let's go live out our correspondent tomos morgan whojoins us live out our correspondent tomos morgan who joins us from coedely. tell us what happened.— tell us what happened. we're still waitin: to tell us what happened. we're still waiting to get _ tell us what happened. we're still waiting to get the _ tell us what happened. we're still waiting to get the full _ tell us what happened. we're still waiting to get the full details. - tell us what happened. we're still waiting to get the full details. asl waiting to get the full details. as you can see behind me, the investigation is continuing into exactly what happened here at around 7pm last night. what we do is there was a fatal collision between a bus and audi a1 around seven pn yesterday evening. as you just mentioned, two 18—year—old men were pronounced dead at the scene as was another 19—year—old man. another 18 and 19—year—old man have been taken
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with life—threatening injuries to the university hospital of wales in cardiff, the capital in wales, to get some treatment. two other individuals were also treated for minor injuries. we have spoken to a local councillor here that has said this stretch of road has been used in the past as a rat run from the main road just over the way. and there have been calls for speed cameras to be placed here. so i'm sure those calls will strengthen again after what has happened here over the past 2a hours. local mps as well have also said this is a tragic incident that has devastated the small community here in coedely in the rhondda valley. what small community here in coedely in the rhondda valley.— small community here in coedely in the rhondda valley. what do we know about how this — the rhondda valley. what do we know about how this crash _ the rhondda valley. what do we know about how this crash might _ the rhondda valley. what do we know about how this crash might have - about how this crash might have happened? irate about how this crash might have happened?— about how this crash might have ha ened? ~ ., ., , happened? we were told initially from the welsh _ happened? we were told initially from the welsh ambulance - happened? we were told initially l from the welsh ambulance service that possibly, there was a motorcycle involved, that doesn't seem to be the case now, it seems to
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have been a collision between a coach and a smaller audi a1 vehicle at some point. we still don't know the full vehicle —— just full details of how that came to be the case. as i mentioned, the road is still closed and i think it is due to be reopened shortly as offices here conduct their investigations. but it has been closed for the best part of 15, 16, 20 hours really as they look and make sure they have gathered the evidence to decipher exactly why those two vehicles collided and caused those fatal injuries to three teenage men. and as you know, two further teenage men remain in life—threatening conditions in hospital. find remain in life-threatening conditions in hospital. and what is the reaction _ conditions in hospital. and what is the reaction from _ conditions in hospital. and what is the reaction from officials - conditions in hospital. and what is the reaction from officials in - conditions in hospital. and what is the reaction from officials in the i the reaction from officials in the area and also from people there? yes, i think it is a very small community in coedely, there is a town further up which is the main
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point near here, the start of the rhondda valley really. details have been slowly coming to us in terms of the situation regarding the individuals involved. that may be because of the two still in a life—threatening condition. but the local mp has told us that this is something that clearly has been going on doing the rounds on social media. a number of posts going out paying tribute to the families involved, asking people to help the police with their inquiries come up with any information they may have, so that they can try and work out what happened here last night, so they can make sure nothing like this happens again in the near future. thank you very much, our correspondent thomas malkin in coedely. and a reminder of some more breaking news this past hour —— tomos morgan. an asylum seeker has
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died on a barge housing migrants of the south coast of england. that is according to the pa media agency. the death is reported to have taken place in the bibby stockholm. this is a barge moored in portland in dorset and which can house around 500,000 people. 0ffice spokesperson said, we are aware of reporting of an incident —— 500 people. the incident involves an asylum seeker on the bibby stockholm. it would be inappropriate to comment further at this time. and you can see the bbc website, where we do have live updates on this breaking story, which is that an asylum seeker is reported to have died on board the bibby stockholm barge in dorset. and now we have the weather, with carol kirkwood. hello again. there's been some heavy rain already this morning,
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a lot of which is now moving away into the north sea, but will linger across scotland. and for the rest of the week, there will be some rain at times, not as heavy as today. it's going to be blustery at times as well. but towards the end of the week, it looks like it is going to turn that bit drier for most of us. now, what we have currently is that area of low pressure which is driving our weather. it's slow—moving. in the centre of it, there's hardly a breath of wind, so any showers in the centre will also be slow—moving. the first front clearing away, but the second one lingering across parts of scotland. so here, the rain will be on and off through the day. but showers packing in across northern ireland, england and also wales could be heavy and thundery. north—west scotland seeing the lion's share of the sunshine today, but brisk winds across the south—western approaches, the english channel and north—east england and eastern scotland coastlines. now, through this evening and overnight, low pressure continues to slowly move eastwards. eventually, a lot of the showers and the rain will be confined to the east, although we could see a few
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showers developing in wales and also south—west england. but under clearer skies in scotland and northern ireland, it's going to be a cold night, with some patchy frost in the highlands. but wherever you are, it's going to be a colder night than last night. so tomorrow, our low pressure continues to move off towards the low countries, taking its cloud and its patchy light rain and drizzle with it. brightening up behind it. a fair bit of dry weather and sunshine tomorrow, especially across central and western areas. but you can already see the next weather front just waiting in the wings. that's going to bring in some more rain, mostly overnight on wednesday. these two fronts sink southwards. we could see some temporary snow in the hills in scotland and northern england. and that will contin—ue to journey down into the southeast during the course of thursday morning. eventually, a lot of this cloud will push into the south—east. it will be late in clearing here, though. 0ut towards the west, drier and brighter. again, a lot of sunshine around. just a few showers here and there, with temperatures eight
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to about 12 degrees. then as we head towards the end of the week and into the weekend, well, high pressure establishes itself in the south, so things more settled here, but cloudy. whereas in the north, there will be fronts, so some rain at times.
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live from london, this is bbc news. deal or no deal in dubai? frantic negotiations at the un climate summit after anger over lack of fossil fuel commitments. the waiting game here in dubai continues as nations are still far apart when it comes to a climate deal. more flares and explosions in gaza — a un aid chief says civilians there are enduring �*hell on earth'. rishi sunak calls in his mps, as he tries to head off a rebellion which could vote down his rwanda asylum policy. in turkey — a football club president is arrested, after punching a referee
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following a top—flight game. hello, i'm lucy hockings, welcome to bbc news now. three hours of fast—moving news, interviews and reaction. in what is supposed to be the final day of the cop28 climate conference, there's still no deal to tackle global warming. eleventh—hour talks are taking place after an earlier draft received a storm of criticism because it stopped short of calling for fossil fuels to be phased out. let's take a look at the initial draft. the draft omitted the "phase out" of fossil fuels many nations have demanded, drawing criticism from the united states, europe and climate—vulnerable countries. instead, the text lists various measures that countries could use to cut emissions to achieve net zero by or around 2050. lobbying by members of the oil producer group 0pec is thought to have influenced the negotiations.
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in a measure of the challenge facing the talks, the us climate chief

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