front pushing east turning briefly to snow, transient snow across the highlands and the pennines and the chi viets as we go through wednesday night, and the front will move further eastwards as we head into the weekend so an improving picture in the west with sunshine and milder feeling air. mp5 in the west with sunshine and milder feelin: air. ~ , . ., ., ., feeling air. mps are about to vote on the crucial _ feeling air. mps are about to vote on the crucial plan _ feeling air. mps are about to vote on the crucial plan for _ feeling air. mps are about to vote on the crucial plan for asylum - on the crucial plan for asylum seekers. our political editor chris mason is in central lobby. it is not just it is notjust about it is not just about the it is notjust about the rwanda plan, but it's about the prime minister's authority, because if he loses, it is crushed and i bumped into a former cabinet minister who has kicked around the place for awhile who reckoned the government will probably win the prime minister's body language suggested earlier on that but may be the government does not know what is going on. don't be surprised if we hearfrom going on. don't be surprised if we hear from the potential rebels in the next ten or 15 minutes and a final thought. whatever you think about the conservative party or

indeed politicians in general, this is what politics and democracy can look like. when people here are deciding what happens as far as the government's bait is concerned. and, boy, does the prime minister know it tonight. —— the government's fate. join us at ten when we will tell you what has happened. now it's time to join the news team is concerned. and, boy, does hello. i'm hugh ferris. welcome to a slightly shorter sportsday this evening with events at parliament. but for all the lurching turbulence of manchester united's season so far, they do still have a chance of reaching the last 16 of the champions league tonight. the task is by no means small, nor completely in their control, but a win against bayern munich and harry kane at old trafford, and a draw between the group's other

two teams and the picture would once again change for erik ten hag and the team. patrick gearey reports. a dismal, miserable day for manchester united. manchester united havel been thoroughly beaten. not one of them were fit to wear the shirt. there is a disconcerting echo around manchester united this season, repetitive but unignorable. now in the champions league things are coming to a head. even victory against bayern munich might not be enough to keep them in it. not worth thinking about, according to the manager. we think positive. so we know what to do, we have to win to stay in europe, so it's all about that. we will prepare the team with that feeling, with that belief, that we are able to do it. after 11 defeats in 23, anyone familiar with the darker corners of united's difficult decade might recognise patterns. noises and feelings that have built until the manager changes.

it's the player �*s responsibility. it's the player �*s responsibility. it needs to come from the players and we need to stick together while on the pitch. but now they will be tested again. bayern a formidable foe and a familiarface. in an alternative universe harry kane could be playing for united in this game. they were interested in buying him. as it is, his bayern side are already through and in his first club game back in england, he has the chance to show united what they're missing. i think every fan would think that, that they wish for harry kane in their team. that's why we are very proud that we managed to seduce him and we managed to steal him from premier league and from english football. he's your skipper of your national team and he's a big personality. it's a clear header! and it's in the net! solskjaer has won the european cup! think of manchester united versus bayern munich and you think of the improbable. the 1999 champions league final, when united turned it around

at the very last moment. they will hope that these are the echoes they hear tonight. patrick gearey, bbc news. yes, manchester united's campaign is playing out under an inescapable spotlight right now. but there have been plenty of famous european nights at old trafford. where we can join our correspodnent nesta mcgregor. nesta it may well need something specalfrom united tonight. yes, very special indeed to get past the german champions. they might be facing german opposition but it's facing german opposition but its two french words that spring to mind when thinking about manchester united and they are deja view. talk about manchester united needing a result. number one is to have any chance of reaching the last 16 of the champions league. number two to appease fans who are annoyed at the inconsistency and number three the

rumours about erik ten hag's future. bayern munich are a huge club, they have been struggling a bit which might mean the cop is a bit of a skip for them and as we mentioned, harry kane, football has await of writing his own script and he could have joined manchester united. speaking of which, former premier league winner chris sutton will be commentating on the game for the bbc and he says manchester united have a tough night ahead. if and he says manchester united have a tough night ahead.— tough night ahead. if their performance _ tough night ahead. if their performance was - tough night ahead. if their performance was anything j tough night ahead. if their - performance was anything like on saturday, — performance was anything like on saturday, heaven help them. look, they are _ saturday, heaven help them. look, they are relying on a draw in the other_ they are relying on a draw in the other game between copenhagen and galatasaray to go through. from a players _ galatasaray to go through. from a players perspective and erik ten hag's_ players perspective and erik ten hag's perspective it's about winning the game _ hag's perspective it's about winning the game and worrying afterwards. by and havent— the game and worrying afterwards. by and haven't been in bad form this season _ and haven't been in bad form this season. harry kane, whether he plays or not. _ season. harry kane, whether he plays or not, because ducal has the option

of resting _ or not, because ducal has the option of resting some players, but manchester united have been so inconsistent. you don't know what youte _ inconsistent. you don't know what you're going to get from one week to the next _ you're going to get from one week to the next. there have been patches this season — the next. there have been patches this season when manchester united have performed. he has to hope they have performed. he has to hope they have one _ have performed. he has to hope they have one hell of a patch night and they take — have one hell of a patch night and they take the chances when they come atom} _ they take the chances when they come alonu. , . they take the chances when they come alon. , ., ., , they take the chances when they come alon. , ., .,, ., they take the chances when they come alonu. , ., ., , along. given that there has to be some cohesion, _ along. given that there has to be some cohesion, tonight - along. given that there has to be some cohesion, tonight is - along. given that there has to be some cohesion, tonight is the . some cohesion, tonight is the performance and if they do go out, the way they go out more important. a really good question. i don't a really good question. idon't think— a really good question. i don't think s0~ — a really good question. i don't think so. essentially at the start of this— think so. essentially at the start of this group campaign, everybody fancied _ of this group campaign, everybody fancied manchester united to go through — fancied manchester united to go through. they've got to win tonight and keep— through. they've got to win tonight and keep theirfingers through. they've got to win tonight and keep their fingers crossed for the other— and keep their fingers crossed for the other results. there haven't been _ the other results. there haven't been enough strong performances this season _ been enough strong performances this season~ this— been enough strong performances this season. this has been a very strange manchester— season. this has been a very strange manchester united. compare them to last season _ manchester united. compare them to last season when i thought they exceeded expectation. this season so far, exceeded expectation. this season so far. let's _ exceeded expectation. this season so far. let's get — exceeded expectation. this season so far, let's get it right, it's been a massive — far, let's get it right, it's been a

massive disappointment. just far, let's get it right, it's been a massive disappointment. just over an hour before kick-off. _ massive disappointment. just over an hour before kick-off. we _ massive disappointment. just over an hour before kick-off. we are - hour before kick—off. we are expecting the team lose an hour before kick—off. will harry kane be in the squad? speaking to united fans, one of them said, it would sum up fans, one of them said, it would sum up our season if we battered bayern munich but the result doesn't away. another fan said he munich but the result doesn't away. anotherfan said he had munich but the result doesn't away. another fan said he had written to santa cruz and cancelled the orders he had made before. he said he would trade it all for a win tonight. his only caveat was he thinks he is on the naughty list.— the naughty list. thank you very much, the naughty list. thank you very much. nesta — the naughty list. thank you very much, nesta mcgregor. - arsenal's place in the last 16 was secured with a game to spare and they're playing psv eindhoven, who'll go through with them to the knockout stage. it's half—time in the netherlands. arsenal are ahead having the last few minutes of the first half. arsenal have the lead. let's have a quick look at some of the other stories making the headlines today. henry aaron doug will be ineligible

for selection after signing a new deal. the ringer had been in paris since the bankruptcy of london irish but the new contract rules now apply. dame denise lewis has been elected president of uk athletics. the 2000 olympic heptathlon champion takes over the ceremonial role of the week after the organisation announced losses of nearly £4 million. world champion luca purcell is through to the last of the scottish openin through to the last of the scottish open in snooker. john higgins and mark selby are among those attempting to join mark selby are among those attempting tojoin him in this evening �*s session. a turkish football club president has been arrested after punching a referee at the end of a league match in the country, leading to the suspension of domestic football. ankaragucu president faruk koja ran onto the pitch

and attacked the official, who was taken to hospital. he has now been detained along with two others for �*injuring and threatening a public servant due to his public duty�*. referee halil umut meler was knocked to the ground, where he received several more blows, suffering injuries including a small facialfracture. fifa called the attack �*totally unacceptable' and that �*without match officials there is no football�*, while uefa also strongly condemned it. the president of turkey�*s football federation claimed the incident was a �*milestone�* and a sad event that should not be forgotten, while the country�*s president says the incident �*saddened and disturbed�* him. koja has since apologised and resigned, as ankaragucu�*s president saying "no matter how great injustice or wrong the refereering was, nothing can legitimize or explain the violence that i committed". barsh erten is a turkish footballjournalist. we are not surprised because for a while, for a long while, we were

talking about possible violence against referees, violence in sport, violence in football, violence in society. it�*s a mid—table game, no need to be under pressure, that much pressure but we were talking a lot about the referees. in the last minute goal, they lose their temper and this happen. minute goal, they lose their temper and this happen-— and this happen. what about the other clubs? _ and this happen. what about the other clubs? there _ and this happen. what about the other clubs? there are _ and this happen. what about the other clubs? there are lots - and this happen. what about the other clubs? there are lots of i other clubs? there are lots of people in turkey following the story and the huge, big name clubs that we know about here in the uk, have they been contributing to that atmosphere? been contributing to that atmoshere? ., ., , , ., atmosphere? unfortunately they are the leadin: atmosphere? unfortunately they are the leading figures, _ atmosphere? unfortunately they are the leading figures, above _ the leading figures, above everything in football, above everything in football, above everything in football, above everything in sport in turkey. at the beginning of the season they started talking about the referees. these are not discussions, they are threats. almost violence. they raise their fists but don�*t punch. nobody

is taking responsibility. there are no resignations beyond the president of this football club. they should take responsibility but the only thing they did was postpone the leak. probably not attend any game in the future. leak. probably not attend any game in the future-— in the future. what might be the resolution to _ in the future. what might be the resolution to that? _ in the future. what might be the resolution to that? will- in the future. what might be the resolution to that? will you - in the future. what might be the resolution to that? will you see | in the future. what might be the i resolution to that? will you see the referees attempting to threatening to go on strike? i referees attempting to threatening to go on strike?— referees attempting to threatening to go on strike? i think they should do that. to go on strike? i think they should do that- also _ to go on strike? i think they should do that. also they _ to go on strike? i think they should do that. also they should _ to go on strike? i think they should do that. also they should invite - to go on strike? i think they shouldj do that. also they should invite the players as well. if they unite altogether, not only referees about players, maybe something can change and can force, especially the leaders of the society to change something about violence in sport. violence against referees has been a growing issue in uk with campaigns in the elite game out to grass

roots. i was really, really shocked. this is a fifa referee. this is a game at the elite level where you would expect some modicum of security that would prevent this. watching the brutality, you have to say this is not anything to do with football. not anything to do with a refereeing decision. this guy has got to be banned for life from football. this guy is a complete and utter disgrace. shrill guy is a complete and utter disgrace-— guy is a complete and utter disrrace. �* , ., ., disgrace. all the things that a referee prepares _ disgrace. all the things that a referee prepares for, - disgrace. all the things that a referee prepares for, all- disgrace. all the things that a referee prepares for, all the i disgrace. all the things that a - referee prepares for, all the things that he thinks might come their way over the course of a 90 plus minute game, this surely is not amongst them. ~ , ,., , game, this surely is not amongst them. ~ , , ., game, this surely is not amongst them. ~ , ., ., them. absolutely. you are mindful that ou them. absolutely. you are mindful that you have _ them. absolutely. you are mindful that you have to _ them. absolutely. you are mindful that you have to take _ them. absolutely. you are mindful that you have to take care - them. absolutely. you are mindful that you have to take care but - them. absolutely. you are mindful that you have to take care but it i that you have to take care but it shouldn�*t influence the decisions. you have to be tough at times, the

turkish fa must be hanging their heads in shame because this is a precedent of a football club. he is not a fan, he is someone in authority that should be setting an example. authority that should be setting an examle. ., ., , , ., example. you mentioned this being a fiaure of example. you mentioned this being a figure of authority. _ example. you mentioned this being a figure of authority. do _ example. you mentioned this being a figure of authority. do you _ example. you mentioned this being a figure of authority. do you feel- figure of authority. do you feel whether it is here, there or further afield that there is a responsibility for those in authority to tone down the rhetoric? look, it�*s a disease, football. there is no induction, no cure. we are all passionate whichever club�*s support but we have to control our own behaviour and where behaviour goes over the top, and out of control, then i think that is up to the authorities and in some cases the authorities and in some cases the police to deal with that. this is a referee, 37 years old. four colleagues _ is a referee, 37 years old. four colleagues were _ is a referee, 37 years old. four colleagues were heard - is a referee, 37 years old. four colleagues were heard with - is a referee, 37 years old. four colleagues were heard with respect. everyone�*s point of view was given due wait and consideration.

asa as a result of that, we have decided, collectively, that we cannot support the bill tonight because of its many omissions. therefore, while it is down to every individual colleague ultimately to decide what to do, collectively, we will not be supporting it. the prime minister has been telling colleagues today he is prepared to entertain tightening the bill. with that aim, at the committee stage, we will aim to table amendments which would, we hope, if accepted, materially improve the bill and remove some of

its weaknesses. for want of a better phrase, you might want to call it the cash amendment because he will undoubtedly be helping to draft it. we very much hope that at committee those amendments may yet be accepted. if they are not, and the bill remains unamended in that way, again, collectively, we agreed to reserve the right to vote against it at third reading. that is what collectively we have decided and i�*ll ask sirjohn hayes of the common—sense groupjust i�*ll ask sirjohn hayes of the common—sense group just to amplify that. john. 50 common-sense group 'ust to amplify that. john. , ., ., ., that. john. so you will have heard over the last _ that. john. so you will have heard over the last few _ that. john. so you will have heard over the last few weeks _ that. john. so you will have heard over the last few weeks both - that. john. so you will have heard over the last few weeks both the | over the last few weeks both the former home secretary and the former immigration minister say that the bill in its current form isn�*t fit

for purpose. we are persuaded of that case. however, we want to give the government a chance to listen to what they have said previously and what they have said previously and what we are saying now. we believe that that engagement provides the opportunity to make this bill do what it says on the tin which is provide the opportunity to effect the rwanda policy and so fulfilled the rwanda policy and so fulfilled the prime minister�*s pledge, the prime minister�*s pledged to stop the boats. to that end we had come together as a group and united, it�*s absolutely right as mark says that they will come to their own judgment, that�*s the way this place works, but we believe that because we have had those kinds of discussions that we can act broadly and collectively and we will consider what the government do next. what they do next will determine what we do next and that

means the third reading of the bill. thank you very much.— means the third reading of the bill. thank you very much. there are a few other things — thank you very much. there are a few other things to _ thank you very much. there are a few other things to hear _ thank you very much. there are a few other things to hear and _ thank you very much. there are a few other things to hear and then - thank you very much. there are a few other things to hear and then we - other things to hear and then we will answer questions. in behalf of the neo—conservatives, miriam kates. yes, just— the neo—conservatives, miriam kates. yes. just to _ the neo—conservatives, miriam kates. yes, just to echo what mark and john have said _ yes, just to echo what mark and john have said we — yes, just to echo what mark and john have said. we all— yes, just to echo what mark and john have said. we all agreed _ yes, just to echo what mark and john have said. we all agreed the - yes, just to echo what mark and john have said. we all agreed the bill- yes, just to echo what mark and john have said. we all agreed the bill is. have said. we all agreed the bill is defective _ have said. we all agreed the bill is defective as — have said. we all agreed the bill is defective as it _ have said. we all agreed the bill is defective as it is. _ have said. we all agreed the bill is defective as it is. we _ have said. we all agreed the bill is defective as it is. we don't - have said. we all agreed the bill is defective as it is. we don't believe it will— defective as it is. we don't believe it will stop — defective as it is. we don't believe it will stop the _ defective as it is. we don't believe it will stop the boats, _ defective as it is. we don't believe it will stop the boats, there - defective as it is. we don't believe it will stop the boats, there are . it will stop the boats, there are too nrany — it will stop the boats, there are too many opportunities - it will stop the boats, there are too many opportunities for - it will stop the boats, there arel too many opportunities for legal challenge, — too many opportunities for legal challenge, but— too many opportunities for legal challenge, but we _ too many opportunities for legal challenge, but we do _ too many opportunities for legal challenge, but we do support i too many opportunities for legall challenge, but we do support the principle — challenge, but we do support the principle which _ challenge, but we do support the principle which is _ challenge, but we do support the principle which is to _ challenge, but we do support the principle which is to stop - challenge, but we do support the principle which is to stop the - principle which is to stop the boats — principle which is to stop the boats we _ principle which is to stop the boats. we have _ principle which is to stop the boats. we have agreed - principle which is to stop the boats. we have agreed to i principle which is to stop the | boats. we have agreed to act collectively _ boats. we have agreed to act collectively to _ boats. we have agreed to act collectively to not _ boats. we have agreed to act collectively to not support i boats. we have agreed to act| collectively to not support the boats. we have agreed to act i collectively to not support the bill at this— collectively to not support the bill at this stage _ collectively to not support the bill at this stage but _ collectively to not support the bill at this stage but to _ collectively to not support the bill at this stage but to be _ collectively to not support the bill at this stage but to be open- collectively to not support the bill at this stage but to be open to i at this stage but to be open to amendments _ at this stage but to be open to amendments from _ at this stage but to be open to amendments from the - at this stage but to be open to i amendments from the government at this stage but to be open to - amendments from the government that will strengthen — amendments from the government that will strengthen the _ amendments from the government that will strengthen the bill— will strengthen the bill significantly _ will strengthen the bill significantly at- will strengthen the bill. significantly at committee will strengthen the bill- significantly at committee stage will strengthen the bill— significantly at committee stage and third reading. — significantly at committee stage and third reading. so— significantly at committee stage and third reading, so we _ third reading, so we collectively reserve — third reading, so we collectively reserve the _ third reading, so we collectively reserve the right _ third reading, so we collectively reserve the right to _ third reading, so we collectively reserve the right to vote - third reading, so we collectivelyj reserve the right to vote against third reading, so we collectively. reserve the right to vote against it at that _ reserve the right to vote against it at that point _ reserve the right to vote against it at that point if— reserve the right to vote against it at that point. if the _ reserve the right to vote against it at that point. if the government . reserve the right to vote against it . at that point. if the government was not willing _ at that point. if the government was not willing to — at that point. if the government was not willing to accept _ at that point. if the government was not willing to accept our _ not willing to accept our amendments. _ not willing to accept our amendments. it- not willing to accept our amendments. it is- not willing to accept our amendments. it is the l not willing to accept our i amendments. it is the fourth anniversary— amendments. it is the fourth anniversary of— amendments. it is the fourth anniversary of the _ amendments. it is the fourth anniversary of the general. amendments. it is the fourth- anniversary of the general election, the new— anniversary of the general election, the new conservatives _ anniversary of the general election, the new conservatives group, - anniversary of the general election, the new conservatives group, most| anniversary of the general election, . the new conservatives group, most of us were _ the new conservatives group, most of us were elected — the new conservatives group, most of us were elected for— the new conservatives group, most of us were elected for the _ the new conservatives group, most of us were elected for the first _ the new conservatives group, most of us were elected for the first time i us were elected for the first time on that— us were elected for the first time on that date _ us were elected for the first time on that date with _ us were elected for the first time on that date with the _ us were elected for the first time on that date with the promise i us were elected for the first time on that date with the promise to| on that date with the promise to take control _ on that date with the promise to take control. this _ on that date with the promise to take control. this bill— on that date with the promise to take control. this bill does i on that date with the promise to take control. this bill does not l take control. this bill does not offer— take control. this bill does not offer the — take control. this bill does not offer the opportunity- take control. this bill does not offer the opportunity to -

take control. this bill does not offer the opportunity to take . take control. this bill does not i offer the opportunity to take back control— offer the opportunity to take back control but — offer the opportunity to take back control but we _ offer the opportunity to take back control but we think _ offer the opportunity to take back control but we think it _ offer the opportunity to take back control but we think it could i offer the opportunity to take back control but we think it could do i control but we think it could do with— control but we think it could do with amendments— control but we think it could do with amendments and - control but we think it could do with amendments and so - control but we think it could do with amendments and so that. control but we think it could dol with amendments and so that is control but we think it could do - with amendments and so that is what we will— with amendments and so that is what we will be _ with amendments and so that is what we will be pushing _ with amendments and so that is what we will be pushing for. _ with amendments and so that is what we will be pushing for. said _ with amendments and so that is what we will be pushing for.— we will be pushing for. said jake. thank you- _ we will be pushing for. said jake. thank you i _ we will be pushing for. said jake. thank you. i think _ we will be pushing for. said jake. thank you. i think hopefully i we will be pushing for. said jake. thank you. i think hopefully you | thank you. i think hopefully you have _ thank you. i think hopefully you have all— thank you. i think hopefully you have all listened to what we have said _ have all listened to what we have said we — have all listened to what we have said. we are not supporting the bill. said. we are not supporting the bill so— said. we are not supporting the bill. so the bulk of us will abstain _ bill. so the bulk of us will abstain. bill. so the bulk of us will abstain-— bill. so the bulk of us will abstain. , ., ., ., ., bill. so the bulk of us will abstain. i. ., ., ., ., bill. so the bulk of us will abstain. ., ., ., ., ., abstain. do you have an idea of what numbers you — abstain. do you have an idea of what numbers you are _ abstain. do you have an idea of what numbers you are talking _ abstain. do you have an idea of what numbers you are talking about? i abstain. do you have an idea of what| numbers you are talking about? yes. next question- _ numbers you are talking about? yes. next question. can _ numbers you are talking about? yes. next question. can you _ numbers you are talking about? yes. next question. can you tell— numbers you are talking about? yes. next question. can you tell us? i numbers you are talking about? yes. next question. can you tell us? no. | next question. can you tell us? no. look, ou next question. can you tell us? no. look, you haven't— next question. can you tell us? no. look, you haven't got _ next question. can you tell us? no. look, you haven't got long. - next question. can you tell us? no. look, you haven't got long. the i look, you haven't got long. the votes _ look, you haven't got long. the votes will— look, you haven't got long. the votes will take place in a few minutes _ votes will take place in a few minutes. the bells will ring. so none _ minutes. the bells will ring. so none of— minutes. the bells will ring. so none of you have got very long to wait. _ none of you have got very long to wait. but — none of you have got very long to wait. but i — none of you have got very long to wait, but i have learnt, having done this for— wait, but i have learnt, having done this for a _ wait, but i have learnt, having done this for a few— wait, but i have learnt, having done this for a few years, you never predict — this for a few years, you never predict numbers before a vote. it's nothing _ predict numbers before a vote. it's nothing personal. there have been a

number— nothing personal. there have been a number of— nothing personal. there have been a number of discussions in the course of today— number of discussions in the course of today with number ten, with the chiet— of today with number ten, with the chief whip, with others. michael tomlinson, who is now the bill minister. — tomlinson, who is now the bill minister, contacted us shortly before — minister, contacted us shortly before our meeting and agreed that he is very— before our meeting and agreed that he is very happy to enter into discussions between the government's lawyers. _ discussions between the government's lawyers, the star chamber '5 lawyers. _ lawyers, the star chamber '5 lawyers, to see whether or not they and we _ lawyers, to see whether or not they and we can— lawyers, to see whether or not they and we can agree on a way forward. there's— and we can agree on a way forward. there's been— and we can agree on a way forward. there's been a lot of communication in the _ there's been a lot of communication in the course — there's been a lot of communication in the course of the day but we are taking _ in the course of the day but we are taking the — in the course of the day but we are taking the prime minister at his word _ taking the prime minister at his word when he said he was prepared to see the _ word when he said he was prepared to see the bill— word when he said he was prepared to see the bill tightened and we now need _ see the bill tightened and we now need to— see the bill tightened and we now need to explore the envelope for that _ need to explore the envelope for that. sorry, iwant need to explore the envelope for that. sorry, i want to spread this around _ that. sorry, i want to spread this around a — that. sorry, i want to spread this around a bit. who has not had a question? — around a bit. who has not had a question? is around a bit. who has not had a question?— question? is this a defeat? effectively _ question? is this a defeat? effectively you _ question? is this a defeat? effectively you say - question? is this a defeat? effectively you say you i question? is this a defeat? effectively you say you will| effectively you say you will abstain... if there is no change? to

be fairwe abstain... if there is no change? to be fair we have been very clear in what _ be fair we have been very clear in what we — be fair we have been very clear in what we were saying. let me put it like this. _ what we were saying. let me put it like this, when we booked a room this evening, we had to take the room _ this evening, we had to take the room that— this evening, we had to take the room that we could get, you know how busy these _ room that we could get, you know how busy these rooms are. by chance we ended _ busy these rooms are. by chance we ended up— busy these rooms are. by chance we ended up in— busy these rooms are. by chance we ended up in the wilson room. harold winston _ ended up in the wilson room. harold winston once only said a week is a lon- winston once only said a week is a long time — winston once only said a week is a long time in— winston once only said a week is a long time in politics. one a month there _ long time in politics. one a month there is— long time in politics. one a month there is a — long time in politics. one a month there is a very long time so let's pick this— there is a very long time so let's pick this up— there is a very long time so let's pick this up again in january. there is a very long time so let's pick this up again injanuary. we will table — pick this up again injanuary. we will table amendments and we will take it _ will table amendments and we will take it from there. ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much indeed _ gentlemen, thank you very much indeed. . gentlemen, thank you very much indeed. , ,., , , gentlemen, thank you very much indeed. , _ , ., indeed. number ten say they are workin: indeed. number ten say they are working on _ indeed. number ten say they are working on parameters. - indeed. number ten say they are working on parameters. to i indeed. number ten say they are working on parameters. to go i indeed. number ten say they are i working on parameters. to go beyond that would collapse the deal with rwanda. �* ., ., ., , , that would collapse the deal with rwanda. �* ., ., , ., rwanda. i'm not going to pre-empt a neaotiation rwanda. i'm not going to pre-empt a negotiation that _ rwanda. i'm not going to pre-empt a negotiation that is _ rwanda. i'm not going to pre-empt a negotiation that is just _ rwanda. i'm not going to pre-empt a negotiation that is just about - rwanda. i'm not going to pre-empt a negotiation that is just about to i negotiation that is just about to start _ negotiation that is just about to start. thank you very much. 0ur— start. thank you very much. our correspondent trying to get a last couple of questions in with

mark francois. so a dramatic moment. not at all what prime minister rishi sunak would have wanted. this is his attemptjust sunak would have wanted. this is his attempt just so you sunak would have wanted. this is his attemptjust so you are aware to get his flagship asylum policy through. introducing this bill into the house of commons, expecting the backing, hoping for the backing of all factions of his party, the conservative party, from the left and right side. that grouping of more right—wing conservatives saying they cannot and they will not support their prime minister on this bill. he hinted the bulk would abstain, so don�*t exactly know what that will do to the numbers, we don�*t know exactly what that would mean for the vote, but as mark francois pointed out, not long to wait, just a few minutes. let�*s cross to our deputy political editor vicki young. not what rishi sunak

would have wanted to hear. his. vicki young. not what rishi sunak would have wanted to hear. ha. i would have wanted to hear. no, i su ose would have wanted to hear. no, i soppose if— would have wanted to hear. no, i soppose if he _ would have wanted to hear. no, i soppose if he is _ would have wanted to hear. no, i suppose if he is looking - would have wanted to hear. no, i suppose if he is looking for i would have wanted to hear. no, i suppose if he is looking for a i suppose if he is looking for a silver lining, they are at least saying they will abstain rather than vote against. but it�*s a slightly confusing message from that group because they are saying they do believe that the bill ultimately could work but it needs amending, it is changing at a later stage. of course for them to reach that later stage it has to get through this hurdle. it has to get past its second reading. if 58 conservatives were to abstain, actually it would be defeated and that would be the end of it certainly for this particular bill. who knows how many numbers they think they have got, presumably they don�*t think they have as many as 58 but not the news rishi sunak would have wanted. clearly a group there of tory mps who want him to go further. they don�*t think he has gone fine enough, they want to block off the appeal channel for people, they wanted to be the stage that people will not be

able to appeal because they think it will end up that these flights, as previously, will get delayed, they will not happen. they want him to go further. the counter argument to that from another sizeable chunk of tory mps is that would breach our international legal obligations. the government has made clear it will not do that, that he wants to of course be within international law. in saying the remand and government said they wouldn�*t want to continue with this if they breach international law, so that is the dilemma rishi sunak is in. if it were to be amended further, he loses a bigger chunk of mps on the other side. so he will i suppose in the short—term just hope to get through to my�*s vote and just to explain that the first vote that we will have at seven o�*clock is actually on a labour amendment. the crucial one is the one after that which will be whether the bill proceeds at all. absolutely fascinating. just so people understand what is going on,

we are listening and watching vicki youngin we are listening and watching vicki young in one of the boxes are next to that is the debate in the house of commons in the houses of parliament, wrapping up and we are expecting it to go on forjust a couple more minutes, and then the voting starts and then there is a bit of a delay again before the action and we find out any kind of results. you heard mark francois there in that statement beforehand saying his group, that group of mps have decided they cannot support the bill but he wouldn�*t be drawn on trying to predict any kind of numbers or any kind of result, saying he had been here in situations like this before. you may remember the name and face from those lengthy brexit debates. our thanks to vicki young, our deputy political editor. we will be back with her later on but we will leave you for the moment with these pictures of the houses of common ——

house of commons. the final few moments of this debate, the minister taking questions there. but that about wraps it up for us. thank you very much for your company. this is bbc news. and if you�*re watching in the uk, we will stay with these pictures because the crucial minutes and moments are approaching. let�*s take a quick listen in. moments are approaching. let's take a quick listen in.— a quick listen in. what an outrageous _ a quick listen in. what an outrageous suggestion i a quick listen in. what an| outrageous suggestion he a quick listen in. what an - outrageous suggestion he made. a quick listen in. what an _ outrageous suggestion he made. i'm outrageous suggestion he made. i�*m only sorry they were not more noise in the chamber to hear that particular point. the member made an expanding speech. the inescapable, the inestimable, the irresistible logic of my honourable friend�*s speech. all people should have been here to hear what he said. it was

logical, compelling. i have turned to him before and i thank him for his work in this area. for pointing out what has already happened since the supreme court, namely the treaty. the memberfor north norfolk gave us actual numbers, notjust a percentage but actually turning it into numbers and the memberfor gloucester took us on a tour demand. it is notjust our country facing these challenges, this is a challenge of our time, this is a global challenge. let me end with this, i have sat through this debate. i have sat here for more than six hours and i have heard every single speech from this side of the house and most beaches from the other side. i have heard every single front bench speech from the labour party and what was missing was a plan. labour have no plan. no plan! intervention after

intervention, where is the plan? there was chuntering from the home secretary from a sedentary position. where was the plan? there was a verbal vacuum! there wasn�*t even a cut in place —— and paste solution! contrast that with a clear determination on this side of the chamber to stop the boats and i commend this bill to the house. cheering order! ., ., , ., ., , order! the original question was that the bill— order! the original question was that the bill be _ order! the original question was that the bill be now _ order! the original question was that the bill be now read - order! the original question was that the bill be now read a i order! the original question was l that the bill be now read a second time _ that the bill be now read a second time since — that the bill be now read a second time since when an amendment has been— time since when an amendment has been proposed as on the order paper. the question is that the amendment be made _ the question is that the amendment be made. as many as are of the opinion. — be made. as many as are of the opinion. say— be made. as many as are of the opinion, say "aye". to the contrary, "no"~ _ opinion, say "aye". to the contrary, "no"~ division! _ opinion, say "aye". to the contrary, "no". division! clearthe lobby!

there you have it. voting is under way. division is called. they will now charge through the voting and cast their vote. we don�*t know which way it is going. it is looking pretty close, pretty tight. let�*s bring in some experts to talk us through this. john curtice standing by. quite a moment coming up. it by. quite a moment coming up. it certainly is an important test of the prime minister�*s authority but whether or not the government was wise in the first place, a, to try to major on this issue and be, certainly to do so in the wake of the division it has caused in the party is perhaps doubtful. it�*s

perhaps... that is particularly true of those who voted conservative in 2019, however once you discover there�*s a lot of people who are unhappy about immigration will vote conservative nevertheless. so it�*s not an issue that clearly distinguishes those who are likely to remain loyal to the conservatives from those who do not and therefore it�*s not obviously issue that is pushing the conservative vote up or down. indeed we have already seen in the wake of the announcements that were made last week, both about legal and immigration, were made last week, both about legaland immigration, by the government and the like all the other attempts, government and the like all the otherattempts, preset government and the like all the other attempts, preset moments and announcements made by this government, this one also has so far had absolutely no impact on conservative support in the polls. the government want major on an issue that will not move the polls. he needs to focus on the economy and

the health service. star; he needs to focus on the economy and the health service.— the health service. stay there for us, to the health service. stay there for us. to explain — the health service. stay there for us, to explain if _ the health service. stay there for us, to explain if you're _ the health service. stay there for us, to explain if you're just i us, to explain if you�*rejust joining us, i am lewis vaughanjones in london but these are live pictures of commons, the reason we are staying and rolling on these life pictures is because the government rwanda line is being voted upon. the plan is sending people who arrived in the uk in small boats to work or. this is a key plank of rishi sunak, the prime minister policy, it has been contentious and come up against opposition from different wings of his own party, some on the right don�*t think it goes far enough, assume on the left where it could break international law will stop so, lots at state for the rishi sunak prime ministerial pledge coming up. as to what�*s happening right now, there is a liver

opposition