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welcome to verified live. a senior white house adviser has arrived in israel to repeat us calls for restraint in the war against tomas. he is like you to discuss a timetable for ending the fighting. his visit comes as israel's ambassador to the uk has said the country would not accept a two state solution when the war in gaza ends. there has been no letup in israel's bombing in the hours before his visit. this is the aftermath of a strike in rafa in the south of the gaza strip. the hamas run ministry says at least 2a people have been killed in air strikes on two houses in rafa today. us officials say he is expected to call for greater precision in future is really targeting of hamas. it follows criticism of israel over the number of civilian casualties and overwhelming support for a ceasefire during a vote at the un general assembly. these are some of the
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latest pictures coming in of jake sullivan, his meeting there with israel's defence mr and as i was saying, president biden only a couple of days ago making his strongest comments yet of camera but talking about the indiscriminate bombing and his concern about the numbers of civilian casualties and we know that jake sullivan going there again to tel aviv with that message and also a message about what america sees as the timeline for this war compared to what israel apparently once. also, that area in the last 36 hours hit by a terrible weather that is
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making everything so much more difficult distressing pictures there but these are the scenes around khan younis where people are struggling with the weather as well as all of the displacement. there you see just what the conditions are like for people who have been displaced, asked to move three, four or five times now to the south of khan younis. those are some of the latest pictures. those displaced people in gaza have been speaking to the bbc about their struggles, gaza have been speaking to the bbc about theirstruggles, due gaza have been speaking to the bbc about their struggles, due to the weather we are seeing in those pictures. these are voices of some of the people in the camps. translation:— of the people in the camps. translation: , ~ ., , ., translation: only god knows what we are auoin translation: only god knows what we are going through- _ translation: only god knows what we are going through. we _ translation: only god knows what we are going through. we don't _ translation: only god knows what we are going through. we don't have - are going through. we don't have clothes or water. we are tired from going back and forth and moving water. it is a never—ending process. there is no electricity and water has entered the tents. we don't have any clothes for the
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winter. _ we don't have any clothes for the winter. nor— we don't have any clothes for the winter, nor do we have any bed sheets— winter, nor do we have any bed sheets or— winter, nor do we have any bed sheets or blankets. we are struggling a lot due to the weather. i am constantly moving and working and trying _ i am constantly moving and working and trying to cover the tent and the nylon _ and trying to cover the tent and the nylon keeps blowing away because of the weather. our children are very sick, _ the weather. our children are very sick, they— the weather. our children are very sick, they have high fever and influenza _ influenza. i - influe nza. i have influenza. i have also been speaking to influenza. — i have also been speaking to the emergency coordinator who is helping the hospital in gaza that is overwhelmed with triple the number of patients it can actually cope with. we have that full interview later in the programme but that is here a little of what they have said about the horror of the situation currently on the ground at the hospital. we see a lot of people very badly injured, we see a lot of burns, a lot of wounds from explosions. our
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surgeons are operating sometimes on children as young as two years old who have been amputated. our surgeons are also operating on patients who have no more than 40% of their body with secondary burns so it is really critical cases. at the same time, it is very difficult for these patients, difficult to continue to find beds for these patients. it is difficult to find space because the hospital is also now a shelter for people and we have thousands of people staying in the hospital. a graphic account of footage dislike in that hospital. that is go straight tojerusalem in that hospital. that is go straight to jerusalem and in that hospital. that is go straight tojerusalem and our middle east correspondence. we were showing the pictures of jake sullivan there on the ground, he comes with the toughest message yet from washington. how is that likely to be received? we washington. how is that likely to be received? ~ , ., ., washington. how is that likely to be
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received? ~ , . ., , ., received? we 'ust had a statement from the italy— received? we just had a statement from the italy government - received? we just had a statement from the italy government with - received? we just had a statement i from the italy government with some points that had been discussed during the meeting betweenjake sullivan and the italy defence minister and the israeli minister said that it would take more than several months to destroy hamas and that hamas had built infrastructure that hamas had built infrastructure thatis that hamas had built infrastructure that is not easy to be destroyed and that is not easy to be destroyed and that this would require a period of time. the words there from the is really defence minister. i think the americans would like to talk about weeks, not months, for the end of this war. amid growing calls, international calls for a ceasefire international calls for a ceasefire in gaza and again, amid this worsening humanitarian crisis in gaza. it is very interesting that this meeting, this visit from a jake sullivan is happening just days after president biden made his strongest comments yet about the situation in gaza. he said that
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israel was losing international support because of what he described as indiscriminate bombing of gaza and again, we are seeing countries around the world expressing discontent with the situation in gaza, not only because of the widespread destruction caused by those israeli attacks but also because of the worsening humanitarian crisis with widespread shortage of basic supplies and still very limited humanitarian aid being allowed to enter the territory. before the visit, the expectation was that jake sullivan was going to press for a timeline for the end of this war and also for more precision in those is relate strikes targeting hamas positions across gaza. briefly, they don'tjust disagree on the tactics or the way this war is actually being conducted on the timeline, there is also no agreement about what happens after the military part of it, and that is a
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big problem, isn't it?— military part of it, and that is a big problem, isn't it? exactly, so the biden administration - big problem, isn't it? exactly, so the biden administration has - big problem, isn't it? exactly, sol the biden administration has been big problem, isn't it? exactly, so - the biden administration has been in favour of the control of gaza being transferred to the palestinian authority, which is the body that governs part of the occupied west bank. benjamin netanyahu and some senior is really officials have been expressing opposition to this plan so some disagreements have emerged between the americans and the israelis about what is going to happen in post—war gaza. i think some is relate commentators believe that the prime minister is trying to score some points with his right—wing supporters by expressing these oppositions and opposing this plan that has been shared by the biden administration. obviously this is the most hardline, most religious
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government in is really history and many members of the italy government opposed the creation of an independent palestinian state. they want is really settlement that have been built in the west bank to be legalised and some believe that by taking this position, that goes against the plans that have been expressed by the biden administration that the prime minister is trying to score simply to go points. thanks very much. a little later, i will speak to the former foreign ministerfor the will speak to the former foreign minister for the palestinian national authority and yasser arafat's nephew. that is coming up in a five or ten in its. another really important story because in his first major news conference since russia launched its first scale invasion of ukraine, vladamir putin is insisting the work is going well. when asked about normalising relations between europe, he said he was open to the
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idea but it is not up to us, we did not ruin relations, they did that. they have always tried to push us back. we believe us is a necessary country for the world. unless they want to come to terms peacefully, we have to take some action, including military action. you were listening to the hours of vladamir putin taking all of those questions. your headline thoughts? i think he seemed as confident as he
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has since almost two years ago when he ordered the invasion of ukraine, that it was going to go russia's way. he set his goals had not changed, they are vaguely worded because his tactical ambitions have shifted over the course of the war but they mean the complete surrender of ukraine, total capitulation and many in the sphere of russia's influence. if you look at what he said about the battlefield itself, he seems more confident than ever that russia will win out. he said the ukrainian counteroffensive had failed. he seemed very emboldened by the recent clinical issues in the uk —— us, getting more military support to ukraine and he seemed to think that would lead to the inevitable victory for russia. he does not look like someone who is prepared for any kind of peace talks and negotiations. he seemed very confident that russia is going to win this war. confident that russia is going to win this war-— win this war. that confidence is
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based on his — win this war. that confidence is based on his belief _ win this war. that confidence is based on his belief he - win this war. that confidence is based on his belief he can - win this war. that confidence is i based on his belief he can outlast the west? ~ , ,., , based on his belief he can outlast the west? ~ ,,., , ,, based on his belief he can outlast the west? ~ ,,., , i. ., ., ~' based on his belief he can outlast the west? ~ , , i. ., the west? absolutely, if you look at it from his perspective, _ the west? absolutely, if you look at it from his perspective, b _ the west? absolutely, if you look at it from his perspective, b is - the west? absolutely, if you look at it from his perspective, b is a - it from his perspective, b is a lens, hejust went it from his perspective, b is a lens, he just went to washington earlier this week. he met withjoe biden and spoke to centres but the latest usa package of military support for ukraine is still stuck in the senate. there are ulcers of arguments with the republicans who are imposing various clinical roadblocks and both ukraine and the white house have said that if ukraine does not get more military support from the us and other western countries, that they will lose this war. vladamir putin seems very much to agree with them, he said ukraine does not produce almost anything of its own and what they get is for free from the west and the free stuff is running out, he said. i think there is a lot to embolden him going on with the
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faltering western support for ukraine at the moment. americans estimate 300,000 _ ukraine at the moment. americans estimate 300,000 russians - ukraine at the moment. americans estimate 300,000 russians have i ukraine at the moment. americans - estimate 300,000 russians have been killed in this war. he did not talk about casualties although he did talk about over 600,000 russians now fighting in ukraine. that number is mushrooming over the two years, does that create any additional pressure on vladamir putin? he that create any additional pressure on vladamir putin?— on vladamir putin? he was very clear, it on vladamir putin? he was very clear. it is _ on vladamir putin? he was very clear. it is a _ on vladamir putin? he was very clear, it is a stage-managed - on vladamir putin? he was very i clear, it is a stage-managed event clear, it is a stage—managed event and he was clay trying to appear sensitive to the ways of the war is impacting society, there were lots of questions from people involved in the war effort, a patchwork quilt of volunteer groups as well as regular soldiers and even a call in from the front line in a trench with vladamir putin's face and you could hear gunfire in the background. mostly they were complaining about not having supplies that they were promised but it was striking that vladamir putin, he didn't really
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seem to be on top of these issues. he would say things like, oh, yes, there may be supply issues, we are not perfect but generally, everything is going fine. also, it was a four hour press conference and theissues was a four hour press conference and the issues of the war were mostly done and dusted after the first hour and a half so he spoke about a lot of other social and economic topics. he seemed keen to say that the war was just one of the things happening in their lives but the war has come to dominate every facet of russian society and the message is seeking to normalise the war but he has every thing under control and everyone can keep, and carry on, i think would be his message to russians. iiis think would be his message to russians. , , ., , , ., , russians. his grip on power seems as secure as it — russians. his grip on power seems as secure as it has _ russians. his grip on power seems as secure as it has always _ russians. his grip on power seems as secure as it has always been. - russians. his grip on power seems as secure as it has always been. just - russians. his grip on power seems as secure as it has always been. just a l secure as it has always been. just a quick question about that badge you are wearing, the usjournalist quick question about that badge you are wearing, the us journalist held in russia, there was a question
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about that, do you get sense that perhaps there is some sort of swab that may come about in the coming weeks and months? i that may come about in the coming weeks and months?— weeks and months? i really cannot seak weeks and months? i really cannot speak about _ weeks and months? i really cannot speak about becoming _ weeks and months? i really cannot speak about becoming extant - weeks and months? i really cannot - speak about becoming extant months. today was the first time we heard vladamir putin say anything about ivan, thejournalist vladamir putin say anything about ivan, the journalist arrested vladamir putin say anything about ivan, thejournalist arrested on absurd charges back in march. vladamir putin said they are discussing a possible release which would be presumably kind of prisoner exchange act they did last year with the basketball star who was arrested in russia for another american who has been in prussia jailforfive years. he said the dialogue is difficult and we don't know what is going to happen. we knew that the white house recently said they made in recent weeks, and over to russia that they thought was a substantial offer but russia said no, we do know
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russia is keen on extracting a high price from the us for the release of its citizens. this was a very interesting comment that he acknowledged the talks were happening and russia is understood in some kind of revolution. thank ou for in some kind of revolution. thank you forjoining — in some kind of revolution. thank you forjoining us _ in some kind of revolution. thank you forjoining us on _ in some kind of revolution. thank you forjoining us on bb - in some kind of revolution. thank you forjoining us on bb news. . you forjoining us on bb news. staying with all of that because european union leaders have been meeting in brussels, a summit dominated by divisions between hungary and the rest of the block over ukraine. high on the agenda or a huge package of financial and military support in the opening of formal entry talks with kyiv but hungary is threatening to veto both. earlier, president zelensky addressed the european council remotely, warning that now was not the time for half measures or hesitation. ten years ago, it was a symbol of
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truth for them and it should remain so and i ask you one thing today. do not betray the people and their faith in europe. if no one believes in europe, what will keep the european union alive? evil in europe will not see any benefit if moscow receives a pass from brussels in the form of negativity towards ukraine. vladamir putin will surely use of course these against you personally. and against all of europe. going on to say, don't give vladamir putin his first victory of the year. that is go to our europe correspondence. how deep to these divisions run? {line correspondence. how deep to these divisions run?_ divisions run? one eu official described _ divisions run? one eu official described it _ divisions run? one eu official described it to _ divisions run? one eu official described it to me, _ divisions run? one eu official described it to me, the - divisions run? one eu official described it to me, the way l divisions run? one eu official. described it to me, the way he divisions run? one eu official - described it to me, the way he feels at the moment is, 26 european
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countries against one and that will be hungry. to give you context, the man who chairs this meeting has called this a pivotal european council and he has urged eu leaders to take bold decisions when it comes to take bold decisions when it comes to ukraine. they have been talking for hours and at the moment, they are discussing ukraine during the european union. but there is no agreement on that yet that is because we understand there is quite a lot of drama behind—the—scenes of the hungarian prime minister. he has said that he is very much against ukrainejoining the said that he is very much against ukraine joining the block and said that he is very much against ukrainejoining the block and he said that if that were to happen, it would have devastating consequences for the eu. he points to the fact that ukraine is a country that is at war and one of the most corrupt countries in the world. so we expect this to be quite a long and complicated negotiation and of course, it is important to also remember why this matters so much
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for ukraine. president zelensky has said that a strong message from brussels today when it comes to ukraine being able tojoin brussels today when it comes to ukraine being able to join the brussels today when it comes to ukraine being able tojoin the eu at some point in the future would send a powerful message of hope for the ukrainian people and for his troops that are currently fighting against russia. just a reminder that even if there is just russia. just a reminder that even if there isjust one russia. just a reminder that even if there is just one country, hungary, thatis there is just one country, hungary, that is against all of this, that matters quite a lot because all of these decisions, any decision about a new countryjoining the eu needs to be unanimous so you have one small country that has the power to veto the whole thing and to derail months advance of work. around the world and across the uk, you're watching bbc news. mps from the uk's committee on
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standards have recommended the member for blackpool south scott benton should be suspended for 35 days after being caught in a lobbying scandal. if the house of commons agrees with the recommendation, it will triggera recommendation, it will trigger a recall recommendation, it will triggera recall petition which could lead to a by—election in his constituency. the father, stepmother and uncle of ten—year—old sara sharif who died at her home in woking and august have pleaded not guilty to her murder. they appeared at the old bailey by video link and also pitted not guilty to a second charge of causing or allowing the death of a child. the wealth minister has declared his candidacy to lead welsh labour and become the next first minister of wales. he has had on social media that he had strong support from right across the party. mark drakeford announced on wednesday he was quitting as welsh labour leader.
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you are life with bbc news. we return to remain story because president biden's national advisor jake sullivan is meeting with netanyahu in tel aviv as is really forces continue their offensive against hamas in gaza. mr sullivan is excited to press for more precision in israel's bombardment and possibly for a timeline for an end to the war. we have just heard that israel's defence minster has told mr sullivan at the work will take more than several months. that is the code that is just emerged. let us talk to senior member of the foreign ministry for the palestinian authority and yasser arafat's nephew. welcome to bbc news. we will talk about the pinnacle situation in a moment but i know you have a lot of family and friends inside the gaza strip. how alarm door you buy what we have been seeing? indeed, of course, what we have been seeing? indeed, of course. like — what we have been seeing? indeed, of course. like many _
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what we have been seeing? indeed, of course, like many others, _ what we have been seeing? indeed, of course, like many others, i _ what we have been seeing? indeed, of course, like many others, i have - course, like many others, i have family and friends. their homes were described and they were moved and then they moved again and my understanding is that at least 50 of them are squeezed in one room somewhere on the beach. it is a horrible situation but it is everywhere and it affects everybody. every single palestinian and gaza. when you hear, as we have heard in the last ten minutes, israel's defence minister, they want to see the work last several more months, what do you think? thea;r the work last several more months, what do you think?— the work last several more months, what do you think? they are a bunch of extreme — what do you think? they are a bunch of extreme not. _ what do you think? they are a bunch of extreme not. that _ what do you think? they are a bunch of extreme not. that is _ what do you think? they are a bunch of extreme not. that is no _ what do you think? they are a bunch of extreme not. that is no surprise. | of extreme not. that is no surprise. they are changing their mind every single day and every other day and it is horrible situation. part of it of course is the government, the most extreme, even fascist kind of government that is governing everything and now, what is even worse is that benjamin netanyahu,
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while many is released want him out on the except the consensus that it is ok, the leader of the government during the war, he is trying to impact the situation after the war. i don't think he has a mandate to do that and this is again, it sparked of the actions and statements and things that are making things much worse. , �* ., , things that are making things much worse. , �* .,, ., ~ ., worse. president biden was talking a coule of worse. president biden was talking a couple of days _ worse. president biden was talking a couple of days though _ worse. president biden was talking a couple of days though about - worse. president biden was talking a. couple of days though about benjamin netanyahu's coalition partner, those on the far right wanting to punish all palestinians, so that point has been recognised in the white house but the uae ambassador said the message going forward is clear after that un vote on tuesday, we need a viable two state solution plan, a road map that is serious and we won't talk about the next day and possibly the reconstruction of gaza unless we get that. in your view, is that where the international community has to really land its
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focus? ., , community has to really land its focus? . , ., ., , focus? that is part of it and my understanding _ focus? that is part of it and my understanding is _ focus? that is part of it and my understanding is that _ focus? that is part of it and my understanding is that this - focus? that is part of it and my understanding is that this was l focus? that is part of it and my| understanding is that this was a joint statement by saudi arabia and uae i. of course it is helpful and good and can serve the purpose of pushing the situation forward in the right direction, in the direction of a political solution that is based on the existence of palestine and israel with a mutual obligation between the both of them. there is a need not only — between the both of them. there is a need not only to _ between the both of them. there is a need not only to be _ between the both of them. there is a need not only to be a _ between the both of them. there is a need not only to be a change - between the both of them. there is aj need not only to be a change perhaps in the future is a league of but also the palestinian authority, president biden once that to be the vehicle going forward after the military, but even within palestinians, there was a pool only yesterday showing that 60% of palestinians thought the palestinian authority should be just dissolved, so there is no real support on the ground for the policy and authority,
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is there? �* ,., ground for the policy and authority, is there? ~ ' ::f ., ground for the policy and authority, isthere? ~ ,.., ., ., , ., , is there? about 9096 of palestinians want him out- _ is there? about 9096 of palestinians want him out. this _ is there? about 9096 of palestinians want him out. this is _ is there? about 9096 of palestinians want him out. this is the _ want him out. this is the palestinian position and the situation or the conditions of the leadership is something that should be decided by the palestinian people themselves. not by anyone else. as such, they come overwhelmingly, want to maintain the authority, but nevertheless, they want also to change the control. these guys have to go, they have been more than 18 years, that is more than enough and it's time for the palestinian people to see faces, people that they can trust and that they enjoy efficiency and they can do the mentaljob which is the palestinian people in the gaza strip. or even in the west bank
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as well. ., gaza strip. or even in the west bank as well. . , ., , as well. that division between the palestinian _ as well. that division between the palestinian authority _ as well. that division between the palestinian authority and - as well. that division between the palestinian authority and hamas l as well. that division between the | palestinian authority and hamas is as well. that division between the i palestinian authority and hamas is a further competition on the ground. you are yasser arafat's nephew, when you watch what is happening on the ground in the west bank, in the gaza strip, do you conclude and look back to the year 2000, those events at camp david and conclude, like so many others, that that opportunity to make peace and have a two state solution, which yasser arafat turned his back on, was the missed opportunity of a generation? you would not be _ opportunity of a generation? ym. would not be surprised that we, the palestinian people, have a different reading. it was not that yasser arafat turned his back on this opportunity, it was the is release of the destroyed any potential for peace and we have seen the result of the strategy of successive is really governments with regard to hamas in the gaza strip and the palestinian
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question in general. it is the reason now for the catastrophic situation we are in and nevertheless, let us hope that the future will be better and that we finally will enjoy peace between two states, israeland finally will enjoy peace between two states, israel and palestine thank you so much for taking time to speak to us on bbc news. ajudge here has ruled that a former soldier will stand trial for murder in relation to the bloody sunday deaths in londonderry in 1972. 13 people were shot dead by the parachute regiment and a civil rights demonstration in the bogside area. that is talk to our arrant correspondence who is in belfast for us. bring us right up—to—date. this us. bring us right up-to-date. this case relates _ us. bring us right up-to-date. this case relates to _ us. bring us right up—to—date. in 3 case relates to bloody sunday, which happened on the 30th of january 1972. 13 people were killed by soldiers from the parachute regiment
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in the bogside area of londonderry, a mainly nationalist area. in terms of the numbers of people killed, it was one of the worst days of the conflict here in northern ireland, known as the trouble is, and in terms of the significance of the development of the conflict, it too was a significant day. the army veteran who has been charged in connection with bloody sunday is known as soldier f. there is a court order protecting his anonymity but he is charged with murder over the killings of james gray and william mckinney. he also faces five charges of attended murder. the prosecution process began in 2019 but today in derry, hearing was held to decide whether soldier f would be sent for a trial. thejudge whether soldier f would be sent for a trial. the judge there whether soldier f would be sent for a trial. thejudge there has ruled that he should be sent for trial here at belfast crown court. a date has not been set yet but it will be scheduled very soon. we has not been set yet but it will be scheduled very soon.— has not been set yet but it will be scheduled very soon. we will take a
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short break- — scheduled very soon. we will take a short break. when _ scheduled very soon. we will take a short break. when we _ scheduled very soon. we will take a short break. when we come - scheduled very soon. we will take a short break. when we come back, l scheduled very soon. we will take a i short break. when we come back, we will talk to an agency on the ground in the gaza strip who were saying a short while ago that gaza is not habitable any more. some spells of sunshine, just the here or there. temperatures probably getting little above five or six degrees across parts of east anglia and south east england. but otherwise, the weather turning a bit milder with temperatures reaching double figures in the west. now overnight tonight will have clear skies develop across most areas of the country. it's going to be a cold night and cold enough for a few patches of frost to develop in the countryside. temperatures in the towns and cities, particularly across england and wales, getting close to freezing on into friday's forecast.
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pressure is building across the uk. i think there'll still be a lot of cloud across wales and southern parts of england. the best of any sunshine, east and northeast england for scotland will have outbreaks of rain developing, particularly across western areas. temperatures across the north west mild at 12 degrees, but still some of the coolest air hanging on across eastern areas of the country on into the weekend. we've got a weather front that gets stuck across the north west of scotland, bringing some very large rainfall totals to the highlands where we could see up to 175 millimetres of rain building in over the high ground. that could be enough to cause some flooding issues and maybe even one or two landslips in the mountains. otherwise, we've got south westerly winds across the uk and that will be tending to drag milder air in across our shores through the weekend. however, we'll probably still have extensive low cloud, so mist and fog patches and a bit of drizzle across western areas that lack more persistent rain effects in the highlands. a few breaks in the cloud across eastern areas of england and at times eastern
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scotland could see some hazy sunshine as well. but it will feel milder, temperatures around 11 to 13 degrees. now, you might see a bit more in the way of sunshine breaking through the cloud across england and wales on sunday. but the rain, if anything, a bit more extensive across scotland. also the chance of a bit of rain in northern ireland on sunday as well. temperatures could go as high as 13 or 16 degrees, so it continues to be mild. however, the mild weather isn't going to last that much longer because in the week before christmas it is set to turn quite a lot colder. and that's your latest weather.

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