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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. today's ruling is vindicating and affirming. i've been told that slaying dragons will get you burned, but in light of today's victory and importance of doing what is needed for a free and honest press, it is a worthwhile price to pay. i for a free and honest press, it is a worthwhile price to pay.— for a free and honest press, it is a worthwhile price to pay. i also want to reiterate. _ worthwhile price to pay. i also want to reiterate, as _ worthwhile price to pay. i also want to reiterate, as i've _ worthwhile price to pay. i also want to reiterate, as i've consistently - to reiterate, as i've consistently said, _ to reiterate, as i've consistently said. i've — to reiterate, as i've consistently said, i've never hacked a phone or told anybody else to hack a phone, and nobody has produced any actual evidence _ and nobody has produced any actual evidence to prove that i did. there's_ evidence to prove that i did. there's a _ evidence to prove that i did. there's a sense in my head, where are they— there's a sense in my head, where are they getting _ there's a sense in my head, where are they getting it _ there's a sense in my head, where are they getting it from? _ there's a sense in my head, where are they getting it from? what - there's a sense in my head, wherel are they getting it from? what am i doing _ are they getting it from? what am i doing wrong? — are they getting it from? what am i doing wrong? i_ are they getting it from? what am i doing wrong? i thought _ are they getting it from? what am i doing wrong? i thought it— are they getting it from? what am i doing wrong? i thought it was- are they getting it from? what am i doing wrong? i thought it was quitei doing wrong? i thought it was quite -ood doing wrong? i thought it was quite good at _ doing wrong? i thought it was quite good at my— doing wrong? i thought it was quite good at n1nob!— doing wrong? i thought it was quite good at myiob! i_ doing wrong? i thought it was quite good at myjob! i feel— doing wrong? i thought it was quite good at myjob! i feel slightly- good at myjob! i feel slightly better— good at myjob! i feel slightly better about _ good at myjob! i feel slightly better about myself - good at myjob! i feel slightly better about myself that - good at myjob! i feel slightly
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better about myself that i- good at myjob! i feel slightly. better about myself that i know good at myjob! i feel slightly- better about myself that i know now how they _ better about myself that i know now how they were — better about myself that i know now how they were getting _ better about myself that i know now how they were getting those - better about myself that i know now| how they were getting those stories. prince harry wins his phone hacking case against the mirror group and is awarded £ia0,000 in damages. he describes it as "a great day for truth". the former editor piers morgan denies he knew anything about it. we'll get reaction tonight from alan yentob, whose phone was hacked thousands of times while he was working in senior senior roles here at the bbc. more grim news from gaza. three israeli hostages were shot dead by israeli hostages were shot dead by israel troops, mistaken for hamas fighters. and later in the programme, an exclusive interview with poland's new foreign minister radoswav chikorski. what does he make of hungary's decision to veto eu funding for ukraine?
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a very good evening. "i've been told that slaying dragons will get you burnt" — the words of prince harry, read in a statement by his lawyer after the high court had ruled he was a victim of phone hacking by the group that publishes the daily mirror, the sunday mirror and the people. thejudge said the phone hacking was widespread and habitual and that the former editor of the mirror, piers morgan, knew about the practice. today, mr morgan came out fighting, saying he had never hacked the phone or ever asked anyone to do so. the company that now owns the papers has apologised unreservedly. but prince harry's legal victory — and damages ofjust over £ia0,000 — could open the way to further legal action. here's our media editor katie razzall. today's cases of three. a significant victory. in 15 articles about prince harry in all three mirror titles, the newspaper group has been found
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to have intercepted five voice—mails and gathered other information unlawfully. private voicemails and gathered other information unlawfully. phone hacking at the paper, thejudge found, was widespread and habitual. prince harry's lawyer read out his client's words after the 386—page judgment was delivered. "this case is not just about hacking. "it is about a systemic practice of unlawful and appalling behaviour, "followed by cover—ups and destruction of evidence, "the shocking scale of which can only be revealed "through these procedures." the articles include this in the people in 2003, about a row between harry and william about whether to meet about whether to meet their mother's former butler. thejudge says both proably had their phones hacked — a serious security concern. most of the 15 unlawfully gathered articles relate to his time with former girlfriend chelsy davy, including this in the mirror, in 2005, about her plans to dump him
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— and this in the sunday mirror in 2007, phone hacking involved in both instances. prince harry said the relentless invasion killed their relationship. press intrusion killed their relationship. there was this article in this newspaper about his date with tv presenter caroline flack, £15,000 in damages for distress to the prince. in all, he takes away just over £140,000. two senior executives, former ceo sly bailey and former legal director paul vickers, knewjournalists and private detectives were breaking the law, said thejudge. better—known and a name that came up often in court was piers morgan, who edited the daily mirror from 1995 to 200k. a royal author also gave evidence that mr morgan knew about a 2002 story that kylie minogue came from deception. the judge said he was a reliable witness. piers morgan fought back.
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as i've consistently said for many years now, i've never hacked a phone or told anyone else to hacked a phone, and nobody has produced any actual evidence to prove that i did. his former employers, mirror group newspapers, had earlier welcomed the judgment as giving them clarity. "where historical wrongdoing took place", they said, "we apologise unreservedly and we have taken full "responsibility and have paid appropriate compensation." this is a significant decision on a story from a different media age where the tabloids were read by millions, and apparently, all too often, broke the law to get their exclusives. thejudge ruled the hacking of prince harry's phone was modest, but it did go on. a senior royal hacked byjournalists, whose bosses knew. mirror group always said that didn't happen. through his barrister, prince harry explained how much thejudgment means to him. "today's ruling is vindicating and affirming. "i have been told that slaying dragons will get you burnt, "but in light of today's victory and the importance of doing
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"what is needed for a free and honest press, "it is a worthwhile price to pay. "the mission continues." as for him saying this is "a good day for truth," the truth that has been repeatedly exposed in recent years as someone who wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him around his californian tanned face. he demands accountability for the press, but refuses to accept any for himself for smearing the royal family, his own family, as a bunch of callous racists without producing a shred of proof to support those disgraceful claims. prince harry, seen here leaving court in the summer, has had his judgment. around 80 other people, many of them high—profile, have similar claims against the mirror group, and will be examining the judge's decision closely. alan yentob has held senior roles here at the bbc. he was formerly comptroller of bbc one and bbc two. he sued the mirror group newspapers
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in 2015 after his phone was hacked. a very good evening. you've had some experience, what happened to you? what happened to me was unusual because there weren't many stories about me in the mirror, but my address book and my phone were sort of cold and aladdin's came by david sherwood, involved in the harry case and has done many of the hacking cases. it was the met police who came to me because people had been found responsible for hacking and felt guilty and owned up to the fact that they had been hacking my phone. what's particularly interesting about my case, i think, is there was about my case, i think, is there was a complete denial by the mirror that they had hacked it. eventually, they offered me £100,000, which was a significant sum in 2015. particularly because the stories,
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the hacking had led to them really getting to other people's phones. they were keen on the mirror on stories with things like this. it was a sort of invasion, but i didn't know. i hadn't got rid of my voicemails. but then what happened is david wanted me to go into court. he felt that there were other quite fragile witnesses at that time like paul gaskin, so i did go to court. but i made it clear at the time that i was not doing it for the money. in a civil case, if you get less than you were offered and you've gone to court, you have to pay all the costs. the costs are very substantial. but when the judge...
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costs. the costs are very substantial. but when thejudge... i was offered 100. when the judge gave me 90,000, he could see in the court that i have been offered more. normally, this would be an unsatisfactory settlement. david scher board said to the judge, your honour, "i was in court today because he didn't consider this to because he didn't consider this to be an unsatisfactory cell settlement." it be an unsatisfactory cell settlement. "— be an unsatisfactory cell settlement.“ ., , �* ., settlement. " it wasn't about the mone , settlement. " it wasn't about the money. it _ settlement. " it wasn't about the money. it was — settlement. " it wasn't about the money, it was about _ settlement. " it wasn't about the money, it was about the - settlement. " it wasn't about the l money, it was about the principle of what had happened. how many times do you think you are hacked? if you you think you are hacked? if you look at the _ you think you are hacked? if you look at the press _ you think you are hacked? if you look at the press reports - you think you are hacked? if you look at the press reports on - you think you are hacked? if you i look at the press reports on those newspapers which were in tacking, thejudge said that newspapers which were in tacking, the judge said that my phone was hacked at least three times a day from 2007-2009._
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hacked at least three times a day from 2007-2009. _, ., , , ., ., , from 2007-2009. goodness. that was the eriod from 2007-2009. goodness. that was the period after— from 2007-2009. goodness. that was the period after piers _ from 2007-2009. goodness. that was the period after piers morgan - from 2007-2009. goodness. that was the period after piers morgan had - the period after piers morgan had left the paper, but i wonder if you might... be kind enough to tell us what you think about his response. he said it was an investigative practice that everyone knows was going on at almost every paper. he said he was merelyjust passing on rumours at the level is an inquiry. i wonder if it's possible for a national newspaper editor to publish stories, top stories of celebrities, and not be inquisitive about where they have come from. i and not be inquisitive about where they have come from.— and not be inquisitive about where they have come from. i don't want to comment about _ they have come from. i don't want to comment about piers _ they have come from. i don't want to comment about piers morgan. - they have come from. i don't want to comment about piers morgan. that'sj comment about piers morgan. that's not my place. what i would say is if you listen to the judgment today, which was an extraordinaryjudgment, thejudge made it clear... remember that a lot of these newspapers can detach themselves from this because there were many investigative journalists who were providing them with the information and were hacking the phones. thejudge
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with the information and were hacking the phones. the judge today has said there were dozens of these people, and he's also made it clear that there were key people at the mirror. i'm not going to mention names, but he said they were aware of this from 2003 onwards. even the lawyers sitting in the company also knew about it, but clearly didn't acknowledge it. find knew about it, but clearly didn't acknowledge it.— acknowledge it. and the most extraordinary _ acknowledge it. and the most extraordinary thing _ acknowledge it. and the most extraordinary thing was - acknowledge it. and the most extraordinary thing was the i acknowledge it. and the most l extraordinary thing was the own hacking continued during the level and inquiry. most of it between 2003-2009 -- and inquiry. most of it between 2003—2009 —— leveson inquiry. and inquiry. most of it between 2003-2009 -- leveson inquiry. again, it is not for 2003-2009 -- leveson inquiry. again, it is rrot for me — 2003-2009 -- leveson inquiry. again, it is not for me to _ 2003-2009 -- leveson inquiry. again, it is not for me to comment _ 2003-2009 -- leveson inquiry. again, it is not for me to comment on. - it is not for me to comment on. there've been people campaigning for a long time to take this further. but i can assure you, david share born and my... this is not the end
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of it. whether there is another review of this post leveson, that's another matter. but lord leveson did say my case was exceptional, the fact that i got less money than i had been offered, but that it was not... i didn't pay the cost. as you say, i'm sure prince harry didn't do it for the £140,000. that wouldn't be much for him. he did it to get to the facts, get to the truth. i think you're going to find many more people implicated in this. i'm pretty sure that's going to happen. alan yentob, very good of you to join us. thank you very much. pleasure. around the world and across the uk. you're watching bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. there's been an alarming rise in the number of very young children in scotland escaping from nursery school care. in the past year, two children
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a week on average disappeared eitherfrom nursery or while on trips. a nursery trade association said its members were taking the issue seriously and cited staffing pressures, with a greater number of inexperienced staff. households face paying more for their energy bills to help suppliers recover nearly £3 billion in debts from customers who can't pay their bills. 0fgem is proposing lifting the energy price cap by £16 from april. the watchdog said it wanted energy companies to use the extra funding to support struggling customers. six of lionel messi's jerseys worn during last year's world cup have sold for a combined £6.1 million at auction. messi captained argentina to victory at the tournament with his country beating france on penalties in the final. the six jerseys were from the first half of the final, semifinal, quarter—final, last—16 tie and two group games. you're live with bbc news. for the families of the israeli
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hostages, the worst possible news today. three of their loved ones, shot and killed by israeli soldiers in northern gaza, mistaken, says the idf, for hamas fighters. the bodies have been returned to israel, and two of the victims were identified as yotam haim, who was kidnapped from kibbutz kfar aza, and samer talalka, who was abducted from kibbutz nir am. the family of the third hostage has asked for the name not to be revealed. just hours earlier, the bodies of three other hostages were recovered in gaza — two of them israeli soldiers — nik beizer and ron scherman, just 19 years old, and 28—year—old elia toledano, who had been taken by hamas from the supernova music festival. but some positive news on aid today — the israelis say they are reopening the border checkpoint at kerem shalom for aid to go through into gaza. this was video taken from southern israel on friday morning. the iron
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dome was forced into action again. but some positive news on aid today — the israelis say they are reopening the border checkpoint at kerem shalom for aid to go through into gaza. before the conflict, 60% of goods would transit through that checkpoint. the un had been pushing for it to be reopened — a decision welcomed by the white house national security adviserjake sullivan, who is visiting the region. mr sullivan, who met the palestinian president mahmoud abbas today, called it a "significant step". lieutenant coloneljonathan conricus, a spokesman for the israel defensive forces. joining us tonight. thank you very much for being with us. can we start with that rather upsetting news that we've had in the last hour or so that three hostages shot and killed by the idf in northern gaza after mistaking them as hamas fighters.
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what do you know about that operation?— what do you know about that 0 eration? , .., ., operation? yes, welll can add to our operation? yes, welll can add to your correct _ operation? yes, welll can add to your correct description - operation? yes, welll can add to your correct description of - operation? yes, welll can add to your correct description of the . operation? yes, well i can add to i your correct description of the very sad and tragic event. a third hostage that was mistakenly killed by israeli troops, his name has been approved for public release. he was also abducted on the 7th of october and his family has been notified and they have approved the release of his name, and the idf has express our deepest regret. we are investigating the matter. we have already issued the lessons and directives for our troops on the ground in order to minimise the chances of this happening again. of course, we will continue to operate relentlessly in order to defeat
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hamas, despite this horrible and sad event. we will not be deterred or delayed and we will continue to fight hamas until it is defeated and until security is returned to southern israel.— until security is returned to southern israel. i'm sure the details will _ southern israel. i'm sure the details will be _ southern israel. i'm sure the details will be subject - southern israel. i'm sure the details will be subject to - southern israel. i'm sure the details will be subject to an l details will be subject to an inquiry. is there any further information you can give us as to why they were mistaken for hamas fighters? were they in the vicinity? where they dressed in a palestinian way? was there any other explanation for why they were shot and killed? yes. there's actually two. one relates to the clothing. they were dressed in civilian clothing. probably enough similar fashion to hamas combatants or terrorists that have been fighting against troops all over the gaza strip. we've seen hamas fighters with rpg grenade
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launchers in their hands and ak—47s, dressed in civilian clothes. that adds complexity to the situational awareness of our troops. the second thing is that, before and after this tragic mistake occurred, there were clashes between troops in the area and combatants. that apparently was also part of the reasons for this very sad mistake, this misidentification by israeli soldiers. in misidentification by israeli soldiers. , ., ., soldiers. in terms of the other three bodies, _ soldiers. in terms of the other three bodies, the _ soldiers. in terms of the other three bodies, the way - soldiers. in terms of the other three bodies, the way it - soldiers. in terms of the other three bodies, the way it was l three bodies, the way it was reported was that special forces had gonein reported was that special forces had gone in and recovered them. does that suggest that hamas is keeping hold of these bodies and that they had to be taken back by force? they weren't dumped, they were being used as leverage. weren't dumped, they were being used as leveraue. , ., ., weren't dumped, they were being used as leverae. , ., ., ., weren't dumped, they were being used asleveraae. , ., ., ., as leverage. yes, all of our 132 remaining _ as leverage. yes, all of our 132 remaining hostages _ as leverage. yes, all of our 132 remaining hostages are - as leverage. yes, all of our 132 remaining hostages are being l as leverage. yes, all of our 132 - remaining hostages are being used as leverage, both those that are alive
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and those that we presume are dead. some we know for sure are taken, corpses of soldiers that were taken when they were already dead on october the 7th. many we fear are now dead because of various things that happened, how abuse and violence. we know that hamas cynically holds onto each and every israeli that they have, dead or alive, civilian or military, woman or man. we have 17 women still left in the hamas captivity, women and children. as i said, for the last 70 days, these 132 israelis are now in hamas captivity. it’s days, these 132 israelis are now in hamas captivity-— days, these 132 israelis are now in hamas captivity. it's more than two months, hamas captivity. it's more than two months. and _ hamas captivity. it's more than two months, and you're _ hamas captivity. it's more than two months, and you're still— hamas captivity. it's more than two months, and you're still not - hamas captivity. it's more than two months, and you're still not in - hamas captivity. it's more than two months, and you're still not in full. months, and you're still not in full control of northern gaza. another rocket came across the border today. there's been more intense fighting which which should this hamas still
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has control of its troops. are you talking weeks or months? yes. has control of its troops. are you talking weeks or months? yes, you are correct — talking weeks or months? yes, you are correct in _ talking weeks or months? yes, you are correct in what _ talking weeks or months? yes, you are correct in what you're _ talking weeks or months? yes, you are correct in what you're saying, i are correct in what you're saying, hamas still has control. they still have the ability to conduct some levels of operations. less so in the north, but most of —— more so in the south. we will continue to operate and upgrade our capabilities until they are totally disintegrated. that is our focus all over the gaza strip. i wouldn't want to put a time limit on our operations. i will say that we will operate as long as it takes and we will fight as long as we need to because we understand that our israeli civilians, more than 100,000 that have been forced out of their homes, back in the kibbutz, they have not yet come back to their homes and they will not go back to their homes until it's safe, and it will only be safe after hamas
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is dismantled and after capabilities are totally disintegrated. that is what we will do. in are totally disintegrated. that is what we will do.— are totally disintegrated. that is what we will do. in political terms, there's a lot _ what we will do. in political terms, there's a lot of _ what we will do. in political terms, there's a lot of talk _ what we will do. in political terms, there's a lot of talk at _ what we will do. in political terms, there's a lot of talk at the momentj there's a lot of talk at the moment about some of the daylight that's appearing between the israeli government and the way the white house wants this operation to run. president biden wants the idf to transition to a more targeted phase of the operation. but according to us intelligence, nearly half the munitions that israel has used have been unguided missiles, otherwise known as dumb bombs. how can you assure people you're taking the greatest care with civilian lives if you are dropping bombs that cannot be precise? that you are dropping bombs that cannot be recise? ., , ., ., , be precise? that is not really accurate- _ be precise? that is not really accurate. art _ be precise? that is not really accurate. art of _ be precise? that is not really accurate. art of what - be precise? that is not really accurate. art of what you're i be precise? that is not really - accurate. art of what you're saying is accurate, part of it isn't, and that report from cnn that was referencing us intelligence,
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anonymous sources that didn't state their names for their claims. but those claims aren't really accurate because they do not take into consideration add—on kits that are added to ordinary bombs in order to turn them into what one would lehman usually call smart bombs are accurate bombs. they are very large part of the weapons we have been using. i think we will have a an official explanation shortly for that so—called report where we will shed more light on it. but what i can say categorically, and we have been saying this from the beginning of the operation and we stand by it today — we distinguish between militant and noncombatant and combatants. we try to use the smallest available weapons in order to achieve a military objective, and we strike only when there is a necessity to strike. those are the
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guidelines that we continue to do today, and i use a very sad israeli example to shared some light on how cautious we are in using fires. there was a sad incident two days ago of ten israeli soldiers that unfortunately were killed in a hamas ambush inside a house. they were killed in an ambush and there were many claims inside israel by bereaved families and others who were there, "why don't you just carpet bomb everything there, why do have troops going into houses?" 0ur response was that we use military force where applicable and according to the mission, and in this case, it was a search mission where our troops went in and in order to find and understand what happened. we could have bombed the house from the beginning without going in, which would feed into those theories that
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you just reference. but we didn't. we search and on the ground because we applied for according to the mission. ., �* , we applied for according to the mission. ., �*, ,., .., , mission. that's some context behind the operation- _ mission. that's some context behind the operation. colonel— mission. that's some context behind the operation. colonel conricus, - the operation. colonel conricus, thank you for your time. hugo bachego is in jerusalem for us tonight. how are the families reacting to this news, that of the three hostages were killed by their own side? christian, we understand there is a march now in tel aviv and some relatives and families are marching to the headquarters of the idf. i was in tel aviv a few days ago talking to some relatives and friends of these hostages. more than 100 people remained in captivity in gaza. 0bviously, 100 people remained in captivity in gaza. obviously, there was always at the risk of that as the military
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goes ahead, that some of the captives could be killed by the israeli army. i think what makes this case more tragic is that this wasn't an air strike that destroyed a building, and these captives were killed. they were shot dead by soldiers on the ground who mistakingly identify them. tragic incident in the words of the israeli military. we had a statement from the prime minister, who described this as an unbearable tragedy and he vowed to return all hostages who remain in captivity in gaza, even at the cost of their lives. he described this as a sacred mission for the israeli military.— for the israeli military. hugo bachega. — for the israeli military. hugo bachega, thank _ for the israeli military. hugo bachega, thank you - for the israeli military. hugo bachega, thank you very - for the israeli military. hugo l bachega, thank you very much for the israeli military. hugo - bachega, thank you very much for that. john kirby says they agree with the israelis at that this conflict could go on for months, but they are discussing more operations in scope.
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you heard lieutenant conricus�*s views on that. short break, we'll be right back. hello. we've seen some drier weather developing over the past 24 hours or so, and many of us will hold on to the fairly quiet theme to the weather into the weekend, too. so, mostly dry, breezy and mild, often fairly cloudy, but the exception will be across the northwest of the uk, particularly northwest scotland, where we've got some really wet and pretty windy weather on the cards. so, high pressure holds on to the south, keeping things mostly dry, but these weather fronts moving in at times through the weekend across the far north of the uk will be quite persistent as they produce that heavy rainfall. now, for friday evening, overnight into saturday, a lot of cloud across the board generally. some light rain and drizzle for the west of scotland. we'll see a few clear spells here in there further south, but i think enough of a breeze, enough cloud to keep things well and truly frost—free. so, temperatures in the south between about 4—8 celsius, but we're staying in double figures
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for parts of scotland and northern ireland, with the wind and the cloud — and the winds are coming in from a very mild south—westerly direction. importing this mild air, you can see the orange colors across the map — blue colours, colder air to the north there and where those two air masses meet, that's where we've got this frontal system, which will be a bit of a troublemaker in the far northwest. so, saturday, that rain becomes quite persistent across the northwestern parts of highland, into parts of the western isles, the northern isles also seeing some rain. one or two splashes of rain for the likes of the cumbrian fells, perhaps northern ireland, but further south and east, we're going to be staying at dry. a bit milder than it was on friday — temperatures in double figures across the board. but then, as we move through saturday night into sunday, that rainfall continues to pile in. we could see up to about 175 millimetres of rain falling across parts of highland, towards argyll and bute. and the met office have issued an amber weather warning for that heavy rain, which is likely to cause some flooding problems across the region. so, moving through sunday, then, it's looking drier further south, but a bit of rain for northern
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england, northern ireland. should be dry too for the east of scotland and mild — 14 there for aberdeen, around about 11 in london. into the new week and for monday, then, that weather front slips its way further south. it's quite a weak affair, so tending to fizzle out, but it will bring a fair amount of cloud once again, a few showers around as well. and then, further ahead, a pretty wet day for many of us, especially in the south on tuesday. stays reasonably mild and unsettled, though, through the course of next week. bye for now.
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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. donald tusk is back as the new polish prime minister. we will hear from his new foreign minister. first, a full round—up from the bbc sport centre. hello from the bbc sport centre. the english premier league weekend has started at nottingham forest's city ground with spurs hoping to move to within four points of leaders liverpool. erling haaland could miss manchester city's first ever appearance at the club world cup because of a foot injury that the game is paused for injury but
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