hello, i'm christian fraser. this is the context on bbc news. a major military aid package for ukraine is stalled in the us congress, now efforts in brussels to send funds to ukraine have been vetoed by hungary. so how long can ukraine resist without the west's support? and what is the cost to nato of not supplying the ukrainians? our panel tonight — founder and president of the eurasia group ian bremmer, and former first minister of wales professor carwyn jones. the us national security adviser jake sullivan in ramallah today, with major difference emerging between israel and the white house, over future control of gaza. and should we ban 16—year—olds from looking at social media, or do we need much tighter control of what the tech companies are directing to them?

good evening. there are 600,000 russian troops in ukraine. they are firing seven shells for every one the ukrainians can fire in return. yesterday, the russian president said they he continue to wage war until all the kremlin objectives are met. —— he will continue. compare that with the statement from president biden on tuesday, who said america will continue to fund ukraine "as long as we can". but there is no sign the 60 billion aid budget will be passed by congress this side of christmas, if at all. and in europe, similar problems. here's the european commission president ursula von der lyon. we are working very hard, of course, to have a result where there is an agreement of 27 member states. but i think it is now also necessary to work on potential alternatives to have an operational solution

in case of an agreement of 27, so unanimity is not possible. ms von der lyon handed hungary over ?10 billion in frozen funds this week, but still only got part of what she wanted. viktor 0rban, a know putin ally, did leave a know putin ally, did leave the room rather than block ukraine's path to future eu membership. but he will only lift his veto on ukraine aid if brussels hands over the rest of hungary's money which commission has frozen — amounting to 30 billion euros. translation: hungary there is no responsibility for this. _ we can halt this process later on, and if needed, we will pull the brakes. and the ultimate decision will be made by hungarian parliament. —— bears no responsibility. the cracks are there and president putin is rubbing his hands in anticipation. emboldened by recent gains, however small those might be, there is now every reason to believe that us resolve is weakening. that us resolve is weakening and that soon, western freebies, as he refers to them, will dry up.

the institute for the study of war has just published a report on what the cost of allowing russia to win would be. and their conclusion is that washington has a much higher stake in this conflict, than house republicans would care to acknowledge. kateryna stepanenko, is the russia deputy team lead and analyst at the institute for the study of war, and co—authored that report. good to have you on the programme this evening. for nearly two years, we have paused on the logistical weaknesses which setback the event so badly, but they're learning. if they were to win, there would be a victorious army on the border of poland and eastern europe. what would that mean?— poland and eastern europe. what would that mean? thank you so much for havin: would that mean? thank you so much for having me — would that mean? thank you so much for having me on _ would that mean? thank you so much for having me on the _ would that mean? thank you so much for having me on the show. _ would that mean? thank you so much for having me on the show. i - would that mean? thank you so much for having me on the show. i think - for having me on the show. i think that our project yesterday was to highlight that russia is going... has the capacity if it wins to place

troops from the black sea all the way to the arctic ocean, and also would require significant measures for nato to counteract any potential threats from russia. so, this is obviously... russia is learning in this war, russia is becoming a lot more experienced. it's clearly growing its military and trying to improve its ability to recruit additional forces. improve its ability to recruit additionalforces. it is improve its ability to recruit additional forces. it is also trying to battle with some of the economic issues that it had suffered through the beginning of this war by circumnavigating some of the sanctions. all these factors will play a role in creating a hypothetical russia that could be a renewed threat to nato in a conventional sense. politically at

home, conventional sense. politically at home. were _ conventional sense. politically at home. were he _ conventional sense. politically at home, were he to _ conventional sense. politically at home, were he to take _ conventional sense. politically at home, were he to take back- conventional sense. politically at - home, were he to take back ukraine, given what he set up in the past about taking territory back, would there be a renewed appetite to keep going? {iii there be a renewed appetite to keep oiiin ? . ., , there be a renewed appetite to keep iioin? , . ., , going? of course. putin clearly indicated throughout _ going? of course. putin clearly indicated throughout these - going? of course. putin clearlyi indicated throughout these two years, as well as prior to the start of this invasion, that he is interested in taking ukraine, also belarus, and reestablishing it as some sort of russian ethnic group, the ethnic russian nation. for occupation and military reasons, we should not allow russia to win. let's bring in our panel. ian, if this were to happen — and there are reports that with the us, with the lines to break, this could be a real problem — the us would have to respond presuming it is still in nato. that might mean

sending tactical bombers to eastern europe, redeploying military capability to eastern europe, at the expense of what it's trying to do in the asia—pacific region. expense of what it's trying to do in the asia-pacific region.— the asia-pacific region. defence of nato is the asia-pacific region. defence of nate is core _ the asia-pacific region. defence of nato is core to _ the asia-pacific region. defence of nato is core to american _ the asia-pacific region. defence of nato is core to american national. nato is core to american national security, — nato is core to american national security, and ukraine on the other hand _ security, and ukraine on the other hand is_ security, and ukraine on the other hand is still— security, and ukraine on the other hand is still an open question. biden— hand is still an open question. biden has_ hand is still an open question. biden has already shifted from as lon- biden has already shifted from as long as _ biden has already shifted from as long as it— biden has already shifted from as long as it takes, as much is required _ long as it takes, as much is required to as much as we can. let's be clear. _ required to as much as we can. let's be clear. in— required to as much as we can. let's be clear. in an— required to as much as we can. let's be clear, in an election year, that already— be clear, in an election year, that already looks like a vulnerability. biden_ already looks like a vulnerability. biden is— already looks like a vulnerability. biden is getting hurt on foreign—policy right now and ukraine is a big _ foreign—policy right now and ukraine is a big part — foreign—policy right now and ukraine is a big part of that because it looks— is a big part of that because it looks like _ is a big part of that because it looks like he's not able to make good _ looks like he's not able to make good on — looks like he's not able to make good on his commitments with nato allies— good on his commitments with nato allies together to the ukrainian people — allies together to the ukrainian people. it's also looking more problematic that the europeans will be able _ problematic that the europeans will he able to— problematic that the europeans will be able to continue because of the german— be able to continue because of the german budget crisis. zelensky's had

a horrible _ german budget crisis. zelensky's had a horrible two months, and because after his— a horrible two months, and because after his counteroffensive failed, the middle east is what everyone's asking _ the middle east is what everyone's asking about. this is the first show i've asking about. this is the first show i've been_ asking about. this is the first show i've been on— asking about. this is the first show i've been on where the first russians— i've been on where the first russians were about ukraine as opposed — russians were about ukraine as opposed to the middle east. biden is dealing _ opposed to the middle east. biden is dealing with it. | opposed to the middle east. biden is dealing with it.— dealing with it. i want to play you u . dealing with it. i want to play you u- click dealing with it. i want to play you rip click of — the new polish minister. until a few days ago, i was the head of the delegations — few days ago, i was the head of the delegations between _ few days ago, i was the head of the delegations between the _ few days ago, i was the head of the delegations between the europeanl delegations between the european union _ delegations between the european union and — delegations between the european union and the _ delegations between the european union and the united _ delegations between the european union and the united states. - delegations between the european union and the united states. in. delegations between the european. union and the united states. in that capacity. _ union and the united states. in that capacity. i— union and the united states. in that capacity. iwas— union and the united states. in that capacity. i was in— union and the united states. in that capacity, i was in washington - capacity, i was in washington talking — capacity, i was in washington talking to _ capacity, i was in washington talking to congressman - capacity, i was in washington talking to congressman and i capacity, i was in washington - talking to congressman and senators from both— talking to congressman and senators from both parties. _ talking to congressman and senators from both parties. the _ talking to congressman and senators from both parties. the republicans l from both parties. the republicans said they— from both parties. the republicans said they want _ from both parties. the republicans said they want to _ from both parties. the republicans said they want to help _ from both parties. the republicans said they want to help ukraine, - from both parties. the republicansl said they want to help ukraine, they 'ust said they want to help ukraine, they just need _ said they want to help ukraine, they just need a — said they want to help ukraine, they just need a concession— said they want to help ukraine, they just need a concession from - said they want to help ukraine, they just need a concession from the - just need a concession from the administration _ just need a concession from the administration on _ just need a concession from the

administration on protecting - just need a concession from the| administration on protecting the just need a concession from the - administration on protecting the us southern _ administration on protecting the us southern border. _ administration on protecting the us southern border. as— administration on protecting the us southern border. as you _ administration on protecting the us southern border. as you know, - southern border. as you know, president — southern border. as you know, president zelensky_ southern border. as you know, president zelensky met - southern border. as you know, i president zelensky met president biden at— president zelensky met president biden at the — president zelensky met president biden at the white _ president zelensky met president biden at the white house, - president zelensky met president. biden at the white house, appealed to congress — biden at the white house, appealed to congress i— biden at the white house, appealed to congress. i hope _ biden at the white house, appealed to congress. i hope that _ biden at the white house, appealed to congress. i hope that appeal- biden at the white house, appealed to congress. i hope that appeal is l to congress. i hope that appeal is listened _ to congress. i hope that appeal is listened to — to congress. i hope that appeal is listened to. time _ to congress. i hope that appeal is listened to. time is _ to congress. i hope that appeal is listened to. time is running - to congress. i hope that appeal is listened to. time is running out. i listened to. time is running out. it's listened to. time is running out. it's very— listened to. time is running out. it's very urgent _ listened to. time is running out. it's very urgent. but _ listened to. time is running out. it's very urgent. but i _ listened to. time is running out. it's very urgent. but i think- it's very urgent. but i think america _ it's very urgent. but i think america will— it's very urgent. but i think america will come - it's very urgent. but i thinkl america will come through, it's very urgent. but i think. america will come through, as it's very urgent. but i think- america will come through, as it has in this— america will come through, as it has in this emergency _ america will come through, as it has in this emergency. the _ america will come through, as it has in this emergency.— in this emergency. the trouble is that, as in this emergency. the trouble is that. as we _ in this emergency. the trouble is that, as we know, _ in this emergency. the trouble is that, as we know, vladimir- in this emergency. the trouble is that, as we know, vladimir putini in this emergency. the trouble is - that, as we know, vladimir putin has in a normal —— and a normal tolerance —— enormous tolerance. he's willing to send houses of troops to die. maybe indefinitely so. the us and europe have a choice, either to invest in ukraine or invest billions strengthening nato's eastern flank.— eastern flank. well, in an autocracy. _ eastern flank. well, in an autocracy, people - eastern flank. well, in an autocracy, people are - eastern flank. well, in an i autocracy, people are simply eastern flank. well, in an - autocracy, people are simply cogs eastern flank. well, in an _ autocracy, people are simply cogs in autocracy, people are simply cogs in a machine. that's all they're seen as. that's why they can sometimes

sustain wars for longer. let's be clear here, america's eastern order is in ukraine. victory for russia and china if ukraine falls. china is behind russia. face it. it doesn't work. it led to pearl harbor in the 19405. work. it led to pearl harbor in the 1940s. america is a huge player in the world. i think the big concern is we'll get to a position that might hopefully that will play through over the next month or so. the real problem is if there is a trump presidency, the question i would ask is can countries rely on america if trump is president? i think that is a big unanswered question. think that is a big unanswered iuestion. �* ., , , , ., ,, think that is a big unanswered iuestion. �* ., , ,, , question. but the house speaker is sa ini question. but the house speaker is saying eur0pe _ question. but the house speaker is saying europe need _ question. but the house speaker is saying europe need to _ question. but the house speaker is saying europe need to look- question. but the house speaker is saying europe need to look after. saying europe need to look after itself. the point ijust made to the

polish foreign minister, they're the only country that seems to be investing or even thinking about being on a warfooting. i investing or even thinking about being on a war footing. i entirely airee being on a war footing. i entirely agree with _ being on a war footing. i entirely agree with the _ being on a war footing. i entirely agree with the point _ being on a war footing. i entirely agree with the point that - being on a war footing. i entirely l agree with the point that european countries should increase their defence spending. there's one thing thatis defence spending. there's one thing that is fair. you can't rely on america for absolutely everything, but the reality is america is by far the strongest member of nato. say for example that putin decides to attack baltic states. then it's usually important that nato comes to the aid of that optics take —— baltic state. i hope that would be the case, but that's the real test. i think what putin is banking on is america's will will falter in terms of working in nato at all. boudin said this is a long game. it's not a democracy. it's not the way russia

worse. he's willing to play a waiting game. make no mistake, if russia is victorious in ukraine, they will be needed to bolster nato's eastern borders. there's no getting away from that. either it's fought an hour over the next decade. fascinating that the head of the german armed forces said the military is not in position to defend the country. they are the economic powerhouse, just never invested in any defensive capability. kateryna, i see you're in washington. i don't know if you are there when president zelensky was there. i talked about american intelligence of what might happen in the spring and the summer. have you been able to plot what would happen where the money not to come? yes. i personally have _ where the money not to come? yes. i personally have not _ where the money not to come? yes. i personally have not attended - where the money not to come? yes. i personally have not attended that - personally have not attended that meeting. however, we are looking at

the potential of the discussion that russia would deploy additional forces to the border, that it would use its air defence systems to deploy to the nato border, and would make it a lot harderfor the us and the west to sustain its air defence systems as well as take away from the measures that are needed to defend our allies such as hi juan, for example —— taiwan. that is our focus in the latest report. ldistill focus in the latest report. will likely that _ focus in the latest report. will likely that they _ focus in the latest report. will likely that they are. kateryna, thank you very much for coming on the programme. let'sjust thank you very much for coming on the programme. let's just turn to events in the middle east. let me show you some live pictures. these are photos from tel aviv tonight

where families of hostages are protesting. three of the hostages were shot dead by the idf. idf expressing deep regret on this programme about what happened. they were addressed as palestinians, they were addressed as palestinians, they were dressed in civilian clothes, but certainly not the news that families in tel aviv were hoping for and dreaded coming amid the sort of scenes in gaza. aside from the... president biden's national security adviser, jake sullivan, is in the middle east and today was playing down differences between the united states and israel over the war in gaza, and crucially the timing of any ceasefire. the biden administration wants israel to end the large—scale air offensive within weeks, moving to more targeted operations against hamas. yesterday, the israeli defence minister yoav gallant suggested the operation could continue for months. but mr sullivan said the timing and the conditions under which that transition happens were the subject of continuing conversations. this fight against hamas, a deeply entrenched terrorist group

in gaza, is going to take time and it's going to happen in phases. we've said that from the beginning. and so there's no contradiction between saying the fight is going to take months and also saying that different phases will take place at different times over those months, including the transition from the high—intensity operations to more targeted operations. weeks or months? i put that to the idf spokesman lieutenant coloneljonathan conricus. hamas still has command and control, they still have the ability to conduct some levels of operations — less so in the north, but still, more so in the south. we will continue to operate and degrade their military capabilities until they are totally disintegrated, that is our focus, all over the gaza strip. and i wouldn't want to put a time limit on our operations. i will say that we will operate as long as it takes.

ian bremmer, the united states announced that it was not going to send around 20,000 rifles to israel because it was concerned they would pass from the hands from the israeli police to the hands of settlers. they've conditioned that aid. if they can't get any assurances on this visit from the israelis that the white house is looking for, should they begin to think about conditioning the other supplies? they don't want to do that. biden is very conscious of the fact that he has seen — very conscious of the fact that he has seen as— very conscious of the fact that he has seen as israel's talk protector globally. — has seen as israel's talk protector globally. a — has seen as israel's talk protector globally, a leader that is very unpopular in israel, never mind around — unpopular in israel, never mind around the _ unpopular in israel, never mind around the world. and it is not going — around the world. and it is not going well. this position is more isolated — going well. this position is more isolated than russia's was when they first invaded ukraine. biden is trying — first invaded ukraine. biden is trying to— first invaded ukraine. biden is trying to find a way to end the war, or at—

trying to find a way to end the war, or at least— trying to find a way to end the war, or at least end the extraordinary number— or at least end the extraordinary number of— or at least end the extraordinary number of palestinians salieu billion— number of palestinians salieu billion casualties every day and get more _ billion casualties every day and get more aid — billion casualties every day and get more aid -- — billion casualties every day and get more aid. —— civilian casualties. he's_ more aid. —— civilian casualties. he's not— more aid. —— civilian casualties. he's not a — more aid. —— civilian casualties. he's not a fan— more aid. —— civilian casualties. he's not a fan of netanyahu. when you go— he's not a fan of netanyahu. when you go back— he's not a fan of netanyahu. when you go back to 2015 when 0bama and biden— you go back to 2015 when 0bama and biden tried _ you go back to 2015 when 0bama and biden tried to pass the nuclear deal. — biden tried to pass the nuclear deal. and _ biden tried to pass the nuclear deal, and netanyahu went to the united _ deal, and netanyahu went to the united states and addressed a joint session— united states and addressed a joint session of— united states and addressed a joint session of congress trying to to torpedo— session of congress trying to to torpedo the deal. biden doesn't play hardball— torpedo the deal. biden doesn't play hardball that way, but increasingly, that's— hardball that way, but increasingly, that's what — hardball that way, but increasingly, that's what his advisers are telling him he _ that's what his advisers are telling him he should do, that he needs to throw— him he should do, that he needs to throw netanyahu under the bus until the people, "we're your best friend, this guy— the people, "we're your best friend, this guy is _ the people, "we're your best friend, this guy is destroying your national security. _ this guy is destroying your national security, he's responsible for october— security, he's responsible for october the 7th and he's responsible for what's _ october the 7th and he's responsible for what's happening now." biden needs— for what's happening now." biden needs to — for what's happening now." biden needs to take some interviews with the jerusalem post. needs to take some interviews with thejerusalem post. he needs needs to take some interviews with the jerusalem post. he needs to meet with some _ the jerusalem post. he needs to meet with some of the families of the

hostages — with some of the families of the hostages. biden should do that, but he shouldn't be doing that as netanyahu's best friend, because netanyahu's best friend, because netanyahu's days are numbered and he's netanyahu's days are numbered and has likely— netanyahu's days are numbered and he's likely to end up in prison after— he's likely to end up in prison after fees _ he's likely to end up in prison after fees forced out of power the corruption — after fees forced out of power the corruption cases. a really challenging position for biden to go in, challenging position for biden to go in. and _ challenging position for biden to go in, and he's also going to get hurt significantly in the electoral cycle on the _ significantly in the electoral cycle on the basis. significantly in the electoral cycle on the basis-— on the basis. that's really interesting. _ on the basis. that's really interesting. carwyn, - on the basis. that's really interesting. carwyn, in i on the basis. that's really . interesting. carwyn, in terms on the basis. that's really - interesting. carwyn, in terms of what the israelis are hearing and seeing, jeremy bowen was telling us today that it is wall—to—wall, the operation in gaza and they say they're making process know my progress. —— they're making progress. —— they're making progress. there is still a mass command and control structure there. now this news of the three hostages being killed. as ian suggests, it's not going that well for the israelis. ~ , , ., ,

israelis. well, the idf is a hugely ca able israelis. well, the idf is a hugely capable and _ israelis. well, the idf is a hugely capable and powerful— israelis. well, the idf is a hugely capable and powerful military - israelis. well, the idf is a hugely| capable and powerful military unit and eventually, it will achieve whatever objectives it has. the problem is that we're talking about two armies that sit either side of the front line. hamas is intertwined in the population. it's got its infrastructure hidden in these buildings. it's not easy to flush hamas out without causing up on enormous amounts of civilian casualties. people would like to see peace coming back to gaza. how that's achieved is more difficult. what hamas keep to a cease fire if one would be put on the table? nobody knows. i think this was a difficult position. president biden is in a position where he wants to support the israeli state, the existence of israel without supporting the government. that's

not an easy diplomatic tightrope to walk. , , . ., , not an easy diplomatic tightrope to walk. ,, .., , ., ., not an easy diplomatic tightrope to walk. , , . ., , ., ., ., coming up, we will talk about a damaging day for the newspapers industry here in britain. the high court rules that prince harry was the victim of phone hacking by mirror group newspapers. and a new album from kanye west that is causing controversy in the united states. stay with us. you're watching bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news in the uk. there's been an alarming rise in the number of very young children in scotland escaping from nursery school care. in the past year, two children a week, on average, disappeared eitherfrom nursery, or while on trips. a nursery trade association says its members were taking the issue seriously and cited staffing pressures, with a greater number of inexperienced staff. households face paying more for their energy bills to help suppliers recover nearly three—billion pounds in debts, from customers who can't pay their bills. ofgem is proposing lifting

the energy price cap by £16 from april. french officials say british teen alex batty, who was found after going missing for six years, decided to leave his mother because she wanted to move to finland. the now—i7—year—old disappeared in 2017. he was found by a motorist in southern france thursday. the officials say he should be able to return to the uk on saturday, or sunday at the latest. you're live with bbc news. just some breaking news to bring you from the united states. there's been a verdict in the civil trial that rudyjulia he was facing for defaming georgia election workers. rudy giuliani was rule to pay a

total of $148 million for false accusations against election workers. ian bremmer, can i quickly get your reaction? we remember the sort of rumours he was circulating at the time about what election workers would do. he was suggesting they were passing notes to one another. we heard at the january the 6th inquiry, a mother and daughter who had been put under enormous pressure because of what he'd said. $148 million, what do you make? it’s $148 million, what do you make? it's an eye—watering number, but what we've _ an eye—watering number, but what we've seen— an eye—watering number, but what we've seen is the independent judiciary— we've seen is the independent judiciary in the united states actually— judiciary in the united states actually works, and it works whether actually works, and it works whether a conservative was the one that appointed — a conservative was the one that appointed the justice or whether a liberal— appointed the justice or whether a liberal was. appointed the justice or whether a liberalwas. every appointed the justice or whether a liberal was. every case, appointed the justice or whether a liberalwas. every case, both liberal was. every case, both that trump _ liberal was. every case, both that trump was — liberal was. every case, both that trump was trying to fight to show if the elections were somehow being

mishandled or fraudulent, as well as every— mishandled or fraudulent, as well as every case _ mishandled or fraudulent, as well as every case that has been brought up table sense about those who try to offer you _ table sense about those who try to offer you skate the outcomes, the companies — offer you skate the outcomes, the companies involved, the immediate, the lawyers — everyone of have gone against _ the lawyers — everyone of have gone against those who try to interfere. this is— against those who try to interfere. this is the — against those who try to interfere. this is the latest consequence of that _ this is the latest consequence of that i'm — this is the latest consequence of that. i'm surprised by the headline number. _ that. i'm surprised by the headline number, honestly. it seems to send a message _ number, honestly. it seems to send a message not— number, honestly. it seems to send a message notjust to number, honestly. it seems to send a message not just to reflect actual punitive _ message not just to reflect actual punitive damages. sometimesjuries punitive damages. sometimes juries do that _ punitive damages. sometimesjuries do that. but there's no question this is— do that. but there's no question this is broadly aligned with where the judiciary has been.— this is broadly aligned with where the judiciary has been. the 'udiciary has been. yeah, it is an the judiciary has been. yeah, it is an extraordinary _ the judiciary has been. yeah, it is an extraordinary number. - the judiciary has been. yeah, it is an extraordinary number. and - the judiciary has been. yeah, it is an extraordinary number. and an i an extraordinary number. and an extraordinary fall from grace from someone who was so widely respected. that is really sad. it is someone who was so widely respected. that is really sad.— that is really sad. it is really sad to see that- _ that is really sad. it is really sad to see that. he _ that is really sad. it is really sad to see that. he was _ that is really sad. it is really sad to see that. he was struggling . that is really sad. it is really sad | to see that. he was struggling to pay his legal bills. the legal work he had done for donald trump hadn't been paid for either. let's talk

about phone hacking. "i've been told that slaying dragons will get you burnt, _ "but in light of today's victory and the importance of doing i "what is needed for a free and honest press, - "it is a worthwhile price to pay. "the mission continues." prince harry lawyer david sherborne today outside the high court in london where a judge ruled that for a period of six years from 2003 to 2009 the prince's phone was hacked by mirror group investigators. almost half of 33 sample articles prince harry submitted were the product of unlawful information gathering. prince harry was one of four litigants that received judgments today. he was awarded just over £140,000 — about a third of what he had claimed — but the for him money — but for him, money was never the point — it was his long—running quest to prove in court the wrongdoing

of newspapers and the senior executives that ran them. the judge said 11 private investigators were used "very substa ntially" by mirror group well before 2003. the chief executive sly bailey knew about it said the judge and "turned a blind eye to it" as did legal director paul vickers. and there can be "no doubt" he said that piers morgan who was editor for some of those years knew about it, too — a judgment morgan has vociferously denied. i'v e i've never hacked a phone and nobody has... as for him saying this is "a good day for truth," the truth that has been repeatedly exposed in recent years as someone who wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him around his californian—tanned face. he demands accountability for the press, but refuses to accept any for himself for smearing the royal family, his own family, as a bunch of callous racists without producing a shred of proof to support those disgraceful claims. ca rwyn carwyn jones, he carwynjones, he gave me my first job, full disclosure. he was a very thorough and good editor.

i'm struggling to believe any tabloid editor wouldn't know whether best stories came from.— best stories came from. whatever he said was most _ best stories came from. whatever he said was most of— best stories came from. whatever he said was most of what. .. _ best stories came from. whatever he said was most of what. .. it _ best stories came from. whatever he said was most of what. .. it wasn't i said was most of what... it wasn't about the mirror case. it was diverting attention elsewhere. he said he hadn't ordered any hacking. what he didn't say was whether he was aware of such hacking having taken place. whether that was something he forgot to say, who knows? but it's clear the judges found in favour of prince harry. the judge listened to all the evidence, more than any of us. they will have come to those conclusions. of course piers morgan has the right to say what he has, but at the end of the day, the court has found on the basis of facts that it was a different way...

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band for 16—year—olds. should parents be able to find a data that their children have access to? stay with us. hello. we've seen some drier weather developing over the past 24 hours or so, and many of us will hold on to the fairly quiet theme to the weather into the weekend, too. so, mostly dry, breezy and mild, often fairly cloudy, but the exception will be across the northwest of the uk, particularly northwest scotland, where we've got some really wet and pretty windy weather on the cards. so, high pressure holds on to the south, keeping things mostly dry, but these weather fronts moving in at times through the weekend across the far north of the uk will be quite persistent as they produce that heavy rainfall. now, for friday evening, overnight into saturday, a lot of cloud across the board generally. some light rain and drizzle for the west of scotland. we'll see a few clear spells here in there further south, here and there further south, but i think enough of a breeze, enough cloud to keep things well and truly frost—free.

so, temperatures in the south between about 4—8 celsius, but we're staying in double figures for parts of scotland and northern ireland, with the wind and the cloud — and the winds are coming in from a very mild south—westerly direction. importing this mild air, you can see the orange colours across the map — blue colours, colder air to the north there and where those two air masses meet, that's where we've got this frontal system, which will be a bit of a troublemaker in the far northwest. so, saturday, that rain becomes quite persistent across the northwestern parts of highland, into parts of the western isles, the northern isles also seeing some rain. one or two splashes of rain for the likes of the cumbrian fells, perhaps northern ireland, but further south and east, we're going to be staying at dry. we're going to be staying dry. bit milder than it was on friday — temperatures in double figures across the board. but then, as we move through saturday night into sunday, that rainfall continues to pile in. we could see up to about 175 millimetres of rain falling across parts of highland, towards argyll and bute. and the met office have issued an amber weather warning for that heavy rain, which is likely to cause some flooding problems across the region. so, moving through sunday, then, it's looking drier further south, but a bit of rain for northern england, northern ireland.

should be dry too for the east of scotland and mild — 14 there for aberdeen, around about 11 in london. into the new week and for monday, then, that weather front slips its way further south. it's quite a weak affair, so tending to fizzle out, but it will bring a fair amount of cloud once again, a few showers around as well. and then, further ahead, a pretty wet day for many of us, especially in the south on tuesday. stays reasonably mild and unsettled, though, through the course of next week. bye for now.