tv Breakfast BBC News December 16, 2023 6:00am-9:01am GMT
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good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today: the israeli army says it's mistakenly killed three hostages during fighting in gaza. the country's prime minister called their deaths an "unbearable tragedy". friends actor matthew perry's death has been ruled as an accident, caused by the "acute effects of the drug ketamine". a british teenager who was found in france six years after he disappeared is expected to return home this weekend. good to return home this weekend. morning. spurred on towards the top four: to return home this weekend. tottenham revive their champions league ambitions after their rocky spell as they pile more misery on nottingham forest.
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i'm the doctor. the new doctor who, ncuti gatwa, tells us about the pressures of taking on such a high—profile role. it's 20 from the moment i wake up until the moment i go to bed with anxiety. good morning, for many of us are cloudy and mild today but there is rain in the forecast. i will bring you the full details throughout the programme. good morning. it's saturday the 16th of december. the israeli military says it's mistakenly killed three hostages in gaza, after they were misidentified as a "threat". protests took place in tel aviv following the killings, which are now under investigation. the men were abducted by hamas — designated a terror organisation by the uk — during its attack on southern israel in october. our middle east correspondent lucy williamson has this report. israel's army is in gaza to kill hamas fighters and bring hostages home.
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clear targets obliterated in the chaos of conflict. three of those shot dead in the northern district of shejaiya not hamas gunmen, but the captives israel came to save. one of them was yotam haim, 28 years old, a drummer with a heavy metal band, kidnapped from kibbutz kfar aza. his mother spoke to the bbc last month. they are talking about to release few here, few there. i know that they are playing with us, with our minds, with our hearts. we must hope. another of those killed was 25—year—old samer al—talalka, the eldest son of ten children from kfar hura, who worked with his father and brother in a hatchery and loved motorcycles. and alon shamriz, kidnapped from kfar aza.
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israel's army said yotam, samer and alon were mistakenly identified as a threat. prime minister benjamin netanyahu called it an "unbearable tragedy". israel's armed forces are once again bearing the weight of their failure to protect. translation: the idf mistakenly identified three kidnapped israelis| as a threat. the force fired at them and they were killed. after the shooting, an immediate suspicion arose about the identity of the dead and their bodies were quickly transferred for examination in israel and there, the hostages were identified. the torment expressed by the families of hostages has cut deeper tonight. already angry with israel's prime minister for not negotiating the release of more hostages, they also have his promise ringing in their ears that israel's military campaign in gaza would help bring their relatives home.
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lucy williamson, bbc news, jerusalem. let's get the latest now from our security correspondent frank gardner, who's injerusalem. good morning to you. the reaction to this, of course, horror has been expressed about the reaction particularly from those who have been campaigning to get their loved ones home? you saw from the protests there in lucy's piece that people are upset about it and hundreds gathered outside the ministry of defence in tel aviv and marched on the base. this goes much deeper than just this tragedy. what the military would call a blue on green. it's tragic in itself but it goes deeper than that because it goes right to the heart of the debate of what is the best way to get these hostages out? there is over 100 israeli hostages are still held in gaza, most of whom are thought to be alive, and many of the relatives, those who saw in those pictures, many of them say the best
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way out is by negotiation. we got over 100 out before. let's keep negotiating to get them out. but that's really difficult to do when there's a full—scale war happening in the war cabinet seems to think the best way to get them out is put military pressure on hamas which is not so far worked. they got one hostage, a junior israeli military person, mega dish, they managed to rescue her but they will be by negotiation. the head of mossad, he will shortly meet the prime minister to resume negotiations and this is a controversial topic because there are many on the hard right of the government here in israel who would say we shouldn't make negotiations or release any more palestinian prisoners —— megidish. we should put them under military pressure. it's
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not working in getting these hostages out.— not working in getting these hostaaes out. . ~ . ~' , ., not working in getting these hostaaesout. . ~ . hostages out. frank, thank you so much for your— hostages out. frank, thank you so much for your assessment. - hostages out. frank, thank you so much for your assessment. it's . hostages out. frank, thank you so | much for your assessment. it's five minutes past six. charlie, more details coming through after the sad news we had earlier this year of matthew perry's death? the death of friends actor matthew perry was an accident caused by the effects of ketamine, according to medical officials in los angeles. the 54—year—old was found unconscious in a hot tub at his house in october. shingai nyoka has the details. matthew perry, who was best known for playing chandler bing in the hit comedy series friends, was open about his struggles with addiction to painkillers and alcohol. a los angeles coroner has now ruled that his death was an accident caused by the acute effects of the drug called ketamine. now, ketamine is an anaesthetic, but it's also sometimes used as a recreational drug. according to the toxicology report, he had been taking ketamine infusion
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therapy for anxiety as well as depression, but that the amount that was found in his system at the time of death was really high and was similar to that needed for a general anaesthetic and would have caused problems with his breathing. the other contributing factors to his death include drowning, a coronary artery disease, as well as the effects of another drug that is used to treat opioid addiction. the 54—year—old actor was found in a hot tub unresponsive at his home in los angeles in october and a post—examination was inconclusive at the time. the metropolitan police says it will "carefully consider" the ruling that prince harry and others close to him were victims of phone hacking by mirror group newspapers. yesterday, a high courtjudge found the practice was "widespread and habitual" at the publisher's titles, and awarded the duke of sussex more than £1a0,000 in damages. prince harry is now calling for a criminal investigation to be reopened.
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donald trump's former personal lawyer has been ordered to pay more than £100 million in damages to two women he falsely accused of election fraud. rudy giuliani claimed the mother and daughter, who both worked at a polling station in georgia, had tampered with votes during the 2020 presidential election. the rac says petrol prices have dropped to the lowest level at the pump for more than two years because of falling wholesale costs. a litre of fuel costs an average of £1.43 — that's 10 pence cheaper than this time last year. a british teenager who was missing for six years is expected to fly home this weekend. alex batty disappeared while on a family holiday to spain with his mother and grandfather in 2017. french authorities said he fled his mother because she wanted to take him to finland. our correspondent simon jones has more.
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alex batty was 11 years old when he last saw his grandmother in oldham in 2017. but this weekend, they are set to be reunited after six years apart. susan caruana, who is alex's legal guardian, thought this they may never come. in a statement, she said: alex was found earlier this week on this road in southwest france after leaving the commune he had been living in. translation: when leaving the commune he had been living in. translation:— leaving the commune he had been living in. translation: when it was su . . ested living in. translation: when it was suggested that _ living in. translation: when it was suggested that she _ living in. translation: when it was suggested that she was _ living in. translation: when it was suggested that she was thinking - living in. translation: when it was suggested that she was thinking of i suggested that she was thinking of leaving for finland with him, this young man realise that it was time for this journey to come to an end and he decided to leave the place where he was staying with his mother and walk for four days and four
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nights. it and walk for four days and four niuhts. ., , and walk for four days and four nihts, .,, . ~' and walk for four days and four nihts. ::' and walk for four days and four niuhts. ::' ., nights. it was back in 2017 that alex disappeared _ nights. it was back in 2017 that alex disappeared with - nights. it was back in 2017 that alex disappeared with his - nights. it was back in 2017 that i alex disappeared with his mother nights. it was back in 2017 that - alex disappeared with his mother and grandfather, who were not his legal guardians. as grandfather is believed to have died six months ago. they had left oldham for a holiday in marbella on the 30th of september. alex was last seen the following month in malaga on the following month in malaga on the following day they were due to fly home but the next february alex's grandmother believed he had been taken by his mother to morocco to live with a spiritual community. french police say they could have been there for two years before moving to spain and then to france and living with a travelling community in the pyrenees mountains. this week he was found by a passing driver and take into ravel and then to loose and handed over to the police. experts say he will now need help to readjust to life in the uk. —— revel. help to read'ust to life in the uk. -- revel. ., ., , ., 4' -- revel. -- toulouse. iwould like to understand _ -- revel. -- toulouse. iwould like to understand his— -- revel. -- toulouse. iwould like to understand his story _ -- revel. -- toulouse. iwould like to understand his story and - -- revel. -- toulouse. iwould like to understand his story and how- -- revel. -- toulouse. iwould like to understand his story and how he| to understand his story and how he can move on from it and how we can
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build up skills to reintegrate him into society outside of the community. into society outside of the community-— into society outside of the communi . �* , , . ., into society outside of the communi .�* , , . ., ., community. alex is expected to leave toulouse for— community. alex is expected to leave toulouse for the _ community. alex is expected to leave toulouse for the uk _ community. alex is expected to leave toulouse for the uk later— community. alex is expected to leave toulouse for the uk later today - community. alex is expected to leave toulouse for the uk later today or- toulouse for the uk later today or tomorrow. the whereabouts of his mother remain unknown. simon jones, bbc news. our foreign correspondent bethany bell is in toulouse for us this morning. very good morning. on the one hand, it's very important that privacy of this young man is to be protected while this next stage goes through, and that's talk of him coming back to the uk, of course.— to the uk, of course. yes, and his famil , to the uk, of course. yes, and his family. his — to the uk, of course. yes, and his family, his grandmother - to the uk, of course. yes, and his family, his grandmother has - to the uk, of course. yes, and his- family, his grandmother has appealed for the family to be given privacy as they welcome him back home. we understand he will be travelling to the uk at some point over this weekend, that's what the french authorities have been telling us, and we've also been hearing a little bit more from the toulouse prosecutor in charge of the case. he said alex and his mother and
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grandfather seem to have been constantly on the move, first in morocco and then, the last couple of years or so moving around in the french pyrenees, which is an area known to be popular with people seeking alternative lifestyles. the authorities have said that they seemed to have moved around in what they call the small spiritual community, doing odd jobs and gardening, carrying around their own solar panels and then, it seems the crunch point for alex was when his mother told him she wanted to move to finland and he decided that that was enough for him. at least, that's what the french authorities have been telling us. they say they don't know where alex's mother is at the moment. the investigations are continuing. moment. the investigations are continuing-— moment. the investigations are continuinu. ., , . ' continuing. thank you very much. 12 minutes past _ continuing. thank you very much. 12 minutes past six. _ tv sports quiz show question
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of sport has been shelved after more than five decades. theme song plays the bbc said that "due to inflation and funding challenges, "difficult decisions have to be made" but insisted that there was a possibility that the programme could come back in the future. it was one of the most popular shows in the 19805 with princess anne's guest appearance in 1987 attracting its highest ever viewing figures of 19 million. we just wejust don't we just don't have figures like that anymore, do we? wow! 6:13. here's simon with a look at this morning's weather. got any big numbers to throw at us? big rainfall totals. it’s got any big numbers to throw at us? big rainfall totals.— big rainfall totals. it's been bad this month. _ big rainfall totals. it's been bad this month, hasn't _ big rainfall totals. it's been bad this month, hasn't it? - big rainfall totals. it's been bad this month, hasn't it? the - big rainfall totals. it's been bad this month, hasn't it? the high| big rainfall totals. it's been bad - this month, hasn't it? the high end of scotland — this month, hasn't it? the high end of scotland 200 _ this month, hasn't it? the high end of scotland 200 millimetres - this month, hasn't it? the high end of scotland 200 millimetres over i this month, hasn't it? the high end. of scotland 200 millimetres over the next couple of days could cause some
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problems but more details on that in a moment. starting with a picture of the aurora from last night. a fairly weak one but still pretty nice this morning. for many, this weekend will be dry but a lot of cloud around and it's going to be mild. temperatures will be in double figures. it's the north—west of scotland you can see this area of rain. it stalls to the north which will give us a lot of rainfall. visually moving further south towards southern areas it will stay dry but the rainfall totals 75— 200 millimetres. there is actually an amberwarning 200 millimetres. there is actually an amber warning from the met office in highland scotland. we could see flooding and disruption in the next couple of days. the milder air is coming in from the southwesterly direction and you can see all of us under the influence of those conditions and temperatures will be in double figures. through this morning the rain eventually moves into the far north north—west of
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scotland and the breeze picking up across the northern areas. lots of clout and maybe drizzle around the coast of wales in south west england. to the east of high ground, possibly some brightness developing with some cloud breaks and temperatures of about 11—13. tonight, the rain continues. look at those bright colours indicative of the heavy rain. elsewhere, a lot of cloud about. a few breaks developing but those are your overnight temperatures, about 9—11. the more typical, really, for daytime temperatures at this time of year. as we go through sunday it's a very similar pick with the rain continuing across scotland and may be moving further south and into southern scotland but elsewhere, perhaps a greater chance of seeing the cloud breaking up more so some sunny spells into sunday afternoon but again, the mild weather continues for many, 10— 13 degrees. how about next week? the to
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christmas. through monday you can see the weather front is moving in and a deep area of low pressure moving in for tuesday, ringing heavy rain, and a north—westerly wind then which will bring slightly cooler air and the chance of one or two wintry showers. that's how your outlook is looking, pretty unsettled with temperatures dipping a little bit. then it will start to turn more mild again into next week and let's have again into next week and let's have a quick look at christmas day because this can change but a brief heads up because everyone is asking me will it be a white christmas? the cold air is likely to be to the north and milder air to the south and when you have this boundary across the uk, that's when it will be tricky to decipher whether or not we will see snow. there is a possibility at the moment across scotland but for most of us, pretty mild. ., , scotland but for most of us, pretty mild. . , ., ., , mild. that is not answering the cuestion! mild. that is not answering the question! it — mild. that is not answering the question! it is _ mild. that is not answering the question! it is not _ mild. that is not answering the question! it is not but - mild. that is not answering the question! it is not but i'm - question! it is not but i'm exolaining _ question! it is not but i'm explaining why _ question! it is not but i'm explaining why i - question! it is not but i'm explaining why i cannot. l question! it is not but i'm i explaining why i cannot. can question! it is not but i'm - explaining why i cannot. can you question! it is not but i'm _ explaining why i cannot. can you not sa 'ust in explaining why i cannot. can you not sayjust in the _ explaining why i cannot. can you not sayjust in the north, _ explaining why i cannot. can you not sayjust in the north, can _ explaining why i cannot. can you not sayjust in the north, can you - explaining why i cannot. can you not sayjust in the north, can you not. sayjust in the north, can you not to say in the north there will definitely be snow because you have
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that cold air up there?— that cold air up there? potential but this is still _ that cold air up there? potential but this is still nine _ that cold air up there? potential but this is still nine days - that cold air up there? potential but this is still nine days away i that cold air up there? potential| but this is still nine days away so the milder could be further north or cold air be further south. {as cold air be further south. go on, sa it. cold air be further south. go on, say it- say _ cold air be further south. go on, say it- say that _ cold air be further south. go on, say it. say that there _ cold air be further south. go on, say it. say that there will - cold air be further south. go on, say it. say that there will be - cold air be further south. go on, i say it. say that there will be snow, simon! fist say it. say that there will be snow, simon! �* ., , , simon! at the moment probably the scottish highlands. _ simon! at the moment probably the scottish highlands. so _ simon! at the moment probably the scottish highlands. so yes! - simon! at the moment probably the scottish highlands. so yes! simon, | scottish highlands. so yes! simon, thank ou. 17 minutes past six is the time now. nearly 2,000 illegal vapes — many up to six times stronger than the legal limit — have been seized from shops in greater manchester. a team led by police officers and trading standards has been established to tackle underage vaping and child exploitation. our correspondent abbiejones was given exclusive access to the operation. 330 in the afternoon are children are hanging out after school. some of them, primary school age, are openly vaping. we can't show their faces because of how young they are.
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then we meet this teenager, she turned 18 last month but has been vaping since she was 16. she says her age has never stopped her. you can no her age has never stopped her. you can go into — her age has never stopped her. you can go into an _ her age has never stopped her. ml, can go into an easter her age has never stopped her. 7m, can go into an easter shop and they will serve you. very easy, 10—year—olds can go in and they will serve you. i've never once been asked for an id.— serve you. i've never once been asked for an id. she shows me a social media _ asked for an id. she shows me a social media site _ asked for an id. she shows me a social media site where - asked for an id. she shows me a social media site where vapes i asked for an id. she shows me a. social media site where vapes can asked for an id. she shows me a - social media site where vapes can be ordered online to your door. you social media site where vapes can be ordered online to your door.- ordered online to your door. you can 'ust ordered online to your door. you can just message — ordered online to your door. you can just message them, _ ordered online to your door. you can just message them, ask— ordered online to your door. you can just message them, ask them - ordered online to your door. you can just message them, ask them to - ordered online to your door. you can | just message them, ask them to drop them off, and then willjust bring it to you. them off, and then will 'ust bring it to ou. , , them off, and then will 'ust bring itto ou. , , . it to you. this is the police tradin: it to you. this is the police trading standards - it to you. this is the police | trading standards services, leading the way nationally and tackling child exploitation, tonight it is targeting stop selling babes to children. £30 targeting stop selling babes to children. ., , .,, targeting stop selling babes to children. ., , ., children. go into the shop, trained b a children. go into the shop, trained by a vapes- _ children. go into the shop, trained by a vapes- the — children. go into the shop, trained by a vapes. the teenage _ children. go into the shop, trained by a vapes. the teenage testers i children. go into the shop, trained. by a vapes. the teenage testers are sent into the _ by a vapes. the teenage testers are sent into the store, _ by a vapes. the teenage testers are sent into the store, and _ by a vapes. the teenage testers are sent into the store, and minutes . sent into the store, and minutes later they are back with a vapes. ihla
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later they are back with a vapes. no wa later they are back with a vapes. lit? way de. later they are back with a vapes. no way de- that _ later they are back with a vapes. no way de. that seemed _ later they are back with a vapes. no way de. that seemed frighteningly i way de. that seemed frighteningly eas . way de. that seemed frighteningly easy- that's _ way de. that seemed frighteningly easy. that's the _ way de. that seemed frighteningly easy. that's the biggest _ way de. that seemed frighteningly easy. that's the biggest risk, - way de. that seemed frighteningly easy. that's the biggest risk, you | easy. that's the biggest risk, you have 14, 13-year-old _ easy. that's the biggest risk, you have 14, 13-year-old children - easy. that's the biggest risk, you have 14, 13-year-old children to i have 14, 13—year—old children to go into a shop get vapes. lots of shops out of these underage children. aha, out of these underage children. a short drive away, the teenage tester does get another sale. the team are also looking for illegal vapes, superstrength potent e—cigarette is particularly harmful for children, and in this store they hit the jackpot. and in this store they hit the 'ackot. ., .., , and in this store they hit the 'ackot. ., .. , , and in this store they hit the 'ackot. ., , , . , jackpot. you can see my colleague is ullin: the jackpot. you can see my colleague is pulling the tap _ jackpot. you can see my colleague is pulling the tap underneath, - jackpot. you can see my colleague is pulling the tap underneath, that's i pulling the tap underneath, that's lifting the panel up where these ahead and. these are about six times over the legal limit, and their advertising schedules as well. how
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wor in: is advertising schedules as well. how worrying is it _ advertising schedules as well. how worrying is it avatar gets hold of these? ., , worrying is it avatar gets hold of these? , , worrying is it avatar gets hold of these? , ., ., worrying is it avatar gets hold of these? , , ., ., ~ ., these? vary, because you do not know what is inside — these? vary, because you do not know what is inside them, _ these? vary, because you do not know what is inside them, they _ what is inside them, they haven't been tested. what is inside them, they haven't been tested-— been tested. these are all these va es been tested. these are all these vapes that _ been tested. these are all these vapes that we — been tested. these are all these vapes that we have _ been tested. these are all these vapes that we have seized - been tested. these are all these vapes that we have seized this i vapes that we have seized this afternoon. as a general rule, we look at these being 600 to 800 puffs, some of the ones we see today are 10,000. puffs, some of the ones we see today are 10,000-_ are 10,000. that's incredibly stronu . are 10,000. that's incredibly strong- yes _ are 10,000. that's incredibly strong. yes it _ are 10,000. that's incredibly strong. yes it is, _ are 10,000. that's incredibly strong. yes it is, and - are 10,000. that's incredibly strong. yes it is, and these i are 10,000. that's incredibly i strong. yes it is, and these are are 10,000. that's incredibly - strong. yes it is, and these are all really child — strong. yes it is, and these are all really child appealing, _ strong. yes it is, and these are all really child appealing, but - strong. yes it is, and these are all really child appealing, but these i really child appealing, but these are getting into the hands of children is what we are worried about. as well as being really harmful the children's health, police say these vapes were being used for more sinister purpose is to encourage children into sexual behaviour. encourage children into sexual behaviour-— behaviour. they can be open to criminal and _ behaviour. they can be open to criminal and sexual _ behaviour. they can be open to. criminal and sexual exploitation, behaviour. they can be open to - criminal and sexual exploitation, it can become a case that the shop owner is asking for sexual favours in return for vapes, they get males
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to start by selling vapes to the friends and they do it as a tester, so it shows of these children are capable of selling, making money and that's when the drugs take over. the team can target physical shops, but what about online dealers? it’s what about online dealers? it's uuite what about online dealers? it�*s quite challenging, one of the challenging areas of our operation, but we can trace offenders and their social media, which can lead us to addresses, names.— social media, which can lead us to addresses, names. more illegalvapes are carried to — addresses, names. more illegalvapes are carried to the _ addresses, names. more illegalvapes are carried to the man, _ addresses, names. more illegalvapes are carried to the man, these are - are carried to the man, these are out of reach of children, but the team no more about them. is notjust a problem, so going to continue doing these operations and protect vulnerable children. abbie jones, bbc news. let's take a look at today's papers. 'a great day for truth' is the headline on the front of the guardian.
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it's a quote from prince harry in response to yesterday's landmark victory in the phone hacking case against mirror group newspapers. the sun leads on alex batty — the teenager found in france this week after disappearing on holiday six years ago. the headline 'unbelievable' is a quote from his grandmother who the paper says spoke to the 17—year—old in a video call on thursday. the daily mails celebrating what it calls a 'bonanza for bargain hunters'. it reports that big stores are holding half—price sales to try to boost takings before christmas. and the mirror leads with 'a question of sport', and says the quiz show is being 'kicked off the screen after 53 yea rs'. the bbc says the programme could return in the future. and take a look at this — nasa has released a video of the strongest solar flare emitted by the sun for several years. it temporarily disrupted radio communication on earth for a couple of hours, with multiple pilots reporting communication problems.
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remarkable. i found it remarkable. ifound it quite mesmerising. it remarkable. ! found it quite mesmerising.— remarkable. i found it quite mesmerising. it looks like an e eball. mesmerising. it looks like an eyeball- it — mesmerising. it looks like an eyeball. it looks _ mesmerising. it looks like an eyeball. it looks like - mesmerising. it looks like an i eyeball. it looks like something mesmerising. it looks like an - eyeball. it looks like something you would look out through a microscope. what would the flabby than? == would look out through a microscope. what would the flabby than?- what would the flabby than? -- flare be then? pressure _ what would the flabby than? -- flare be then? pressure on _ what would the flabby than? -- flare be then? pressure on the _ what would the flabby than? -- flare be then? pressure on the manager, | be then? pressure on the manager, tottenham very _ be then? pressure on the manager, tottenham very happy _ be then? pressure on the manager, tottenham very happy though, - be then? pressure on the manager, tottenham very happy though, you |
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tottenham very happy though, you might think he has been on the mince pies but he put a ball up hisjumper to celebrate the fact that his partner is expecting a baby he is hoping he will forgive him and says it's the best thing in his life, he just wanted to pay tribute, he scored a goal and he wanted to celebrate what was tottenham are back in the mix in the race for the champions league places, and infact are just four points off the top after victory at nottingham forest, so they're back on form. while in contrast, forest's slump continues. this was their fifth defeat in six games and puts more pressure on their manager, steve cooper, asjim lumsden reports. remember remember, the fifth of november, the last time nottingham forest won a game. steve cooper spent the week insisting his future is not something he thinks about but once again the waves could be goodbye rather than see you soon. it doesn't help that one of his team 's opposing players reached double figures for forest last season. instead, that fell to the manse spearheading spurs recent revival, two goals in newcastle last weekend, and another in the first half injury time, the brazilian indebted. the
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next team to have the ball in the net, forest, with anthonyjust one of the players shown to be offside, once again, the ball was on the right thanks to a generous clearance from matt turner but this time no cross, 2—0, total comfort, until... a yellow initially given, then changed to read, the second of the season, having hoped to the home side, hope extinguished. his save secured a first clean sheet for spares in almost two months, there were top—down and with that blip now appearing be over, they have the summits in their sides again. onto today, and if you've got, erling haaland in yourfantasy football team, you should have subbed him, because he will again be missing from the manchester city team, hosting crystal palace. his manager says they are assessing the norweigan's foot injury day by day, but to be fair, in his absence, the young academy players who came into the team, in the champions league in the week, really impressed as the club
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maintains its knack of bringing in players, at primary school age, and ensuring they fulfil their potential. i know how important it is for our fans, of our people, the young lads like rico, fenn, from seven, nine, —year—olds, has to be something phenomenal, so continue to work on that and hopefully in the future we can have more players.. newcastle are at home to fulham this afternoon, but manager eddie howe has been reflecting on his first champions league campaign. his side were knocked out at the group stage on wednesday after being beaten by ac milan at stjames' park. they were playing in europe for the first time in 20 years, afterfinishing fourth in the premier league last season. howe says that was miles ahead of schedule and that is recognised by the club's owners. we are like a family, i know it's
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overused cliche but we are very close, notjust me, but everybody connected with the club, so i think there is that feeling of the other very very supportive of the players an understanding of how much they have given. everton will play at goodison park for another season, before moving to their new stadium, due to commercial and logistical reasons, and supporter feedback. today they are at burnley, as sean dyche, goes back to his former club for the first time. dyche is still a popularfigure at burnley, where there is a pub named after him, but is focus is now on everton, and he won't find it hard to push sentiment aside. iam not i am not really, i don't really go into all that sort of stuff, there a massive respect to my time there, and i always had a big respect and connection with people and the fans in all of that because of my time in
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the team's time, but to be honest, they want to win. next to late drama, in rugby union, as northampton snatched a win, at the end of their european champions cup group game, against toulon. two yellow cards for the french side, reduced them to 13 players, with less than five minutes left, and northampton took their chance, tom lockett going over to make it 22—19 and earninng a bonus point as well. and there was a late winner for glasgow warriors, josh mckay giving them a12—11win at french side bayonne — that's glasgow's first victory of the campaign. scarlets' miserable season, continued with a shock loss, to challenge cup newcomers black lion. the welsh side opened, the scoring in claneth—leellanelli in just the fourth minute. but that was as good as it got as they conceded 23 unanswered points to the georgian club. scarlets have now lost seven of nine games in all competitions. former f1 world champion jenson button says he has the backing of his wife, as he prepares to return to top—level competition next year.
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he says he's still at his best, even though he'll be 44 years old when he drives a porsche in the top hypercar class at the world endurance championship, which includes the famous le man 24—hour race. button retired from formula 1 in seven years ago and won his lone drivers' title in 2009. he says his career is a family affair. they travelled with me now and then, which is great, and when i am home, i am home, which is great, and when i am home, iam home, 100% which is great, and when i am home, i am home, 100% of the time, it's not like a 9—to—5job, so i do have that and it works, i've had a pass from the wife to go and race, and it's in my blood. is the event where the wall gets higher and higher and higher. if you're not familiar
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with the puissance event, you're in for a treat. at the international horse show in london, the wall is increased in height until the last rider and horse are left, and britain's guy williams cleared 7 foot 2 inches on mr blue sky uk to win for the second year in a row — the fifth time in all. that is as tall as an adult, male moves. ~ . , that is as tall as an adult, male moves. . . , ., that is as tall as an adult, male moves. ~ . , ., ., ~ moves. with antlers. i did not take the antlers — moves. with antlers. i did not take the antlers into _ moves. with antlers. i did not take the antlers into account. _ moves. with antlers. i did not take the antlers into account. need - moves. with antlers. i did not take the antlers into account. need to i the antlers into account. need to see it again- _ the antlers into account. need to see it again. just _ the antlers into account. need to see it again. just imagine - the antlers into account. need to see it again. just imagine a - see it again. just imagine a moose, there we are. _ see it again. just imagine a moose, there we are, amazing. _ see it again. just imagine a moose, there we are, amazing. i _ see it again. just imagine a moose, there we are, amazing. i don't - see it again. just imagine a moose, | there we are, amazing. i don't think there we are, amazing. i don't think the analogy — there we are, amazing. i don't think the analogy with _ there we are, amazing. i don't think the analogy with a _ there we are, amazing. i don't think the analogy with a moose _ there we are, amazing. i don't think the analogy with a moose is - there we are, amazing. i don't think the analogy with a moose is terribly| the analogy with a moose is terribly helpful because normally when you try to equate hard, you use something people normally know about, and i can't be the only person who is not routinely in contact with a moose.- person who is not routinely in contact with a moose. they are not as bi as contact with a moose. they are not as big as an — contact with a moose. they are not as big as an elephant. _ contact with a moose. they are not as big as an elephant. what - contact with a moose. they are not as big as an elephant. what aboutl as big as an elephant. what about the new doctor? _ as big as an elephant. what about the new doctor? fantastic. - for the first time in six years, doctor who is part of bbc
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one's christmas day line—up, and there's a new time lord taking control of the tardis. where is the tardis? there it is. just there. i am expecting the noise. not yet. next time. millions are expected to tune in to watch ncuti gatwa take on the role as the 15th doctor. our entertainment correspondent lizo mzimba has been speaking to him. iam the i am the doctor. ncuti gatwa, the new doctor- _ i am the doctor. ncuti gatwa, the new doctor. an _ i am the doctor. ncuti gatwa, the new doctor. an indictment - i am the doctor. ncuti gatwa, the new doctor. an indictment of - i am the doctor. ncuti gatwa, the new doctor. an indictment of all i new doctor. an indictment of all anxiety inducing role thanks to the levels of pressure and expectation. hold on tight! exactly that. it is daunting taking on a roll with a lot of history which is where my anxieties came from because you want to do a good job because this show lives in people's heart, rightfully so because it is a magical show and it is our show, it's a british show, it's part of our family. and you don't want to let the family down, so, yeah, iwas
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don't want to let the family down, so, yeah, i was very nervous to kind of keep this beloved, sacred thing, beloved and sacred. haifa of keep this beloved, sacred thing, beloved and sacred.— beloved and sacred. how often to those little _ beloved and sacred. how often to those little moments _ beloved and sacred. how often to those little moments of - beloved and sacred. how often to those little moments of anxiety i those little moments of anxiety happen? did they decrease as the series went along?— happen? did they decrease as the series went along? they've never not ha--ened series went along? they've never not happened lizo! _ series went along? they've never not happened lizo! it's— series went along? they've never not happened lizo! it's 20 _ series went along? they've never not happened lizo! it's 20 from - series went along? they've never not happened lizo! it's 20 from the - happened lizo! it's 20 from the moment i wake up till i go to bed its anxiety. but i mean, people tell me that it means that i care, and i do. i love the show massively and i love the role massively and it is also hard. it's a hard roll, it's a prestigious role, which means it's prestigious role, which means its complex and difficult and i'm trying to do my best. hopefully, i've done that. but, yeah, you are anxious to do a good job. that. but, yeah, you are anxious to do a good job-— do a good 'ob. every doctor of course do a good job. every doctor of course brings _ do a good job. every doctor of course brings in _ do a good job. every doctor of course brings in particular- course brings in particular characteristics to the part and you seem to bring a real passion, real energy and if i can say so a youthful sexiness.- energy and if i can say so a youthful sexiness. right! do i?
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call! i youthful sexiness. right! do i? call! ithink— youthful sexiness. right! do i? call! i think we've _ youthful sexiness. right! do i? call! ! think we've all— youthful sexiness. right! do i? call! i think we've all been - youthful sexiness. right! do i? | call! i think we've all been sexy youthful sexiness. right! do i? i call! i think we've all been sexy in our own way —— cool! yeah, i don't know, i think i've just tried to bring energy and fun. ltruiith know, i think i've just tried to bring energy and fun. with this christmas day _ bring energy and fun. with this christmas day special --if - bring energy and fun. with this christmas day special --if this| christmas day special ——if this christmas day special ——if this christmas day special is anything to go by... christmas day special is anything to to b ., ~ ., christmas day special is anything to go by- - -_ there - christmas day special is anything to go by. . ._ there will - christmas day special is anything to go by. . ._ there will be i go by... ono. what? there will be [en of go by... ono. what? there will be plenty of that _ go by... ono. what? there will be plenty of that with _ go by... ono. what? there will be plenty of that with the _ go by... ono. what? there will be plenty of that with the doctor - go by... ono. what? there will be plenty of that with the doctor and | plenty of that with the doctor and his new companion ruby sunday battling singing, dancing goblins. he is the king. he is the king. goblin. ., ~ ., ., he is the king. he is the king. goblin. ., 4' ., ., , . �* goblin. no, i know! no, yeah, we're brinuain goblin. no, i know! no, yeah, we're bringing little _ goblin. no, i know! no, yeah, we're bringing little musical _ goblin. no, i know! no, yeah, we're bringing little musical flair _ goblin. no, i know! no, yeah, we're bringing little musical flair to - bringing little musical flair to this christmas special. it bringing little musical flair to this christmas special.- bringing little musical flair to this christmas special. it will be seen as symbolic, _ this christmas special. it will be seen as symbolic, the _ this christmas special. it will be seen as symbolic, the first - this christmas special. it will be seen as symbolic, the first luck| seen as symbolic, the first luck actor to play the lead in the show. —— black. what do you think that will mean to people? i -- black. what do you think that will mean to people?— will mean to people? i think it
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means that — will mean to people? i think it means that we _ will mean to people? i think it means that we are _ will mean to people? i think it means that we are here. - will mean to people? i think it means that we are here. and | will mean to people? i think it - means that we are here. and we're not going anywhere. i mean, doctor who is a show that kind of reflects where britain is at. in a way, at times, because it is a quintessentially british, it's been on our screens for so long, it's a bit of a marital where we in society and so, i think it's showing, like, we are here and we are part of the cultural landscape and are not going anywhere ——of a mirror. he cultural landscape and are not going anywhere --of a mirror.— cultural landscape and are not going anywhere --of a mirror. he was born in rwanda — anywhere --of a mirror. he was born in rwanda and _ anywhere --of a mirror. he was born in rwanda and when _ anywhere --of a mirror. he was born in rwanda and when he _ anywhere --of a mirror. he was born in rwanda and when he was - anywhere --of a mirror. he was born in rwanda and when he was to - anywhere --of a mirror. he was born in rwanda and when he was to the i in rwanda and when he was to the family fled the country because of the civil war. first they settled in mbara and then dunfermline. the character he is now playing has felt a sense of displacement —— first in edinburgh. do those kind of experiences help you form a connection to portraying the doctor? yes. i think i... many times in my life! yes. i think i... many times in my life i felt like an alien. a kid like me growing up in scotland,
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there have been many times i felt like an alien and so, i feel like i get it. it's always a joy to get a character like that in which you are able to draw on elements of your own life, your own up ringing and deliver them through the character because fundamentally, it comes up more truthfully.— more truthfully. finally, can you live us more truthfully. finally, can you give us any _ more truthfully. finally, can you give us any non- _ more truthfully. finally, can you give us any non- spoiler- more truthfully. finally, can you give us any non- spoiler hence i more truthfully. finally, can you| give us any non- spoiler hence of give us any non— spoiler hence of yourfirst series? == give us any non- spoiler hence of your first series?— your first series? -- hints. i cannot. _ your first series? -- hints. i cannot. i— your first series? -- hints. i cannot, i cannot. _ your first series? -- hints. i cannot, i cannot. do- your first series? -- hints. i cannot, i cannot. do not- your first series? -- hints. ij cannot, i cannot. do not get your first series? -- hints. i- cannot, i cannot. do not get me in trouble now! i am so bad with spoilers! don't do this to me! how i felt playing it was, yes, joyous and triumphant and just loved it. quite simply, loved it. triumphant and just loved it. quite simply. loved it— triumphant and just loved it. quite simply, loved it. ncuti gatwa, thank ou so simply, loved it. ncuti gatwa, thank you so much — simply, loved it. ncuti gatwa, thank you so much for— simply, loved it. ncuti gatwa, thank you so much for talking _ simply, loved it. ncuti gatwa, thank you so much for talking to _ simply, loved it. ncuti gatwa, thank you so much for talking to us. - simply, loved it. ncuti gatwa, thank| you so much for talking to us. thank ou. you so much for talking to us. thank you- charming. _ you so much for talking to us. thank you. charming, isn't— you so much for talking to us. thank you. charming, isn't he? _ you so much for talking to us. thank you. charming, isn't he? a- you so much for talking to us. thank you. charming, isn't he? a lot - you so much for talking to us. thank you. charming, isn't he? a lot of. you. charming, isn't he? a lot of very excited _ you. charming, isn't he? a lot of very excited people _ you. charming, isn't he? a lot of very excited people ahead - you. charming, isn't he? a lot of very excited people ahead of- you. charming, isn't he? a lot of. very excited people ahead of doctor who's return. doctor who: the church
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on ruby road will be on bbc one on christmas day at 5:55 in the evening. it's 6:35 am. politicians and scientists who were central to decision making during the pandemic have been giving their evidence to the covid inquiry. our health correspondentjim reed has been looking at their testimony in more detail. i have an appalling feeling that i'm being one of those, like, historic catastrophes. the covid enquiry has seen revelations... this catastrophes. the covid enquiry has seen revelations. . ._ seen revelations... this matters massively _ seen revelations... this matters massively to _ seen revelations... this matters massively to people _ seen revelations... this matters massively to people in - seen revelations... this matters massively to people in this - seen revelations... this matters . massively to people in this country! interruptions... mr massively to people in this country! interruptions. . ._ interruptions... mr gove, i ask the auestions interruptions... mr gove, i ask the questions here, _ interruptions... mr gove, i ask the questions here, please. _ interruptions... mr gove, i ask the questions here, please. and - questions here, please. and accusations. _ questions here, please. and accusations. you _ questions here, please. and accusations. you call- questions here, please. and i accusations. you call ministers morons. accusations. you call ministers morons- i'm — accusations. you call ministers morons. i'm sorry, _ accusations. you call ministers morons. i'm sorry, if— accusations. you call ministers morons. i'm sorry, if you - accusations. you call ministers morons. i'm sorry, if you don't accusations. you call ministers i morons. i'm sorry, if you don't sit down i'm — morons. i'm sorry, if you don't sit down i'm going — morons. i'm sorry, if you don't sit down i'm going to _ morons. i'm sorry, if you don't sit down i'm going to ask _ morons. i'm sorry, if you don't sit down i'm going to ask the - morons. i'm sorry, if you don't sit down i'm going to ask the ushers| morons. i'm sorry, if you don't sit i down i'm going to ask the ushers to -et down i'm going to ask the ushers to get you _ down i'm going to ask the ushers to get you to _ down i'm going to ask the ushers to get you to leave. it down i'm going to ask the ushers to get you to leave-— get you to leave. it was powerful testimony from _ get you to leave. it was powerful testimony from the _ get you to leave. it was powerful testimony from the most - get you to leave. it was powerful testimony from the most seniorl testimony from the most senior politicians in charge, along with the officials and scientists advising them. the lockdowns and restrictions might be over but for
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many, wife will never be the same. how do you get the big calls right when you have one of the highest rates of death within western europe orany rates of death within western europe or any of the major economies? i am or any of the ma'or economies? i am deel or any of the ma'or economies? i am deeply sorry — or any of the ma'or economies? i am deeply sorry for — or any of the major economies? i am deeply sorry for the _ or any of the major economies? i am deeply sorry for the pain and the loss and — deeply sorry for the pain and the loss and the suffering of those victims — loss and the suffering of those victims. ., , , , ., victims. the whole enquiry is set to last for years _ victims. the whole enquiry is set to last for years and _ victims. the whole enquiry is set to last for years and is _ victims. the whole enquiry is set to last for years and is broken - victims. the whole enquiry is set to last for years and is broken down i last for years and is broken down into different parts. coming up, the key moments from part two, the life and death decisions of those in charge. could you commence your evidence, please, by giving us your full name? alexander boris de pfeffeljohnson. inevitably, we got some things wrong — inevitably, we got some things wrong i— inevitably, we got some things wrong. i think we were doing our best_ wrong. i think we were doing our best at— wrong. i think we were doing our best at the — wrong. i think we were doing our best at the time, given what we knew, _ best at the time, given what we knew, given the information we had available _ knew, given the information we had available at — knew, given the information we had available at the time, i think we did our— available at the time, i think we did our level best.— available at the time, i think we did our level best. before it even rot did our level best. before it even got going. _ did our level best. before it even got going. the — did our level best. before it even got going, the enquiry _ did our level best. before it even got going, the enquiry asked i got going, the enquiry asked witnesses to hand over their
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e—mails, diaries and what's messages. d0 e-mails, diaries and what's messages-— e-mails, diaries and what's messages. e-mails, diaries and what's messares. ~ ., , ., messages. do you know why your phone was missinr messages. do you know why your phone was missing those _ messages. do you know why your phone was missing those 5000 _ messages. do you know why your phone was missing those 5000 odd _ was missing those 5000 odd whatsapps? i was missing those 5000 odd whatsapps?— was missing those 5000 odd whatsapps? was missing those 5000 odd whatsa s? ., �* ~ ., whatsapps? i don't know the exact reason but it _ whatsapps? i don't know the exact reason but it looked _ whatsapps? i don't know the exact reason but it looked as _ whatsapps? i don't know the exact reason but it looked as though i whatsapps? i don't know the exact reason but it looked as though it i reason but it looked as though it was something to do with the going down _ was something to do with the going down and _ was something to do with the going down and then coming up again. you don't now down and then coming up again. don't now have down and then coming up again. ym. don't now have access to any of the whatsapps that you did send during the time of the crisis, do you? ida. the time of the crisis, do you? no, i don't. the time of the crisis, do you? no, i don't- i've — the time of the crisis, do you? no, i don't. i've changed _ the time of the crisis, do you? no, i don't. i've changed my phone multiple — idon't. i've changed my phone multiple times— idon't. i've changed my phone multiple times over— i don't. i've changed my phone multiple times over the - i don't. i've changed my phone multiple times over the past i i don't. i've changed my phone i multiple times over the past few years— multiple times over the past few years and — multiple times over the past few years and is— multiple times over the past few years and is that _ multiple times over the past few years and is that has _ multiple times over the past few years and is that has happened, | multiple times over the past few. years and is that has happened, the messages _ years and is that has happened, the messages have _ years and is that has happened, the messages have not— years and is that has happened, the messages have not come _ years and is that has happened, the messages have not come across. i years and is that has happened, the| messages have not come across. as you said, — messages have not come across. as you said, im— messages have not come across. as you said, i'm not— messages have not come across. as you said, i'm not a— messages have not come across. as you said, i'm not a prolific— messages have not come across. as you said, i'm not a prolific user- messages have not come across. as you said, i'm not a prolific user of. you said, i'm not a prolific user of whatsapp — you said, i'm not a prolific user of whatsapp in _ you said, i'm not a prolific user of whatsapp in the _ you said, i'm not a prolific user of whatsapp in the first _ you said, i'm not a prolific user of whatsapp in the first instance. i whatsapp in the first instance. those — whatsapp in the first instance. those messages _ whatsapp in the first instance. those messages help- whatsapp in the first instance. those messages help paint i whatsapp in the first instance. those messages help paint a i whatsapp in the first instance. i those messages help paint a picture of how downing street was operating at the time. ., , , of how downing street was operating at the time. . , , ., at the time. there was definitely a toxic culture. _ at the time. there was definitely a toxic culture. it _ at the time. there was definitely a toxic culture. it is _ at the time. there was definitely a toxic culture. it is difficult - at the time. there was definitely a toxic culture. it is difficult to i toxic culture. it is difficult to ret toxic culture. it is difficult to get people _ toxic culture. it is difficult to get people to _ toxic culture. it is difficult to get people to much - toxic culture. it is difficult to get people to much to i toxic culture. it is difficult to get people to much to the i toxic culture. it is difficult to i get people to much to the sound of gunfire _ get people to much to the sound of gunfire if— get people to much to the sound of gunfire if you shoot them in the bacic _ gunfire if you shoot them in the back. , ., ~ , �* , back. texts of the prime minister's chief advisor _ back. texts of the prime minister's chief advisor dominic _ back. texts of the prime minister's chief advisor dominic cummings i back. texts of the prime minister's i chief advisor dominic cummings were run out. they often came with a
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warning. run out. they often came with a warninr. , . ., i. warning. during large part to your own what's _ warning. during large part to your own what's up _ warning. during large part to your own what's up -- _ warning. during large part to your own what's up -- whatsapps, i warning. during large part to your own what's up -- whatsapps, mr| own what's up —— whatsapps, mr cummings, we will have to course in our language so what. i apologise. you called ministers this was expletive. morons. in e—mails and whatsapps to your professional colleagues. do you feel that you express your views to trenchant link? that your opinion of ministers and the cabinet overstated the position? and the cabinet overstated the osition? ., ., _ position? no, iwould say if anything — position? no, iwould say if anything i _ position? no, iwould say if anything i understated i position? no, iwould say if anything i understated thel position? no, i would say if- anything i understated the position. the top _ anything i understated the position. the top female civil servant in whitehall helen mcnamara was the target of some of the strongest language. i was not misogynistic. i agree that my language is deplorable but as you can see _
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my language is deplorable but as you can see for— my language is deplorable but as you can see for yourself i deployed the same _ can see for yourself i deployed the same or— can see for yourself i deployed the same or worse language about the prime _ same or worse language about the prime minister, secretary of state and other— prime minister, secretary of state and other people. the prime minister, secretary of state and other people.— prime minister, secretary of state and other people. the things that mr cumminrs, and other people. the things that mr cummings, having _ and other people. the things that mr cummings, having seen _ and other people. the things that mr cummings, having seen those i cummings, having seen those messages, you know, it is horrible to read but it is both surprising and not surprising to me and i don't know which is worse.— know which is worse. boris johnson was also questioned _ know which is worse. boris johnson was also questioned directly - know which is worse. boris johnson was also questioned directly about| was also questioned directly about the workplace culture in downing street. i the workplace culture in downing street. ., ., the workplace culture in downing street. ~' ., , street. i knew that some people were difficult. i street. i knew that some people were difficult- i did — street. i knew that some people were difficult. i did not — street. i knew that some people were difficult. i did not know— street. i knew that some people were difficult. i did not know how _ difficult. i did not know how difficult. i did not know how difficult they were. clearly. but i thought it was better on the whole for the country to have a disputatious culture in number 10 than one that was quietly acquiescent.— than one that was quietly ac uiescent. , . ., , ., acquiescent. very nice to meet you. health secretary _ acquiescent. very nice to meet you. health secretary matt _ acquiescent. very nice to meet you. health secretary matt hancock- acquiescent. very nice to meet you. health secretary matt hancock also | health secretary matt hancock also came in for a fair bit of criticism. i think he had a habit of saying things which he didn't have a basis for and he would say them too enthusiastically, too early. without the evidence to back them up. and
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then have to backtrack from them days later. i don't know to what extent that was sort of over enthusiasm versus deliberate. iloathed enthusiasm versus deliberate. what was said in a — enthusiasm versus deliberate. what was said in a meeting _ enthusiasm versus deliberate. what was said in a meeting has actually being _ was said in a meeting has actually being under control or going to be delivered — being under control or going to be delivered or something that was fine but then— delivered or something that was fine but then subsequently, in a matter of days, _ but then subsequently, in a matter of days, sometimes even weeks later, we'd discover that wasn't in fact the case — we'd discover that wasn't in fact the case. ., .., we'd discover that wasn't in fact the case. ., _, ,., ., the case. how could important government — the case. how could important government advisors - the case. how could important government advisors and i the case. how could important i government advisors and officials have concluded _ government advisors and officials have concluded that _ government advisors and officials have concluded that the - government advisors and officials| have concluded that the secretary government advisors and officials i have concluded that the secretary of state for _ have concluded that the secretary of state for health _ have concluded that the secretary of state for health was _ have concluded that the secretary of state for health was a _ have concluded that the secretary of state for health was a liar? - have concluded that the secretary of state for health was a liar? [- have concluded that the secretary of state for health was a liar? i was i state for health was a liar? i was not. you state for health was a liar? i was not- you will— state for health was a liar? i was not. you will note _ state for health was a liar? i was not. you will note there - state for health was a liar? i was not. you will note there is i state for health was a liar? i was not. you will note there is no i not. you will note there is no evidence from anybody who i worked within the department or the health system who supported that, those false allegations. mr; system who supported that, those false allegations.— system who supported that, those false allegations. my 'udgement was that matt was. _ false allegations. my 'udgement was that matt was, on i false allegations. myjudgement was that matt was, on the _ false allegations. myjudgement was that matt was, on the whole, - false allegations. myjudgement was that matt was, on the whole, doing i false allegations. myjudgement was| that matt was, on the whole, doing a -ood that matt was, on the whole, doing a good job— that matt was, on the whole, doing a good job in— that matt was, on the whole, doing a good job in very difficult circumstances and there was no advantage in moving him as i was
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being _ advantage in moving him as i was being urged to do. that was my judgement. being urged to do. that was my judgement-— being urged to do. that was my 'udrement. , ., ., ., judgement. flights from china into the uk will be _ judgement. flights from china into the uk will be monitored _ judgement. flights from china into the uk will be monitored amid i the uk will be monitored amid concerns— the uk will be monitored amid concerns about _ the uk will be monitored amid concerns about the _ the uk will be monitored amid concerns about the spread i the uk will be monitored amid concerns about the spread of i the uk will be monitored amid | concerns about the spread of a the uk will be monitored amid i concerns about the spread of a new virus _ concerns about the spread of a new virus. �* , ., , virus. let's turn then to the events ofthat virus. let's turn then to the events of that first — virus. let's turn then to the events of that first year. _ virus. let's turn then to the events of that first year. it's _ virus. let's turn then to the events of that first year. it's the _ virus. let's turn then to the events of that first year. it's the start i of that first year. it's the start of that first year. it's the start of 2020 and the first reports of a new virus start emerging in china. prime ministers, are you concerned about the coronavirus coming to the united kingdom? i about the coronavirus coming to the united kingdom?— united kingdom? i 'ust know how notoriously h united kingdom? ijust know how notoriously difficult _ united kingdom? ijust know how notoriously difficult to _ united kingdom? ijust know how notoriously difficult to control, i notoriously difficult to control, respiratory viruses are. i knew by this stage — respiratory viruses are. i knew by this stage it— respiratory viruses are. i knew by this stage it appeared to be a novel coronavirus — this stage it appeared to be a novel coronavirus. just my general experience told me that i didn't like the — experience told me that i didn't like the look or feel of this. | like the look or feel of this. don't see like the look or feel of this. i don't see what i would have done differently — don't see what i would have done differently at _ don't see what i would have done differently at this _ don't see what i would have done differently at this particular - don't see what i would have done differently at this particular point| differently at this particular point but if— differently at this particular point but if m — differently at this particular point but if m said— differently at this particular point but if i'd said to _ differently at this particular point but if i'd said to him, _ differently at this particular point but if i'd said to him, ok, - differently at this particular point but if i'd said to him, ok, what's| but if i'd said to him, ok, what's the evidence _ but if i'd said to him, ok, what's the evidence of— but if i'd said to him, ok, what's the evidence of which _ but if i'd said to him, ok, what's the evidence of which this - but if i'd said to him, ok, what's the evidence of which this will i but if i'd said to him, ok, what's| the evidence of which this will be but if i'd said to him, ok, what's. the evidence of which this will be a pandemic— the evidence of which this will be a pandemic and _ the evidence of which this will be a pandemic and lots _ the evidence of which this will be a pandemic and lots of— the evidence of which this will be a pandemic and lots of things - the evidence of which this will be a pandemic and lots of things not, i the evidence of which this will be a i pandemic and lots of things not, he would _ pandemic and lots of things not, he would have — pandemic and lots of things not, he would have said _ pandemic and lots of things not, he would have said this— pandemic and lots of things not, he would have said this is— pandemic and lots of things not, he would have said this isjust - pandemic and lots of things not, he would have said this isjust — - pandemic and lots of things not, he would have said this isjust — it i would have said this isjust — it just— would have said this isjust — it just feels— would have said this isjust — it just feels like _ would have said this isjust — it just feels like it _ would have said this isjust — it just feels like it to _ would have said this isjust — it just feels like it to me. -
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would have said this isjust — it just feels like it to me. that'si just feels like it to me. that's quite — just feels like it to me. that's quite a — just feels like it to me. that's quite a narrow— just feels like it to me. that's quite a narrow basis - just feels like it to me. that's quite a narrow basis on- just feels like it to me. that's quite a narrow basis on which| just feels like it to me. that's i quite a narrow basis on which to make _ quite a narrow basis on which to make quite _ quite a narrow basis on which to make quite a _ quite a narrow basis on which to make quite a big _ quite a narrow basis on which to make quite a big decision. i quite a narrow basis on which to make quite a big decision. some of the testimony. _ make quite a big decision. some of the testimony, though, _ make quite a big decision. some of the testimony, though, suggested | make quite a big decision. some of. the testimony, though, suggested the virus wasn't as a deadly threat, at least to start with. pond virus wasn't as a deadly threat, at least to start with.— least to start with. and from the middle ofjanuary, _ least to start with. and from the middle ofjanuary, we _ least to start with. and from the middle ofjanuary, we were i least to start with. and from the i middle ofjanuary, we were trying to effectively raise the alarm. we were trying to wake up whitehall to the scale of the problem. i trying to wake up whitehall to the scale of the problem.— trying to wake up whitehall to the scale of the problem. i 'ust want to take ou scale of the problem. i 'ust want to teloe you boot scale of the problem. i 'ust want to take you back to i scale of the problem. i 'ust want to take you back to what i scale of the problem. i just want to take you back to what you - scale of the problem. i just want to take you back to what you tell i scale of the problem. i just want to take you back to what you tell us, | take you back to what you tell us, but mr_ take you back to what you tell us, but mrjohnson said that he wanted to be _ but mrjohnson said that he wanted to be injected with covid—19 to demonstrate to the public that it didnt— demonstrate to the public that it didn't pose a threat. it demonstrate to the public that it didn't pose a threat.— didn't pose a threat. it was - it was before _ didn't pose a threat. it was - it was before the _ didn't pose a threat. it was - it was before the italian - didn't pose a threat. it was - it was before the italian situation didn't pose a threat. it was - it - was before the italian situation had really _ was before the italian situation had really become _ was before the italian situation had really become apparent _ was before the italian situation had really become apparent to - was before the italian situation had i really become apparent to everybody. it was _ really become apparent to everybody. it was a _ really become apparent to everybody. it was a time — really become apparent to everybody. it was a time when _ really become apparent to everybody. it was a time when covid _ really become apparent to everybody. it was a time when covid was - really become apparent to everybody. it was a time when covid was not - it was a time when covid was not seen _ it was a time when covid was not seen as— it was a time when covid was not seen as being _ it was a time when covid was not seen as being the _ it was a time when covid was not seen as being the serious - it was a time when covid was not| seen as being the serious disease subsequently— seen as being the serious disease subsequently became _ seen as being the serious disease subsequently became always - seen as being the serious disease i subsequently became always seem seen as being the serious disease - subsequently became always seem to be. it subsequently became always seem to be it was— subsequently became always seem to be it was a _ subsequently became always seem to be. it was a moment _ subsequently became always seem to be. it was a moment in _ subsequently became always seem to be. it was a moment in time. - subsequently became always seem to be. it was a moment in time. boris i be. it was a moment in time. boris johnson be. it was a moment in time. boris johnson later— be. it was a moment in time. boris johnson later said _ be. it was a moment in time. boris johnson later said he _ be. it was a moment in time. boris johnson later said he rejected - be. it was a moment in timem johnson later said he rejected that account. johnson later said he re'ected that account. ., ., , account. the government warns a . ainst account. the government warns against all — account. the government warns against all but _ account. the government warns against all but essential - account. the government warns against all but essential travel | account. the government warns |
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against all but essential travel to italy as the country's coronavirus lockdown comes into effect. figs italy as the country's coronavirus lockdown comes into effect. as the virus hit europe, _ lockdown comes into effect. as the virus hit europe, emergency - lockdown comes into effect. as the virus hit europe, emergency cobra| virus hit europe, emergency cobra government meetings were held, chaired by mr hancock and not the prime minister. in chaired by mr hancock and not the prime minister.— prime minister. in that period, janua prime minister. in that period, january really _ prime minister. in that period, january really to _ prime minister. in that period, january really to the _ prime minister. in that period, january really to the end - prime minister. in that period, january really to the end of- january really to the end of february, towards the end of february, towards the end of february, covid was pretty much like a cloud on the horizon no bigger than a man's hand and you didn't know whether it was going to turn into a typhoon. i look at all this stuff in which we seem so oblivious on in horror. i mean, we should have — we should have twigged. the - we should have twigged. the government — - we should have twigged. the government was _ — we should have twigged. the government was still trying to isolate anyone infected and trace their contacts. by march, the government had switched to a mitigation strategy.— government had switched to a mitigation strategy. government had switched to a mitiaation strate: . ~ ., , mitigation strategy. wash your hands for national health. _ mitigation strategy. wash your hands for national health. wash _ mitigation strategy. wash your hands for national health. wash your - for national health. wash your hands. for national health. wash your hands- the — for national health. wash your hands. the advice _ for national health. wash your hands. the advice was - for national health. wash your hands. the advice was wash . for national health. wash your i hands. the advice was wash your hands, hands. the advice was wash your hands. work _
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hands. the advice was wash your hands, work from _ hands. the advice was wash your hands, work from home - hands. the advice was wash your hands, work from home if- hands. the advice was wash your l hands, work from home if possible and self—isolate if you have symptoms. the idea judge slow the spread of the virus and keep infections at a level the nhs could cope with. infections at a level the nhs could co -e with. ., ., .,. cope with. you refer to the fact that the prime _ cope with. you refer to the fact that the prime minister - cope with. you refer to the fact that the prime minister at - cope with. you refer to the fact that the prime minister at this | that the prime minister at this stage was stressing the importance of not overreacting in the response. he was worried about the government bein- he was worried about the government being swept up in a sort of media hysteria. — being swept up in a sort of media hysteria, and overreacting, causing more _ hysteria, and overreacting, causing more harrn — hysteria, and overreacting, causing more harrn l — hysteria, and overreacting, causing more harm-— more harm. i was in hospitalthe other night _ more harm. i was in hospitalthe other night where _ more harm. i was in hospitalthe other night where there - more harm. i was in hospitalthe other night where there are - more harm. i was in hospitalthe i other night where there are another couple _ other night where there are another couple of— other night where there are another couple of patients _ other night where there are another couple of patients and _ other night where there are another couple of patients and i— other night where there are another couple of patients and i shook- other night where there are anotherl couple of patients and i shook hands with everybody _ couple of patients and i shook hands with everybody '— couple of patients and i shook hands with everybody. i should _ couple of patients and i shook hands with everybody. i should not- couple of patients and i shook hands with everybody. i should not have i with everybody. i should not have done _ with everybody. i should not have done that — with everybody. i should not have done that in — with everybody. i should not have done that in retrospect, - with everybody. i should not have done that in retrospect, i- with everybody. i should not have done that in retrospect, i should. done that in retrospect, i should have _ done that in retrospect, i should have been— done that in retrospect, i should have been more _ done that in retrospect, i should have been more precautionary, i done that in retrospect, i should i have been more precautionary, but done that in retrospect, i should - have been more precautionary, but i wanted _ have been more precautionary, but i wanted to— have been more precautionary, but i wanted to be — have been more precautionary, but i wanted to be encouraging _ have been more precautionary, but i wanted to be encouraging to - have been more precautionary, but i| wanted to be encouraging to people. it wanted to be encouraging to people. it was _ wanted to be encouraging to people. it was ciear— wanted to be encouraging to people. it was clear that _ wanted to be encouraging to people. it was clear that the _ wanted to be encouraging to people. it was clear that the virus _ it was clear that the virus was spreading quicker than many scientists expected, driven by tourists coming back from europe. i was concerned the people who are
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being asked to make these very consequential decisions coming our way, very fast, had not got their heads round what it would feel like to have three quarters of the population infected and i% of them die. population infected and 1% of them die. ,, , ., , ., ., die. sporting events went ahead, life continued. _ die. sporting events went ahead, life continued. by _ die. sporting events went ahead, life continued. by the _ die. sporting events went ahead, life continued. by the middle - die. sporting events went ahead, life continued. by the middle of. life continued. by the middle of march though, some officials were very concerned. i march though, some officials were very concerned.— march though, some officials were very concerned. i have come through here to the — very concerned. i have come through here to the prime _ very concerned. i have come through here to the prime minister _ very concerned. i have come through here to the prime minister 's office i here to the prime minister 's office to tell you all that we are in trouble. this country is heading for a disaster, i think we're going to kill of people, i think that's an accurate account. is very striking. yes. ., ., , , , yes. no doubt you can still remember that moment — yes. no doubt you can still remember that moment of _ yes. no doubt you can still remember that moment of realisation. _ yes. no doubt you can still remember that moment of realisation. yes, - that moment of realisation. yes, it was horrible- _ that moment of realisation. yes, it was horrible. i _ that moment of realisation. yes, it was horrible. i must _ that moment of realisation. yes, it was horrible. i must give _ that moment of realisation. yes, it was horrible. i must give the - was horrible. i must give the british people _ was horrible. i must give the british people are _ was horrible. i must give the british people are very - was horrible. i must give the | british people are very simple instruction _ british people are very simple instruction. you _ british people are very simple instruction. you must - british people are very simple instruction. you must stay- british people are very simple instruction. you must stay ati british people are very simple -
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instruction. you must stay at home. perhaps _ instruction. you must stay at home. perhaps the — instruction. you must stay at home. perhaps the most _ instruction. you must stay at home. perhaps the most dramatic - instruction. you must stay at home. perhaps the most dramatic momentj instruction. you must stay at home. . perhaps the most dramatic moment of the whole pandemic, if all mandatory lockdown, announced on the 23rd of march across the whole of the uk. you consider the argument against lockdown or did you...? you consider the argument against lockdown or did you. . . ?_ you consider the argument against lockdown or did you. . . ? lockdown or did you...? i did, and i mean, i didn't... _ lockdown or did you...? i did, and i mean, i didn't... i'm— lockdown or did you...? i did, and i mean, i didn't... i'm afraid - lockdown or did you...? i did, and i mean, i didn't... i'm afraid to - mean, i didn't... i'm afraid to say at that— mean, i didn't... i'm afraid to say at that stage _ mean, i didn't... i'm afraid to say at that stage i gave it a short shrift, — at that stage i gave it a short shrift, because i thought that my 'ob shrift, because i thought that my job was— shrift, because i thought that my job was to — shrift, because i thought that my job was to protect human life. with hindsi . ht, job was to protect human life. tn hindsight, officials and scientists said that key decisions are lockdown could have come earlier, though it was a difficult balancing act at the time. r' was a difficult balancing act at the time. ., was a difficult balancing act at the time. ,~' ., ., ., ., ., , time. the risk of going too early, in which case _ time. the risk of going too early, in which case you _ time. the risk of going too early, in which case you would - time. the risk of going too early, in which case you would get - time. the risk of going too early, in which case you would get all. time. the risk of going too early, l in which case you would get all the damages, with fairly minimal impact on the epidemic in the risk of going too late, in which case you get all the problems of the pandemic running away. my view, with the benefit of hindsight is we went a bit too late.
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i defend the actions of the government at the time knowing what we did _ government at the time knowing what we did but— government at the time knowing what we did but in hindsight, that's the moment— we did but in hindsight, that's the moment we should have done it, three weeks _ moment we should have done it, three weeks earlier and it would have saved _ weeks earlier and it would have saved many lives.— weeks earlier and it would have saved many lives. matt hancock claimed he _ saved many lives. matt hancock claimed he had _ saved many lives. matt hancock claimed he had called _ saved many lives. matt hancock claimed he had called boris - saved many lives. matt hancock - claimed he had called boris johnson claimed he had called borisjohnson early on the 13th of march telling him to lockdown. your books as the account has been meticulously pieced together from formal papers, nodes, voice memories, communications, 555 pages, all the relevant, important events, as you saw it, concerning the coronavirus response, but there is no reference to you telling the prime minister to urgently lockdown on the 13th of march. how sure are you that you told the prime minister that he had to lockdown in a call on the 13th of march? i that he had to lockdown in a call on the 13th of march?— the 13th of march? i can remember it, and it the 13th of march? i can remember it. and it came _ the 13th of march? i can remember it, and it came to _ the 13th of march? i can remember it, and it came to light _ the 13th of march? i can remember it, and it came to light in _ the 13th of march? i can remember it, and it came to light in looking i it, and it came to light in looking forward to this enquiry. ministers
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includin: forward to this enquiry. ministers including prime _ forward to this enquiry. ministers including prime minister- forward to this enquiry. ministers including prime minister rishi - forward to this enquiry. ministers i including prime minister rishi sunak and the chancellor said decisions at the time were being guided by a group of scientists known as stage. advice was put to the government and the prime ministerfrom stage and advice was followed, pretty much imminently on the same day in most cases, if not all cases. the advice changed during that period, but the government, when the advice stands, the government acted. br; government, when the advice stands, the government acted.— the government acted. by the end of march the virus _ the government acted. by the end of march the virus was _ the government acted. by the end of march the virus was spreading - march the virus was spreading through downing street itself. i have taken a test, it has come out positive. i knew from that experience, what an appalling disease this is. i had absolutely no personal doubt about that from march onwards. the personal doubt about that from march onwards. , ., ., , onwards. the enquiry heard there was frustration from _ onwards. the enquiry heard there was frustration from some _ onwards. the enquiry heard there was frustration from some about - onwards. the enquiry heard there was frustration from some about how- onwards. the enquiry heard there was frustration from some about how long j frustration from some about how long it took people in charge to make decisions, especially the prime
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minister. i decisions, especially the prime minister. .. �* minister. i think i'm right in sa in: minister. i think i'm right in saying that _ minister. i think i'm right in saying that the _ minister. i think i'm right in saying that the prime - minister. i think i'm right in i saying that the prime minister minister. i think i'm right in - saying that the prime minister at the time gave up science when he was 15 and he would be the first to admit it was not his forte, and that he did struggle with some of the concepts, and we did need to repeat them often. i concepts, and we did need to repeat them often-— them often. i think what will be clear with _ them often. i think what will be clear with covid _ them often. i think what will be clear with covid is _ them often. i think what will be clear with covid is it _ them often. i think what will be clear with covid is it was - them often. i think what will be clear with covid is it was the - them often. i think what will be i clear with covid is it was the wrong crisis _ clear with covid is it was the wrong crisis for— clear with covid is it was the wrong crisis for this — clear with covid is it was the wrong crisis for this prime minister was make skill— crisis for this prime minister was make skill set.— crisis for this prime minister was make skill set. ~ ., ., , ., ., _ make skill set. what do you mean by the wron: make skill set. what do you mean by the wrong crisis _ make skill set. what do you mean by the wrong crisis for _ make skill set. what do you mean by the wrong crisis for this _ make skill set. what do you mean by the wrong crisis for this prime - the wrong crisis for this prime minister's skill set? he the wrong crisis for this prime minister's skill set?— the wrong crisis for this prime minister's skill set? he is somebody who would often _ minister's skill set? he is somebody who would often delay _ minister's skill set? he is somebody who would often delay making - who would often delay making decisions, often seek counsel from multiple sources and changed his mind on issues. mr multiple sources and changed his mind on issues.— multiple sources and changed his mind on issues. mrjohnson came out fiuuhtin mind on issues. mrjohnson came out fighting and — mind on issues. mrjohnson came out fighting and defended _ mind on issues. mrjohnson came out fighting and defended his _ mind on issues. mrjohnson came out fighting and defended his approach. l fighting and defended his approach. i got the chancellor of the exchequer with me saying there is a risk to the uk bond markets and our ability to raise a sovereign debt.
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that matters massively to people in this country, it matters to the livelihoods of people up and down the land. i have to go through the arguments. the the land. i have to go through the arguments-— the land. i have to go through the art uments. .. ., ., , arguments. the fact that there was debate and people _ arguments. the fact that there was debate and people were _ arguments. the fact that there wasj debate and people were passionate about it _ debate and people were passionate about it and they had different points — about it and they had different points of— about it and they had different points of view is unsurprising, and secondly— points of view is unsurprising, and secondly good, because it would be worse _ secondly good, because it would be worse if— secondly good, because it would be worse if we — secondly good, because it would be worse if we were having this conversation and all the commentary was there _ conversation and all the commentary was there was no debate about this whatsoever, it was alljust signed off, straightforward, and it was the last we _ off, straightforward, and it was the last we heard about, that would be far worse. — last we heard about, that would be farworse, quite last we heard about, that would be far worse, quite frankly. fiver last we heard about, that would be far worse, quite frankly.— far worse, quite frankly. over the late spring _ far worse, quite frankly. over the late spring of _ far worse, quite frankly. over the late spring of 2020 _ far worse, quite frankly. over the late spring of 2020 the _ far worse, quite frankly. over the late spring of 2020 the country i far worse, quite frankly. over the i late spring of 2020 the country had come gingerly out of lockdown. it’s come gingerly out of lockdown. it's ok to come gingerly out of lockdown. it�*s ok to come to town, you just have to 0k to come to town, you just have to be cautious. ok to come to town, you 'ust have to be cautious-— be cautious. that summer, the eat out to help — be cautious. that summer, the eat out to help out _ be cautious. that summer, the eat out to help out scheme _ be cautious. that summer, the eat out to help out scheme was - be cautious. that summer, the eat i out to help out scheme was launched, offering discounts on cafe 's and restaurants. were you consulted on that scheme?— that scheme? absolutely not, the first i heard _ that scheme? absolutely not, the first i heard about _ that scheme? absolutely not, the first i heard about it _ that scheme? absolutely not, the first i heard about it i _ that scheme? absolutely not, the first i heard about it i think- that scheme? absolutely not, the first i heard about it i think was i first i heard about it i think was on tv. ., ., .,
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first i heard about it i think was ontv. ., ., ., , on tv. you are not sure whether it was discussed _ on tv. you are not sure whether it was discussed with _ on tv. you are not sure whether it was discussed with them - on tv. you are not sure whether it was discussed with them and - on tv. you are not sure whether it was discussed with them and you | on tv. you are not sure whether it - was discussed with them and you were surprised it wasn't? the was discussed with them and you were surprised it wasn't?— surprised it wasn't? the reason i said that in _ surprised it wasn't? the reason i said that in my — surprised it wasn't? the reason i said that in my statement - surprised it wasn't? the reason i said that in my statement is - surprised it wasn't? the reason i said that in my statement is a i said that in my statement is a frankly assume that it must�*ve been discussed with them, and i am perplexed. discussed with them, and i am perplexed-— perplexed. scientist told the en . ui perplexed. scientist told the enquiry they _ perplexed. scientist told the enquiry they had _ perplexed. scientist told the enquiry they had real - perplexed. scientist told the l enquiry they had real concerns about that scheme. they would pay you to go into an environment with people from other households and mix in an indoor environment, and that is the completely opposite public health message. i completely opposite public health messaue. ., �* ., ., , ., ., message. i don't want to blame eat out for the — message. i don't want to blame eat out for the second _ message. i don't want to blame eat out for the second wave _ message. i don't want to blame eat out for the second wave but - message. i don't want to blame eat out for the second wave but the - out for the second wave but the optics of it, they were terrible. hospitality had been deemed to be safe to be reopened with a considerable, hundreds of pages of guidance, changes in practice and had been recommended by think tanks and had been done by countries elsewhere, this was a very reasonable, sensible policy intervention to help safeguard our jobs in that safe reopening. that
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was my view, i did not believe it was my view, i did not believe it was a risk, but if others are suggesting they didn't, they had ample opportunity to raise those concerns in forums where i was, and they didn't. concerns in forums where i was, and they didn't-— they didn't. that period of time, calm did not _ they didn't. that period of time, calm did not last _ they didn't. that period of time, calm did not last long. - they didn't. that period of time, calm did not last long. by - calm did not last long. by september, schools and universities had returned and cases were rising. is very frustrating for us to be asked to advise the government that the autumn will be difficult and that difficulty would manifest as rising numbers of infections, and then we had this astonishingly good ability to watch that happen, so he said you should do something now. the treasury and rishi sunak were very concerned about the impact on the economy and rejected the idea of a mini lockdown or circuit breaker,
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backed by many scientists.- backed by many scientists. some officials are _ backed by many scientists. some officials are number— backed by many scientists. some officials are number ten - backed by many scientists. fins officials are number ten described the treasury as the death port. i do the treasury as the death port. i do not think it — the treasury as the death port. i do not think it is _ the treasury as the death port. i do not think it is a _ the treasury as the death port. i do not think it is a fair characterisation of the number of peopie _ characterisation of the number of people that supported me. the treasury— people that supported me. the treasury work extremely hard throughout the entire period, and are widely— throughout the entire period, and are widely considered to have done some _ are widely considered to have done some things that no—one had thought possible _ some things that no—one had thought possible that saved millions of people 's— possible that saved millions of people 's livelihoods. it possible that saved millions of people 's livelihoods.- people 's livelihoods. it was claimed mr _ people 's livelihoods. it was claimed mrjohnson - people 's livelihoods. it was claimed mrjohnson said i people 's livelihoods. it was claimed mrjohnson said at| people 's livelihoods. it was - claimed mrjohnson said at times he was willing to let infections raised to protect the economy. the prime minister begins _ to protect the economy. the prime minister begins to _ to protect the economy. the prime minister begins to argue _ to protect the economy. the prime minister begins to argue for - to protect the economy. the prime minister begins to argue for letting it read, saying there will be more casualties but so be it, they've had a good innings. casualties but so be it, they've had a good innings-— a good innings. notes from the rivate a good innings. notes from the private diary — a good innings. notes from the private diary were _ a good innings. notes from the private diary were read - a good innings. notes from the private diary were read out. i a good innings. notes from the | private diary were read out. was a good innings. notes from the i private diary were read out. was it our private diary were read out. was it your position _ private diary were read out. was it your position mr— private diary were read out. was it your position mrjohnson - private diary were read out. was it your position mrjohnson that - private diary were read out. was it your position mrjohnson that in i your position mrjohnson that in light of your view secretly held about people dying, having reached their time, that you were obliged to
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reject the advice of your advisors, that there be no national lockdown, and that you would try and tear system. and that you would try and tear s stem. ., , .., ., and that you would try and tear s stem. ., , ., i. ., system. no. the implication you are t in: to system. no. the implication you are trying to draw _ system. no. the implication you are trying to draw from _ system. no. the implication you are trying to draw from those _ trying to draw from those conversations is completely wrong, and my— conversations is completely wrong, and my position was that we had to save human — and my position was that we had to save human life at all ages. instead, _ save human life at all ages. instead, later touched restrictions were introduced in england, there was an earlier closing time for pubs and heavy fines for breaking the rules. did you think a new flat fine of £10,000 was proportionate? it b�*n�*ds of £10,000 was proportionate? it was ve hiuh, of £10,000 was proportionate? it was very high. it — of £10,000 was proportionate? it was very high. it was _ of £10,000 was proportionate? it was very high, it wasjust... _ of £10,000 was proportionate? it was very high, it wasjust. .. was - very high, it was 'ust. .. was proportionate _ very high, it was 'ust. .. was proportionate in _ very high, it wasjust. .. was proportionate in light - very high, it wasjust. .. was proportionate in light of- very high, it wasjust... was proportionate in light of the civil libertarian issues? the proportionate in light of the civil libertarian issues?— proportionate in light of the civil libertarian issues? the answer is no. libertarian issues? the answer is no- different _ libertarian issues? the answer is no. different regional—
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libertarian issues? the answer is i no. different regional restrictions, known as tears, _ no. different regional restrictions, known as tears, were _ no. different regional restrictions, known as tears, were introduced. | known as tears, were introduced. every mp argue that their area should not be a higher tier, there should not be a higher tier, there should be a lower tier, so everyone is arguing to do things just a little bit less than they should 's. local mayors savers were often sidelined in decision—making. i ueiiiii sidelined in decision-making. i will never forget _ sidelined in decision-making. i will never forget that _ sidelined in decision—making. i will never forget that feeling of lack of power. _ never forget that feeling of lack of power, influence, not knowing what's happening _ power, influence, not knowing what's happening in our city. but power, influence, not knowing what's happening in our city.— happening in our city. but covid cases kept _ happening in our city. but covid cases kept rising _ happening in our city. but covid cases kept rising and _ happening in our city. but covid cases kept rising and on - happening in our city. but covid cases kept rising and on the i happening in our city. but covidl cases kept rising and on the fifth of november, england went into a national lockdown for a second time. i think that if we had taken action sooner, in september of 2020, then we might, for instance, have avoided the need to close schools, which union we hope to copy because cases were so high. union we hope to copy because cases were so high-— were so high. look at what we actually did. — were so high. look at what we actually did, we _ were so high. look at what we actually did, we went - were so high. look at what we actually did, we went into - were so high. look at what we actually did, we went into a i actually did, we went into a lockdown as soon as we could the first time —
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lockdown as soon as we could the first time around and we sensibly went— first time around and we sensibly went for— first time around and we sensibly went for a — first time around and we sensibly went for a regional approach when the disease picked up again, and then— the disease picked up again, and then again — the disease picked up again, and then again went into lockdown. 2020 will be for the _ then again went into lockdown. 2020 will be for the history _ then again went into lockdown. liz: will be for the history books, those leading the country reflected on the significance of what happens. you have to be — significance of what happens. gm. have to be realistic about 2020. the whole year, that whole tragic, tragic year, we did lockdown, but thenit tragic year, we did lockdown, but then it bounced back. the hearing was shown _ then it bounced back. the hearing was shown at _ then it bounced back. the hearing was shown at film _ then it bounced back. the hearing was shown at film showing - then it bounced back. the hearing was shown at film showing those | then it bounced back. the hearing - was shown at film showing those most affected by covid. taste was shown at film showing those most affected by covid.— affected by covid. we need answers. ho -e affected by covid. we need answers. hope hopefully _ affected by covid. we need answers. hope hopefully they _ affected by covid. we need answers. hope hopefully they will _ affected by covid. we need answers. hope hopefully they will learn - affected by covid. we need answers. hope hopefully they will learn from | hope hopefully they will learn from it, because i wouldn't wish this on anybody — it, because i wouldn't wish this on an bod . it, because i wouldn't wish this on an bod. , ., ., , anybody. those bereaved families wanted more _ anybody. those bereaved families wanted more opportunity - anybody. those bereaved families wanted more opportunity to - anybody. those bereaved families wanted more opportunity to have | wanted more opportunity to have their voices heard, often standing outside in protest. i
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their voices heard, often standing outside in protest.— their voices heard, often standing outside in protest. i want to leave this feeling _ outside in protest. i want to leave this feeling like _ outside in protest. i want to leave this feeling like the _ outside in protest. i want to leave this feeling like the government l outside in protest. i want to leave i this feeling like the government did the best they possibly could, and not thinking what if, and that's not how i'm feeling right now. that not thinking what if, and that's not how i'm feeling right now. at times, makin: how i'm feeling right now. at times, making themselves _ how i'm feeling right now. at times, making themselves heard _ how i'm feeling right now. at times, making themselves heard inside - how i'm feeling right now. at times, making themselves heard inside the j making themselves heard inside the enquiry itself. haifa making themselves heard inside the enquiry itself-— enquiry itself. how sorry i am for the ain enquiry itself. how sorry i am for the pain and _ enquiry itself. how sorry i am for the pain and the _ enquiry itself. how sorry i am for the pain and the loss _ enquiry itself. how sorry i am for the pain and the loss and - enquiry itself. how sorry i am for the pain and the loss and the - the pain and the loss and the suffering. the pain and the loss and the suffering-— the pain and the loss and the sufferin. .,, , ., , .,, suffering. please sit down, please sit down and _ suffering. please sit down, please sit down and i'm _ suffering. please sit down, please sit down and i'm afraid _ suffering. please sit down, please sit down and i'm afraid you'll - suffering. please sit down, please sit down and i'm afraid you'll havej sit down and i'm afraid you'll have to leave _ sit down and i'm afraid you'll have to leave the hearing room. i'm sorry. — to leave the hearing room. i'm sorry. if— to leave the hearing room. i'm sorry. if you _ to leave the hearing room. i'm sorry, if you don't sit down i will ask the — sorry, if you don't sit down i will ask the artist to get you to leave. for relatives, hearing more details of covid rule breaking in government would have been particularly hard. i continue to regret very much what happened, but i really want to emphasise when you talk about the impression, the version of events
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that has entered the popular consciousness about what is supposed to have happened in downing street is i to have happened in downing street isi million miles from the reality of what actually happened in number ten. a ., ., ., , ten. helen mcnamara, herself later find in the party _ ten. helen mcnamara, herself later find in the party gate _ ten. helen mcnamara, herself later find in the party gate scandal, - find in the party gate scandal, painted a wider picture of dysfunction. i painted a wider picture of dysfunction.— painted a wider picture of dysfunction. painted a wider picture of d sfunction. ., ., ., dysfunction. i would find it hard to ick one dysfunction. i would find it hard to pick one day _ dysfunction. i would find it hard to pick one day when _ dysfunction. i would find it hard to pick one day when the _ dysfunction. i would find it hard to pick one day when the regulations | pick one day when the regulations were followed properly inside the building, and i know that because as i sat on my statement, there was one meeting where we absolutely adhered to the guidance, to the letter, and that was the cabinet meeting, and everybody moaned about it. what that was the cabinet meeting, and everybody moaned about it. what did we learn that — everybody moaned about it. what did we learn that from _ everybody moaned about it. what did we learn that from this _ everybody moaned about it. what did we learn that from this part _ everybody moaned about it. what did we learn that from this part of- everybody moaned about it. what did we learn that from this part of the i we learn that from this part of the enquiry? the personalities and sides in the rows in downing street grab the headlines. at the centre of it although, difficult balancing act, on one hand, officials trying to contain a virus, while on the other,
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trying to protectjobs in the economy, all this while not knowing when or even if a vaccine would ever come along. when or even if a vaccine would ever come along-— when or even if a vaccine would ever| come along-_ it come along. thank you everybody. it will now be — come along. thank you everybody. it will now be up _ come along. thank you everybody. it will now be up to _ come along. thank you everybody. it will now be up to the _ come along. thank you everybody. it will now be up to the baroness - will now be up to the baroness to decide whether the government got that balance right and what we can learn for the future. with her verdict on this crucial second part of the enquiry is due around the end of the enquiry is due around the end of 2024. good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. 0ur headlines today: the israeli army says it's mistakenly killed three hostages during fighting in gaza. the country's prime minister called their deaths an "unbearable tragedy".
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friends actor matthew perry's death has been ruled as an accident, caused by the "acute effects of the drug ketamine". a british teenager who was found in france six years after he disappeared expected to return home this weekend. good morning. in sport, the pressure increases on the nottingham forest manager after steve cooper's side are beaten at home by spurs and are winless since early november. it's the strictly final: we talk to the remaining three couples hoping to lift the glitterball trophy. and good morning. for many of us, it's a cloudy and a mild day but there is rain in the forecast. i'll bring you the full details throughout the programme. it's saturday the 16th of december. our main story: the israeli military says it's mistakenly killed three hostages in gaza, after they
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were misidentified as a "threat". protests took place in tel aviv following the killings, which are now under investigation. the men were abducted by hamas — designated a terror organisation by the uk — during its attack on southern israel in october. 0ur middle east correspondent lucy williamson has this report. israel's army is in gaza to kill hamas fighters and bring hostages home. clear targets obliterated in the chaos of conflict. three of those shot dead in the northern district of shejaiya not hamas gunmen, but the captives israel came to save. one of them was yotam haim, 28 years old, a drummer with a heavy metal band, kidnapped from kibbutz kfar aza. his mother spoke to the bbc last month. they are talking about to release few here, few there. i know that they are playing with us, with our minds,
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with our hearts. we must hope. another of those killed was 25—year—old samer al—talalka, the eldest son of ten children from kfar hura, who worked with his father and brother in a hatchery and loved motorcycles. and alon shamriz, kidnapped from kfar aza. israel's army said yotam, samer and alon were mistakenly identified as a threat. prime minister benjamin netanyahu called it an "unbearable tragedy". israel's armed forces are once again bearing the weight of their failure to protect. translation: the idf mistakenly identified three kidnapped israelis| as a threat. the force fired at them and they were killed. after the shooting, an immediate suspicion arose about the identity of the dead and their bodies were quickly transferred for examination in israel and there,
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the hostages were identified. the torment expressed by the families of hostages has cut deeper tonight. already angry with israel's prime minister for not negotiating the release of more hostages, they also have his promise ringing in their ears that israel's military campaign in gaza would help bring their relatives home. lucy williamson, bbc news, jerusalem. let's get the latest now from our security correspondent frank gardner, who's injerusalem. we saw the pictures there of the protests, understandably there is much frustration, and anger, from families waiting for their loved ones to be returned? yeah, i mean, look, let's be really clear about this — the ultimate blame for their deaths lies with hamas abducted them in the first place but this is clearly a really painful moment for israelis. the
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prime minister here said the whole nation is in sorrow, they are mourning this. this is what the military called a blue on green, it's a tragic mistake. these were three young men dressed in civilian clothes who were mistaken by the idf, the israeli soldiers, for hamas fighters, so they had fired towards them, thinking they were engaging hamas gunman and appeared to either have been abandoned by their capitals or have escaped so it's even more tragic in that sense —— their capitals. what you saw in that piece in tel aviv last night, the protests go beyond the incident, this tragic incident, it goes to the heart of the debate, the dilemma as to what is the best way to get the remaining 100 plus hostages out of captivity in gaza. the israeli war cabinet seems to think the best way is to put military pressure on hamas, to press on with their offensive, to drive right into the heart of khan younis and kill or capture hamas leaders. the relatives
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are not at all sure that is the best way at all because if you look at it, when there was that pause of seven days, they got over 100 poste —— hostages out by negotiation and of course israel has to give up something when that happens and they've had to release a large number of palestinian prisoners and allow in more aid but that is something that is really vexing these relatives because they are not seeing hostages coming out from this military campaign and they want to get their loved ones back.- get their loved ones back. indeed. frank, get their loved ones back. indeed. frank. thank— get their loved ones back. indeed. frank, thank you _ get their loved ones back. indeed. frank, thank you so _ get their loved ones back. indeed. frank, thank you so much. - the time now is 7:06 and charlie will bring us an update on the death of matthew perry which in the last few months we have heard about, tragic news, but an update in terms of the course? that's right, a real shock to a lot of people when it happened. the death of friends actor matthew perry was an accident caused by the effects of ketamine, according to medical officials in los angeles. the 54—year—old was found unconscious in a hot tub at his house in october. shingai nyoka has the details.
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matthew perry, who was best known for playing chandler bing in the hit comedy series friends, was open about his struggles with addiction to painkillers and alcohol. a los angeles coroner has now ruled that his death was an accident caused by the acute effects of the drug called ketamine. now, ketamine is an anaesthetic, but it's also sometimes used as a recreational drug. according to the toxicology report, he had been taking ketamine infusion therapy for anxiety as well as depression, but that the amount that was found in his system at the time of death was really high and was similar to that needed for a general anaesthetic and would have caused problems with his breathing. the other contributing factors to his death include drowning, a coronary artery disease, as well as the effects of another drug that is used to treat opioid addiction.
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the 54—year—old actor was found in a hot tub, unresponsive, at his home in los angeles in october and a post—examination was inconclusive at the time. the metropolitan police says it will "carefully consider" the ruling that prince harry and others close to him were victims of phone hacking by mirror group newspapers. yesterday, a high courtjudge found the practice was "widespread and habitual" at the publisher's titles, and awarded the duke of sussex more than £1a0,000 in damages. prince harry is now calling for a criminal investigation to be reopened. donald trump's former personal lawyer has been ordered to pay more than £100 million in damages to two women he falsely accused of election fraud. rudy giuliani claimed the mother and daughter, who both worked at a polling station in georgia, had tampered with votes during the 2020 presidential election. the rac says petrol prices have dropped to the lowest level
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at the pump for more than two years because of falling wholesale costs. a litre of fuel costs an average of £1.43 — that's 10 pence cheaper than this time last year. a british teenager who was missing for six years is expected to fly home this weekend. alex batty disappeared while on a family holiday to spain with his mother and grandfather in 2017. our correspondent simon jones has more. alex batty was 11 years old when he last saw his grandmother in oldham in 2017 but this weekend, they're set to be reunited after six years apart. susan caruana, who's alex's legal guardian, thought this day might never come. in a statement, she said:
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alex was found earlier this week on this road in southwest france after leaving the commune he'd been living in. translation: when his mother suggested that she was thinking | of leaving for finland with him, this young man realised it was time for this journey to come to an end and he decided to leave the place where he was staying with his mother and walk for four days and four nights. it was back in 2017 that alex disappeared with his mother and grandfather, who weren't his legal guardians. his grandfather is believed to have died six months ago. they had left oldham for a holiday in marbella on the 30th of september. alex was last seen the following month in malaga on the day they were due to fly home. the next february, alex's grandmother said she believed he'd been taken by his mother to morocco to live with a spiritual community. the french police say they could've been there for two years before moving to spain and then coming to france and living
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with a travelling community in the pyrenees mountains. but this week, he was found by a passing driver and was taken to revel, then to toulouse, and handed over to the police. experts say he'll now need help to readjust to life in the uk. i would want to understand his story and what sense he makes of it. i'd want to think about how we can build up skills and tools to reintegrate him into society outside of the community. alex is expected to leave toulouse for the uk later today or tomorrow. the whereabouts of his mother remain unknown. simon jones, bbc news. our foreign correspondent bethany bell is in toulouse for us this morning. good morning to you. there's clearly a lot of interest in this story but at the heart it is a young man and there will be a great deal of effort to protect his privacy? yes. there will be a great deal of effort to protect his privacy?— to protect his privacy? yes, his grandmother — to protect his privacy? yes, his grandmother has _
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to protect his privacy? yes, his grandmother has appealed - to protect his privacy? yes, his grandmother has appealed to i to protect his privacy? yes, his i grandmother has appealed to the public to respect the privacy of alex as they welcome him home. that's expected to take place sometime this weekend. meanwhile here in toulouse, we've been hearing more about the public prosecutor in charge of this case who said that alex appeared composed and intelligent. he and his mother and grandfather appear to have been on the move constantly. they were part of what the authorities describe as a spiritual commune, a small group wandering around doing odd jobs and carrying their own solar panels. initially, they were in morocco then most recently, in the french pyrenees, an area known for people looking for alternative lifestyles. the crunch point really seems to have come for alex when his mother decided, said she wanted to go to finland. he felt that that was enough and then maybe efforts to
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reach out —— made the efforts to reach out —— made the efforts to reach out —— made the efforts to reach out and end this particular lifestyle and now we understand he will be reunited with his grandmother over the next day or two. ., .. grandmother over the next day or two. ., ~' , ., rishi sunak will hold talks with the leaders of italy and albania today during a visit to rome with illegal migration expected to be high on the agenda. our correspondent davide ghiglione is in rome for us. davide, what do we expect will be discussed today? good morning. rishi sunak is seen very much as the special guest of today. he is coming for a right—wing conference organised by giorgia meloni, the italian prime minister. before the event, he is expected to see her at her official residence, where the leaders are expected to
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discuss their shared efforts to tackle illegal migration. we've been seeing that the relationship between the two leaders has blossomed this year and that they do share the same agenda to tackle illegal migration into europe. at a meeting in downing street last april, they said that they shared the same values, that they shared the same values, that the countries were very aligned. we know that both italy and the uk are trying to find alternative solutions to regulate the influx of migrants. the uk and rishi sunak have been trying to revive a plan to send asylum seekers to rwanda but also, italy signed a deal with albania about one month ago to build two migrant processing centres there and
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although there have been legal and technical difficulties for both, the message they are sending to the voters is very clear that they want to say no to illegal migration, so that will be on the agenda today mainly for them.— that will be on the agenda today mainly for them. it is quarter past seven. yesterday on breakfast, we told you about the 1920s vintage christmas tree that was going under the hammer in oxfordshire. well, the artificial tree that was bought more than 100 years ago in woolworths for just sixpence has sold for £2,600. hansons auctioneers said it was an "astonishing" price for "the humblest christmas tree in the world". i don't agree that it is the humblest christmas tree in the world, i think it's fabulous, very
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beautiful, very simple. lots of you were sending your favourite old decorations, lots of you are sending those in, we may show you some more later in the programme.— later in the programme. what's your verdict on the _ later in the programme. what's your verdict on the tree _ later in the programme. what's your verdict on the tree simon? - later in the programme. what's your verdict on the tree simon? not - later in the programme. what's your verdict on the tree simon? not for i verdict on the tree simon? not for me. i like verdict on the tree simon? not for me- i like a _ verdict on the tree simon? not for me. i like a lot— verdict on the tree simon? not for me. i like a lot more _ verdict on the tree simon? not for me. i like a lot more decoration. i verdict on the tree simon? not forj me. i like a lot more decoration. a bit more foliage? yeah. _ me. i like a lot more decoration. a bit more foliage? yeah. was - me. i like a lot more decoration. a bit more foliage? yeah. was that i bit more foliage? yeah. was that bind ou? bit more foliage? yeah. was that bind you? a _ bit more foliage? yeah. was that bind you? a beach _ bit more foliage? yeah. was that bind you? a beach i _ bit more foliage? yeah. was that bind you? a beach i think. - bit more foliage? yeah. was that bind you? a beach i think. you i bit more foliage? yeah. was that. bind you? a beach i think. you are so tood, bind you? a beach i think. you are so good. your— bind you? a beach i think. you are so good, your insides _ bind you? a beach i think. you are so good, your insides are - so good, your insides are marvellous this morning — so good, your insides are marvellous this morning. it�*s so good, your insides are marvellous this morning-— this morning. it's a cloudy picture because it — this morning. it's a cloudy picture because it will stay _ this morning. it's a cloudy picture because it will stay cloudy - this morning. it's a cloudy picture because it will stay cloudy for - because it will stay cloudy for the next couple of days but read that it is mild, you will notice that temperatures are under for this time of year, 7— 10 celsius for the weekend, for the weekend we are looking at temperatures of 12— 13 degrees because the air is coming from the as yours, you can see the
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rnc are moving up to the united kingdom, but this is a moist direction, we have this weather front moving towards the north and west of scotland, and it is here where it will stick around for the weekend, bringing some high rainfall totals, particularly towards the highlands, so it's here where there is an amberwarming highlands, so it's here where there is an amber warming in force, we could see up to 200 millimetres of rain in the highlands, leading to flooding and travel disruption, that rain will move in its way through the morning, perhaps a few outbreaks for southern scotland, northern ireland and the coast of wales, but on the whole for most of us it's a dry day, yes it will be cloudy but they will be a few breaks in the cloud particularly towards the east of higher ground and temperatures get up to about 12 or 13 celsius. that ran continuing across the north—west of scotland and elsewhere we will have lots of cloud, drizzle around coastal areas but it will be
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mailed, temperatures, nine, ten, 11 degrees so higher than they would be for daytime temperatures at this time of year into sunday morning. as the rain continues, heavy rain, the rain could edge its way further southward into southern scotland, northern england later on sunday but for many of us, a dry day, a breezy day but a better chance of seeing some sunnier brighter spells into the afternoon and temperatures get up the afternoon and temperatures get up to about ten ivan i3 celsius, so, how about next week, the run—up to christmas and we will see things stay a little unsettled, some weather fronts around on monday, rain moving in on tuesday, then i pressure builds from the southwest giving us a north—westerly airflow, bringing wintry showers to northern areas, temperatures dropping into next week, so down into single figures, particularly as we go into the end of the weekend of christmas eve, we will see colder air, and the
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question everyone is asking me at the moment, will it be a white christmas? i will show you this charge here, colder add to the north, mailed out to the south, the boundary of that is across the uk, but with this situation that could be some snow over the higher ground of scotland but there is still a few days off, so that boundary could change, we will have to wait and see. ., , , change, we will have to wait and see. ., ,, , change, we will have to wait and see. .,,.,_, ,, change, we will have to wait and see. .,,.,_, , �*, ., see. probably is maybes, f's and butts. see. probably is maybes, f's and butts- that's _ see. probably is maybes, f's and butts. that's what _ see. probably is maybes, f's and butts. that's what i'm _ see. probably is maybes, f's and butts. that's what i'm good - see. probably is maybes, f's and butts. that's what i'm good at! i butts. that's what i'm good at! thanks for— butts. that's what i'm good at! thanks for all _ butts. that's what i'm good at! thanks for all the _ butts. that's what i'm good at! thanks for all the fides! - the metropolitan police says it will "carefully consider" the ruling that prince harry, and others close to him, were victims of phone hacking and unlawful information gathering. eight years ago, prosecutors concluded there was insufficient evidence to charge anyone in relation to phone hacking at the mirror group's three national titles. now, the duke of sussex is calling for that criminal investigation to be reopened. his lawyer gave this statement outside court yesterday following the judgement. (tx
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today's ruling is vindicating and affirming. i have been told that slaying dragons will get you burned, but in light of today's rectory and the importance of doing what is needed for a adonis press, it is a worthwhile price to pay stop in the mission continues. the company which now owns the papers has apologised unreservedly. the judge also said the former editor of the mirror, piers morgan knew about the practice — something he has vigorously denied. i also want to reiterate as i have consistently said for many years, i've never had a phone or told everybody else to hack a phone and no—one has produced any evidence prove that i did. i wasn't called as a witness, and it is important to be this but either side in the case, nor was i asked to provide a statement. i would have happily agreed to do either or both of those things had i been asked. man
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agreed to do either or both of those things had i been asked.— things had i been asked. won a very aood things had i been asked. won a very good morning _ things had i been asked. won a very good morning to _ things had i been asked. won a very good morning to you _ things had i been asked. won a very good morning to you godwin. - things had i been asked. won a very good morning to you godwin. a - good morning to you godwin. a groundbreaking judgement, good morning to you godwin. a groundbreakingjudgement, help good morning to you godwin. a groundbreaking judgement, help us, who were not versed in law about the significance of this judgement in itself. significance of this 'udgement in itself. ., , . , significance of this 'udgement in itself. ., , , ., itself. the main significance is not a leual itself. the main significance is not a legal one. _ itself. the main significance is not a legal one. a _ itself. the main significance is not a legal one, a lot _ itself. the main significance is not a legal one, a lot of _ itself. the main significance is not a legal one, a lot of this _ itself. the main significance is not a legal one, a lot of this law - itself. the main significance is not a legal one, a lot of this law has i a legal one, a lot of this law has been ventilated in otherjudgements before this one, what is significant is the fact that it is the duke of sussex, the fact that there was a trial, in other words, a case where all the evidence was presented before a judge, over reliability as to whether someone has done something unlawful and if so,, and we have a judgement which looks at all the evidence in exhaustive detail, it's not all about prince
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harry, but a lot of it is, or a lot of it relates to his case, and it gives us conclusive findings by a judge having heard all the evidence including prince harry himself who was cross—examined and tells us what the judges thinking about the rights and wrongs of it, that's the real significance. and wrongs of it, that's the real significance-— and wrongs of it, that's the real significance. what of those other individuals who _ significance. what of those other individuals who want _ significance. what of those other individuals who want to - significance. what of those other individuals who want to bring - significance. what of those other i individuals who want to bring claims forward but have not reached this point yet? how does it relate to that? , , ., , , that? firstly, and this is quite important. — that? firstly, and this is quite important. as— that? firstly, and this is quite important, as not _ that? firstly, and this is quite important, as not all- that? firstly, and this is quite important, as not all 1-way i that? firstly, and this is quite - important, as not all 1-way traffic, important, as not all i—way traffic, thisjudgement, one of important, as not all i—way traffic, this judgement, one of the things thejudge said was this judgement, one of the things the judge said was a lot of the claims which are being brought to some extent our stay, in other words, his resolve certain issues about what's called limitations where the claims have been brought within the relevant period the law provides to allow people to bring claims and he's decided they can't be brought so a lot of them will go a. another thing i will say and i
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should say, about 100 cases waiting in the wings, of that kind. i would also say there's a lot of other cases which people might wish to bring which looks to me like that would be brought now, they could not be brought in the light of the judge's rulings, but there are still very substantial number of cases, maybe 70 cases which still have to be resolved or tried.— maybe 70 cases which still have to be resolved or tried. people will be well aware that _ be resolved or tried. people will be well aware that this _ be resolved or tried. people will be well aware that this is _ be resolved or tried. people will be well aware that this is a _ be resolved or tried. people will be well aware that this is a civil- well aware that this is a civil case, this is not a criminal court. just explained to us, what is in principle the difference and whether you think now it is more likely that any of these issues, once again go to criminal court?— to criminal court? yes, well these are claims— to criminal court? yes, well these are claims for— to criminal court? yes, well these are claims for damages _ to criminal court? yes, well these are claims for damages and - to criminal court? yes, well these i are claims for damages and effects, these are people suing the newspaper group saying you've done something
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wrong, you need to compensate me for that wrong financially. the type of cases called misuse of private information which has become an established feature of english law since effectively the human rights act came into force on the laws interpreted that in the case of naomi campbell with some of your viewers may remember. the difference between out in a criminal case is a criminal cases brought by the crown with the police investigate and ultimately if it results in anything it results in people going to prison being fined, so the two are quite different. thisjudgement makes being fined, so the two are quite different. this judgement makes a series of quite significant findings about unlawful activity which may also be criminal. that is why i think is a proper basis for an investigation to be reopened by police because they can look at this judgement, see what the judge says, is analysed being in exhaustive detail and the police and cps have
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looked at it and have said is anyone committed a criminal offence? there will be some further investigation by the biggest difference, and it's a significant difference, in a criminal case, the case has to be established beyond reasonable doubt, so that the jury is sure. in civil cases at the balance of probability, that the difference in the burden, or rather the standard of proof required to make such a case in. taste required to make such a case in. we appreciate you taking us through the issues this raises. our media barrister, speaking to us this morning. what you think we are talking about now? i what you think we are talking about now? ., �* .. ., what you think we are talking about now? ., �* ~ ., ., , ., ~ what you think we are talking about now? ., �* 4' ., ., , ., ~' i., now? i don't know, does it take you back? after 12 weeks of fancy footwork and glamourous outfits — tonight, the winner of this year's strictly come dancing will lift the coveted glitterball trophy. layton williams,
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ellie leech and bobby brazier have been rehearsing all week for the final, and our entertainment reporter sophie van brugen has been to meet them. the final students remaining on this dance floor of macro 2023 other youngest yet. and they say they are delighted to have got this far. how would it feel to win?— would it feel to win? edward be amazin: would it feel to win? edward be amazing but — would it feel to win? edward be amazing but if _ would it feel to win? edward be amazing but if we _ would it feel to win? edward be amazing but if we don't, - would it feel to win? edward be amazing but if we don't, i- amazing but if we don't, i already do feel like i want, i have at the most incredible journey. do feel like i want, i have at the most incrediblejourney. if do feel like i want, i have at the most incredible journey.- do feel like i want, i have at the most incredible journey. most incredible 'ourney. if you win, it is the perfect — most incredible journey. if you win, it is the perfect well _ most incredible journey. if you win, it is the perfect well done, - most incredible journey. if you win, it is the perfect well done, you - it is the perfect well done, you earn, — it is the perfect well done, you earn, and _ it is the perfect well done, you earn, and also for the audience, everybody— earn, and also for the audience, everybody at home, the public, the majority— everybody at home, the public, the majority of— everybody at home, the public, the majority of them are behind you, all you have _ majority of them are behind you, all you have do — majority of them are behind you, all you have do is scream and thank the audience _ you have do is scream and thank the audience and cuddle. i think it will 'ust audience and cuddle. i think it will just feei— audience and cuddle. i think it will just feel like that, but maybe double — just feel like that, but maybe double that, you know, which i can't
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even _ double that, you know, which i can't even comprehend, it will be special. three _ even comprehend, it will be special. three words— even comprehend, it will be special. three words to summarise the strictly experienced.— three words to summarise the strictly experienced. good luck with that. wow. strictly experienced. good luck with that- blow joy _ strictly experienced. good luck with that. wow. joy and _ strictly experienced. good luck with that. wow. joy and distress. - strictly experienced. good luck with that. wow. joy and distress. i - strictly experienced. good luck with that. wow. joy and distress. ijust i that. wow. joy and distress. i 'ust aot that. wow. joy and distress. i 'ust not two. that. wow. joy and distress. i 'ust get two. life �* that. wow. joy and distress. i 'ust got two. life changing, �* that. wow. joy and distress. ijust| got two. life changing, genuinely, life changing _ got two. life changing, genuinely, life changing-— life changing. what is your one big takeawa ? life changing. what is your one big takeaway? l _ life changing. what is your one big takeaway? i think _ life changing. what is your one big takeaway? i think now, _ life changing. what is your one big takeaway? i think now, people i life changing. what is your one big i takeaway? i think now, people have reall seen takeaway? i think now, people have really seen my _ takeaway? i think now, people have really seen my personality, - takeaway? i think now, people have really seen my personality, they i really seen my personality, they have _ really seen my personality, they have seen — really seen my personality, they have seen me _ really seen my personality, they have seen me for— really seen my personality, they have seen me for me, _ really seen my personality, they have seen me for me, which- really seen my personality, they have seen me for me, which is. really seen my personality, they- have seen me for me, which is what i've have seen me for me, which is what we enjoyed, — have seen me for me, which is what we enjoyed, just— have seen me for me, which is what i've enjoyed, just being _ have seen me for me, which is what i've enjoyed, just being myself- have seen me for me, which is what i've enjoyed, just being myself for. i've enjoyed, just being myself for a little _ i've enjoyed, just being myself for a little while _ i've enjoyed, just being myself for a little while. the— i've enjoyed, 'ust being myself for a little while.— a little while. the show continues to crow a little while. the show continues to grow its _ a little while. the show continues to grow its fan — a little while. the show continues to grow its fan base _ a little while. the show continues to grow its fan base and - a little while. the show continues to grow its fan base and next - a little while. the show continues | to grow its fan base and next year it will be celebrating its 20th birthday and some of this year's finalists have onlyjust been born. it's as old as i am! i finalists have only 'ust been born. it's as old as i am!— it's as old as i am! i would have been three _ it's as old as i am! i would have been three years _ it's as old as i am! i would have been three years old. _ it's as old as i am! i would have been three years old. did - it's as old as i am! i would have been three years old. did you i it's as old as i am! i would have - been three years old. did you watch it when you — been three years old. did you watch it when you were _ been three years old. did you watch it when you were growing _ been three years old. did you watch it when you were growing up? - been three years old. did you watch it when you were growing up? it's i it when you were growing up? it's alwa s it when you were growing up? it's always been a huge part of my family. — always been a huge part of my family, my grandparents and parents have always wanted.—
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have always wanted. people love it, --eole have always wanted. people love it, people have — have always wanted. people love it, people have loved _ have always wanted. people love it, people have loved it _ have always wanted. people love it, people have loved it for _ have always wanted. people love it, people have loved it for as - have always wanted. people love it, people have loved it for as long - have always wanted. people love it, people have loved it for as long as i people have loved it for as long as i have been alive, they keep showing up, they maintain the enthusiasm, year after year. up, they maintain the enthusiasm, year after year-— year after year. what lovely messages _ year after year. what lovely messages have _ year after year. what lovely messages have you - year after year. what lovely messages have you heard i year after year. what lovely i messages have you heard from year after year. what lovely - messages have you heard from fans? we have had teachers reaching out, very simple story about a little boy who was seven years old, and he was embarrassed to wear his pink wife that he absolutely love to school, and the next day, he was like mum, i want my watch, and something so small like that, and just causes such a lovely, beautiful effect. it's been a very emotional series with dances dedicated to lost loved ones. , . . , with dances dedicated to lost loved ones. , ., . , ., with dances dedicated to lost loved ones. , .. , with dances dedicated to lost loved ones. , ., . , ., with dances dedicated to lost loved ones. , , ., , ones. this dance is a tribute to my mum. dobbie's _
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ones. this dance is a tribute to my mum. dobbie's mum _ ones. this dance is a tribute to my mum. dobbie's mum was - ones. this dance is a tribute to my mum. dobbie's mum wasjust - ones. this dance is a tribute to my - mum. dobbie's mum wasjust for when mum. dobbie's mum was 'ust for when she died from — mum. dobbie's mum was 'ust for when she died from cervical — mum. dobbie's mum wasjust for when she died from cervical cancer. - she died from cervical cancer. having the chance to do a dance to a song like that, i would absolutely take it, the way i feel about that song,it take it, the way i feel about that song, it was perfect, so it's quite scary, but i'm so glad that we did. what have you learned about yourself? what have you learned about ourself? �* ., ., , what have you learned about yourself?— what have you learned about ourself? ., yourself? before i was very scared ofthe yourself? before i was very scared of the unknown, _ yourself? before i was very scared of the unknown, and _ yourself? before i was very scared of the unknown, and now- yourself? before i was very scared of the unknown, and now i - yourself? before i was very scared of the unknown, and now i feel. of the unknown, and now i feel like i will embrace it, because if you say yes, at least you are giving yourself the opportunity, but if you say no, you may have passed up an opportunity that could have been amazing for you. hope opportunity that could have been amazing for you.— amazing for you. how would this chance amazing for you. how would this change your— amazing for you. how would this change your life? _ amazing for you. how would this change your life? i _ amazing for you. how would this change your life? i don't - amazing for you. how would this change your life? i don't think. amazing for you. how would this change your life? i don't think it | change your life? i don't think it will change _ change your life? i don't think it will change my _ change your life? i don't think it will change my life _ change your life? i don't think it will change my life at _ change your life? i don't think it will change my life at all, - change your life? i don't think it will change my life at all, i - change your life? i don't think it will change my life at all, i can i will change my life at all, i can still go and do things and ijust have to waive someone or give someone a week, but that's fine! nothing changes. the someone a week, but that's fine! nothing changes.— someone a week, but that's fine! nothing changes. the finalists have one last message. _ nothing changes. the finalists have one last message. remember, - one last message. remember, keep
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dancinu! there will be a lot of excitement, and one of my highlights is on the final programme, they have all the contestants coming back, so you will see right from the beginning, les dennis doing a group dance, i love that. ~ ., ., , ., dennis doing a group dance, i love that. ~ ., ., ., ., dennis doing a group dance, i love that. ., ., ., ., that. what have you got for us? contrasting _ that. what have you got for us? contrasting emotions. - that. what have you got for us? i contrasting emotions. something that. what have you got for us? - contrasting emotions. something has gone wrong, they have not... crosstalk. i didn't get that. thea;t crosstalk. i didn't get that. they are focusing _ crosstalk. i didn't get that. they are focusing on _ crosstalk. i didn't get that. they are focusing on the _ crosstalk. i didn't get that. tia: are focusing on the details crosstalk. i didn't get that. tta: are focusing on the details and trying to figure out what is going on but they haven't won since early november. good morning. so, tottenham are creeping back up the premier league table. they're fifth now, four points from the top, after winning 2—0 at nottingham forest. dejan kulusevski was outstanding for spurs, first setting up richarlison with a superb cross for their opener and then
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scoring their second himself after an error from the forest keeper matt turner, who sent a clearance straight into his path. tottenham have the champions league places in their sights but for forest, it's a fifth league defeat in six games, piling the pressure on boss steve cooper. there's obviously nothing good about the run of form we are in and we're not going to hide away from it and not going to hide away from it and not up to it but it's time to stand up not up to it but it's time to stand up and continue to be counted. i've got no complaints about the commitment from the guys tonight. i've got no real complaints about the general performance. what we are falling short at is the defining moments in the game to make a difference. we obviously went through a rough trot in— we obviously went through a rough trot in terms of results but our performance was still pretty strong and we _ performance was still pretty strong and we had a significant absence from _ and we had a significant absence from the — and we had a significant absence from the team but it's good to get another— from the team but it's good to get another win from the team but it's good to get anotherwin and from the team but it's good to get another win and it's a tough place to come. — another win and it's a tough place to come, they need a result as well and they— to come, they need a result as well and they test you in different ways here with — and they test you in different ways here with a — and they test you in different ways here with a lot of balls in the box, throw— here with a lot of balls in the box, throw ends— here with a lot of balls in the box, throw ends and corners and free
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kicks _ throw ends and corners and free kicks and — throw ends and corners and free kicks and we had to deal with that and i_ kicks and we had to deal with that and i thought we did so the full was good, _ and i thought we did so the full was good, we _ and i thought we did so the full was good, we scored two good goals. onto today, and if you've got, erling haaland in yourfantasy football team, you should have subbed him because he will again be missing from the manchester city team hosting crystal palace. his manager says they are assessing the norwegian's foot injury day by day but to be fair, in his absence, the young academy players who came into the team in the champions league in the week really impressed as the club maintains its knack of bringing in players at primary school age and ensuring they fulfil their potential. i know how important it is for our fans, of our people, to find, you know, the young [ads like rico, like phil, mike as well. so, all of them came from the seven, nine—year—olds. and to come into the first team
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is something phenomenal. so, we continue to work on that and hopefully in the future we can have more players. newcastle are at home to fulham this afternoon and manager eddie howe has been reflecting on his first champions league campaign. his side were knocked out at the group stage on wednesday after being beaten by ac milan at stjames' park. they were playing in europe for the first time in 20 years afterfinishing fourth in the premier league last season. howe says that was miles ahead of schedule and that is recognised by the club's owners. we are like a family. i know it's an overused cliche but we are, we're very close — notjust me with them but everybody connected with the club — so i think there is that feeling that they are very, very supportive of the players and understanding of how much they have given. everton will play at goodison park for another season before moving to their new stadium in 2025, due to commercial and logistical reasons and supporter feedback. today, they are at burnley, as sean dyche goes back to his former club for the first time. dyche is still a popularfigure
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at burnley, where there is a pub named after him, but is focus is now on everton and he won't find it hard to push sentiment aside. i am not really... people have loan —— nomia long time in football and i don't go into that sort of stuff. there's a massive respect to my time there and i always had a big respect and connection with people and the fans in all of that because of my time in the team's time but, to be honest, they want to win. next to late drama in rugby union as northampton snatched a win at the end of their european champions cup group game against toulon. two yellow cards for the french side reduced them to 13 players with less than five minutes left, and northampton took their chance, tom lockett going over to make it 22—19 and earning a bonus point as well. and there was a late winner as well for glasgow warriors — josh mckay giving them ai2—11win at french side bayonne.
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that's glasgow's first victory of the campaign. in the challenge cup, scarlets' miserable season continued with a shock loss to newcomers black lion. the welsh side opened the scoring in llanelli injust the fourth minute. but then, they were stunned by the georgian club, who scored 23 points without reply. scarlets have now lost seven of nine games in all competitions. england's women have been comfortably beaten by india in mumbai in their one—off test match. england were chasing a mammoth a79 to win but were dismissed forjust 131 with only two batters reaching 20 runs. so, if you can do the maths, they were beaten by 3a7 runs — a proper thrashing — and the team's wait for a test win goes on. it's been nearly a decade. if you were watching yesterday, you'll have seen we were live at alexandra palace ahead of the pdc world championship.
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a field of 96 darts players, including six former winners and the reigning champion michael smith, have gathered in london to compete for a first prize of £500,000, and smith, whose darts name is bully boy — it's to do with the bullseye — started the defence of the trophy last night. here he is, hitting a 180! it means the tournament sponsor will donate £1,000 to prostate cancer uk. but smith onlyjust managed to avoid a shock on the opening night, beating dutch qualifier kevin hawkeye doets 3—2, despite falling two sets behind. smith was in danger of becoming the first defending pdc champion to be knocked out in his opening match since 2009. one of the first—round contestants was cameron menzies, who's also a plumber, and he posted this before he headed to ally pally. doing his dayjob, he posted on social media: and then: and cammie made it through to round two, beating rusty—jake rodriguez,
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who threw his darts off the table when he went two sets down. look at what it means to him. clearly, a frustrating night for him — and menzies won 3—0. he's been dubbed the 'newjocky wilson' for his eccentric performances and his partner, fellow darts player fallon sherrock, was there to celebrate with him. she's also competing in the championship. menzies said the first one knocked out would be cooking the turkey! sounds like a good deal! and some big news because i can reveal your darts names. there is a generator and i think they are very good. i've done one for the three of us. drum roll, please. charlie's darts name is charlie hare bear. roll, please. charlie's darts name is charlie hare hear. you don't...? you are not impressed? you puffed up a little bit. second drum roll, please. naga no mercy munchetti.
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it's very good! you would play to win. you would not take it easy on me or charlie. mine is mike the badger and this is uncanny, my fantasy football team is social�*s badges, i have a fondness for them. you are not so impressed. i did not know you had a fondness for badges. absolutely. yeah. anyway. did not know that. you can generate your own darts name at home, just go to their website. do one for simon. i will do. i don't want him to feel left out. probably simon this no shower or snowman or something. —— the snow shower. i like it. thank you. earlier this year, 20 million people watched the coronation of king
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charles. now, viewers will get a chance to see exclusive footage of rehearsals for the big day in a new bbc documentary. camera crews followed the new king and queen as they prepared for the historic moment, offering viewers a unique insight into life beyond the palace gates. our royal correspondent daniela relph has more. fanfare this was the coronation we all saw. the elements that were broadcast. but behind the public pomp and pageantry were some very private moments. and the bbc cameras were there to capture a few of them. short steps. there to capture a few of them. short steps-— there to capture a few of them. short steps. coronation day final checks for queen _ short steps. coronation day final checks for queen camilla - short steps. coronation day final checks for queen camilla and i short steps. coronation day final| checks for queen camilla and her pages. checks for queen camilla and her “aes. a, a, pages. here we are, with all the lads. pages. here we are, with all the lads- her _ pages. here we are, with all the lads. her closest _ pages. here we are, with all the lads. her closest friends - pages. here we are, with all the lads. her closest friends and - lads. her closest friends and famil , lads. her closest friends and family. it — lads. her closest friends and family, it was _ lads. her closest friends and family, it was emotionally i lads. her closest friends and - family, it was emotionally charged day. it family, it was emotionally charged da . . , �* family, it was emotionally charged da. �* ., ., , day. it wasn't until we were already that we actually _
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day. it wasn't until we were already that we actually came _ day. it wasn't until we were already that we actually came together - day. it wasn't until we were already that we actually came together to l that we actually came together to see each other for the first time. she had not seen our dresses and did not know what we looked like and we hadn't seen her dress and it was a very special moment, when it was quite like a wedding, the bridesmaid going to see the bride. just quite like a wedding, the bridesmaid going to see the bride.— going to see the bride. just be careful of— going to see the bride. just be careful of the _ going to see the bride. just be careful of the dress. _ going to see the bride. just be careful of the dress. you - going to see the bride. just be | careful of the dress. you won't tread on my — careful of the dress. you won't tread on my dress. _ careful of the dress. you won't tread on my dress. that's - careful of the dress. you won't| tread on my dress. that's going careful of the dress. you won't - tread on my dress. that's going to be a problem _ tread on my dress. that's going to be a problem-— be a problem. behind the palace walls on coronation _ be a problem. behind the palace walls on coronation morning, - be a problem. behind the palace| walls on coronation morning, the king appeared remarkably relaxed. but for the queen's sister, mr republic event was something deeply personal. find republic event was something deeply ersonal. �* ., ,., . ,, republic event was something deeply ersonal. �* ., . ,, , personal. and i thought back being two ears personal. and i thought back being two years old _ personal. and i thought back being two years old and _ personal. and i thought back being two years old and watching - personal. and i thought back being two years old and watching the - two years old and watching the queen's coronation and on an entirely black television and there goes this golden coach with my sister in it. i cannot explain the
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feeling because it is so surreal and this cannot be happening. yeah, it was quite a moment. at this cannot be happening. yeah, it was quite a moment.— was quite a moment. of the real thing came _ was quite a moment. of the real thing came the _ was quite a moment. of the real thing came the rehearsals - was quite a moment. of the real thing came the rehearsals at - thing came the rehearsals at westminster abbey and even the most experienced participants didn't always get it right. hand experienced participants didn't always get it right.— always get it right. and the blessin: always get it right. and the blessing of— always get it right. and the blessing of god _ always get it right. and the blessing of god almighty, l always get it right. and the i blessing of god almighty, the father, the son and the holy spirit be amongst you and remain with you now and... that can't be right. always. you must have said this before! — always. you must have said this before! laughter. _ always. you must have said this before! laughter. be - always. you must have said this before! laughter._ always. you must have said this before! laughter. be with you! and remain with you _ before! laughter. be with you! and remain with you always. _ before! laughter. be with you! and remain with you always. amen. - remain with you always. amen. laughter. he remain with you always. amen. laughter-_ remain with you always. amen. laughter. ., ., . , laughter. he gave me a nice smiled, nodded his head _ laughter. he gave me a nice smiled, nodded his head but _ laughter. he gave me a nice smiled, nodded his head but that _ laughter. he gave me a nice smiled, nodded his head but that was - laughter. he gave me a nice smiled, nodded his head but that was a - nodded his head but that was a glitch. god save the king! god save the kina! glitch. god save the king! god save the king! it — glitch. god save the king! god save the king! it all— glitch. god save the king! god save the king! it all went _ glitch. god save the king! god save the king! it all went to _ glitch. god save the king! god save the king! it all went to plan - glitch. god save the king! god save the king! it all went to plan for - the king! it all went to plan for the king! it all went to plan for the actual— the king! it all went to plan for the actual coronation _ the king! it all went to plan for the actual coronation service . the king! it all went to plan for i the actual coronation service but
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the actual coronation service but the cameras give us a sense of the nerves, the laughs and the emotion behind this historic day. daniela relph, bbc news. you forget how much planning goes into stuff like that. and like most people i have never seen behind the scenes and the solemnity of the occasion and then, you see the rehearsals and what is going on, it is fascinating. charles iii: the coronation year will air on boxing day at 6:50pm on bbc one and iplayer. i don't know if you are aware of it but you are about to be given a darts name. mike is working on it. is he? it darts name. mike is working on it. is he? , ., ._ , is he? it is on the way. it is charlie hare _ is he? it is on the way. it is charlie hare bear— is he? it is on the way. it is charlie hare bear stayt. - is he? it is on the way. it is charlie hare bear stayt. it's is he? it is on the way. it is - charlie hare bear stayt. it's very, very good. one was no mercy. that's aood. very good. one was no mercy. that's good- yours — very good. one was no mercy. that's good- yours is _ very good. one was no mercy. that's good- yours is on — very good. one was no mercy. that's good. yours is on the _ very good. one was no mercy. that's good. yours is on the way. _ very good. one was no mercy. that's good. yours is on the way. crack- very good. one was no mercy. that's
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good. yours is on the way. crack on. | good. yours is on the way. crack on. look at good. yours is on the way. crack on. look at this! — good. yours is on the way. crack on. look at this! a _ good. yours is on the way. crack on. look at this! a lovely _ good. yours is on the way. crack on. look at this! a lovely sunrise. - good. yours is on the way. crack on. look at this! a lovely sunrise. some | look at this! a lovely sunrise. some cloud in the sky of course but the sun is rising, giving some lovely sunrise pictures from our weather watchers. it's pretty mild out there at the moment and for many of us it will be cloudy and breezy through the day but how mild? let's look at the day but how mild? let's look at the average temperatures for the time of year. seven or eight, up to 10 degrees but for the week ahead, about 12 or 13 degrees. why is it so mild? the air is coming in from the southwest, the azores. look orange pushing up from the atlantic across the uk. all of us under the influence of this mild weather. with it, a moist direction and with it, some rain stretching all the way into the atlantic and it will give significant rainfall totals to the north—west of scotland over the weekend, up to about 75— 200 millimetres. therefore, there is an amber warning from the met office in
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highland scotland and could be localised flooding and disruption because of it. gradually the rain will spread into the north—west of scotland and some patchy rain around the coasts of scotland, wales, the southwest of england and you may find the cloud breaks up to give a few bright spells, especially towards the east of wales and eastern parts of england and maximum temperature is about 12 or 13. on entry tonight, the rain will continue across the north—west of scotland but elsewhere, the cloud will come in but it will break up enough at times to give us some clearer spells but it won't be a cold night, those temperatures 7—10. overnight, those temperatures are higher than what we'd expect for daytime maximums. the rainfall once again about western scotland, could see some problems there. elsewhere on sunday quite a bit of cloud and breezy conditions and perhaps the cloud more likely to break up to give sunny spells into the afternoon
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on sunday but especially towards eastern scotland. 13 in aberdeen, 11 in london. next week, we will see some weatherfronts in london. next week, we will see some weather fronts moving through on monday but a bit more of a substantial system moves through on tuesday and could give heavy rain for england and wales but then a north—westerly airflow as we go through the week, bringing wintry showers perhaps towards the higher ground of scotland, northern england and elsewhere, a little more unsettled with temperatures dropping by the end of the week to about eight or nine so i bit chilia into christmas and of course christmas day everybody is asking me what is the weather like? will it be a white christmas? this sort of helps explain what is going on. call to the north, mild to the south and we have a dividing line which is where we could see some rain and potential snow so for some it could be a white christmas but a lot can change between now and christmas day.
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dart names, mike sent one through, but with that last bit of the forecast, i am giving you simon, on the fence king. forecast, i am giving you simon, on the fence king-— the fence king. that doesn't sound very flattering... _ the fence king. that doesn't sound very flattering... . _ the fence king. that doesn't sound very flattering... . simon - the fence king. that doesn't sound very flattering... . simon super - very flattering... . simon super kelly king. _ very flattering... . simon super kelly king. what _ very flattering... . simon super kelly king, what about - very flattering... . simon super kelly king, what about that? i very flattering... . simon super i kelly king, what about that? you don't _ kelly king, what about that? you don't have — kelly king, what about that? you don't have to like them, they're 'ust don't have to like them, they're just what— don't have to like them, they're just what they are.— don't have to like them, they're just what they are. we've made one u -. just what they are. we've made one u. foraet just what they are. we've made one up- forget about— just what they are. we've made one up. forget about the _ just what they are. we've made one up. forget about the simon, - just what they are. we've made one up. forget about the simon, just i just what they are. we've made one | up. forget about the simon, just the up. forget about the simon, 'ust the storm king. — up. forget about the simon, 'ust the storm king. fl up. forget about the simon, 'ust the storm king. that's h up. forget about the simon, 'ust the storm king. that's got h up. forget about the simon, 'ust the storm king. that's got a h up. forget about the simon, just the storm king. that's got a ring - storm king. that's got a ring to it, i like storm king. that's got a ring to it. i like it. — storm king. that's got a ring to it. i like it. can _ storm king. that's got a ring to it, i like it. can you _ storm king. that's got a ring to it, i like it. can you play— storm king. that's got a ring to it, i like it. can you play darts? - it, i like it. can you play darts? no i can't- _ it, i like it. can you play darts? no i can't- we _ it, i like it. can you play darts? no i can't. we could _ it, i like it. can you play darts? no i can't. we could set - it, i like it. can you play darts? no i can't. we could set up - it, i like it. can you play darts? no i can't. we could set up a l it, i like it. can you play darts? i no i can't. we could set up a little dartboard. — no i can't. we could set up a little dartboard, there's _ no i can't. we could set up a little dartboard, there's plenty - no i can't. we could set up a little dartboard, there's plenty of- no i can't. we could set up a little | dartboard, there's plenty of space. does the director like that idea? yes, he's in, we are all in. simon
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the storm — yes, he's in, we are all in. simon the storm king. _ yes, he's in, we are all in. simon the storm king, thank— yes, he's in, we are all in. simon the storm king, thank you - yes, he's in, we are all in. simon the storm king, thank you very i yes, he's in, we are all in. simon - the storm king, thank you very much. now on breakfast, it's time for newswatch. in an age of social media echo chambers, what the future of unbiased reporting. welcomed to news watch. also coming up on the programme, was the six o'clock news unfair to borisjohnson when he appeared at the covid enquiry? and was it over—the—top to devote to an a half hours on the bbc news channel to shoutjon mcshane mcgowan's funeral? the covid enquiry has been hearing from politicians and senior government officials in london before it moves on to scotland, wales and northern ireland. last week borisjohnson, the prime minister at the time of the pandemic arrived three hours early. here is how the six o'clock news began its
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coverage. at six, borisjohnson apologises for the way the government handled the pandemic, arriving at the covid enquiry under the cover of darkness, he admits that he should have tweaked it much sooner the need for action. several viewers wrote in to say they thought that was unfair,. we asked bbc news to respond to those complaints and they sent us this statement.
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the government's plans to send some migrants to rwanda if they arrive in the uk illegally has dominated the news in the past week. the new secretary visited and wanted to sign a treaty. the bbc�*s political at went along, but one viewer who do not leave his name thought chris should have stayed in the office. the home secretary arrived here in the rwandan capital in the last couple of hours, the third home secretary to visit rwanda in around about 18 months. i secretary to visit rwanda in around about 18 months.— about 18 months. i don't know about- -- _ about 18 months. i don't know about... inaudible. - about 18 months. i don't know about... inaudible. sending| about 18 months. i don't know - about... inaudible. sending people to rwanda this week is a waste of money. _ to rwanda this week is a waste of money, just to say a few words, how much _ money, just to say a few words, how much did _
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money, just to say a few words, how much did that cost? to money, just to say a few words, how much did that cost?— much did that cost? to be fair to cressy provided _ much did that cost? to be fair to cressy provided a _ much did that cost? to be fair to cressy provided a lot _ much did that cost? to be fair to cressy provided a lot more - much did that cost? to be fair to cressy provided a lot more than | much did that cost? to be fair to | cressy provided a lot more than a few words but we asked bbc news the comments. and divisive issue on news watch is how much coverage is given to famous people after their deaths. shane mcgowan died just as his hands famous christmas song was getting its annual airing. his funeral was held in county temporarily last friday and the bbc news channel broadcasted live for two and a half hours. a , broadcasted live for two and a half hours. , ., ., hours. marilyn, with the madonna, because shane _
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hours. marilyn, with the madonna, because shane was _ hours. marilyn, with the madonna, because shane was dedicated - hours. marilyn, with the madonna, because shane was dedicated to i hours. marilyn, with the madonna, l because shane was dedicated to our lady and we have this small statue of our lady on the hospital tray. many of you were not happy.
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we put those comments to bbc news, who gave us this statement in reply. this is our last programme of 2023 so we thought we would take stock of the year on news watch. it's striking how often viewers have e—mailed them with diametrically opposing accusations of bias after watching the same report on bbc news, especially if it's about the israeli gaza conflict orb uk party
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politics. to how people view impartial news, i'm joined politics. to how people view impartial news, i'mjoined byjane from the university of london and the former media editor of the garden. can i ask what's going on that people can alleged bias in opposite directions after viewing exactly the same coverage? in the landsca -e exactly the same coverage? in the landscape media _ exactly the same coverage? in the landscape media we _ exactly the same coverage? in the landscape media we are _ exactly the same coverage? in the landscape media we are living - exactly the same coverage? in the landscape media we are living in, l landscape media we are living in, there is so much in social media, people are increasingly getting evidence from others, and consuming news under filters that blur and echo our own views and thoughts, so rather than have two sides which is the basis of much public service journalism, there is much more one direction, which then becomes harder to stop and think about both sides,. what about some of the new
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terrestrial media, and digital media? so there's things like talk radio and tv channels like gb news, i wonder how far they are affecting audiences and perceptions of news impartiality? talk audiences and perceptions of news impartiality?— audiences and perceptions of news impartiality? talk tv and obviously there has been some _ impartiality? talk tv and obviously there has been some investigation | there has been some investigation into the issue of serving politicians acting as presenters, and we've had a couple enquiries by ofcom, so i think the broadcast speaker system is definitely changing, the last year has presented huge talents to the regulators in this country, and there is a lot of debate about whether if we allow this shift towards more opinionated television and how we allow it, do we go the way of the us? i5 and how we allow it, do we go the way of the us?— and how we allow it, do we go the way of the us? is there a sense that ofcom is changing _ way of the us? is there a sense that ofcom is changing our— way of the us? is there a sense that ofcom is changing our news - ofcom is changing our news impartiality? if you watch gb news you are expecting something different and therefore the
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standards are different? i think there will be _ standards are different? i think there will be the _ standards are different? i think there will be the really - there will be the really big challenge and i think they are dealing with that as we speak. aha, dealing with that as we speak. a lot of complaints this _ dealing with that as we speak. a lot of complaints this week about gary lineker�*s later social media remarks that a political. a former bbc news executive himself, told a parliamentary committee that he thought gary lineker had breached the brand—new bbc guidelines with those latest tweets about conservative mps, so maybe the guidelines need to be rewritten yet again, and is it still realistic that the bbc to impose impartiality rules on its non— news bbc staff? the bbc has got itself into a bit of a mess with this partly because the bbc is absolutely on the front line of anyone criticising, because the politics, maybe because it is paid for by the license fee, because the government as they did, as they
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appointed, or recommended the bbc chair, at the same time they have had funding agreements, the funding agreements they made several years before, it's a very harsh political climate for the bbc in the past 13 years, so i think they are in a particularly difficult place in terms of the way they are seen and held up, notjust because of the licensing, but because they are seen as the arbiter of broadcasting, but by then going to that extra step in seeing everyone, notjust journalists, should stick by impartiality, i think it's very difficult, bbc haves guidelines so recently, that they don't want to go back and all again, that's really difficult. is interesting, it's quite right that lineker did breach
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those guidelines by saying what he did about the government and refugees, it's going to be fascinating if that effects is contract, and the bbc and broadcasters will have to deal with that. ., , , , that. one other issue is the question — that. one other issue is the question of— that. one other issue is the question of how _ that. one other issue is the question of how effective i that. one other issue is the l question of how effective the that. one other issue is the - question of how effective the bbc is reporting on itself, when it becomes a news story as it often seems to, whether it is over gary lineker or the ongoing revelations about how the ongoing revelations about how the bbc and on the martin basheer investigation. over the many years, what i've always felt about the bbc and it happens time and time again as they do not report in themselves quite a long time, and then, when it becomes apparent that it is a big story, they reported to the nth degree, and we had that with martin basheer, lots of people knew about martin basheer, but it was never reported on, suddenly it's in the papers in the bbc, whole newsnight
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was to martin basheer, and i do think, unlike many newspapers, the bbc really does take reporting on itself and holding itself to account quite seriously, whether it always does that at the right time and to the right degree is up the question. jane martinson, thank you so much for coming on news watch. if you want to share your opinions about what you see or hear on bbc news, tv, radio, online and social media, e—mail the website below. do have a look at our website for previous interviews. that's all from us for 2023, thank you forjoining us, do think about getting in touch and
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good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today... the israeli army says it's mistakenly killed three hostages during fighting in gaza the country's prime minister called their deaths an "unbearable tragedy". friend's actor matthew perry's death has been ruled as an accident, caused by the 'acute effects of the drug ketamine'. a british teenager who was found in france six years after he went missing — is expected to return home this weekend. in sport...
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the defending champion keeps his cool. michael smith survives a huge scare, as he fights back, from two sets down to win, at the pdc world darts championship. the new doctor who tells us about the pressures of taking on such a high profile role. it's anxiety, from the moment i get up it's anxiety, from the moment i get up to— it's anxiety, from the moment i get up to the _ it's anxiety, from the moment i get up to the moment i go to bed. a up to the moment i go to bed. cloudy and mild day but i will bring you the forecast. it's saturday the 16th of december. our main story... the israeli military says it's mistakenly killed three hostages in gaza, after they were mis—identified as a "threat". protests took place in tel aviv following the killings which are now
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under investigation. the men were abducted by hamas designated a terror organisation by the uk during its attack on southern israel in october. our middle east correspondent lucy williamson has this report. israel's army is in gaza to kill hamas fighters and bring hostages home. clear targets obliterated in the chaos of conflict. three of those shot dead in the northern district of sharjah. not hamas gunmen, but the captives. israel came to save. one of them was yotam haim, 28 years old, a drummer with a heavy metal band kidnapped from kibbutz kfar aza. his mother spoke to the bbc last month. they are talking about release. i know that they are playing with us, with our minds,
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with our hearts. we must have hope. another of those killed was 25—year—old samah al talaq, the eldest son of ten children, who worked with his father and brother in a hatchery and loved motorcycles. israel's army, said yotam. samer and allen were mistakenly identified as a threat. prime minister benjamin netanyahu called it an unbearable tragedy. israel's armed forces are once again bearing the weight of their failure to protect the vulnerable. the idf mistakenly identified three kidnapped israelis as a threat. the force fired at them and they were killed.
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after the shooting and immediate suspicion arose about the identity of the dead and their bodies were quickly transferred for examination in israel and there the hostages were identified. the torment expressed by the families of hostages has cut deeper tonight. already angry with israel's prime minister for not negotiating the release of more hostages. they also have his promise ringing in their ears that israel's military campaign in gaza would help bring their relatives home. lucy williamson, bbc news, jerusalem. let's get the latest now from our security correspondent frank gardner, who's injerusalem. frank, what has the reaction been in israel to this news? first of all, let's make it absolutely clear, the ultimate blame for the death of these hostages lies with hamas. but this is devastating for the families and for the wider hostage community. it brings up the public debate of how is the best way to get these hostages out. there's been hundred hostages released. this
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was mediated by qatar, egypt and the united states and those negotiations got hostages out. but the government here, the war cabinet seems to think the best way is to put military pressure on hamas. that is not producing results. so this tragic mistake where they opened fired on these men thinking they were hamas fighters, dressed in civilian clothes, they were either abandoned by their captors all escaped and they were shot. it shows how dangerous it is trying to release these hostages by force.- dangerous it is trying to release these hostages by force. that's a security correspondent. - the death of friends actor matthew perry, was an accident caused by the effects of ketamine, according to medical officials in los angeles.
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the 54—year—old was found unconscious in a hot tub at his house in october. shingai nyoka has the details. matthew perry, who was best known for playing chandler bing in the hit comedy series friends, was open about his struggles with addiction to painkillers and alcohol. a los angeles coroner has now ruled that his death was an accident caused by the acute effects of the drug called ketamine. now, ketamine is an anesthetic, but it's also sometimes used as a recreational drug. according to the toxicology report, he had been taken ketamine infusion therapy for anxiety as well as depression, but that the amount that was found in his system at the time of death was really high and was similar to that needed for a general anesthetic and would have caused problems with his breathing. the other contributing factors to his death include drowning,
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coronary artery disease, as well as the effects of another drug that is used to treat opioid addiction. the 54—year—old actor was found in a hot tub and unresponsive at his home in los angeles in october, and a post—mortem examination was inconclusive at the time. the metropolitan police says it will "carefully consider" the ruling that prince harry, and others close to him, were victims of phone hacking by mirror group newspapers. yesterday, a high court judge found the practice was "widespread and habitual" at the publisher's titles, and awarded the duke of sussex more than £11!0,000 in damages. prince harry is now calling for a criminal investigation to be reopened. donald trump's former personal lawyer, has been ordered to pay more than £100 million in damages to two women he falsely accused of election fraud. rudy giuliani claimed the mother and daughter — who both worked at a polling station in georgia — had tampered
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with votes during the 2020 presidential election. the rac says petrol prices have dropped to the lowest level at the pump for more than two years, because of falling wholesale costs. a litre of fuel costs an average of £1.43 — that's10p cheaper than this time last year. a british teenager who was missing for six years is expected to fly home this weekend. alex batty disappeared while on a family holiday to spain with his mother and grandfather in 2017. our foreign correspondent bethany bell is in toulouse for us this morning. bethany, what more do we know? toulouse is the centre of the story because that's where prosecutors. tell us what happen next. what because that's where prosecutors. tell us what happen next. what they sa is that tell us what happen next. what they say is that alex _ tell us what happen next. what they say is that alex batty _ tell us what happen next. what they say is that alex batty is _ tell us what happen next. what they say is that alex batty is expected i say is that alex batty is expected to return home to the uk this weekend and they've also been giving
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us a picture of what is life, what his life was like over the last few years. it's understood he was constantly on the move with his mother and grandfather, over the french pyrenees, which is known to attract people who want to explore alternative lifestyles. they seemed to be part of what authorities describe as the spiritual communities. they carry their own solar panels, looked for odd jobs. then alex made the decision to stop it when his mother told him that she wanted to go to finland and that, the prosecutors say, was the moment where alex decided he wished to return to the united kingdom and his grandmother, who is in the uk, has appealed for privacy for her family as they welcome him back there.
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bethany, thank you very much. tv sports quiz show 'question of sport�* has been shelved after more than five decades. the bbc said that "due to inflation and funding challenges, difficult decisions have to be made" — but insisted there was a possibility that the programme could come back in the future. it was one of the most popular shows in the 1980s, with princess anne's guest appearance in 1987, attracting its highest ever viewing figures, of 19 million. the longest running sports quiz programme. but it's gone for now. here's simon with a look at this morning's weather.
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is it cold today? is going to feel quite mild. but with that mild day will come some significant rain from the north—west of scotland but for many of us, pretty cloudy out there at the moment. quite breezy. let's look at the average temperature. , but this weekend it's going to be more like 12. over the course of the weekend, why is it so mild? the air is coming all the way from these oranges here. picking up from the south—west and for all of us across the uk, we will be under the influence of that tropical air but there's quite a lot of moisture and this weather system that is moving into the north west of scotland, that will stick around into tomorrow and we could see about 200 millimetres falling in the highlands
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and because of that there is an amber warning from the met office that they could be some flooding and some disruption in western scotland. the rain is slowly edging its way and now. we could see a few spots of rain but otherwise fairly cloudy. a few bright, sunny spells. eastern scotland as well. temperatures 12-13 c. scotland as well. temperatures 12—13 c. through the night, the rain will continue across the north west of scotland with the wind is picking up. elsewhere, cloudy overnight with some rain across the north pennines. temperatures overnight, 8—12 c. higher than the daytime averages for the time of year. but there is that amber warning still in force across the west of scotland. bringing that heavy rain across the western areas but some drier, brighter weather
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across eastern scotland. the chance of seeing some sunny spells into the afternoon on sunday. temperatures 10-14 c. next afternoon on sunday. temperatures 10—11! c. next week? in the run—up to christmas, a few weather fronts moving from the south to the east. bringing a bit of rain to england and wales. then higher pressure builds in. colder as we go through next week, temperature 6—9 c by saturday and into christmas eve and of course, christmas day? is it going to be a white christmas? this could change but colder air to the north could bring some wintry snow showers but the position of that boundary can change and probably will do over the next few days. it's 13 minutes past eight.
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nearly 2,000 illegal vapes — many up to six times stronger than the legal limit, have been seized from shops in greater manchester. a team led by police officers and trading standards has been established, to tackle underage vaping and child exploitation. our correspondent abbiejones was given exclusive access to the operation. 3.30pm in the afternoon and children are hanging out after school in rochdale. some of them primary school age are openly vaping. we can't show their faces because of how young they are. then we meet this teenager. she turned 18 last month, but has been vaping since she was 16. she says her age has never stopped her. you can just go into any shop and they'lljust serve you. so it's easy. very easy. it's like ten—year—old kids just go to the shops and they'lljust serve you. you never get asked for it.
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i've never been once asked for an id. she shows me a social media site where vapes can be ordered online to your door like a takeaway delivery. you canjust message her and be like, drop me and e—cig off here, whatever e—cig you want, and then they'lljust bring it to you. this is the sunrise team, made up of police trading standards, children's services leading the way nationally in tackling child exploitation. tonight, it's targeting shops, selling vapes to children. you go in the shop, try and buy a vape, any vape that you want. a teenage tester�*s sent in to a store. minutes later, he's back with a vape. they'll give you one.
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so they've not asked for id. that seemed frighteningly easy. this is one of our biggest worries. you've got 14, i3, 15 year old children going in shops, get vapes. a short drive away the teenage tester does get another sale. but the team are also looking for illegal vapes, super strength, potent e—cigarettes that are particularly harmful to children. and in this store, they hit the jackpot. a secret stash in a hidden compartment behind a wall. the sort of sophistication you go to hide it. you can see my colleagues pull in the tap underneath. that's lifted the paneling up where these are hidden. these are 4000 plus puffs, really strong. so that's six times over the legal limit and they're advertising it as skittles as well. how worrying is it if a child gets hold of one of these? very because you don't know what's inside them. it could be anything. they're not being tested.
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so these are all the vapes that we've seen this afternoon, as a general rule, we look for compliant vapes being 600 to 800 puffs. some of the ones that we've seized today are 10,000 puffs. so that is incredibly strong. yes, it is. and as you can see from the colours and the flavours, these are all really child appealing. so that's what we're worried about, that these are getting into the hands of children as well as being really harmful for children's health. police say these vapes are also being used for a more sinister purpose to encourage children into criminal and sexual behaviour. vapes now because it's so easy to get become a big tool for sexual exploitation and criminal exploitation. young girls have been into shops to buy vapes, but it becomes the case that the shop owners are asking for sexual favours in return for vapes. local drug dealers, they get young males to start by selling vapes to the friends, and they sort of do it as a as a test then. so then it shows if these children are capable of selling, making money, and then that's when the drugs take over. the sunrise team can target physical shops. but what about the online dealers? it is quite challenging. it is one of the challenging areas of our operations. but we can trace offenders from from their social media,
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from their social media, which can bring us to addresses, names, telephone numbers, anything. more illegal vapes are carried to the van. these are now out of reach of children. but the team know more are out there. it's notjust a problem in rochdale, it's a nationwide problem. so we're going to continue doing these operations to disrupt the exploitation, obviously, and protect the vulnerable children. abbiejones, bbc news, rochdale. we're nowjoined by kate pike — the lead officerfor vaping at the chartered trading standards institute. good morning. seeing operations like this, you've conducted coordinated operations all around the country. what are you seeing? what we saw in that film is replicated across the entire country. we are seeing illegal vapes being concealed which
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is down to some of the successes that we've had in terms of our work. the shopkeepers now hide them away, put them behind... that the shopkeepers now hide them away, put them behind. . ._ put them behind... that secret anel? put them behind... that secret panel? yes- — put them behind... that secret panel? yes. in _ put them behind... that secret panel? yes. in some _ put them behind... that secret panel? yes. in some ways - put them behind... that secret panel? yes. in some ways that put them behind... that secret - panel? yes. in some ways that shows the effectiveness _ panel? yes. in some ways that shows the effectiveness of _ panel? yes. in some ways that shows the effectiveness of the _ panel? yes. in some ways that shows the effectiveness of the enforcement| the effectiveness of the enforcement we've been doing but it also shows that that shopkeeper knows they are illegal. they're not making a mistake, oran illegal. they're not making a mistake, or an accident. illegal. they're not making a mistake, oran accident. "i illegal. they're not making a mistake, or an accident. "i didn't know you couldn't sell them." thea;r know you couldn't sell them." they know you couldn't sell them." they know it's illegal. _ know you couldn't sell them." they know it's illegal. let's _ know you couldn't sell them." they know it's illegal. let's be _ know you couldn't sell them." they know it's illegal. let's be clear that it's illegal to sell any vape to a child?— to a child? yes. but those particular— to a child? yes. but those particular secon _ to a child? yes. but those particular secon max, - to a child? yes. but those| particular secon max, they to a child? yes. but those - particular secon max, they are illegal for anyone of any age. what's the deterrent? obviously, you've got those who are going to sell them or try to break the law but what other deterrents, the
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fines? if but what other deterrents, the fines? but what other deterrents, the fines? ., . but what other deterrents, the fines? . . ., ,., fines? if we have evidence of sale to children _ fines? if we have evidence of sale to children then _ fines? if we have evidence of sale to children then we _ fines? if we have evidence of sale to children then we can _ fines? if we have evidence of sale to children then we can prosecute j to children then we can prosecute and we will prosecute or we will take other action, sometimes we might do a forfeiture where they give up all there, well, they have them taken of them in the financial cost of that. we issue warnings which might not sound like very much but they add up and sometimes we can close a premises that persistently breaks the law. i close a premises that persistently breaks the law.— close a premises that persistently breaks the law. i was going to ask ou that breaks the law. i was going to ask you that question _ breaks the law. i was going to ask you that question because - breaks the law. i was going to ask you that question because you - breaks the law. i was going to askj you that question because you are breaks the law. i was going to ask i you that question because you are on the right side of this, trying to enforce the law, but is it your impression that a lot of shops, lots of them are selling to children, are making decisions in their own heads and we might get caught but even if we get caught we might get a fine but when making so much business that we will take the risk. are they
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calibrating like this? or could you do something where you shut shop for a wake. why are you not upping the jeopardy for the shop? i a wake. why are you not upping the jeopardy for the shop?— a wake. why are you not upping the jeopardy for the shop? i should make it really clear — jeopardy for the shop? i should make it really clear that _ jeopardy for the shop? i should make it really clear that the _ jeopardy for the shop? i should make it really clear that the vast _ it really clear that the vast majority of british retailers comply with the law. they want to. they are serving their communities and do not want to provide these products to children so, the vast majority... how do you know that? we've heard from a child who says they'd never been given id and has been being able to buy them since they were 1a. we actually do testing. you can
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check with an evidential test purchase. 50, it did i misunderstand something, if you hear a shop is selling to underage children, you let them know in advance that you will be checking?— let them know in advance that you will be checking? there are a number of wa s we will be checking? there are a number of ways we can _ will be checking? there are a number of ways we can do — will be checking? there are a number of ways we can do this. _ will be checking? there are a number of ways we can do this. we _ will be checking? there are a number of ways we can do this. we have - will be checking? there are a number of ways we can do this. we have to i of ways we can do this. we have to ensure that they know what the law is and they've got the policies. isn't it theirjob to know?- is and they've got the policies. isn't it theirjob to know? isn't it their 'ob to know? yes, but we want to — isn't it theirjob to know? yes, but we want to support _ isn't it theirjob to know? yes, but we want to support businesses - isn't it theirjob to know? yes, butj we want to support businesses but thenif we want to support businesses but then if we get intelligence to suggest they are selling then we look at ways of informing them that we are going to come in, that we are going to do a test purchase and then we would do the test purchase. see if we don't do that? then we are
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criticised for a trading standards stings. we are not supporting businesses, trying to catch people out. you are going to upset some people sometimes.— out. you are going to upset some people sometimes. some of these second max. _ people sometimes. some of these second max, six _ people sometimes. some of these second max, six times _ people sometimes. some of these second max, six times the - people sometimes. some of these second max, six times the legal i second max, six times the legal limit? —— vapes. what are these illegal ones? where is the incentive to sell these? 50. illegal ones? where is the incentive to sell these?— to sell these? so, they are, as you sa , the to sell these? so, they are, as you say. they may _ to sell these? so, they are, as you say. they may have _ to sell these? so, they are, as you say, they may have more - to sell these? so, they are, as you say, they may have more nicotinel say, they may have more nicotine liquid than the compliant ones and we really need to take steps to stop
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them before we come in. we do that with other products. the government are looking at mechanisms now where they could engage to stop them actually even coming into the country. many of the illegal ones, such as the ones with more liquid in our legal somewhere, such as the ones with more liquid in our legalsomewhere, in such as the ones with more liquid in our legal somewhere, in another country. so, in america they have higher levels of nicotine than we do here. so don't panic, oh my god, if you get one of these you might collapse because it's highly unlikely because if children were collapsing all over the place in america we would have heard about it. ~ ., america we would have heard about it. ~ . ., ., america we would have heard about it. we have regulation in place for a reason? — it. we have regulation in place for a reason? we _ it. we have regulation in place for a reason? we do, _ it. we have regulation in place for a reason? we do, to _ it. we have regulation in place for a reason? we do, to make - it. we have regulation in place for a reason? we do, to make sure i it. we have regulation in place for- a reason? we do, to make sure there are compliant — a reason? we do, to make sure there are compliant products _ a reason? we do, to make sure there are compliant products of _ a reason? we do, to make sure there are compliant products of the - are compliant products of the smokers looking to move away from smoking and there are some
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excellent, innovative products that really work as a quit date. but what we don't want is a legal product coming in. the government are currently looking at the mechanisms that allow the availability of some of these products, products that are attracted to children, tightening up regulations so they not called things like dragons breath. unicorn's breath. i things like dragons breath. unicorn's breath.— things like dragons breath. unicorn's breath. ., . unicorn's breath. i would imagine that would _ unicorn's breath. i would imagine that would be _ unicorn's breath. i would imagine that would be quite _ unicorn's breath. i would imagine that would be quite sweet. - unicorn's breath. i would imagine that would be quite sweet. thankj unicorn's breath. i would imagine - that would be quite sweet. thank you for takin: that would be quite sweet. thank you for taking us — that would be quite sweet. thank you for taking us step-by-step _ that would be quite sweet. thank you for taking us step-by-step to - that would be quite sweet. thank you for taking us step-by-step to the - for taking us step—by—step to the measures available to you. kate piec is from trading standards. it's been a0 years since the comedy drama 'auf wiedersehen pet�* first hit our screens — turning a group of geordies into household names. to celebrate the anniversary, the cast and crew are reuniting
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for a one off live theatre show — and a trip down memory lane. our correspondent sharuna sagar caught up with some of the stars behind the event. it was a classic tv series the nation tipped its heart. [30 it was a classic tv series the nation tipped its heart. do you lads come from — nation tipped its heart. do you lads come from round _ nation tipped its heart. do you lads come from round here? _ nation tipped its heart. do you lads come from round here? followingl nation tipped its heart. do you lads i come from round here? following the u -s and come from round here? following the ups and downs _ come from round here? following the ups and downs of _ come from round here? following the ups and downs of a _ come from round here? following the ups and downs of a motley _ come from round here? following the ups and downs of a motley crew - come from round here? following the ups and downs of a motley crew of. ups and downs of a motley crew of british men on a german building site. viewing figures hit nearly 20 million. ., , ., , site. viewing figures hit nearly 20 million. ., i. , �*, site. viewing figures hit nearly 20 million. ., , h , million. can you believe it's been 40 ears million. can you believe it's been 40 years since — million. can you believe it's been 40 years since the _ million. can you believe it's been 40 years since the beginning - million. can you believe it's been 40 years since the beginning of l million. can you believe it's been l 40 years since the beginning of the series? its 40 years since the beginning of the series? , ., ., ., , ., ., ., series? its extraordinary and no one that was involved _ series? its extraordinary and no one that was involved in _ series? its extraordinary and no one that was involved in the _ series? its extraordinary and no one that was involved in the show - series? its extraordinary and no one that was involved in the show could | that was involved in the show could have imagined that 40 years later we
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would _ have imagined that 40 years later we would be _ have imagined that 40 years later we would be sitting here talking about it and _ would be sitting here talking about it and preparing to celebrate it, 40 years— it and preparing to celebrate it, 40 years since — it and preparing to celebrate it, 40 years since its first screening. it's this— years since its first screening. it's this famous local landmark, that's where we fit in because we are going to pull it down and flog it for a fortune! i are going to pull it down and flog it for a fortune!— it for a fortune! i imagine that when you _ it for a fortune! i imagine that when you wait _ it for a fortune! i imagine that when you wait not _ it for a fortune! i imagine that when you wait not gigging - it for a fortune! i imagine that| when you wait not gigging with lindisfarne that you were also glued to the tv watching? it lindisfarne that you were also glued to the tv watching?— to the tv watching? it was amazing to the tv watching? it was amazing to see geordie _ to the tv watching? it was amazing to see geordie actors _ to the tv watching? it was amazing to see geordie actors being - to see geordie actors being themselves. the scripts were so good and it was gritty as well as being funny. and it was gritty as well as being funn . ~ ., �* , and it was gritty as well as being funn. and it was gritty as well as being | funny-_ where and it was gritty as well as being i funny._ where is funny. what's happening? where is everybody? — funny. what's happening? where is everybody? they — funny. what's happening? where is everybody? they are _ funny. what's happening? where is everybody? they are heading - funny. what's happening? where is everybody? they are heading back. j funny. what's happening? where is| everybody? they are heading back. i pulled _ everybody? they are heading back. i pulled the _ everybody? they are heading back. i pulled the search _ everybody? they are heading back. i pulled the search of— everybody? they are heading back. i pulled the search of tilled _ everybody? they are heading back. i pulled the search of tilled door. - everybody? they are heading back. i pulled the search of tilled door. —— l pulled the search of tilled door. —— at dawn _ pulled the search of tilled door. —— at dawn so — pulled the search of tilled door. -- at dawn. ., ., i. , at dawn. so what have you been doin: ?
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at dawn. so what have you been doing? stuffing _ at dawn. so what have you been doing? stuffing your— at dawn. so what have you been doing? stuffing your that - at dawn. so what have you been doing? stuffing your that here? | at dawn. so what have you been | doing? stuffing your that here? i can't imagine why they cast me! home, a good home. i can't imagine why they cast me! home, a good home.— can't imagine why they cast me! home, a good home. i was walking throuuh home, a good home. i was walking through the — home, a good home. i was walking through the set _ home, a good home. i was walking through the set one _ home, a good home. i was walking through the set one day _ home, a good home. i was walking through the set one day very - home, a good home. i was walking through the set one day very early| through the set one day very early and i was looking for some crusty underwear and the costume department broke down loads of knickers but none of them looked right. and then i saw kevin whately on set with these manky pair of y fronts. really grungy and i said, can i have a look at those knickers, kevin? i think i found a very important part of my costume! ., ., ., , ., ., costume! you are actually going to be auoin
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costume! you are actually going to be going down _ costume! you are actually going to be going down the _ costume! you are actually going to be going down the proper- costume! you are actually going to be going down the proper trip - be going down the proper trip down memory lane with this new show you've got going because you're going to be putting it on, aren't you? going to be putting it on, aren't ou? ~ �* ., going to be putting it on, aren't ou? . �* ., ., , going to be putting it on, aren't ou? ~ �* ., ., , ., you? we're going to try and encapsulate _ you? we're going to try and encapsulate all _ you? we're going to try and encapsulate all the - you? we're going to try and encapsulate all the great i you? we're going to try and i encapsulate all the great stuff, meet _ encapsulate all the great stuff, meet the cast, the crew, go back through— meet the cast, the crew, go back through the favourite bits, the bloopers — through the favourite bits, the bloopers and a chunk of music too? how much — bloopers and a chunk of music too? how much are you looking forward to it? ~ how much are you looking forward to it? . ., . ., how much are you looking forward to it? ~ ., . ., ., ., how much are you looking forward to it? . .. ., ., ., ., it? with a certain amount of trepidation. _ it? with a certain amount of trepidation. i'm _ it? with a certain amount of trepidation. i'm really- it? with a certain amount of i trepidation. i'm really looking forward — trepidation. i'm really looking forward to it. it is in may, isn't it? . ., ., ,, forward to it. it is in may, isn't it? . ., ., , , ., forward to it. it is in may, isn't it? ~ ., ., , , ., ., forward to it. it is in may, isn't it? . ., ., , , ., ., ., forward to it. it is in may, isn't it? what happened? you are meant to be a geordie? — it? what happened? you are meant to be a geordie? you've _ it? what happened? you are meant to be a geordie? you've got _ it? what happened? you are meant to be a geordie? you've got your - it? what happened? you are meant to be a geordie? you've got your coat i be a geordie? you've got your coat on! {of} be a geordie? you've got your coat on! $1 , . , be a geordie? you've got your coat on! i: , . , ., ., . be a geordie? you've got your coat on! $1, ., , ., ., ., , be a geordie? you've got your coat on! $1, . , ., ., . , . on! 40 years in london and become a soft southerner! _ on! 40 years in london and become a soft southerner! i'm _ on! 40 years in london and become a soft southerner! i'm a _ on! 40 years in london and become a soft southerner! i'm a huge _ on! 40 years in london and become a soft southerner! i'm a huge fan - on! 40 years in london and become a soft southerner! i'm a huge fan of - soft southerner! i'm a huge fan of the show and _ soft southerner! i'm a huge fan of the show and so _ soft southerner! i'm a huge fan of the show and so this _ soft southerner! i'm a huge fan of the show and so this is _ soft southerner! i'm a huge fan of the show and so this is fantastic i the show and so this is fantastic for me — the show and so this is fantastic for me i've _ the show and so this is fantastic for me. i've been walking the walk and dreaming the dream all through that. �* , , , and dreaming the dream all through that. and probably playing the drums? yes. _
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they still have a laugh, don't they? ijust they still have a laugh, don't they? i just love that story about oz�*s underpants. sharuna sagar reporting. as we've been hearing this morning — a 17—year—old british teenager, who has been missing for six years, is expected to fly home this weekend, after being found in france. alex batty left his home in greater manchester with his mother and grandfather on a pre—agreed holiday to marbella, in september 2017. he was last seen a week later at the port of malaga, on the day the trio were expected to return to the uk. in 2018, alex's grandmother, who is his legal guardian, said she believed he had been taken by his mother and grandfather to live in a spiritual community in morocco. police believe he could have been there for two years, before moving to spain and then onto france where he's thought
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to have lived in the foothills of the pyreneeses mountains. alex was found on wednesday morning by a motorist, close to toulouse in the south of france. we can speak now to charlie hedges — a former police officer and missing persons advisor. thank you so much forjoining us this morning. what have we made of this morning. what have we made of this case? it’s this morning. what have we made of this case? �* , , ., this morning. what have we made of this case? 3 , ., ., this case? it's quite unusual to have someone _ this case? it's quite unusual to have someone bring _ this case? it's quite unusual to i have someone bring themselves this case? it's quite unusual to - have someone bring themselves back in this way after such a long period of lime _ in this way after such a long period of lime and — in this way after such a long period of time and particularly as they've been _ of time and particularly as they've been in _ of time and particularly as they've been in that situation since they were _ been in that situation since they were 11— been in that situation since they were 1! so— been in that situation since they were 11 so in that respect it's very unusuat — were 11 so in that respect it's very unusual. ~ _, , were 11 so in that respect it's very unusual. ~ , ., ., unusual. when it comes down to authorities _ unusual. when it comes down to authorities making _ unusual. when it comes down to authorities making checks, - unusual. when it comes down to authorities making checks, how| unusual. when it comes down to - authorities making checks, how would they have been carried out?— they have been carried out? depends ve much they have been carried out? depends very much on — they have been carried out? depends very much on how — they have been carried out? depends very much on how things _ they have been carried out? depends very much on how things were - very much on how things were reported — very much on how things were reported in the first place and we don't _ reported in the first place and we don't have — reported in the first place and we don't have information about that so we assume —
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don't have information about that so we assume it was being dealt with as a parental— we assume it was being dealt with as a parental child abduction and lawful— a parental child abduction and lawful retention, it would have been passed _ lawful retention, it would have been passed through to interpol and for information to be circulated through them _ information to be circulated through them. , , ., information to be circulated through them. , , . , , ., them. this is a sensitive matter, about a family — them. this is a sensitive matter, about a family that _ them. this is a sensitive matter, about a family that has - them. this is a sensitive matter, about a family that has been - about a family that has been separated and there will be an investigation into what happened so what are the likely if at all criminal charges could be laid down? from what i know about the case it is unlawful— from what i know about the case it is unlawful for a parent to take a child _ is unlawful for a parent to take a child outside the uk without permission of the person who has either— permission of the person who has either parental control or guardianship. this one is slightly within— guardianship. this one is slightly within a — guardianship. this one is slightly within a subsection of that which is unlawful— within a subsection of that which is unlawful retention when they legitimately go out of the country and decide not to bring them back so i do and decide not to bring them back so ! do not _ and decide not to bring them back so i do not know the whole facts of the case so _ i do not know the whole facts of the case so it _ i do not know the whole facts of the case so it would be wrong to say this is— case so it would be wrong to say this is what— case so it would be wrong to say this is what has happened but it seems — this is what has happened but it seems to— this is what has happened but it seems to be the most likely thing that fits _
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seems to be the most likely thing that fits the circumstances being reported — that fits the circumstances being re orted. �* ., ., ., reported. and the welfare of a 17-year-old — reported. and the welfare of a 17-year-old boy _ reported. and the welfare of a 17-year-old boy is _ reported. and the welfare of a 17-year-old boy is what - reported. and the welfare of a 17-year-old boy is what is - reported. and the welfare of a - 17-year-old boy is what is important 17—year—old boy is what is important at this time so what are the next steps to protect alex batty? clearly he's been in — steps to protect alex batty? clearly he's been in a _ steps to protect alex batty? clearly he's been in a very _ steps to protect alex batty? clearly he's been in a very unusual - he's been in a very unusual situation, _ he's been in a very unusual situation, separated from family who have custody of him and it appears he's been — have custody of him and it appears he's been living some sort of alternative lifestyle commune so it will be _ alternative lifestyle commune so it will be important to spend time with him, will be important to spend time with him. to— will be important to spend time with him, to understand how he feels about— him, to understand how he feels about this — him, to understand how he feels about this and understands his needs and issues _ about this and understands his needs and issues which will be relevant to each individual case but require specialist — each individual case but require specialist intervention to understand what support he needs. indeed. _ understand what support he needs. indeed, charlie, thank you so much for your time and insights this morning. b. for your time and insights this morninu. �* , .,, for your time and insights this morninu. �* , ., ~ for your time and insights this mornin. �* , ., . ~' i., morning. a pleasure, thank you. it is 8:33am on _ morning. a pleasure, thank you. it is 8:33am on saturday _ morning. a pleasure, thank you. it is 8:33am on saturday morning - morning. a pleasure, thank you. it| is 8:33am on saturday morning and mike bushell can explain a picture.
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it's a picture of happiness for tottenham hotspur. sometimesjoy and emotion get carried away. the start man, scoring last night, decided to put the ball up his shirt because as he revealed later his partner is expecting a baby and she told him not to do it and he said afterward she will kill me when i get home but afterwards hopefully she will forgive him but he wanted to share the joy. forgive him but he wanted to share thejoy. he said forgive him but he wanted to share the joy. he said the best thing forgive him but he wanted to share thejoy. he said the best thing in his life! good night all round for tottenham, wasn't it? tottenham are back in the mix, in the race for the champions league places, and infact are just four points off the top, after victory at nottingham forest. so they're back on form, while in contrast, forest's slump continues. this was their fifth defeat in six games and puts more pressure on their manager, steve cooper, asjim lumsden reports. remember remember the 5th of november, the last time nottingham forest won here. steve cooper spent the week insisting his future is not
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something he thinks about but the race could mean good about rather than see you soon. one of the teams opposing players reached double figures for forest last season but could not open the scoring and that fell to richarlison, the man spearheading the recent revival at tottenham. two goals at newcastle last weekend, another canal, the first time in injury time, the brazilian indebted to this craft. the next team to have the net, anthony allen got just the next team to have the net, anthony allen gotjust one of the players offside. the ball on the right thanks to a generous matt turner clearance, but this time norcross, 2—0, total comfort until a yellow card initially given then changed to red. the second of the season and hope for the home side of extinguish by the success which secured a first clean sheet for its in almost two months. they were top
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then and with a black now appearing to be over, the summit in their sites. manchester city are hoping star man, erling haaland, will be fit in time for tuesdays fifa club world cup, semi final match against urawa red diamonds ofjapan. he misses out again, for the visit of crystal palace today. his manager says they are assessing the norweigan's foot injury day by day but to be fair, in his absence, the young academy players who came into the team in the champions league in the week really impressed as the club maintains its knack of bringing in players, at primary school age, and ensuring they fulfil their potential. i know how important it is for our fans and people to identify the young lads fans and people to identify the young [ads like phil and mike as well, all of them come from the seven, eight, nine years old and to
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be in the first team into something phenomenal so continue to work on that and hopefully in the future we can have more players. life after the champions league starts for newcastle this afternoon with a home match against freescoring fulham, whose average is four goals a game in the last month. newcastle were knocked out of europe at the group stage on wednesday after being beaten by ac milan at stjames' park. they were playing in europe for the first time in 20 years afterfinishing fourth in the premier league last season, and the manager says that was miles ahead of schedule, and that is recognised by the club's owners. we are like a family, i know it is like an overused cliche, but we are close, with them and everybody connected with the club and working with the club so i think there's that feeling that they are very supportive of the players and understanding of how much they have given. season before moving to their new stadium in 2025,
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due to commercial and logistical reasons, and supporter feedback. today, they are at burnley, as sean dyche goes back to his former club for the first time. dyche is still a cult hero in burnley, especially at the royal dyche pub named after him, but now he returns with his focus on everton and no room for sentiment. i'm not really, people who know me in football, i don't go in for that sort of stuff, there's a massive respect because of my time there and i always had a big respect and connection with the people and the fans because of my time and the team and would be achieved but to be honest, whistle—blowers, you to win! next to late drama in rugby union, as northampton snatched a win at the end of their european champions cup group game against toulon. two yellow cards for the french side reduced them to 13 players with less than five minutes left, and northampton took their chance, tom lockett going over to make it 22—19 — and earninng a bonus point as well. and there was a late winner as well
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for glasgow warriors — josh mckay giving them a12—11win at french side bayonne — that's glasgow's first victory of the campaign. in the challenge cup, scarlets' miserable season continued with a shock loss to newcomers black lion. the welsh side opened the scoring in just the fourth minute. but then they were stunned by the georgian club who scored 23 points without reply. scarlets have now lost seven of nine games in all competitions. for the first time england's women have lost a test match in india and their winless run goes on. england were chasing a mammoth 479 to win, in this one test match in mumbai, but india dismissed them forjust 131 with only two batters, reaching 20 runs. so, if you can do the maths they were beaten by 347 runs. for a test win goes on. former f1 world champion
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jenson button says he has the backing of his wife, as he prepares to return to top—level racing next year at the age he says he's still feeling great as he prepares to return, to drive a porsche in the top hypercar class, which he says is more challenging than a formula one car in the world endurance championship. button retired from formula one in seven years ago and won his [one drivers' title in 2009. he says his career is a family affair. they travel with me now and again which is great and when i am home, i am at home 100% of the time, it is not like a 9—5job and i have had a pass from the wife to go and dress, no better person, because it is in the blood. if you were watching yesterday you'll have seen we were live
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at alexandra palace ahead of the pdc world championship, a field of 96 darts players, including six former winners and the reigning champion michael smith, have gathered in london to compete for a first prize of 500—thousand pounds. and smith, who' darts name is bully boy it's to do with the bulls eye, started the defence of the trophy last night — and here he is, hitting a 180, which means the tournament sponsor will donate 1 thousand pounds to prostate cancer uk. but smith onlyjust managed to avoid a shock on the opening night, beating dutch qualifier kevin hawkeye doets 3—2, despite falling two sets behind. smith was in danger of becoming the first defending pdc champion to be knocked out in his opening match since 2009. now its the equestrian event in which the wall gets higher, effectively, high jump for horses...the puissance, event is always one of the most dramatic, at the international horse show in london.
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the wall is increased in height, until the last rider — and horse — are left. and britain's guy williams cleared 7 foot 2 inches, on mr blue sky uk, to win for the second year in a row, the fifth time in all. that is the size of an average bison, or if i sat on the shoulders of simon, i am not prepared to do that, that is the height course cleared. it that, that is the height course cleared. ., ., ., , ., cleared. it would have to sit on simon 's _ cleared. it would have to sit on simon 's shoulders? _ cleared. it would have to sit on simon 's shoulders? what - cleared. it would have to sit on simon 's shoulders? what do i cleared. it would have to sit on i simon 's shoulders? what do you think about that. mr; simon 's shoulders? what do you think about that.— think about that. my back, it is terrible. then _ think about that. my back, it is terrible. then let _ think about that. my back, it is terrible. then let me _ think about that. my back, it is terrible. then let me stick - think about that. my back, it is terrible. then let me stick with think about that. my back, it is - terrible. then let me stick with the bison analogy. it is an average bison. average size bison. not the tallest bison which can go up to 11 feet. one of the really short ones? it is just an average size bison. i thought better earlier, the mess? did you now? we are very familiar with bison!—
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did you now? we are very familiar with bison! ,, .,, with bison! goodness me, i hope so! laughter with bison! goodness me, i hope so! laughter- — laughter. let's come back down to earth. i will do. it is cloudy out there but mild, temperatures above average. but we have had a fairly decent sunrise this morning, quite cloudy but there have been some breaks in the cloud ready to give some sunrise pictures. temperatures though, let's at those, the average for the time of year is about 7—10 . throughout the weekend, we will see temperatures about 12 or 13 degrees. why is it someone? simply because the air at the moment is coming in from the source, look at it down there, they are pushing in from the south—west, all parts of the uk under the influence of the milder conditions and this weather front bringing some heavy rain over the weekend to scotland. the rainfall
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totals could amount to 200 millimetres so the met office has an amber warning millimetres so the met office has an amberwarning in millimetres so the met office has an amber warning in force, the second—highest warning because there could be flooding and disruption across highland scotland over the next couple of days. the rain has been steadily moving in across the north and west of scotland this morning, the breeze picking up and we may see brighter skies towards eastern scotland and elsewhere the cloud breaking to give brightness from time to time, especially to the east of higher ground and temperatures this afternoon 12 or 13 degrees. three tonight, the rain will continue across the north and west of scotland, the wind again continuing to pick up, breezy conditions, elsewhere generally quite cloudy, only some breaks in the cloud and overnight temperatures, remember, things are above for the daytime maximum temperatures should be so a mild night to come. we've got that one around western scotland through tomorrow. quite heavy here throughout the day, some rain edging
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its way south through scotland, northern england as well but further south it is strong, lots of club at the club breaking together sunshine, orso the club breaking together sunshine, or so tomorrow than today and maximum temperatures 11—13 . or so tomorrow than today and maximum temperatures 11—13. how about next week, the run—up to christmas? some weather fronts around on monday moving south and east, more substantial rent moving in across england and wales on tuesday before that clears and high pressure building to the south—west giving us a north—westerly air flow so it will turn chilly, temperatures coming down to the average, it means we can see wintry showers over the higher ground of scotland and northern ireland. but next weekend, temperature 6—9 , christmas eve and the big question everyone is asking is will it be a white christmas? at the moment it is too early to tell, we can see wintry showers across northern scotland but for most of
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us, probably looking to mild. tardis whooshes. are we hearing something? i think we are. it is the tardis. for the first time in six years, doctor who is part of bbc one's christmas day line—up — and there's a new time lord taking control of the tardis. millions are expected to tune in to watch ncuti gatwa take on the role as the 15th doctor. our entertainment correspondent lizo mzimba has been speaking to him. i'm the doctor. ncuti gatwa, the new doctor.
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an anxiety inducing role thanks to the levels of pressure and expectation. hold on tight. exactly that. it's daunting taking on a role with a lot of history, which is where my anxiety has came from. because you want to do a good job because the show lives in people's hearts, rightfully so. because it's a magical show. and it is our show. it's like, it's a british show. it's part of our family, and you don't want to let the family down. so, yeah, i was very nervous to kind of keep this beloved, sacred thing, beloved and sacred. and how often do those little moments of anxiety happen? did they decrease as the series went on? they've never not happened, lizo! it's 20 from the moment i wake up to the moment i go to bed, it's anxiety. but i mean, people tell me that it means that i care, erm, and i do. i love the show massively and i love the role massively. and it is also hard. it's a hard role. it's a... it's a prestigious role and which means that it's complex and difficult. and so i'm just trying to do my best.
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hopefully, i've done that. but yeah, you're anxious to do a good job. every doctor, of course, brings in particular characteristics to the part. you seem to bring a real passion, a real energy, and if i can say so, a youthful sexiness. right? dol? cool, i think... i think, i think we've... i think we've all been, i think we've all been sexy in our own way! yeah. i don't know. i think i've just tried to bring energy and fun. if this christmas day special is anything to go by... oh, no. what? ..there'll certainly be plenty of that with the doctor and his new companion, ruby sunday, battling singing, dancing, goblins. # here's the king. # here's the king goblin!# - no, i know! no, yeah.
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we're bringing a little a little musicalflair to this christmas special. it will be seen as symbolic, the first black actor to play the lead in the show. what do you think that will mean to people? i think it means, er, that we're here. and we're not going anywhere. i mean, doctor who is a show that kind of reflects where britain is at, in a way, at times, because it's so quintessentially british, it's been on our screens for so long. it's a bit of a mirror to where we are in society. and so i think it's showing that like, we're here and we're part of the cultural landscape and we're not going anywhere. ncuti was born in rwanda. when he was two, his family fled the country because of the civil war. first settling in edinburgh, then dunfermline. the character he's now playing has
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always felt a sense of displacement. did those kind of experiences help you form a connection to portraying the doctor? yes, i think i... i at many times in my life have felt a bit like an alien. a kid like me, growing up in scotland, there's been many times i've felt like an alien and so i feel like i get it. it's always a joy to get a character like that in which you're able to draw on elements of your own life, your own upbringing, and deliver them for the character. because fundamentally, itjust comes out more truthfully. and finally, can you give us any non spoilery hints about your first series? uh... can i give any? i can't. lizo, please, don't get me in trouble now! i'm so bad with spoilers! don't do this to me! how i felt playing it was, yes, joyous and triumphant
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and i just loved it. quite simply loved it. ncuti gatwa, thank you so much for talking to us. thank you, lizo. that is one happy doctor who! and why wouldn't he be? he is doing so incredibly well. 'doctor who: the church on ruby road' will be on bbc one on christmas day at five to six in the evening. for more than two decades broadcaster nick knowles has helped transform homes and communities across the uk with his diy 505 team. now, they're back with a christmas special — supported by cast members from eastenders — to work on a special community mental health project. let's take a look. there's been a huge turnout of willing volunteers. more and more, we're going to have to rely on each other in communities to make things happen. and you'll see this week the power of people coming together. the butterfly effects christmas wishes have been answered. this former school caretaker�*s bungalow has been leased
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to the project, but it's been derelict for years and it shows. we need to turn this dark, damp building and its overgrown gardens into a warm and welcoming hub for them. so we've got a chance to build something here which will help and reach out to a lot of people. it'll give them the opportunity not to become isolated, not to become lonely. let's have a great time together and get this thing built. we all up for it? cheering. and nickjoins us now. good morning. how about that for a project? 20 years we've been doing this? 2&1 project? 20 years we've been doing this? , ., , project? 20 years we've been doing this? , . , .,, project? 20 years we've been doing this? , . , �* project? 20 years we've been doing this? i.“ �* , project? 20 years we've been doing this? , . , �* , ., this? 24 years, as we've been doing it, comin: this? 24 years, as we've been doing it. coming in — this? 24 years, as we've been doing it. coming in to _ this? 24 years, as we've been doing it, coming in to may _ this? 24 years, as we've been doing it, coming in to may next _ this? 24 years, as we've been doing it, coming in to may next year, - this? 24 years, as we've been doing it, coming in to may next year, the | it, coming in to may next year, the 25th year~ — it, coming in to may next year, the 25th year. do it, coming in to may next year, the 25th ear. , ., it, coming in to may next year, the 25th ear. ,. ., . it, coming in to may next year, the 25th ear. ,. ., . ., 25th year. do you scratch your head since so what _ 25th year. do you scratch your head since so what are _ 25th year. do you scratch your head since so what are we _ 25th year. do you scratch your head since so what are we going - 25th year. do you scratch your head since so what are we going to - 25th year. do you scratch your head since so what are we going to do i since so what are we going to do now? �* , ., , ~ since so what are we going to do now? �* , . , ~' , since so what are we going to do now? 2 . , ~ , ., now? it's a bit like being on tv, ou now? it's a bit like being on tv, you have _ now? it's a bit like being on tv, you have got — now? it's a bit like being on tv, you have got to _ now? it's a bit like being on tv, you have got to be _ now? it's a bit like being on tv, you have got to be at _ now? it's a bit like being on tv, you have got to be at least - now? it's a bit like being on tv, you have got to be at least as l now? it's a bit like being on tv, i you have got to be at least as good as your— you have got to be at least as good as your lustre because if you don't, you are _ as your lustre because if you don't, you are out — as your lustre because if you don't, you are out. jobs have got to get
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better— you are out. jobs have got to get better and — you are out. jobs have got to get better and more impressive. what about the people _ better and more impressive. what about the people that _ better and more impressive. turret about the people that this will benefit. �* , ., ., , benefit. it's a lovely fit with christmas _ benefit. it's a lovely fit with christmas and _ benefit. it's a lovely fit with christmas and eastenders l benefit. it's a lovely fit with - christmas and eastenders because it's hollow, that of london, and there _ it's hollow, that of london, and there is— it's hollow, that of london, and there is a — it's hollow, that of london, and there is a lady cold angie and she lost her— there is a lady cold angie and she lost her mum to suicide and it's an issue _ lost her mum to suicide and it's an issue in— lost her mum to suicide and it's an issue in many— lost her mum to suicide and it's an issue in many urban areas, with man a lot. _ issue in many urban areas, with man a lot, farmers. — issue in many urban areas, with man a lot, farmers, people who work in their— a lot, farmers, people who work in their own. — a lot, farmers, people who work in their own, the construction industry and coming — their own, the construction industry and coming up to christmas, the loneliness — and coming up to christmas, the loneliness is a big problem. and she lost her— loneliness is a big problem. and she lost her mum and it's because her mum. _ lost her mum and it's because her mum. she — lost her mum and it's because her mum, she loved doing working things, group _ mum, she loved doing working things, group activities and those facilities are gone, they were not available — facilities are gone, they were not available and sadly this is true around — available and sadly this is true around the country so she wanted to set up _ around the country so she wanted to set up a _ around the country so she wanted to set up a charity that did walking thing _ set up a charity that did walking thing some people if they felt alone could get— thing some people if they felt alone could get out and do that and that went— could get out and do that and that went on— could get out and do that and that went on to — could get out and do that and that went on to become looking after them for food, _ went on to become looking after them forfood, drink went on to become looking after them for food, drink meals for elderly people — for food, drink meals for elderly people and mother and daughter and singing _ people and mother and daughter and singing and working and she found herself— singing and working and she found herself looking after 20 different
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services — herself looking after 20 different services with enough work to do it. so we _ services with enough work to do it. so we got — services with enough work to do it. so we got the council to give them a derelict _ so we got the council to give them a derelict building and that we asked people _ derelict building and that we asked people to come along and the of the volunteers— people to come along and the of the volunteers turned out, and suddenly she has— volunteers turned out, and suddenly she has a _ volunteers turned out, and suddenly she has a facility. how volunteers turned out, and suddenly she has a facility.— she has a facility. how many people were involved? _ she has a facility. how many people were involved? usually _ she has a facility. how many people were involved? usually about - she has a facility. how many people were involved? usually about 180 l she has a facility. how many people i were involved? usually about 180 per da , it were involved? usually about 180 per day. it runs — were involved? usually about 180 per day. it runs to — were involved? usually about 180 per day, it runs to about _ were involved? usually about 180 per day, it runs to about 400 _ were involved? usually about 180 per day, it runs to about 400 people - were involved? usually about 180 per day, it runs to about 400 people in l day, it runs to about 400 people in total. _ day, it runs to about 400 people in total. 450. — day, it runs to about 400 people in total, 450, and we can see there, that is— total, 450, and we can see there, that isjust — total, 450, and we can see there, that isjust the ones total, 450, and we can see there, that is just the ones who turned up because _ that is just the ones who turned up because a — that is just the ones who turned up because a lot of them turn up because — because a lot of them turn up because they are at work on the last day! but— because they are at work on the last day! but as — because they are at work on the last day! but as the most extraordinary thing _ day! but as the most extraordinary thing and _ day! but as the most extraordinary thing and remains extraordinary, that in— thing and remains extraordinary, that in this — thing and remains extraordinary, that in this country, no matter where — that in this country, no matter where we _ that in this country, no matter where we go, people come out and help and _ where we go, people come out and help and as — where we go, people come out and help and as long as they feel like they are — help and as long as they feel like they are not being taken advantage of and _ they are not being taken advantage of and after 25 years they trust us to do— of and after 25 years they trust us to do the — of and after 25 years they trust us to do the right things, people come on do _ to do the right things, people come on do anything. that is the bungalow, that is what it used to look like. — bungalow, that is what it used to look like, we extended it, put a roof— look like, we extended it, put a roof on— look like, we extended it, put a roof on it. — look like, we extended it, put a roof on it, turned it around, put in gardens. — roof on it, turned it around, put in gardens. a — roof on it, turned it around, put in gardens, a building in the garden,
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outside _ gardens, a building in the garden, outside barbecue. how gardens, a building in the garden, outside barbecue.— outside barbecue. how do you oruanise outside barbecue. how do you organise different _ outside barbecue. how do you organise different traits - outside barbecue. how do you | organise different traits people outside barbecue. how do you - organise different traits people who know their craft, they know their trade and they come in and they might be doing jobs that they are overqualified for. don't theyjust login on what is the organisation like? it login on what is the organisation like? , , ., , ., like? it is the vibe on site that they come _ like? it is the vibe on site that they come for. _ like? it is the vibe on site that they come for. they _ like? it is the vibe on site that they come for. they come - like? it is the vibe on site that they come for. they come to i like? it is the vibe on site that i they come for. they come to find like? it is the vibe on site that - they come for. they come to find out whether— they come for. they come to find out whether we _ they come for. they come to find out whether we are a bunch of tv tropes and i_ whether we are a bunch of tv tropes and ! admit — whether we are a bunch of tv tropes and i admit we are anywhere but it's and i admit we are anywhere but it's an interesting vibe on site. things have _ an interesting vibe on site. things have to _ an interesting vibe on site. things have to happen directly one after another— have to happen directly one after another and the people cannot get in to do the _ another and the people cannot get in to do the job on the moment they cannot— to do the job on the moment they cannot they will help the lustre finish _ cannot they will help the lustre finish so — cannot they will help the lustre finish so plus people always say to us, you _ finish so plus people always say to us, you get— finish so plus people always say to us, you get into difficulties, will always— us, you get into difficulties, will always but when you have 150 people who know _ always but when you have 150 people who know what they are doing you have a _ who know what they are doing you have a thousand years of experience on site _ have a thousand years of experience on site all— have a thousand years of experience on site. all you handy? iwasn't, if i on site. all you handy? iwasn't, if ! had _ on site. all you handy? iwasn't, if ! had to— on site. all you handy? iwasn't, if ! had to put— on site. all you handy? iwasn't, if i had to put an ikea cupboard
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together,, i could not build you an entire _ together,, i could not build you an entire house, yeah and i've had a 24 year apprenticeship, apart from the fact that _ year apprenticeship, apart from the fact that my entire family were in the building industry anyway and i try to _ the building industry anyway and i try to get — the building industry anyway and i try to get away from it by going into tb — try to get away from it by going into tb and ended up... that'sjust the way— into tb and ended up... that'sjust the way it— into tb and ended up... that'sjust the way it goes. i like the whole construction thing but now and again i will construction thing but now and again twill get _ construction thing but now and again i will get asked to give tips, i do not do _ i will get asked to give tips, i do not do any— i will get asked to give tips, i do not do any diy at all. as i will get asked to give tips, i do not do any diy at all. asi not do any diy at all. as i understand _ not do any diy at all. as i understand it _ not do any diy at all. as i understand it you - not do any diy at all. as i understand it you had - not do any diy at all. " i understand it you had members of the casting, was there a health and safety regulation, do not give the actor at draw? what some people frankly not safe around stuff? eome frankly not safe around stuff? some ofthe frankly not safe around stuff? some of the schools _ frankly not safe around stuff? some of the schools were _ frankly not safe around stuff? some of the schools were questionable but that laughter. billy hughes electrician, everybody loves _ billy hughes electrician, everybody loves him, it was his 50th wedding anniversary— loves him, it was his 50th wedding anniversary so he had to disappear for a _ anniversary so he had to disappear for a couple — anniversary so he had to disappear for a couple of days, we got eastenders belly and instead and handed _ eastenders belly and instead and handed him an electric screwdriver and let— handed him an electric screwdriver and let him — handed him an electric screwdriver and let him get on with it so that
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was interesting... and let him get on with it so that was interesting. . ._ and let him get on with it so that was interesting... health and safety --eole are was interesting... health and safety people are going — was interesting... health and safety people are going to _ was interesting. .. health and safety people are going to kill— was interesting... health and safety people are going to kill me. - was interesting... health and safety people are going to kill me. we - was interesting... health and safety| people are going to kill me. we gave him a massive _ people are going to kill me. we gave him a massive rocket _ people are going to kill me. we gave him a massive rocket plate, - people are going to kill me. we gave him a massive rocket plate, a - him a massive rocket plate, a massive — him a massive rocket plate, a massive piece of machinery that basically— massive piece of machinery that basically compresses concrete or anybody — basically compresses concrete or anybody that gets under it so he went _ anybody that gets under it so he went off — anybody that gets under it so he went off without the terrified, it was quite — went off without the terrified, it was quite good fun but we asked the eastenders crowd if they were come and join _ eastenders crowd if they were come and join in _ eastenders crowd if they were come andjoin in and eastenders crowd if they were come and join in and they all said yes, notjust— and join in and they all said yes, notjust the _ and join in and they all said yes, notjust the people and join in and they all said yes, not just the people who turned up, and we _ not just the people who turned up, and we had — not just the people who turned up, and we had to choose people to come along _ and we had to choose people to come along that _ and we had to choose people to come along that fitted with the charity that would go and do kicking and things— that would go and do kicking and things like that. it was a really lovely— things like that. it was a really lovely thing today. one of the weird things— lovely thing today. one of the weird things about doing something for 25 years. _ things about doing something for 25 years, when we did strictly, the dancers — years, when we did strictly, the dancers were coming along and we watch _ dancers were coming along and we watch it _ dancers were coming along and we watch it all— dancers were coming along and we watch it all the time on the same with eastenders. billy electrician, is to be _ with eastenders. billy electrician, is to be a — with eastenders. billy electrician, is to be a lighting electrician on eastenders. is to be a lighting electrician on eastenders-— is to be a lighting electrician on eastenders. ., ., , ., eastenders. you have been doing the show for a long _ eastenders. you have been doing the show for a long time _ eastenders. you have been doing the show for a long time and _ eastenders. you have been doing the show for a long time and you - eastenders. you have been doing the show for a long time and you know. show for a long time and you know first—hand the difference it committee have moments when you are
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a bit taken aback because you know what will happen, you know the mission, what you want to create and i dare say along the way, maybe someone pops up in that team that you have that you weren't expecting says something that gets you? i do a little thought — says something that gets you? i do a little thought at _ says something that gets you? i do a little thought at the _ says something that gets you? i do a little thought at the end, _ says something that gets you? i do a little thought at the end, i _ says something that gets you? i do a little thought at the end, i work - little thought at the end, i work away _ little thought at the end, i work away from the crowd and say something and people say how come we never see _ something and people say how come we never see you cry and i actually do, quite _ never see you cry and i actually do, quite often — never see you cry and i actually do, quite often lucid and off screen, that end — quite often lucid and off screen, that end of the programme is not about— that end of the programme is not about the — that end of the programme is not about the presenter, it's about the people _ about the presenter, it's about the people who built it and they are building — people who built it and they are building for and people who built it and they are building forand i people who built it and they are building for and i don't think, if i am on _ building for and i don't think, if i am on screen doing that, i should not _ am on screen doing that, i should not !ts — am on screen doing that, i should not its not _ am on screen doing that, i should not... its not a good thing. but i always— not... its not a good thing. but i always leave that last thoughts at the last _ always leave that last thoughts at the last second because i'm walking around _ the last second because i'm walking around in _ the last second because i'm walking around in the crowd someday will say something _ around in the crowd someday will say something and i go, that is what it is all— something and i go, that is what it is all about— something and i go, that is what it is all about so at the end of this one uses— is all about so at the end of this one uses one of my regular troops i guess— one uses one of my regular troops i guess on— one uses one of my regular troops i guess on one of them is we cannot help everybody but everybody can help everybody but everybody can help somebody that are so true at
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christmas — help somebody that are so true at christmas and checked out your road, if there _ christmas and checked out your road, if there is— christmas and checked out your road, if there is someone, just knock on the door, — if there is someone, just knock on the door, say hello, check with people — the door, say hello, check with people in— the door, say hello, check with people in the street, have you got a christmas _ people in the street, have you got a christmas dinner, would you like one? _ christmas dinner, would you like one? how— christmas dinner, would you like one? how are you doing? post a christmas — one? how are you doing? post a christmas card through the letterbox, anything to make a difference. letterbox, anything to make a difference-— difference. such a really good thouaht. difference. such a really good thought- it — difference. such a really good thought. it always _ difference. such a really good thought. it always is - difference. such a really good thought. it always is a - difference. such a really good thought. it always is a great i thought. it always is a great programme. thought. it always is a great programme-— thought. it always is a great ”roramme. ~ . , , thought. it always is a great rorramme. ~ . , , m programme. what is the phrase? we are doinu programme. what is the phrase? we are doing positivity. _ programme. what is the phrase? we are doing positivity. you _ programme. what is the phrase? we are doing positivity. you cannot - are doing positivity. you cannot help everyone but everyone can help someone, such a great thought. thank you so much. someone, such a great thought. thank you so much-— the diy 505 christmas special will be on bbc one on monday at 8pm after eastenders. you can build a house, you can build two houses!
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